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 by: rbowman - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 02:18 UTC

On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 15:10:14 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote:

> The average nationwide is 60 to 90 seconds. A four minute wait time is
> highly unusual and very rare.

The one I go through every day starts with letting the northbound lane go,
including two lanes to make a left turn. Then the left turn light goes red
and the southbound lane if free to go. After a while the northbound lane
gets a red to let the southbound traffic turning left go. Sometime later
the westbound lanes can go, including the ones making a left turn.
Eventually the left turn lanes get a red and the eastbound traffic can go.
Finally the left hand turn lanes of the eastbound side can go.

I set there calculating how many hours a year I set parked at the
intersection.

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 by: rbowman - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 02:26 UTC

On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 10:59:55 -0500, Ralph Mowery wrote:

> Years ago South Carolina had several small towns that were on the way to
> the beach from North Carolina. If you had Nc plates you better be below
> the speed limit. They charged you cash on the spot. Another way for
> either the cops and/or town to make money.

Back in the '80s I got stopped in Findlay OH. It was a righteous bust
since I'd nailed the Firebird as I left town. The cop had a credit card
imprinter in the back seat so I was on my way after making my
contribution.

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 by: Snag - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 04:08 UTC

On 2/28/2024 8:18 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 15:10:14 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>
>> The average nationwide is 60 to 90 seconds. A four minute wait time is
>> highly unusual and very rare.
>
> The one I go through every day starts with letting the northbound lane go,
> including two lanes to make a left turn. Then the left turn light goes red
> and the southbound lane if free to go. After a while the northbound lane
> gets a red to let the southbound traffic turning left go. Sometime later
> the westbound lanes can go, including the ones making a left turn.
> Eventually the left turn lanes get a red and the eastbound traffic can go.
> Finally the left hand turn lanes of the eastbound side can go.
>
> I set there calculating how many hours a year I set parked at the
> intersection.
>

I don't think either of our traffic signals holds us up more than a
minute and a half or so .
--
Snag
"They may take our lives but
they'll never take our freedom."
William Wallace

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 by: 😎 Mighty Wannabe - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 05:42 UTC

rbowman wrote on 2/28/2024 9:18 PM:
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 15:10:14 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>
>> The average nationwide is 60 to 90 seconds. A four minute wait time is
>> highly unusual and very rare.
> The one I go through every day starts with letting the northbound lane go,
> including two lanes to make a left turn. Then the left turn light goes red
> and the southbound lane if free to go. After a while the northbound lane
> gets a red to let the southbound traffic turning left go. Sometime later
> the westbound lanes can go, including the ones making a left turn.
> Eventually the left turn lanes get a red and the eastbound traffic can go.
> Finally the left hand turn lanes of the eastbound side can go.
>
> I set there calculating how many hours a year I set parked at the
> intersection.

Technically you did not "park" there when you were inside the car with
the ignition on. You "stopped" there at the intersection. I have seen
"No stopping" traffic signs.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22No+stopping%22+traffic+sign&tbm=isch

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 by: rbowman - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 06:11 UTC

On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 22:08:31 -0600, Snag wrote:

> I don't think either of our traffic signals holds us up more than a
> minute and a half or so .

Most of the rest in town are like that. 30 years ago the one I mentioned
was a two lane bypsass on the outskirts of town. Now it's Big Box Store
Row and tends to be a cluster fuck. The DOT would love to build another
bypass but two rivers and some mountains makes that almost impossible.
This ain't Kansas and you don't just pave a road through the corn fields.

The previous cluster fuck was called Malfunction Junction and they managed
to fix that just in time for the real traffic flow to move elsewhere.

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 by: rbowman - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 06:13 UTC

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 00:42:04 -0500, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:

> Technically you did not "park" there when you were inside the car with
> the ignition on. You "stopped" there at the intersection. I have seen
> "No stopping" traffic signs.

You're right. When I'm on a bike I don't put the kickstand down. In fact
I'm in gear with the clutch out scanning for escape routes if I hear the
squealing of tires.

