My thermostat for the AC/heat pump is a bit more complex than the
Honeywell, etc for heat only. You have to select some equipment in the
settings that I've never had to touch since the house was new.

This morning, there was a brief power outage, just a minute or so. I
happened to see the temperature setting was incorrect so I reset it and
forgot about it. As the day wore on, the temperature went up and finally
hit the set point to kick on the AC. I heard it go on, but after a few
minutes, it was putting out hot air. Played with the touch screen, no go.

I called my son and got the name of an AC guy that lives in our
community. I called him, told him the problem and he walked me through
the setup menu and said it takes about 10 minutes to reset. Sure
enough, it worked.

This is a guy that never heard of me but he helped get me going and did
not ask for any payment. So, I scheduled the annual cleaning and
checkup. He will be my new service guy.

In <usjh2o$2qe38$1@dont-email.me> Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx> writes:

[snip]

>I called my son and got the name of an AC guy that lives in our
>community. I called him, told him the problem and he walked me through
>the setup menu and said it takes about 10 minutes to reset. Sure
>enough, it worked.

>This is a guy that never heard of me but he helped get me going and did
>not ask for any payment. So, I scheduled the annual cleaning and
>checkup. He will be my new service guy.

One way I handle these "good guy/no charge" cases is
ask them if there's a charity they like. If they
don't have a quick answer, I ask if they'd be ok
if I gave some extra money to a foodbank in their
area. (If it's a techie I'll suggest the EFF...)

--
_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
dannyb@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

On 3/10/2024 12:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> My thermostat for the AC/heat pump is a bit more complex than the
> Honeywell, etc for heat only.  You have to select some equipment in the
> settings that I've never had to touch since the house was new.
>
> This morning, there was a brief power outage, just a minute or so.   I
> happened to see the temperature setting was incorrect so I reset it and
> forgot about it. As the day wore on, the temperature went up and finally
> hit the set point to kick on the AC.  I heard it go on, but after a few
> minutes, it was putting out hot air.  Played with the touch screen, no go.
>
> I called my son and got the name of an AC guy that lives in our
> community.  I called him, told him the problem and he walked me through
> the setup menu and said it takes about 10 minutes to reset.  Sure
> enough, it worked.
>
> This is a guy that never heard of me but he helped get me going and did
> not ask for any payment.  So, I scheduled the annual cleaning and
> checkup.  He will be my new service guy.

I have a Honeywell with new heat pump but still cold here and will be of
interest to change in the summer.

On a very cold day we had a two day power failure that dropped temp
inside by nearly twenty degrees. Wife was concerned when power returned
and it was not working immediately but I told her to wait awhile and it
came back to normal.

Might also mention with time change my smart watch got decoupled from
phone and would not change. First I updated the phone ap which called
for turning off power saving option on phone but that did not work.
Messing around I deleted the phone ap and reinstalled it and coupled
phone and it is now OK. Spent about an hour. All today's computerized
crap can even befuddle those of us that think we are savvy.

Frank wrote on 3/11/2024 10:36 AM:
> On 3/10/2024 12:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> My thermostat for the AC/heat pump is a bit more complex than the
>> Honeywell, etc for heat only.  You have to select some equipment in
>> the settings that I've never had to touch since the house was new.
>>
>> This morning, there was a brief power outage, just a minute or so.  
>> I happened to see the temperature setting was incorrect so I reset it
>> and forgot about it. As the day wore on, the temperature went up and
>> finally hit the set point to kick on the AC.  I heard it go on, but
>> after a few minutes, it was putting out hot air.  Played with the
>> touch screen, no go.
>>
>> I called my son and got the name of an AC guy that lives in our
>> community.  I called him, told him the problem and he walked me
>> through the setup menu and said it takes about 10 minutes to reset. 
>> Sure enough, it worked.
>>
>> This is a guy that never heard of me but he helped get me going and
>> did not ask for any payment.  So, I scheduled the annual cleaning and
>> checkup.  He will be my new service guy.
>
> I have a Honeywell with new heat pump but still cold here and will be
> of interest to change in the summer.
>
> On a very cold day we had a two day power failure that dropped temp
> inside by nearly twenty degrees.  Wife was concerned when power
> returned and it was not working immediately but I told her to wait
> awhile and it came back to normal.
>
> Might also mention with time change my smart watch got decoupled from
> phone and would not change.  First I updated the phone ap which called
> for turning off power saving option on phone but that did not work.
> Messing around I deleted the phone ap and reinstalled it and coupled
> phone and it is now OK.  Spent about an hour.  All today's
> computerized crap can even befuddle those of us that think we are savvy.

