On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 13:30:44 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:

>On 10/7/2022 12:38 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Oct 2022 13:57:37 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bill <nonegiven@att.net> writes:
>>>> On 10/6/2022 6:19 PM, Markem618 wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Looked at Newegg for old style desktop cases found this,
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-000Z-00057
>>>>>
>>>>> Bit pricey though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow. I have never seen anything like that. If you need something like
>>>> that, you might as well build it yourself out of wood. I recall hearing
>>>> long ago that a PC wouldn't run if it wasn't in a case, but I never
>>>> understood why. I don't see how the components would "know". Can you
>>>> confirm or deny?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Deny. We run them outside of cases all the time.
>> The only issue with no case can be cooling. The case directs cooling
>> air across the components, but as long as you have provisions for good
>> air movement a case is not required to RUN.
>> LEGALLY is a different story, as the case is required to sheild RFI
>> and EMI
>
>Now that's an interesting perspective (that had in no way occurred to
>me). Is there anything "special" about the large clear panels that they
>use in many computer cases?

Plastic can be coated with metal, did that with the ST2500
teleconferencing system at Shure to meet RFI and EFI emissions.

On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 13:30:44 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:

>On 10/7/2022 12:38 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Oct 2022 13:57:37 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bill <nonegiven@att.net> writes:
>>>> On 10/6/2022 6:19 PM, Markem618 wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Looked at Newegg for old style desktop cases found this,
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-000Z-00057
>>>>>
>>>>> Bit pricey though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow. I have never seen anything like that. If you need something like
>>>> that, you might as well build it yourself out of wood. I recall hearing
>>>> long ago that a PC wouldn't run if it wasn't in a case, but I never
>>>> understood why. I don't see how the components would "know". Can you
>>>> confirm or deny?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Deny. We run them outside of cases all the time.
>> The only issue with no case can be cooling. The case directs cooling
>> air across the components, but as long as you have provisions for good
>> air movement a case is not required to RUN.
>> LEGALLY is a different story, as the case is required to sheild RFI
>> and EMI
>
>Now that's an interesting perspective (that had in no way occurred to
>me). Is there anything "special" about the large clear panels that they
>use in many computer cases?
A LOT of them are NOT approved - -the ones that are will have a
special plastic - as I noted. You would be surprized how many "gamer"
machines sold in North America can not be used in many businesses
because they don't meet FCC requirements - or UL requirements.

Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote in
news:gWI%K.750032$BKL8.183350@fx15.iad:

>
> Wow. I have never seen anything like that. If you need something
> like that, you might as well build it yourself out of wood. I recall
> hearing long ago that a PC wouldn't run if it wasn't in a case, but I
> never understood why. I don't see how the components would "know". Can
> you confirm or deny?
>
>

I used to run them outside a case when I was building them as a teenager.
But this was when CPUs were topping out at 500 mHz max. I put the
motherboard on wooden blocks so the expansion cards could hang down and
would let them run overnight at least.

I don't know that I'd try that now, mainly because I'd find the whole thing
a bother. SATA cables are so much smaller than IDE cables it's just much
easier to route everything in a case than to build it and transfer it.

Puckdropper

Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote in news:MEQ%K.566144$iiS8.307035@fx17.iad:

> On 10/7/2022 1:39 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
>
>> If you're at all serious about super glue, you NEED accelerator. I use
>> cheap enough to be disposable small paint bruses to apply it. Some come
>> with a spritzer but that just wastes it. There's some stuff from Bob
>> Smith Industries that really works well.
>
> To be honest, I had never heard about super glue accelerator until you
> mentioned it, and so I found and read an article about it. Thank you,
> it seem like handy knowledge to have.
>

I picked up another tip from Adam Savage. Baking soda can be used as an
accelerator. If you are using super glue to form a butt joint, you can add
the baking soda to the joint and it will form a small gusset that adds
significant strength to the joint.

Puckdropper