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 by: 😎 Mighty Wannabe - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 15:42 UTC

micky wrote on 2/27/2024 8:20 AM:
> In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 10:45:48 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
> <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> I remember about 30 years ago on Usenet there was some sad nutbar
>> who wanted everybody to put a lit candle between themselves and the
>> TV so the gubmint couldn't spy on them.
> Darn, I missed that post. How big a candle do you need? Surely those
> little birthday cake candles wouldn't be enough. Or would they? I'm
> tired of the gubmint spying on me.

Answer: It doesn't matter what kind of candle. All candles have 1 candle
power, by definition.

Hold the lit candle in front of your face, and modify a tinfoil muffin
liner (<https://www.amazon.com/s?k=tinfoil+muffin+liner>) into a
parabolic reflector to reflect the candle light towards the TV, so that
the spy camera in the TV will automatically reduce the aperture, and the
resulting image in the spy camera will be all dark except the candle
flame. The caveat is that you have to turn off all other light sources
and watch TV in the dark to make it work.

Holding a lit candle in front of your face when watching TV would be
very tedious. Today you can wear a headband LED light when you watch TV.
Don't forget to turn it on. LEDs are very efficient so you won't spend
too much in replacing batteries. If you order the rechargeable ones then
you won't even have to buy batteries.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=headband+led+light+3000+lumens

Hope that helps.

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-02-26, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 12:57:55 -0500, Ed P wrote:
>>
>>> I'd find that annoying and intrusive. OTOH, if cars were limited to 100
>>> mph, I'd have no problem with that. Every week you read about cars
>>> speeding at 140, accidents at 120, chases well over 100.
>> Most of Montana didn't have a daytime speed limit until 2000. I'll admit I
>> wasn't too keen on threading my way on a bike through a gaggle of soccer
>> moms in SUVs doing 100+. 70 or 80 is fine by me.
>>
>> It's interesting that I90 is 80 except where it passes through a city and
>> most people drive 80. If I95 were posted at 80 the traffic would be moving
>> at 95. California is the same. Drive the limit and you're going to get run
>> over.
> Michigan, too. We all customarily drive 10 over the limit; a few
> drive faster.
>
> I was ticketed on I94 during a local fundraiser,

How dare you! You're causing unnecessary climate change.
I can't breathe.

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On 2024-02-27, Greta Thongturd <greta.thongturd@climate.nazi> wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2024-02-26, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 12:57:55 -0500, Ed P wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd find that annoying and intrusive. OTOH, if cars were limited to 100
>>>> mph, I'd have no problem with that. Every week you read about cars
>>>> speeding at 140, accidents at 120, chases well over 100.
>>> Most of Montana didn't have a daytime speed limit until 2000. I'll admit I
>>> wasn't too keen on threading my way on a bike through a gaggle of soccer
>>> moms in SUVs doing 100+. 70 or 80 is fine by me.
>>>
>>> It's interesting that I90 is 80 except where it passes through a city and
>>> most people drive 80. If I95 were posted at 80 the traffic would be moving
>>> at 95. California is the same. Drive the limit and you're going to get run
>>> over.
>> Michigan, too. We all customarily drive 10 over the limit; a few
>> drive faster.
>>
>> I was ticketed on I94 during a local fundraiser,
>
>
> How dare you! You're causing unnecessary climate change.
> I can't breathe.

The funny part was that the nice young officer wrote me up for
double-parking on I-94, so I wouldn't get any points on my record.

--
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In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 10:09:42 -0500, ? Mighty Wannabe
? <@.> wrote:

>micky wrote on 2/27/2024 8:27 AM:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 00:46:38 -0500, Clare Snyder
>> <clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Here in Kitchener/Waterloo our anti-idling bylaw says that you must
>> I didn't know where in Canada you lived before now In 1967. a couple
>> friends and I drove from Chicago to Expo '67 in Montreal, and we must
>> have gone through Kitchener. By the time we passed through Detroit,
>> it was dark and somehwere in Canada, my oil pressure guage started
>> dipping almost down to zero for short periods. I wanted to buy oil but
>> saw no gas stations.

I should have said that I saw no stores of any sort, no stret lights, no
homes I guess, for iirc more than 2 hours, but we did stop, get out, and
look at the stars.

>> I thought of parking and waiting until dawn when I
>> could get help from a passing car, but didn't like that idea. So we
>> drove I think 2 hours with the needle dipping down almost to zero.
>>
>> Finally bought oil and never had trouble with the car. 1950 Olds 88,
>> 4-door.
>
>Canada has superior motor oil. Good for you. The oil company in those
>days, now called "Petro-Canada", was a socialistic Crown corporation
>(state-owned) when you came by in 1967.
>
>
>>> turn off your vehicle after three consecutive minutes of idling,
>>> unless in traffic. If the temperature outside a vehicle is above 27°C
>>> or below 5°C, this bylaw does not apply.
>>> However there ARE No-Idling zones - places like in front of the
>>> hospital and close to other building entrances where idling (for more
>>> than 30 seconds? when parked) is not allowed under ANY circumstances.
>>>
>>> There was talk of banning new drive-through lanes at restaurants but
>>> with a "timmy's" on every second corner, and just about every other
>>> fast foor restaurant also having drive - throughs THAT didn't go very
>>> far - - - - .