People are to lazy to read the instruction manual thoroughly.

On 3/11/2024 10:36 AM, Frank wrote:
> On 3/10/2024 12:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> My thermostat for the AC/heat pump is a bit more complex than the
>> Honeywell, etc for heat only.  You have to select some equipment in
>> the settings that I've never had to touch since the house was new.
>>
>> This morning, there was a brief power outage, just a minute or so.   I
>> happened to see the temperature setting was incorrect so I reset it
>> and forgot about it. As the day wore on, the temperature went up and
>> finally hit the set point to kick on the AC.  I heard it go on, but
>> after a few minutes, it was putting out hot air.  Played with the
>> touch screen, no go.
>>
>> I called my son and got the name of an AC guy that lives in our
>> community.  I called him, told him the problem and he walked me
>> through the setup menu and said it takes about 10 minutes to reset.
>> Sure enough, it worked.
>>
>> This is a guy that never heard of me but he helped get me going and
>> did not ask for any payment.  So, I scheduled the annual cleaning and
>> checkup.  He will be my new service guy.
>
> I have a Honeywell with new heat pump but still cold here and will be of
> interest to change in the summer.
>
> On a very cold day we had a two day power failure that dropped temp
> inside by nearly twenty degrees.  Wife was concerned when power returned
> and it was not working immediately but I told her to wait awhile and it
> came back to normal.
>
> Might also mention with time change my smart watch got decoupled from
> phone and would not change.  First I updated the phone ap which called
> for turning off power saving option on phone but that did not work.
> Messing around I deleted the phone ap and reinstalled it and coupled
> phone and it is now OK.  Spent about an hour.  All today's computerized
> crap can even befuddle those of us that think we are savvy.

I have UPS backups for the cable boxes and they can also charge a phone.
You won't get two days from them though.

We rely on electricity now, far more than 20 years ago.

On 3/11/2024 10:53 AM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
> Frank wrote on 3/11/2024 10:36 AM:
>> On 3/10/2024 12:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> My thermostat for the AC/heat pump is a bit more complex than the
>>> Honeywell, etc for heat only.  You have to select some equipment in
>>> the settings that I've never had to touch since the house was new.
>>>
>>> This morning, there was a brief power outage, just a minute or so.  
>>> I happened to see the temperature setting was incorrect so I reset it
>>> and forgot about it. As the day wore on, the temperature went up and
>>> finally hit the set point to kick on the AC.  I heard it go on, but
>>> after a few minutes, it was putting out hot air.  Played with the
>>> touch screen, no go.
>>>
>>> I called my son and got the name of an AC guy that lives in our
>>> community.  I called him, told him the problem and he walked me
>>> through the setup menu and said it takes about 10 minutes to reset. 
>>> Sure enough, it worked.
>>>
>>> This is a guy that never heard of me but he helped get me going and
>>> did not ask for any payment.  So, I scheduled the annual cleaning and
>>> checkup.  He will be my new service guy.
>>
>> I have a Honeywell with new heat pump but still cold here and will be
>> of interest to change in the summer.
>>
>> On a very cold day we had a two day power failure that dropped temp
>> inside by nearly twenty degrees.  Wife was concerned when power
>> returned and it was not working immediately but I told her to wait
>> awhile and it came back to normal.
>>
>> Might also mention with time change my smart watch got decoupled from
>> phone and would not change.  First I updated the phone ap which called
>> for turning off power saving option on phone but that did not work.
>> Messing around I deleted the phone ap and reinstalled it and coupled
>> phone and it is now OK.  Spent about an hour.  All today's
>> computerized crap can even befuddle those of us that think we are savvy.
>
>
> People are to lazy to read the instruction manual thoroughly.
>
>
>

Instruction manuals are too often written by the engineers who designed
the item. They seem insufficiently tested by a panel of representative
consumers. Even worse, some seem to be written by people whose first
language is not English and their English is poor. Of course, the trend
today is to sell a complicated piece of expensive home use technology
and to save a few cents, the manual has been replaced by a small sheet
of paper with the URL of the on-line manual which is so hyperlinked that
it can't be printed as a single document. Last year I bought a name
brand 4K HD tv for >$1K. No manual included, just a URL. Went on-line.
Almost useless. Best source of information - a conventional web search
for the feature I want to access. What used to take about an hour to
adjust to my preferences took a complete afternoon.