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On 29 Feb 2024 02:18:08 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> The one I go through every day starts with letting the northbound lane go,

Another thrilling detailed account from lowbrowwoman's so very exciting life
ensuing... I think I better flush it instantly..

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Yet another thrilling account from the resident senile superhero's senile
life:
"I went to a Driveby Truckers concert at a local venue and they made me
leave my knife in the car. Never went back. Come to think of it the Truckers
had a Black Lives Matter banner. Never bought any of their music again
either."
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On 29 Feb 2024 06:11:29 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> Most of the rest in town are like that. 30 years ago the one I mentioned
> was a two lane bypsass on the outskirts of town.

Just what does it take to make you shut that abnormally big mouth of yours,
gossip girl?

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More of the resident bigmouth's usual idiotic babble and gossip:
I'm not saying my father and uncle wouldn't have drank Genesee beer
without Miss Genny but it certainly didn't hurt. Stanton's was the
hometown brewery but it closed in '50. There was a Schaefer brewery in
Albany but their product was considered a step up from cat piss.

My preference was Rheingold on tap"

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On 29 Feb 2024 06:13:45 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> You're right. When I'm on a bike I don't put the kickstand down. In fact
> I'm in gear with the clutch out scanning for escape routes if I hear the
> squealing of tires.

Fantastic! You just KEEP convincing everyone of what an original, great guy
and genius you are! That must be because you ARE a great guy and genius,
somewhat like poor deranged Stumpie is. LOL

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And yet another "cool" line from the resident bigmouthed all-American
superhero:
"I was working on the roof when the cat came up the ladder to see what I
was doing. Cats do not do well going down aluminum ladders."
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On 29 Feb 2024 02:26:18 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> Back in the '80s I got stopped in Findlay OH. It was a righteous bust
> since I'd nailed the Firebird as I left town. The cop had a credit card
> imprinter in the back seat so I was on my way after making my
> contribution.

Again: There's just no way for you to hide what an outstanding and great guy
you are. It will ALWAYS shine through, whether you want it or not, right,
you self-admiring senile gossip? LOL

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More of the resident senile gossip's absolutely idiotic endless blather
about herself:
"My family and I traveled cross country in '52, going out on the northern
route and returning mostly on Rt 66. We also traveled quite a bit as the
interstates were being built. It might have been slower but it was a lot
more interesting. Even now I prefer what William Least Heat-Moon called
the blue highways but it's difficult. Around here there are remnants of
the Mullan Road as frontage roads but I-90 was laid over most of it so
there is no continuous route. So far 93 hasn't been destroyed."
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 28 Feb 2024 10:59:55 -0500, Ralph Mowery
<rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

>In article <s7DDN.431622$c3Ea.210935@fx10.iad>, hamilton@invalid.com
>says...
>>
>> >
>> > To score preferential treatment like that, you must be friends with Gretchen Whitmer and Jewell Jones?
>>
>> Nope. I'm just a nice, gray-haired old lady.
>>
>> As I said, it was a fundraiser. All they really wanted was my $160.
>> They didn't want to cause me undue anxiety or raise my insurance
>> rates.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Years ago South Carolina had several small towns that were on the way to
>the beach from North Carolina. If you had Nc plates you better be below
>the speed limit. They charged you cash on the spot. Another way for
>either the cops and/or town to make money.

They had what I'd call a Stop Sign Trap a little southwest of Dallas.
The road had a soft turn to the left, but it seemed to go straight, to a
place with no cars, no buildings, nothing, and I didn't come to a full
stop, but there was a cop there waiting for me.

Because I was visiting my brother and driving his car, I didnt' want to
wait until a letter came and I went to the court house listed on the
ticket. It was only 6 blocks away, a brand new beautiful building just
for traffic court.

There were 30 "defendants" already there, a full-time Spanish
translator, and with mikes and speakers, everything was audible to
everyone. One guy in front of me was also from out of state, and they
gave him a choice of -- I forget the amounts now but something like --
$60 for the ticket or $75 if they wouldn't notify the state he lived in.
Official bribery, I'd call it. As improper as I thought it was, I too
chose that option.

I wonder if they even notified the state if one paid the smaller amount.
If not, it was extortion.

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