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micky wrote on 2/27/2024 2:03 PM:
> In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 10:09:42 -0500, ? Mighty Wannabe
> ? <@.> wrote:
>
>> micky wrote on 2/27/2024 8:27 AM:
>>> In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 00:46:38 -0500, Clare Snyder
>>> <clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here in Kitchener/Waterloo our anti-idling bylaw says that you must
>>> I didn't know where in Canada you lived before now In 1967. a couple
>>> friends and I drove from Chicago to Expo '67 in Montreal, and we must
>>> have gone through Kitchener. By the time we passed through Detroit,
>>> it was dark and somehwere in Canada, my oil pressure guage started
>>> dipping almost down to zero for short periods. I wanted to buy oil but
>>> saw no gas stations.
> I should have said that I saw no stores of any sort, no stret lights, no
> homes I guess, for iirc more than 2 hours, but we did stop, get out, and
> look at the stars.

Canada was still very rural in 1967. Except in downtown areas, there was
no reason to waste electricity on street lights because there were
practical no houses built too close to the highway. Canada's population
didn't grow until 1967 when government opened up immigration. I think
the first wave of migrants was the American draft dodgers flooding into
Canada. Many rural roads without streetlights or traffic-lights in those
days have become well lit and traffic-light controlled major
thoroughfare now.

>>> I thought of parking and waiting until dawn when I
>>> could get help from a passing car, but didn't like that idea. So we
>>> drove I think 2 hours with the needle dipping down almost to zero.
>>>
>>> Finally bought oil and never had trouble with the car. 1950 Olds 88,
>>> 4-door.
>> Canada has superior motor oil. Good for you. The oil company in those
>> days, now called "Petro-Canada", was a socialistic Crown corporation
>> (state-owned) when you came by in 1967.
>>
>>
>>>> turn off your vehicle after three consecutive minutes of idling,
>>>> unless in traffic. If the temperature outside a vehicle is above 27°C
>>>> or below 5°C, this bylaw does not apply.
>>>> However there ARE No-Idling zones - places like in front of the
>>>> hospital and close to other building entrances where idling (for more
>>>> than 30 seconds? when parked) is not allowed under ANY circumstances.
>>>>
>>>> There was talk of banning new drive-through lanes at restaurants but
>>>> with a "timmy's" on every second corner, and just about every other
>>>> fast foor restaurant also having drive - throughs THAT didn't go very
>>>> far - - - - .

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 by: cshenk - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 20:59 UTC

😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:

> rbowman wrote on 2/25/2024 3:46 PM:
> > On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 15:23:05 -0500, Ed P wrote:
> >
> > > Many states have laws about letting your car idle
> > Leading to those stupid cars that shut off at stop lights. Maybe
> > I'm a dinosaur but my life experience is a car that stop running
> > while in a queue of traffic is not a Good Thing. When I hear it I
> > automatically look for vital fluids leaking from the vehicle.
> >
>
>
> In Toronto, Canada, it is illegal to idle more than one minute in a
> 60-minute period; reefer trucks, school buses, ambulances, police
> vehicles, etc. that require power to run auxiliary equipment
> exempted. Basically it means the law applies only to private
> vehicles. Maybe you can get away with it by saying you need the
> heater function in very cold days, or the air conditioner function in
> very hot days.
>
>
https://www.toronto.ca/services-payments/streets-parking-transportation/applying-for-a-parking-permit/parking-by-laws-regulations/idling-control-by-law/

That's pretty silly. Stop lights are longer than that. My state
(Virgina) is silly too at 3 minutes when average stop light is 4
minutes. I don't think it's enforced though.

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 by: rbowman - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 21:16 UTC

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 00:14:46 -0800, T wrote:

> Oh ya. I have noticed. The rest of Canada is really swell folks.
> Toronto (the French Canada)
> is, putting it nicely, condescending jerks.

Toronto is in Ontario, not Quebec. Montreal, which is in Quebec, is NYC
North and runs heavily to arrogant jerks. The rest of the province is like
comparing upstate NY to NYC.

I don't know about now but Toronto wasn't bad years ago. I asked about a
good restaurant and the guy mentioned a Chinese place he liked. He warned
that it was in a bad part of town and I should lock the doors when I
parked the car. In the US at the time, bad part of town meant you locked
the doors while driving, didn't stop at red lights, and kept your .45
locaked and loaded.

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 by: rbowman - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 21:24 UTC

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 15:10:59 -0500, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:

> Canada was still very rural in 1967. Except in downtown areas, there was
> no reason to waste electricity on street lights because there were
> practical no houses built too close to the highway. Canada's population
> didn't grow until 1967 when government opened up immigration. I think
> the first wave of migrants was the American draft dodgers flooding into
> Canada.