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 10:53:05 -0400, Ed P
<esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

>
>> Might also mention with time change my smart watch got decoupled from
>> phone and would not change.  First I updated the phone ap which called
>> for turning off power saving option on phone but that did not work.
>> Messing around I deleted the phone ap and reinstalled it and coupled
>> phone and it is now OK.  Spent about an hour.  All today's computerized
>> crap can even befuddle those of us that think we are savvy.
>
>
>I have UPS backups for the cable boxes and they can also charge a phone.
> You won't get two days from them though.
>
>We rely on electricity now, far more than 20 years ago.

And batteries. When I grew up the only use for batteries, was the car
battery and flashlights.

Retirednoguilt wrote on 3/11/2024 11:51 AM:
> On 3/11/2024 10:53 AM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
>> Frank wrote on 3/11/2024 10:36 AM:
>>> On 3/10/2024 12:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> My thermostat for the AC/heat pump is a bit more complex than the
>>>> Honeywell, etc for heat only.  You have to select some equipment in
>>>> the settings that I've never had to touch since the house was new.
>>>>
>>>> This morning, there was a brief power outage, just a minute or so.
>>>> I happened to see the temperature setting was incorrect so I reset it
>>>> and forgot about it. As the day wore on, the temperature went up and
>>>> finally hit the set point to kick on the AC.  I heard it go on, but
>>>> after a few minutes, it was putting out hot air.  Played with the
>>>> touch screen, no go.
>>>>
>>>> I called my son and got the name of an AC guy that lives in our
>>>> community.  I called him, told him the problem and he walked me
>>>> through the setup menu and said it takes about 10 minutes to reset.
>>>> Sure enough, it worked.
>>>>
>>>> This is a guy that never heard of me but he helped get me going and
>>>> did not ask for any payment.  So, I scheduled the annual cleaning and
>>>> checkup.  He will be my new service guy.
>>> I have a Honeywell with new heat pump but still cold here and will be
>>> of interest to change in the summer.
>>>
>>> On a very cold day we had a two day power failure that dropped temp
>>> inside by nearly twenty degrees.  Wife was concerned when power
>>> returned and it was not working immediately but I told her to wait
>>> awhile and it came back to normal.
>>>
>>> Might also mention with time change my smart watch got decoupled from
>>> phone and would not change.  First I updated the phone ap which called
>>> for turning off power saving option on phone but that did not work.
>>> Messing around I deleted the phone ap and reinstalled it and coupled
>>> phone and it is now OK.  Spent about an hour.  All today's
>>> computerized crap can even befuddle those of us that think we are savvy.
>>
>> People are too lazy to read the instruction manual thoroughly.
>>
>>
>>
> Instruction manuals are too often written by the engineers who designed
> the item. They seem insufficiently tested by a panel of representative
> consumers. Even worse, some seem to be written by people whose first
> language is not English and their English is poor. Of course, the trend
> today is to sell a complicated piece of expensive home use technology
> and to save a few cents, the manual has been replaced by a small sheet
> of paper with the URL of the on-line manual which is so hyperlinked that
> it can't be printed as a single document. Last year I bought a name
> brand 4K HD tv for >$1K. No manual included, just a URL. Went on-line.
> Almost useless. Best source of information - a conventional web search
> for the feature I want to access. What used to take about an hour to
> adjust to my preferences took a complete afternoon.

The instruction manual might be embedded in the onscreen menu of your
name brand 4K HD TV. Try to look for it.

