Survey time...

How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
while making a cut?

On 8/17/2022 12:09 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> Survey time...
>
> How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
> while making a cut?

Several inches away. Normally.

Last Saturday I was helping a friend/relative, what ever yu call my
daughter in law's cousin, put down base boards in 5 rooms, populated
with furniture. Still have 3 bedrooms and closets, and a bathroom to go.

Anyway we were trying to use the waste pieces to keep the waste down.
I was cutting 2" long pieces with bevel cuts on both ends off 6" pieces.
The base boards were about 8" tall so all cuts were bevel vs miter.

I think I was getting pretty close to the blade on some of those pieces.
;~0

It would have been far smarter to have worked with nothing shorter than 12".

On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

>Survey time...
>
>How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
>while making a cut?

Shoulder's width. Both arms/hands straight forward.

DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> on Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
>Survey time...
>
>How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
>while making a cut?

As I do not have a power saw - a lot closer than I would otherwise
.... B-)

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On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

>Survey time...
>
>How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
>while making a cut?

End of the table with the left, right hand is on the switch.

On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:46:11 PM UTC-4, Markem618 wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>
> >Survey time...
> >
> >How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
> >while making a cut?
> End of the table with the left, right hand is on the switch.

So you never cut boards that are shorter than half the table?

On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:20:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>
> >Survey time...
> >
> >How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
> >while making a cut?
> Shoulder's width. Both arms/hands straight forward.

How close to your miter saw blade do you allow the fingers of
the hand holding the board to get while making a cut.

On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:09:58 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> Survey time...
>
> How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
> while making a cut?

It's sort of like the people that drop to 15mph below the speed limit when they see a cop.
You don't get bonus points for being below the limit.
As long as my hand isn't in the path of the blade it's not getting cut.
The important thing (for me) is to be sure I'm not moving my holding hand as I'm lowering the blade, especially when I'm doing a bunch of repetitive cuts. The little shorties where I'm sure (some) people would freak out of they saw it always have my full attention anyways.
YMMV.

DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
>On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:46:11 PM UTC-4, Markem618 wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Survey time...
>> >
>> >How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
>> >while making a cut?
>> End of the table with the left, right hand is on the switch.
>
>So you never cut boards that are shorter than half the table?

My first miter saw (Delta) had a nice clamp attachment to hold
the board which could be switched to either side.

On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 21:19:58 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

>On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:46:11 PM UTC-4, Markem618 wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Survey time...
>> >
>> >How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
>> >while making a cut?
>> End of the table with the left, right hand is on the switch.
>
>So you never cut boards that are shorter than half the table?

Not on the miter saw.

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
> >On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:46:11 PM UTC-4, Markem618 wrote:
> >> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> >> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Survey time...
> >> >
> >> >How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
> >> >while making a cut?
> >> End of the table with the left, right hand is on the switch.
> >
> >So you never cut boards that are shorter than half the table?
> My first miter saw (Delta) had a nice clamp attachment to hold
> the board which could be switched to either side.

As far as I know, all miter saws come with that accessory.

On my Delta 36-220, it mounts in the front, which is a terrible design.

The rear mounted one on my Bosch Glide saw only gets within 5 1/2"
of the blade. That's often too far away for some of my cuts. I use it
mainly for stop blocks.

The Delta clamp, which holds the board against the fence, not down on
the table, requires that the board be at least 6" long if I recall correctly.
Again, that's too long in many cases. OK for stop blocks.

On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 21:22:40 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

>On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:20:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Survey time...
>> >
>> >How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
>> >while making a cut?
>> Shoulder's width. Both arms/hands straight forward.
>
>How close to your miter saw blade do you allow the fingers of
>the hand holding the board to get while making a cut.

A foot. I don't think I've cut anything less. Any smaller and I use
the table saw.

On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 13:10:50 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

>DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
>>On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:46:11 PM UTC-4, Markem618 wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Survey time...
>>> >
>>> >How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
>>> >while making a cut?
>>> End of the table with the left, right hand is on the switch.
>>
>>So you never cut boards that are shorter than half the table?
>
>My first miter saw (Delta) had a nice clamp attachment to hold
>the board which could be switched to either side.

By Bosch has a clamp, too, but it's as close to useless as it could be
made.

DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
>On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
>> >On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:46:11 PM UTC-4, Markem618 wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> >> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Survey time...
>> >> >
>> >> >How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
>> >> >while making a cut?
>> >> End of the table with the left, right hand is on the switch.
>> >
>> >So you never cut boards that are shorter than half the table?
>> My first miter saw (Delta) had a nice clamp attachment to hold
>> the board which could be switched to either side.
>
>As far as I know, all miter saws come with that accessory.
>
>On my Delta 36-220, it mounts in the front, which is a terrible design.
>
>The rear mounted one on my Bosch Glide saw only gets within 5 1/2"
>of the blade. That's often too far away for some of my cuts. I use it
>mainly for stop blocks.
>
>The Delta clamp, which holds the board against the fence, not down on
>the table, requires that the board be at least 6" long if I recall correctly.
>Again, that's too long in many cases. OK for stop blocks.

Yes, 6". Anything shorter and I use a backsaw or the bandsaw with a miter gauge.

On 8/18/2022 8:10 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:46:11 PM UTC-4, Markem618 wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Survey time...
>>>>
>>>> How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
>>>> while making a cut?
>>> End of the table with the left, right hand is on the switch.
>>
>> So you never cut boards that are shorter than half the table?
>
> My first miter saw (Delta) had a nice clamp attachment to hold
> the board which could be switched to either side.
>

Ohhhhh my Kapex has an EXCELLENT hold down and switches from side to
side with no knobs to twist.

On 8/18/2022 9:37 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:46:11 PM UTC-4, Markem618 wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>>>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Survey time...
>>>>>
>>>>> How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
>>>>> while making a cut?
>>>> End of the table with the left, right hand is on the switch.
>>>
>>> So you never cut boards that are shorter than half the table?
>> My first miter saw (Delta) had a nice clamp attachment to hold
>> the board which could be switched to either side.
>
> As far as I know, all miter saws come with that accessory.

If you can call it that. Some are much more trouble than helpful.

The Kapex is so simple and elegant that it is like the difference in
changing blades in the old Bosch jigsaws to a current Bosch jig saw.

>
> On my Delta 36-220, it mounts in the front, which is a terrible design.
>
> The rear mounted one on my Bosch Glide saw only gets within 5 1/2"
> of the blade. That's often too far away for some of my cuts. I use it
> mainly for stop blocks.
>
> The Delta clamp, which holds the board against the fence, not down on
> the table, requires that the board be at least 6" long if I recall correctly.
> Again, that's too long in many cases. OK for stop blocks.

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 11:48:49 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
> On 8/18/2022 9:37 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> >> DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
> >>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:46:11 PM UTC-4, Markem618 wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> >>>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Survey time...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
> >>>>> while making a cut?
> >>>> End of the table with the left, right hand is on the switch.
> >>>
> >>> So you never cut boards that are shorter than half the table?
> >> My first miter saw (Delta) had a nice clamp attachment to hold
> >> the board which could be switched to either side.
> >
> > As far as I know, all miter saws come with that accessory.
> If you can call it that. Some are much more trouble than helpful.

Like the difference between the old Delta and the new Bosch.

>
> The Kapex is so simple and elegant that it is like the difference in
> changing blades in the old Bosch jigsaws to a current Bosch jig saw.

Assuming the JS470E is current enough, I know what you mean.

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 11:12:54 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 13:10:50 GMT, sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
> wrote:
> >DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
> >>On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:46:11 PM UTC-4, Markem618 wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> >>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >Survey time...
> >>> >
> >>> >How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
> >>> >while making a cut?
> >>> End of the table with the left, right hand is on the switch.
> >>
> >>So you never cut boards that are shorter than half the table?
> >
> >My first miter saw (Delta) had a nice clamp attachment to hold
> >the board which could be switched to either side.
> By Bosch has a clamp, too, but it's as close to useless as it could be
> made.

What model Bosch?

On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 10:57:18 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 11:12:54 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 13:10:50 GMT, sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
>> wrote:
>> >DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
>> >>On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:46:11 PM UTC-4, Markem618 wrote:
>> >>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> >>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> >Survey time...
>> >>> >
>> >>> >How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
>> >>> >while making a cut?
>> >>> End of the table with the left, right hand is on the switch.
>> >>
>> >>So you never cut boards that are shorter than half the table?
>> >
>> >My first miter saw (Delta) had a nice clamp attachment to hold
>> >the board which could be switched to either side.
>> By Bosch has a clamp, too, but it's as close to useless as it could be
>> made.
>
>What model Bosch?

5412, I think. One with the rails towards the back, not the scissors
arm one.