The number of US draft dodgers is dwarfed by the Asians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver

"The 2021 census reported that immigrants (individuals born outside
Canada) comprise 274,365 persons or 42.2% of the total population of
Vancouver. Of the total immigrant population, the top countries of origin
were China (63,275 persons or 23.1%), Philippines (29,930 persons or
10.9%), Hong Kong (25,480 persons or 9.3%), India (14,640 persons or
5.3%), United Kingdom (12,895 persons or 4.7%), Vietnam (12,120 persons or
4.4%), Taiwan (9,870 persons or 3.6%), United States of America (9,790
persons or 3.6%), Iran (8,775 persons or 3.2%), and South Korea (6,495
persons or 2.4%).[117]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Toronto

"The 2021 Census indicates that 55.7 percent of Toronto's population is
composed of visible minorities, compared with 51.5 percent in 2016.[32]
[33] According to the 2021 Canadian census, 1,537,285, or approximately
10.7 percent of Canada's visible minority population, live in the city of
Toronto; of this, roughly 67 percent are of Asian ancestry. Approximately
34.81 percent of the city's population, or 961,325 individuals in The City
of Toronto are Asian Canadians as of 2021."

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 by: 😎 Mighty Wannabe - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 21:56 UTC

cshenk wrote on 2/27/2024 3:59 PM:
> 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
>
>> rbowman wrote on 2/25/2024 3:46 PM:
>>> On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 15:23:05 -0500, Ed P wrote:
>>>
>>>> Many states have laws about letting your car idle
>>> Leading to those stupid cars that shut off at stop lights. Maybe
>>> I'm a dinosaur but my life experience is a car that stop running
>>> while in a queue of traffic is not a Good Thing. When I hear it I
>>> automatically look for vital fluids leaking from the vehicle.
>>>
>>
>> In Toronto, Canada, it is illegal to idle more than one minute in a
>> 60-minute period; reefer trucks, school buses, ambulances, police
>> vehicles, etc. that require power to run auxiliary equipment
>> exempted. Basically it means the law applies only to private
>> vehicles. Maybe you can get away with it by saying you need the
>> heater function in very cold days, or the air conditioner function in
>> very hot days.
>>
>>
> https://www.toronto.ca/services-payments/streets-parking-transportation/applying-for-a-parking-permit/parking-by-laws-regulations/idling-control-by-law/
>
> That's pretty silly. Stop lights are longer than that. My state
> (Virgina) is silly too at 3 minutes when average stop light is 4
> minutes. I don't think it's enforced though.

I am sure it wasn't enforced. Those laws are there for ulterior reasons.
They will enforce the idling bylaw when truckers form a protest line
like anti COVID-lockdown.

Just like loitering bylaws: it is illegal to stand around in one spot on
a public street. They won't enforce the bylaw, except if some people
stand there in protest of something, or hookers waiting for johns.
That's why when you see labour strikes, the strikers always form a conga
line walking slowly in a circular pattern, and hookers always stroll up
and down the street to avoid getting ticketed for loitering.

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On 27 Feb 2024 21:24:51 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> The number of US draft dodgers is dwarfed by the Asians.

But you are YOURSELF one, you hilarious dumb bigmouth! You ADMITTED already
that you had never been in any army!

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More of the senile gossip's absolutely idiotic senile blather:
"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn't do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
'We keep God's time in Virginia.'

I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while."

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On 27 Feb 2024 21:16:31 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> Toronto is in Ontario, not Quebec. Montreal, which is in Quebec, is NYC
> North and runs heavily to arrogant jerks. The rest of the province is like
> comparing upstate NY to NYC.
>
> I don't know about now but Toronto wasn't bad years ago. I asked about a
> good restaurant and the guy mentioned a Chinese place he liked. He warned
> that it was in a bad part of town and I should lock the doors when I
> parked the car. In the US at the time, bad part of town meant you locked
> the doors while driving, didn't stop at red lights, and kept your .45
> locaked and loaded.

No, really! You REALLY are the coolest piece of hot senile shit anyone ever
encountered in any part of Usenet, you dumb self-admiring abnormal bigmouth!
LOL

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intentions:
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had been severed from Germany proper by the Danzig Corridor."
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 by: 😎 Mighty Wannabe - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 22:50 UTC

rbowman wrote on 2/27/2024 4:24 PM:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 15:10:59 -0500, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
>
>> Canada was still very rural in 1967. Except in downtown areas, there was
>> no reason to waste electricity on street lights because there were
>> practical no houses built too close to the highway. Canada's population
>> didn't grow until 1967 when government opened up immigration. I think
>> the first wave of migrants was the American draft dodgers flooding into
>> Canada.
> The number of US draft dodgers is dwarfed by the Asians.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver
>
> "The 2021 census reported that immigrants (individuals born outside
> Canada) comprise 274,365 persons or 42.2% of the total population of
> Vancouver. Of the total immigrant population, the top countries of origin
> were China (63,275 persons or 23.1%), Philippines (29,930 persons or
> 10.9%), Hong Kong (25,480 persons or 9.3%), India (14,640 persons or
> 5.3%), United Kingdom (12,895 persons or 4.7%), Vietnam (12,120 persons or
> 4.4%), Taiwan (9,870 persons or 3.6%), United States of America (9,790
> persons or 3.6%), Iran (8,775 persons or 3.2%), and South Korea (6,495
> persons or 2.4%).[117]"
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Toronto
>
> "The 2021 Census indicates that 55.7 percent of Toronto's population is
> composed of visible minorities, compared with 51.5 percent in 2016.[32]
> [33] According to the 2021 Canadian census, 1,537,285, or approximately
> 10.7 percent of Canada's visible minority population, live in the city of
> Toronto; of this, roughly 67 percent are of Asian ancestry. Approximately
> 34.81 percent of the city's population, or 961,325 individuals in The City
> of Toronto are Asian Canadians as of 2021."

