[snip]

> It claims it is, but all that's there is the hyperlink to the on-line
> manual. I think they believe that most customers are too lazy or too
> ignorant to fuss with adjustments and satisfied using whatever default
> settings exist when the TV is first booted up. Of course, just give the
> remote to any kid under the age of 14 and they'll navigate immediately
> to just what you want to adjust. Doesn't matter if it's a TV, smart
> phone, etc.

What I wish I could do with my TV is turn off overscan. I see nothing
about in the manual or the menus.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The only difference between God and Adolf Hitler is that God is more
proficient at genocide."

On 3/11/24 18:41, Ed P wrote:
> On 3/11/2024 6:40 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
>
>> China has made alkaline batteries affordable for us now, but I
>> remember in the 1990s alkaline batteries (AA, AAA, C, D) were like
>> luxury items. Radio Shack rolled out a gimmick called "Battery Club".
>> If you joined the club for a fee, then you could buy certain number of
>> batteries at a discounted price every month. Today such idea is
>> laughable. Batteries are so cheap now at Amazon and Home Dept, who the
>> hell would join a "Battery Club"?
>>
>
> Would be good for some.  A woman I worked with was single and she use a
> lot of C cell batteries.

I don't hear about C & D sizes much now, although a few years ago I did
have a cat toy that used C cells. Also, during a power outage I went to
a store for a battery-powered radio. The only one they had used C cells
(which they were out of).

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The only difference between God and Adolf Hitler is that God is more
proficient at genocide."

Mark Lloyd wrote on 3/12/2024 1:55 PM:
> On 3/11/24 18:41, Ed P wrote:
>> On 3/11/2024 6:40 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
>>
>>> China has made alkaline batteries affordable for us now, but I
>>> remember in the 1990s alkaline batteries (AA, AAA, C, D) were like
>>> luxury items. Radio Shack rolled out a gimmick called "Battery
>>> Club". If you joined the club for a fee, then you could buy certain
>>> number of batteries at a discounted price every month. Today such
>>> idea is laughable. Batteries are so cheap now at Amazon and Home
>>> Dept, who the hell would join a "Battery Club"?
>>>
>>
>> Would be good for some.  A woman I worked with was single and she use
>> a lot of C cell batteries.
>
> I don't hear about C & D sizes much now, although a few years ago I
> did have a cat toy that used C cells. Also, during a power outage I
> went to a store for a battery-powered radio. The only one they had
> used C cells (which they were out of).
>

Flashlights have all switched to energy efficient LED bulbs. There is no
need for C and D cells. Many power hungry devices come with rechargeable
lithium-ion battery inside. Even the computer mouse I am using now has
built-in rechargeable lithium-ion battery. It is definite a lot lighter
than my old mouse using 2 AA cells. The 2 AA alkaline batteries are
heavier than the mouse itself.

Mark Lloyd wrote on 3/12/2024 1:35 PM:
> [snip]
>
>> It claims it is, but all that's there is the hyperlink to the on-line
>> manual. I think they believe that most customers are too lazy or too
>> ignorant to fuss with adjustments and satisfied using whatever default
>> settings exist when the TV is first booted up.  Of course, just give the
>> remote to any kid under the age of 14 and they'll navigate immediately
>> to just what you want to adjust.  Doesn't matter if it's a TV, smart
>> phone, etc.
>
> What I wish I could do with my TV is turn off overscan. I see nothing
> about in the manual or the menus.
>

This feature might be in your set-top box, independent of your TV.

I found something that might help:

https://www.howtogeek.com/252193/hdtv-overscan-what-it-is-and-why-you-should-probably-turn-it-off/

Start by grabbing your TV's remote and pressing the Menu button. Head to
your TV's picture settings. If you see something called "Overscan", your
life is simple: just turn it off.

If you don’t see that setting, however, it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s
not available on your set—it /probably/ means that the manufacturer
decided to change the name to make it “easier to understand.” In that
case, you’ll have to either keep digging and tweaking till you find it,
or you can do the unthinkable: read the manual. Do you even still have
the manual? Probably not. I bet you can find it online.