On 3/11/2024 10:53 AM, Ed P wrote:
> On 3/11/2024 10:36 AM, Frank wrote:
>> On 3/10/2024 12:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> My thermostat for the AC/heat pump is a bit more complex than the
>>> Honeywell, etc for heat only.  You have to select some equipment in
>>> the settings that I've never had to touch since the house was new.
>>>
>>> This morning, there was a brief power outage, just a minute or so.
>>> I happened to see the temperature setting was incorrect so I reset it
>>> and forgot about it. As the day wore on, the temperature went up and
>>> finally hit the set point to kick on the AC.  I heard it go on, but
>>> after a few minutes, it was putting out hot air.  Played with the
>>> touch screen, no go.
>>>
>>> I called my son and got the name of an AC guy that lives in our
>>> community.  I called him, told him the problem and he walked me
>>> through the setup menu and said it takes about 10 minutes to reset.
>>> Sure enough, it worked.
>>>
>>> This is a guy that never heard of me but he helped get me going and
>>> did not ask for any payment.  So, I scheduled the annual cleaning and
>>> checkup.  He will be my new service guy.
>>
>> I have a Honeywell with new heat pump but still cold here and will be
>> of interest to change in the summer.
>>
>> On a very cold day we had a two day power failure that dropped temp
>> inside by nearly twenty degrees.  Wife was concerned when power
>> returned and it was not working immediately but I told her to wait
>> awhile and it came back to normal.
>>
>> Might also mention with time change my smart watch got decoupled from
>> phone and would not change.  First I updated the phone ap which called
>> for turning off power saving option on phone but that did not work.
>> Messing around I deleted the phone ap and reinstalled it and coupled
>> phone and it is now OK.  Spent about an hour.  All today's
>> computerized crap can even befuddle those of us that think we are savvy.
>
>
> I have UPS backups for the cable boxes and they can also charge a phone.
>  You won't get two days from them though.
>
> We rely on electricity now, far more than 20 years ago.

I have a generator that could handle our oil furnace but not the heat pump.

Just talking to my wife about getting a UPS for the modem as a power
glitch this morning knocked out phone for a few minutes while it reset.

In <usnao0$3mtql$1@dont-email.me> Frank <"frank "@frank.net> writes:

[snip]

>Just talking to my wife about getting a UPS for the modem as a power
>glitch this morning knocked out phone for a few minutes while it reset.

Eyup. I've got a bunch of old, battery marginal, UPS'es for
just those purposes. They give me a few minutes on the
lowish power cable modem and some similars.. but that's wnough
to cover the half second hiccups when The Grid 20 miles away
cuts in and out...

--
_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
dannyb@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

On 3/11/2024 12:25 PM, danny burstein wrote:
> In <usnao0$3mtql$1@dont-email.me> Frank <"frank "@frank.net> writes:
>
> [snip]
>
>> Just talking to my wife about getting a UPS for the modem as a power
>> glitch this morning knocked out phone for a few minutes while it reset.
>
> Eyup. I've got a bunch of old, battery marginal, UPS'es for
> just those purposes. They give me a few minutes on the
> lowish power cable modem and some similars.. but that's wnough
> to cover the half second hiccups when The Grid 20 miles away
> cuts in and out...
>

Yes, and the cable box takes forever to reboot after a few second
hiccup. Not life changing, but annoying

On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 11:54:39 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 10:53:05 -0400, Ed P
><esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>> Might also mention with time change my smart watch got decoupled from
>>> phone and would not change.  First I updated the phone ap which called
>>> for turning off power saving option on phone but that did not work.
>>> Messing around I deleted the phone ap and reinstalled it and coupled
>>> phone and it is now OK.  Spent about an hour.  All today's computerized
>>> crap can even befuddle those of us that think we are savvy.
>>
>>
>>I have UPS backups for the cable boxes and they can also charge a phone.
>> You won't get two days from them though.
>>
>>We rely on electricity now, far more than 20 years ago.
>
>And batteries. When I grew up the only use for batteries, was the car
>battery and flashlights.
And the doorbell - and all those cheap japanese toys

On 3/11/2024 12:09 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:

[snip]

>>> People are too lazy to read the instruction manual thoroughly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Instruction manuals are too often written by the engineers who designed
>> the item. They seem insufficiently tested by a panel of representative
>> consumers. Even worse, some seem to be written by people whose first
>> language is not English and their English is poor. Of course, the trend
>> today is to sell a complicated piece of expensive home use technology
>> and to save a few cents, the manual has been replaced by a small sheet
>> of paper with the URL of the on-line manual which is so hyperlinked that
>> it can't be printed as a single document. Last year I bought a name
>> brand 4K HD tv for >$1K. No manual included, just a URL. Went on-line.
>> Almost useless. Best source of information - a conventional web search
>> for the feature I want to access. What used to take about an hour to
>> adjust to my preferences took a complete afternoon.
>
> The instruction manual might be embedded in the onscreen menu of your
> name brand 4K HD TV. Try to look for it.
>
>