In 1967 it was a different story. 1967 was only 22 years after WWII.
There were hardly any official immigrants before 1967, except for a
small number from Great Britain. The British "brain drain" wasn't at
full tilt yet.

As you can see from this Canadian government publication, the turning
point was 1967:
(<https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/csj-sjc/jsp-sjp/rp02_8-dr02_8/p3.html>)

There was an immigration amnesty soon after the 1967 immigration policy
change, when all the non-citizens already present in Canada could apply
for Canadian citizenship. All those rich kids from Hong Kong studying in
Canadian universities on student visa automatically became Canadian
citizens, so were the US draft dodgers (the Vietnam war draft started in
1964). There were no real Chinese from mainland China in those days
because China was still behind the "bamboo curtain". Most of "Chinese"
immigrants soon after 1967 were actually rich people from Hong Kong.
Then there were the Vietnamese "boat people" in the 1970s after the
"Fall of Saigon". Then the British "brain drain" was at full tilt. The
Philippine immigrants was a more recent phenomenon. Canada was short of
babysitters and domestic helpers. Many young Filipinas came under that
category. After a while they qualified for Canadian citizenship. My
colleague married a White babysitter (domestic helper) from Sweden in
the 1990s. She later became a store manger in a famous clothing store chain.

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 by: Clare Snyder - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 02:12 UTC

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 08:27:53 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 00:46:38 -0500, Clare Snyder
><clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>> Here in Kitchener/Waterloo our anti-idling bylaw says that you must
>
>I didn't know where in Canada you lived before now In 1967. a couple
>friends and I drove from Chicago to Expo '67 in Montreal, and we must
>have gone through Kitchener. By the time we passed through Detroit,
>it was dark and somehwere in Canada, my oil pressure guage started
>dipping almost down to zero for short periods. I wanted to buy oil but
>saw no gas stations. I thought of parking and waiting until dawn when I
>could get help from a passing car, but didn't like that idea. So we
>drove I think 2 hours with the needle dipping down almost to zero.
>
>Finally bought oil and never had trouble with the car. 1950 Olds 88,
>4-door.
>
>>turn off your vehicle after three consecutive minutes of idling,
>>unless in traffic. If the temperature outside a vehicle is above 27°C
>>or below 5°C, this bylaw does not apply.
>> However there ARE No-Idling zones - places like in front of the
>>hospital and close to other building entrances where idling (for more
>>than 30 seconds? when parked) is not allowed under ANY circumstances.
>>
>>There was talk of banning new drive-through lanes at restaurants but
>>with a "timmy's" on every second corner, and just about every other
>>fast foor restaurant also having drive - throughs THAT didn't go very
>>far - - - - .
All my life except 2 years in Africa within 35 miles of Kitchener.
Going from Chi-Town to Montreal you woiuld have passed between
Canbrige (back then Galt, Preston, and Hespeler) and Kitchener on the
new highway 401. Only fuel stops evey 30 to 80 miles - and back then
even some of those were a couple miles off the highway.

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 by: Clare Snyder - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 02:15 UTC

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 09:45:20 -0500, Ralph Mowery
<rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

>In article <m5jDN.134970$46Te.100453@fx38.iad>, hamilton@invalid.com
>says...
>>
>> > It's interesting that I90 is 80 except where it passes through a city and
>> > most people drive 80. If I95 were posted at 80 the traffic would be moving
>> > at 95. California is the same. Drive the limit and you're going to get run
>> > over.
>>
>> Michigan, too. We all customarily drive 10 over the limit; a few
>> drive faster.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Charlotte NC is about40 miles from me and I seldom go there. Last time
>I was on the interstate 4 lane. i was in the 2nd land on the slow side
>and there were 2 'fast' lanes to my left. I was barely keeping up with
>the slow traffic. Speed limit was 65 and I was doing 80 and the fast
>lane was passing me . I don't know if there are any cops checking for
>speeders but it sure seems like there are none.
>
>Most cars around here are just under 10 mph over the speed limit, but as
>usual there are always some going faster.
>
The "county Mounties" just pull over cars with out of state plaes
-(they love Ontario plates, apparently) and pick them out od the
middle of the herd of North Carolina cars - even worse in Georgia.
Can't poss off the people who elect the sherrif and the judge, doncha
know - - -