Since we're basically friends, though, I compiled a quick list of some
of the most popular manufacturers and what they call overscan on their sets:

Vizio: Change the picture mode to "Normal" (if it isn't already). This
automatically disables overscan.*

*Samsung: Look for the "Screen Fit" option.*

*Insignia: In the advanced options menu, it's surprisingly called
"overscan."

Sharp, LG, and Philips: Unfortunately, we couldn't find a good consensus
on these three brands, so you'll probably just have to Google it for
your specific model.

These won't necessarily be exact for every individual model, but they
should set you in the right direction. Once you’ve found the correct
setting, you can just disable it (or tweak it, if allowed) and you’re
done. Enjoy all that content you never got to see before and didn’t even
realize it.

Check Your Set-Top Boxes, Too

https://static1.howtogeekimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Settings_20160422_1015521.png

That's not all, though! Many set-top boxes—like NVIDIA SHIELD, Amazon
Fire TV, and Apple TV for example—also have their own overscan settings.
So even if your TV has overscan turned off, your set-top box might still
be stretching the picture. In some cases, it could even be an underscan
option, which zooms out on your video in order to overcome the downsides
of overscan.

So, once you've got your TV working properly, check your set-top boxes,
game consoles, and DVD or Blu-ray players for any overscan or underscan
options. Like the TV, it may not be labeled as “overscan,” so don't be
afraid to experiment. And of course this will only apply to that
connection. If you change the overscan settings on your streaming box,
for example, it won’t have any effect on other inputs, like your cable box.

Amazon Fire TV, Apple TV (4th generation), and some Android TV boxes
should all have options to adjust overscan in some way,

Overscan is archaic and outdated, but unfortunately as long as analog
connections exist and content creators continue to use the overscan
area, it’s not something we’re going to get rid of. At least you can
disable it on most modern televisions though, so you can get rid of it
in your own living room. Welcome to the new world.

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 17:54:04 -0400, micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

>In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 14:46:37 -0400, Clare Snyder
><clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 11:54:39 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 10:53:05 -0400, Ed P
>>><esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Might also mention with time change my smart watch got decoupled from
>>>>> phone and would not change.  First I updated the phone ap which called
>>>>> for turning off power saving option on phone but that did not work.
>>>>> Messing around I deleted the phone ap and reinstalled it and coupled
>>>>> phone and it is now OK.  Spent about an hour.  All today's computerized
>>>>> crap can even befuddle those of us that think we are savvy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have UPS backups for the cable boxes and they can also charge a phone.
>>>> You won't get two days from them though.
>>>>
>>>>We rely on electricity now, far more than 20 years ago.
>>>
>>>And batteries. When I grew up the only use for batteries, was the car
>>>battery and flashlights.
>>And the doorbell - and all those cheap japanese toys
>
>Our doorbell was connected to a doorbell transformer, and as to toys, my
>parents didn't buy me such toys. They required batteries.

An example. They were already selling battery-powered toy cars, with a
cable between the control and the car. But I was given a mechanically
powered jeep. To make it go forward or back, one turned a crank on the
control, and to steer one pushed a lever. I'm not complaining. It was
fun and it had no batteries to go dead.

On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 19:41:18 -0400, Ed P posted for all of us to digest...

>
> On 3/11/2024 6:40 PM, ? Mighty Wannabe ? wrote:
>
> > China has made alkaline batteries affordable for us now, but I remember
> > in the 1990s alkaline batteries (AA, AAA, C, D) were like luxury items.
> > Radio Shack rolled out a gimmick called "Battery Club". If you joined
> > the club for a fee, then you could buy certain number of batteries at a
> > discounted price every month. Today such idea is laughable. Batteries
> > are so cheap now at Amazon and Home Dept, who the hell would join a
> > "Battery Club"?
> >
>
> Would be good for some. A woman I worked with was single and she use a
> lot of C cell batteries.

Sneaking another one in, aye Ed?

--
Hiram