It claims it is, but all that's there is the hyperlink to the on-line
manual. I think they believe that most customers are too lazy or too
ignorant to fuss with adjustments and satisfied using whatever default
settings exist when the TV is first booted up. Of course, just give the
remote to any kid under the age of 14 and they'll navigate immediately
to just what you want to adjust. Doesn't matter if it's a TV, smart
phone, etc.

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 14:46:37 -0400, Clare Snyder
<clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:

>On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 11:54:39 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 10:53:05 -0400, Ed P
>><esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Might also mention with time change my smart watch got decoupled from
>>>> phone and would not change.  First I updated the phone ap which called
>>>> for turning off power saving option on phone but that did not work.
>>>> Messing around I deleted the phone ap and reinstalled it and coupled
>>>> phone and it is now OK.  Spent about an hour.  All today's computerized
>>>> crap can even befuddle those of us that think we are savvy.
>>>
>>>
>>>I have UPS backups for the cable boxes and they can also charge a phone.
>>> You won't get two days from them though.
>>>
>>>We rely on electricity now, far more than 20 years ago.
>>
>>And batteries. When I grew up the only use for batteries, was the car
>>battery and flashlights.
>And the doorbell - and all those cheap japanese toys

Our doorbell was connected to a doorbell transformer, and as to toys, my
parents didn't buy me such toys. They required batteries.

micky wrote on 3/11/2024 5:54 PM:
> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 14:46:37 -0400, Clare Snyder
> <clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 11:54:39 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 10:53:05 -0400, Ed P
>>> <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Might also mention with time change my smart watch got decoupled from
>>>>> phone and would not change.  First I updated the phone ap which called
>>>>> for turning off power saving option on phone but that did not work.
>>>>> Messing around I deleted the phone ap and reinstalled it and coupled
>>>>> phone and it is now OK.  Spent about an hour.  All today's computerized
>>>>> crap can even befuddle those of us that think we are savvy.
>>>>
>>>> I have UPS backups for the cable boxes and they can also charge a phone.
>>>> You won't get two days from them though.
>>>>
>>>> We rely on electricity now, far more than 20 years ago.
>>> And batteries. When I grew up the only use for batteries, was the car
>>> battery and flashlights.
>> And the doorbell - and all those cheap japanese toys
> Our doorbell was connected to a doorbell transformer, and as to toys, my
> parents didn't buy me such toys. They required batteries.

China has made alkaline batteries affordable for us now, but I remember
in the 1990s alkaline batteries (AA, AAA, C, D) were like luxury items.
Radio Shack rolled out a gimmick called "Battery Club". If you joined
the club for a fee, then you could buy certain number of batteries at a
discounted price every month. Today such idea is laughable. Batteries
are so cheap now at Amazon and Home Dept, who the hell would join a
"Battery Club"?

On 3/11/2024 6:40 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:

> China has made alkaline batteries affordable for us now, but I remember
> in the 1990s alkaline batteries (AA, AAA, C, D) were like luxury items.
> Radio Shack rolled out a gimmick called "Battery Club". If you joined
> the club for a fee, then you could buy certain number of batteries at a
> discounted price every month. Today such idea is laughable. Batteries
> are so cheap now at Amazon and Home Dept, who the hell would join a
> "Battery Club"?
>

Would be good for some. A woman I worked with was single and she use a
lot of C cell batteries.

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 18:40:47 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe
? <@.> wrote:

>
>China has made alkaline batteries affordable for us now, but I remember
>in the 1990s alkaline batteries (AA, AAA, C, D) were like luxury items.
>Radio Shack rolled out a gimmick called "Battery Club". If you joined

I don't know for sure if I was i nthe Battery Club, but I had a battery
card for no charge and they gave me a free battery every time I went in
there, up to once a month iirc.