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 by: Clare Snyder - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 02:21 UTC

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:03:13 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 10:09:42 -0500, ? Mighty Wannabe
>? <@.> wrote:
>
>>micky wrote on 2/27/2024 8:27 AM:
>>> In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 00:46:38 -0500, Clare Snyder
>>> <clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here in Kitchener/Waterloo our anti-idling bylaw says that you must
>>> I didn't know where in Canada you lived before now In 1967. a couple
>>> friends and I drove from Chicago to Expo '67 in Montreal, and we must
>>> have gone through Kitchener. By the time we passed through Detroit,
>>> it was dark and somehwere in Canada, my oil pressure guage started
>>> dipping almost down to zero for short periods. I wanted to buy oil but
>>> saw no gas stations.
>
>I should have said that I saw no stores of any sort, no stret lights, no
>homes I guess, for iirc more than 2 hours, but we did stop, get out, and
>look at the stars.

There were little towns scattered all over a few miles off the
McFonald Cartier Freeway (Highway 401). - at least for the first half
of the way. From Toronto to Montreal, along the St Lawrence there is a
LOT of "no-man's land" - just Belleville and Kingston and Oshawa and
Picton - with even most of THEM hardly vidible from the highway - for
4 hours of driving
>
>>> I thought of parking and waiting until dawn when I
>>> could get help from a passing car, but didn't like that idea. So we
>>> drove I think 2 hours with the needle dipping down almost to zero.
>>>
>>> Finally bought oil and never had trouble with the car. 1950 Olds 88,
>>> 4-door.
>>
>>Canada has superior motor oil. Good for you. The oil company in those
>>days, now called "Petro-Canada", was a socialistic Crown corporation
>>(state-owned) when you came by in 1967.
>>
>>
>>>> turn off your vehicle after three consecutive minutes of idling,
>>>> unless in traffic. If the temperature outside a vehicle is above 27°C
>>>> or below 5°C, this bylaw does not apply.
>>>> However there ARE No-Idling zones - places like in front of the
>>>> hospital and close to other building entrances where idling (for more
>>>> than 30 seconds? when parked) is not allowed under ANY circumstances.
>>>>
>>>> There was talk of banning new drive-through lanes at restaurants but
>>>> with a "timmy's" on every second corner, and just about every other
>>>> fast foor restaurant also having drive - throughs THAT didn't go very
>>>> far - - - - .

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 by: Greta Thongturd - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 04:26 UTC

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-02-27, Greta Thongturd <greta.thongturd@climate.nazi> wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2024-02-26, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 12:57:55 -0500, Ed P wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'd find that annoying and intrusive. OTOH, if cars were limited to 100
>>>>> mph, I'd have no problem with that. Every week you read about cars
>>>>> speeding at 140, accidents at 120, chases well over 100.
>>>> Most of Montana didn't have a daytime speed limit until 2000. I'll admit I
>>>> wasn't too keen on threading my way on a bike through a gaggle of soccer
>>>> moms in SUVs doing 100+. 70 or 80 is fine by me.
>>>>
>>>> It's interesting that I90 is 80 except where it passes through a city and
>>>> most people drive 80. If I95 were posted at 80 the traffic would be moving
>>>> at 95. California is the same. Drive the limit and you're going to get run
>>>> over.
>>> Michigan, too. We all customarily drive 10 over the limit; a few
>>> drive faster.
>>>
>>> I was ticketed on I94 during a local fundraiser,
>>
>> How dare you! You're causing unnecessary climate change.
>> I can't breathe.
> The funny part was that the nice young officer wrote me up for
> double-parking on I-94, so I wouldn't get any points on my record.
>

To score preferential treatment like that, you must be friends with Cruella DeWhitmer and Jewell Jones?

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On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 17:50:58 -0500, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:

> In 1967 it was a different story. 1967 was only 22 years after WWII.
> There were hardly any official immigrants before 1967, except for a
> small number from Great Britain. The British "brain drain" wasn't at
> full tilt yet.

The turning point for the US was 1965 when Emanuel Celler and his shabbas
goy, Phil Hart, came up with the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.
Prior to that immigration was almost completely Europeans and western or
northern Europeans at that.

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In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 21:15:45 -0500, Clare Snyder
<clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:

>On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 09:45:20 -0500, Ralph Mowery
><rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <m5jDN.134970$46Te.100453@fx38.iad>, hamilton@invalid.com
>>says...
>>>
>>> > It's interesting that I90 is 80 except where it passes through a city and
>>> > most people drive 80. If I95 were posted at 80 the traffic would be moving
>>> > at 95. California is the same. Drive the limit and you're going to get run
>>> > over.
>>>
>>> Michigan, too. We all customarily drive 10 over the limit; a few
>>> drive faster.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Charlotte NC is about40 miles from me and I seldom go there. Last time
>>I was on the interstate 4 lane. i was in the 2nd land on the slow side
>>and there were 2 'fast' lanes to my left. I was barely keeping up with
>>the slow traffic. Speed limit was 65 and I was doing 80 and the fast
>>lane was passing me . I don't know if there are any cops checking for
>>speeders but it sure seems like there are none.
>>
>>Most cars around here are just under 10 mph over the speed limit, but as
>>usual there are always some going faster.
>>
> The "county Mounties" just pull over cars with out of state plaes
>-(they love Ontario plates, apparently) and pick them out od the
>middle of the herd of North Carolina cars - even worse in Georgia.
>Can't poss off the people who elect the sherrif and the judge, doncha
>know - - -

This story is so old it might not matter to most, but in 1971, I was
driving back to Chicago from San Antonio, by way of New Orleans. With
Pennsylvania plates, because my mother lived there and she didn't move
around like I did.