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 4:22:40 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 10:57:18 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 11:12:54 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> >> On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 13:10:50 GMT, sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
> >> wrote:
> >> >DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
> >> >>On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:46:11 PM UTC-4, Markem618 wrote:
> >> >>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> >> >>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> >Survey time...
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
> >> >>> >while making a cut?
> >> >>> End of the table with the left, right hand is on the switch.
> >> >>
> >> >>So you never cut boards that are shorter than half the table?
> >> >
> >> >My first miter saw (Delta) had a nice clamp attachment to hold
> >> >the board which could be switched to either side.
> >> By Bosch has a clamp, too, but it's as close to useless as it could be
> >> made.
> >
> >What model Bosch?
> 5412, I think. One with the rails towards the back, not the scissors
> arm one.

That's a pretty strange looking clamp. WTF were they thinking?

The one on my Bosch Glide saw ("scissors" as you call it) is as simple as it gets. What
more do you need?

https://media.repairtoolparts.com/image/Bosch/1609B02315.jpg

On 8/18/2022 11:11 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 21:22:40 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:20:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Survey time...
>>>>
>>>> How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
>>>> while making a cut?
>>> Shoulder's width. Both arms/hands straight forward.
>>
>> How close to your miter saw blade do you allow the fingers of
>> the hand holding the board to get while making a cut.
>
> A foot. I don't think I've cut anything less. Any smaller and I use
> the table saw.

If I have the least bit of hesitation, I don't hesitate to use a clamp.
I should have even followed that advise when I last used my drill
press...I thought, I got the work held against a fence, that should be
enough--but it wasn't. ; )

On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 20:28:06 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:

>On 8/18/2022 11:11 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 21:22:40 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:20:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>>>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Survey time...
>>>>>
>>>>> How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
>>>>> while making a cut?
>>>> Shoulder's width. Both arms/hands straight forward.
>>>
>>> How close to your miter saw blade do you allow the fingers of
>>> the hand holding the board to get while making a cut.
>>
>> A foot. I don't think I've cut anything less. Any smaller and I use
>> the table saw.
>
>If I have the least bit of hesitation, I don't hesitate to use a clamp.
>I should have even followed that advise when I last used my drill
>press...I thought, I got the work held against a fence, that should be
>enough--but it wasn't. ; )

Yeah, I've been bitten by a drill press more often than all other
tools combined. It looks like such an innocuous tool until the bit
catches, which it always does if the piece isn't anchored. Some bits
are better than others.

On 8/18/2022 10:07 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 20:28:06 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
>
>> On 8/18/2022 11:11 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 21:22:40 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>>> <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:20:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>>>>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Survey time...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
>>>>>> while making a cut?
>>>>> Shoulder's width. Both arms/hands straight forward.
>>>>
>>>> How close to your miter saw blade do you allow the fingers of
>>>> the hand holding the board to get while making a cut.
>>>
>>> A foot. I don't think I've cut anything less. Any smaller and I use
>>> the table saw.
>>
>> If I have the least bit of hesitation, I don't hesitate to use a clamp.
>> I should have even followed that advise when I last used my drill
>> press...I thought, I got the work held against a fence, that should be
>> enough--but it wasn't. ; )
>
> Yeah, I've been bitten by a drill press more often than all other
> tools combined. It looks like such an innocuous tool until the bit
> catches, which it always does if the piece isn't anchored. Some bits
> are better than others.

Good point. The bit I was using was big relative to the size of the
work and I didn't take that into consideration.

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 8:28:12 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
> On 8/18/2022 11:11 AM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 21:22:40 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> > <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:20:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> >>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Survey time...
> >>>>
> >>>> How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
> >>>> while making a cut?
> >>> Shoulder's width. Both arms/hands straight forward.
> >>
> >> How close to your miter saw blade do you allow the fingers of
> >> the hand holding the board to get while making a cut.
> >
> > A foot. I don't think I've cut anything less. Any smaller and I use
> > the table saw.
> If I have the least bit of hesitation, I don't hesitate to use a clamp.
> I should have even followed that advise when I last used my drill
> press...I thought, I got the work held against a fence, that should be
> enough--but it wasn't. ; )

I made a pair of these from some aluminum stock that I had
lying around. They live in the T tracks of my drill press table,
always at the ready.

https://images.app.goo.gl/xTU75zJ616PpjKd6A

DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote in news:e612be32-660f-4c4c-99b7-
9fd396cd2fc1n@googlegroups.com:

> Survey time...
>
> How close to your miter saw blade do you allow your fingers to get
> while making a cut?

I'd say a few inches, maybe 3-4? It's been a while since I've really
looked at the distance. One thing it's easy to do is to allow my thumb to
point out away from my hand so I'm always paying attention to where it is.

The clamp on my CMS wasn't that great, so I'm usually the clamp. I'm not
sure if I even know where it is.

Puckdropper