>the club for a fee, then you could buy certain number of batteries at a
>discounted price every month. Today such idea is laughable. Batteries
>are so cheap now at Amazon and Home Dept, who the hell would join a
>"Battery Club"?
>
>
>

micky wrote on 3/11/2024 9:17 PM:
> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 18:40:47 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe
> ? <@.> wrote:
>
>> China has made alkaline batteries affordable for us now, but I remember
>> in the 1990s alkaline batteries (AA, AAA, C, D) were like luxury items.
>> Radio Shack rolled out a gimmick called "Battery Club". If you joined
> I don't know for sure if I was i nthe Battery Club, but I had a battery
> card for no charge and they gave me a free battery every time I went in
> there, up to once a month iirc.
>

It's either I remembered it wrong, or it was a different deal in Canada.
Radio Shack is no more in Canada. "The Source" doesn't sell resistors
and capacitors like Radio Shack did. I bought quite many things from
Radio Shack back in the days. I remembered every electronic gadget they
sold came with circuit diagram (schematic). I was into building my own
amplifier, radio receiver and transmitter back then. When I open up an
amplifier or a radio I can identifier all the different stages on the
printed circuit board. I think the reason Radio Shack included circuit
diagrams for their products was for electronic hobbyists like me.

>> the club for a fee, then you could buy certain number of batteries at a
>> discounted price every month. Today such idea is laughable. Batteries
>> are so cheap now at Amazon and Home Dept, who the hell would join a
>> "Battery Club"?
>>
>>
>>

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 21:41:38 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe
? <@.> wrote:

>micky wrote on 3/11/2024 9:17 PM:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 18:40:47 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe
>> ? <@.> wrote:
>>
>>> China has made alkaline batteries affordable for us now, but I remember
>>> in the 1990s alkaline batteries (AA, AAA, C, D) were like luxury items.
>>> Radio Shack rolled out a gimmick called "Battery Club". If you joined
>> I don't know for sure if I was i nthe Battery Club, but I had a battery
>> card for no charge and they gave me a free battery every time I went in
>> there, up to once a month iirc.
>>
>
>It's either I remembered it wrong, or it was a different deal in Canada.
>Radio Shack is no more in Canada. "The Source" doesn't sell resistors
>and capacitors like Radio Shack did. I bought quite many things from
>Radio Shack back in the days. I remembered every electronic gadget they
>sold came with circuit diagram (schematic). I was into building my own
>amplifier, radio receiver and transmitter back then. When I open up an
>amplifier or a radio I can identifier all the different stages on the
>printed circuit board. I think the reason Radio Shack included circuit
>diagrams for their products was for electronic hobbyists like me.

Now Radio Shack continues to make airplanes, In fact it made the Enola
Gay, that was used to bomb Hiroshima.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enola_Gay#/media/File:Enola_Gay_(plane).jpg>

>>> the club for a fee, then you could buy certain number of batteries at a
>>> discounted price every month. Today such idea is laughable. Batteries
>>> are so cheap now at Amazon and Home Dept, who the hell would join a
>>> "Battery Club"?
>>>
>>>
>>>

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 23:25:01 -0400, micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

>
>>It's either I remembered it wrong, or it was a different deal in Canada.
>>Radio Shack is no more in Canada. "The Source" doesn't sell resistors
>>and capacitors like Radio Shack did. I bought quite many things from
>>Radio Shack back in the days. I remembered every electronic gadget they
>>sold came with circuit diagram (schematic). I was into building my own
>>amplifier, radio receiver and transmitter back then. When I open up an
>>amplifier or a radio I can identifier all the different stages on the
>>printed circuit board. I think the reason Radio Shack included circuit
>>diagrams for their products was for electronic hobbyists like me.
>
>Now Radio Shack continues to make airplanes, In fact it made the Enola
>Gay, that was used to bomb Hiroshima.
>
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enola_Gay#/media/File:Enola_Gay_(plane).jpg>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enola_Gay#/media/File:Enola_Gay2-PS.jpg>