In the middle of Mississippi, I saw enormous black smoke. Didn't look
like it was coming from a fire, but I wanted to know where it came from.
I was on a two lane road going north, and I soon came ot an
intersection, with the road going off to the right, but only for 500
feet. Only one or two small buildings on the road.

I stopped just past the intersection, and almost backed up through the
intersection in order to get off the road, but I thought maybe I
shouldn't. There was one car parked on that side street and I went ot
talk to the two black men sitting in the car. They told me the smoke was
from the paper factory. Good, now I knew.

I went back to my car and before I could drive away, a cop walked up to
the window. He wasnted to see my license and registration, so I showed
them to him. I said, Did I do anything wrong? And he drawled, "No, we
just like to know who's coming through."

He gave me back my id and I drove away. What he didn't notice is that
both my drivers license and my car's registration were expired. There
had been a flood at the Pennsylvania prison where plates were made and
the plates had been extended by one month, two times. And the license
was no good because when I was in Central America she send me my new
license and said to sign it and return it. That was too much for me to
understand, so I just signed it and kept it. It seems the standard
procedure was to send it back with the money and then they'd send it
back to you again! It had written on it, at an angle, in light green,
"Void unless validated" but that didn't make me understand either. Not
until I saw my mother months later did I understand. I wasn't trying to
avoid paying.

I was glad I had not backed through the intersection. I dont' think the
white cop would have bothered me at all if I hadn't talked to those
black guys, but he clearly didn't look closely at my ID.

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 by: micky - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 05:26 UTC

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 21:12:46 -0500, Clare Snyder
<clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:

>On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 08:27:53 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 00:46:38 -0500, Clare Snyder
>><clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Here in Kitchener/Waterloo our anti-idling bylaw says that you must
>>
>>I didn't know where in Canada you lived before now In 1967. a couple
>>friends and I drove from Chicago to Expo '67 in Montreal, and we must
>>have gone through Kitchener. By the time we passed through Detroit,
>>it was dark and somehwere in Canada, my oil pressure guage started
>>dipping almost down to zero for short periods. I wanted to buy oil but
>>saw no gas stations. I thought of parking and waiting until dawn when I
>>could get help from a passing car, but didn't like that idea. So we
>>drove I think 2 hours with the needle dipping down almost to zero.
>>
>>Finally bought oil and never had trouble with the car. 1950 Olds 88,
>>4-door.
>>
>>>turn off your vehicle after three consecutive minutes of idling,
>>>unless in traffic. If the temperature outside a vehicle is above 27°C
>>>or below 5°C, this bylaw does not apply.
>>> However there ARE No-Idling zones - places like in front of the
>>>hospital and close to other building entrances where idling (for more
>>>than 30 seconds? when parked) is not allowed under ANY circumstances.
>>>
>>>There was talk of banning new drive-through lanes at restaurants but
>>>with a "timmy's" on every second corner, and just about every other
>>>fast foor restaurant also having drive - throughs THAT didn't go very
>>>far - - - - .
> All my life except 2 years in Africa within 35 miles of Kitchener.
>Going from Chi-Town to Montreal you woiuld have passed between
>Canbrige (back then Galt, Preston, and Hespeler) and Kitchener on the
>new highway 401. Only fuel stops evey 30 to 80 miles - and back then
>even some of those were a couple miles off the highway.

But we got the best view of stars that I've ever had. There were
thousands, really close together.

After that, I always kept two quarts of oil in the trunk of my car, and
I still do, 57 years later. I was only 20 then, still green.

A friend from Silver Spring Maryland saw my car in Montreal. He'd never
seen it before but it had a U. of Chicago decal and a Delta Upsilon
decal, and that narrows it down to me. he left a note on the
windshield.

Then on the way back in western Michigan on an xway just after dawn,
while the passengers were asleep, I wanted to see how fast I could go.
It took 3 or 4 minutes to creep up from 100 to 110, and that's as high
as the speedometer went. Then when I told my friench Rich, he asked,
Did you hide it? I didn't know about such things, but 110 was more
than fast enough. I really should not have done it without asking the
passengers for permission, and I still shouldn't have done it.

I got back to Chicago and I opened the hood to admire the engine on the
17-year old V-8, and there were bubbles coming out from the side of one
cylinder head. Even then I avoided bad news so I just slammed the hood
down and didn't open it again for weeks. When I did, the bubbles were
gone, so it worked!

But later when I got to use a compression tester, two adjacent cylinders
had low compression. Yet the car ran fine, could cruise on the Indiana
turnpike at 85mph with no trouble. So I concluded that at cranking
speed there was time enough for the gas to excape from the cylinder on
the compression stroke to the other one, but at 30 or 85 miles an hour,
there was no time for that, and it's like the gasket was still good.

Does that sound reasonable?

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In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 20:59:49 +0000, "cshenk"
<cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:

>? Mighty Wannabe ? wrote:
>
>> rbowman wrote on 2/25/2024 3:46 PM:
>> > On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 15:23:05 -0500, Ed P wrote:
>> >
>> > > Many states have laws about letting your car idle
>> > Leading to those stupid cars that shut off at stop lights. Maybe
>> > I'm a dinosaur but my life experience is a car that stop running
>> > while in a queue of traffic is not a Good Thing. When I hear it I
>> > automatically look for vital fluids leaking from the vehicle.
>> >
>>
>>
>> In Toronto, Canada, it is illegal to idle more than one minute in a
>> 60-minute period; reefer trucks, school buses, ambulances, police
>> vehicles, etc. that require power to run auxiliary equipment
>> exempted. Basically it means the law applies only to private
>> vehicles. Maybe you can get away with it by saying you need the
>> heater function in very cold days, or the air conditioner function in
>> very hot days.
>>
>>
>https://www.toronto.ca/services-payments/streets-parking-transportation/applying-for-a-parking-permit/parking-by-laws-regulations/idling-control-by-law/
>
>That's pretty silly. Stop lights are longer than that. My state
>(Virgina) is silly too at 3 minutes when average stop light is 4
>minutes. I don't think it's enforced though.

I think there is a wide range of stop light length. My impression is
that in areas of low traffic, the intervals are short, but where there
is high traffic they makde the intervals long, like 4 minutes, to avoid
the lost time when everyone on one street has to stop and the other
street start. When traffic is light, that lost time doesn't matter and
they don't want people to have to wait through a long light.

In guatamala city at a few of the intersections the time remaining was
displayed. It counted down, and not just until the light turned red,
but also until the light turned green. I've never seen that before,
though I have seen it in some country where one of the lights flashes
just before the light turns green.

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On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 00:26:13 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 21:12:46 -0500, Clare Snyder
><clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 08:27:53 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 00:46:38 -0500, Clare Snyder
>>><clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here in Kitchener/Waterloo our anti-idling bylaw says that you must
>>>
>>>I didn't know where in Canada you lived before now In 1967. a couple
>>>friends and I drove from Chicago to Expo '67 in Montreal, and we must
>>>have gone through Kitchener. By the time we passed through Detroit,
>>>it was dark and somehwere in Canada, my oil pressure guage started
>>>dipping almost down to zero for short periods. I wanted to buy oil but
>>>saw no gas stations. I thought of parking and waiting until dawn when I
>>>could get help from a passing car, but didn't like that idea. So we
>>>drove I think 2 hours with the needle dipping down almost to zero.
>>>
>>>Finally bought oil and never had trouble with the car. 1950 Olds 88,
>>>4-door.
>>>
>>>>turn off your vehicle after three consecutive minutes of idling,
>>>>unless in traffic. If the temperature outside a vehicle is above 27°C
>>>>or below 5°C, this bylaw does not apply.
>>>> However there ARE No-Idling zones - places like in front of the
>>>>hospital and close to other building entrances where idling (for more
>>>>than 30 seconds? when parked) is not allowed under ANY circumstances.
>>>>
>>>>There was talk of banning new drive-through lanes at restaurants but
>>>>with a "timmy's" on every second corner, and just about every other
>>>>fast foor restaurant also having drive - throughs THAT didn't go very
>>>>far - - - - .
>> All my life except 2 years in Africa within 35 miles of Kitchener.
>>Going from Chi-Town to Montreal you woiuld have passed between
>>Canbrige (back then Galt, Preston, and Hespeler) and Kitchener on the
>>new highway 401. Only fuel stops evey 30 to 80 miles - and back then
>>even some of those were a couple miles off the highway.
>
>But we got the best view of stars that I've ever had. There were
>thousands, really close together.
>
>After that, I always kept two quarts of oil in the trunk of my car, and
>I still do, 57 years later. I was only 20 then, still green.
>
>A friend from Silver Spring Maryland saw my car in Montreal. He'd never
>seen it before but it had a U. of Chicago decal and a Delta Upsilon
>decal, and that narrows it down to me. he left a note on the
>windshield.
>
>Then on the way back in western Michigan on an xway just after dawn,
>while the passengers were asleep, I wanted to see how fast I could go.
>It took 3 or 4 minutes to creep up from 100 to 110, and that's as high
>as the speedometer went. Then when I told my friench Rich, he asked,
>Did you hide it? I didn't know about such things, but 110 was more
>than fast enough. I really should not have done it without asking the
>passengers for permission, and I still shouldn't have done it.
>
>I got back to Chicago and I opened the hood to admire the engine on the
>17-year old V-8, and there were bubbles coming out from the side of one
>cylinder head. Even then I avoided bad news so I just slammed the hood
>down and didn't open it again for weeks. When I did, the bubbles were
>gone, so it worked!
>
>But later when I got to use a compression tester, two adjacent cylinders
>had low compression. Yet the car ran fine, could cruise on the Indiana
>turnpike at 85mph with no trouble. So I concluded that at cranking
>speed there was time enough for the gas to excape from the cylinder on
>the compression stroke to the other one, but at 30 or 85 miles an hour,
>there was no time for that, and it's like the gasket was still good.
>
>Does that sound reasonable?
Nope. Not at all