On 2024-03-11, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
> On 3/11/2024 10:36 AM, Frank wrote:
>> On 3/10/2024 12:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> My thermostat for the AC/heat pump is a bit more complex than the
>>> Honeywell, etc for heat only.  You have to select some equipment in
>>> the settings that I've never had to touch since the house was new.
>>>
>>> This morning, there was a brief power outage, just a minute or so.   I
>>> happened to see the temperature setting was incorrect so I reset it
>>> and forgot about it. As the day wore on, the temperature went up and
>>> finally hit the set point to kick on the AC.  I heard it go on, but
>>> after a few minutes, it was putting out hot air.  Played with the
>>> touch screen, no go.
>>>
>>> I called my son and got the name of an AC guy that lives in our
>>> community.  I called him, told him the problem and he walked me
>>> through the setup menu and said it takes about 10 minutes to reset.
>>> Sure enough, it worked.
>>>
>>> This is a guy that never heard of me but he helped get me going and
>>> did not ask for any payment.  So, I scheduled the annual cleaning and
>>> checkup.  He will be my new service guy.
>>
>> I have a Honeywell with new heat pump but still cold here and will be of
>> interest to change in the summer.
>>
>> On a very cold day we had a two day power failure that dropped temp
>> inside by nearly twenty degrees.  Wife was concerned when power returned
>> and it was not working immediately but I told her to wait awhile and it
>> came back to normal.
>>
>> Might also mention with time change my smart watch got decoupled from
>> phone and would not change.  First I updated the phone ap which called
>> for turning off power saving option on phone but that did not work.
>> Messing around I deleted the phone ap and reinstalled it and coupled
>> phone and it is now OK.  Spent about an hour.  All today's computerized
>> crap can even befuddle those of us that think we are savvy.
>
>
> I have UPS backups for the cable boxes and they can also charge a phone.
> You won't get two days from them though.
>
> We rely on electricity now, far more than 20 years ago.

My husband has a UPS for his CPAP. For pretty much everything else
we have an automatic standby generator and just tolerate the 15-second
lag between the power going out and the generator kicking on. Most
of the clocks have a battery backup. The range hood is the only one
that I have to reset after a power failure.

--
Cindy Hamilton

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> writes:
>In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 18:40:47 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe
>? <@.> wrote:
>
>>
>>China has made alkaline batteries affordable for us now, but I remember
>>in the 1990s alkaline batteries (AA, AAA, C, D) were like luxury items.
>>Radio Shack rolled out a gimmick called "Battery Club". If you joined
>
>I don't know for sure if I was i nthe Battery Club, but I had a battery
>card for no charge and they gave me a free battery every time I went in
>there, up to once a month iirc.

I still have Radio Shack/Tandy battery club cards from the 1970s.

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:57:46 GMT,
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:

>micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> writes:
>>In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 18:40:47 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe
>>? <@.> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>China has made alkaline batteries affordable for us now, but I remember
>>>in the 1990s alkaline batteries (AA, AAA, C, D) were like luxury items.
>>>Radio Shack rolled out a gimmick called "Battery Club". If you joined
>>
>>I don't know for sure if I was i nthe Battery Club, but I had a battery
>>card for no charge and they gave me a free battery every time I went in
>>there, up to once a month iirc.
>
>I still have Radio Shack/Tandy battery club cards from the 1970s.

I'm sure they will be good again. My grandfather saved all his
Confederate money, too, and he left it to me and I'm waiting until I can
redeem it.

[snip]

> And the doorbell - and all those cheap japanese toys

The toys remind me of one definition of "Silent Night": One night, a few
days after Christmas, when all the batteries have died.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The only difference between God and Adolf Hitler is that God is more
proficient at genocide."

micky wrote on 3/12/2024 12:31 PM:
> In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:57:46 GMT,
> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>
>> micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> writes:
>>> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 18:40:47 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe
>>> ? <@.> wrote:
>>>
>>>> China has made alkaline batteries affordable for us now, but I remember
>>>> in the 1990s alkaline batteries (AA, AAA, C, D) were like luxury items.
>>>> Radio Shack rolled out a gimmick called "Battery Club". If you joined
>>> I don't know for sure if I was i nthe Battery Club, but I had a battery
>>> card for no charge and they gave me a free battery every time I went in
>>> there, up to once a month iirc.
>> I still have Radio Shack/Tandy battery club cards from the 1970s.
> I'm sure they will be good again. My grandfather saved all his
> Confederate money, too, and he left it to me and I'm waiting until I can
> redeem it.

You need a time machine.