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On 28 Feb 2024 04:42:25 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> The turning point for the US was 1965 when Emanuel Celler and his shabbas
> goy, Phil Hart, came up with the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.
> Prior to that immigration was almost completely Europeans and western or
> northern Europeans at that.

I bet back in 1965 your mouth was already as big as it is today. Correct me,
if I'm wrong. <BG>

--
Yet more of the very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
"I save my fries quota for one of the local food trucks that offers
poutine every now and then. If you're going for a coronary might as well
do it right."
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 by: Cindy Hamilton - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 09:35 UTC

On 2024-02-28, Greta Thongturd <greta.thongturd@cologny.mafia.wef> wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2024-02-27, Greta Thongturd <greta.thongturd@climate.nazi> wrote:
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On 2024-02-26, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 12:57:55 -0500, Ed P wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd find that annoying and intrusive. OTOH, if cars were limited to 100
>>>>>> mph, I'd have no problem with that. Every week you read about cars
>>>>>> speeding at 140, accidents at 120, chases well over 100.
>>>>> Most of Montana didn't have a daytime speed limit until 2000. I'll admit I
>>>>> wasn't too keen on threading my way on a bike through a gaggle of soccer
>>>>> moms in SUVs doing 100+. 70 or 80 is fine by me.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's interesting that I90 is 80 except where it passes through a city and
>>>>> most people drive 80. If I95 were posted at 80 the traffic would be moving
>>>>> at 95. California is the same. Drive the limit and you're going to get run
>>>>> over.
>>>> Michigan, too. We all customarily drive 10 over the limit; a few
>>>> drive faster.
>>>>
>>>> I was ticketed on I94 during a local fundraiser,
>>>
>>> How dare you! You're causing unnecessary climate change.
>>> I can't breathe.
>> The funny part was that the nice young officer wrote me up for
>> double-parking on I-94, so I wouldn't get any points on my record.
>>
>
>
> To score preferential treatment like that, you must be friends with Gretchen Whitmer and Jewell Jones?

Nope. I'm just a nice, gray-haired old lady.

As I said, it was a fundraiser. All they really wanted was my $160.
They didn't want to cause me undue anxiety or raise my insurance
rates.

I had to look up Jewell Jones. What a putz.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> writes:
>In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 20:59:49 +0000, "cshenk"
><cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>
>>? Mighty Wannabe ? wrote:
>>
>>> rbowman wrote on 2/25/2024 3:46 PM:
>>> > On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 15:23:05 -0500, Ed P wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Many states have laws about letting your car idle
>>> > Leading to those stupid cars that shut off at stop lights. Maybe
>>> > I'm a dinosaur but my life experience is a car that stop running
>>> > while in a queue of traffic is not a Good Thing. When I hear it I
>>> > automatically look for vital fluids leaking from the vehicle.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> In Toronto, Canada, it is illegal to idle more than one minute in a
>>> 60-minute period; reefer trucks, school buses, ambulances, police
>>> vehicles, etc. that require power to run auxiliary equipment
>>> exempted. Basically it means the law applies only to private
>>> vehicles. Maybe you can get away with it by saying you need the
>>> heater function in very cold days, or the air conditioner function in
>>> very hot days.
>>>
>>>
>>https://www.toronto.ca/services-payments/streets-parking-transportation/applying-for-a-parking-permit/parking-by-laws-regulations/idling-control-by-law/
>>
>>That's pretty silly. Stop lights are longer than that. My state
>>(Virgina) is silly too at 3 minutes when average stop light is 4
>>minutes. I don't think it's enforced though.
>
>I think there is a wide range of stop light length.

The average nationwide is 60 to 90 seconds. A
four minute wait time is highly unusual and very rare.

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In article <s7DDN.431622$c3Ea.210935@fx10.iad>, hamilton@invalid.com
says...
>
> >
> > To score preferential treatment like that, you must be friends with Gretchen Whitmer and Jewell Jones?
>
> Nope. I'm just a nice, gray-haired old lady.
>
> As I said, it was a fundraiser. All they really wanted was my $160.
> They didn't want to cause me undue anxiety or raise my insurance
> rates.
>
>
>

Years ago South Carolina had several small towns that were on the way to
the beach from North Carolina. If you had Nc plates you better be below
the speed limit. They charged you cash on the spot. Another way for
either the cops and/or town to make money.


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