micky wrote on 3/7/2024 3:13 PM:
> In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 7 Mar 2024 14:44:53 -0500, ? Mighty Wannabe
> ? <@.> wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote on 3/7/2024 11:56 AM:
>>> On 3/7/2024 6:08 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On 2024-03-07, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 06 Mar 2024 18:28:32 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We had a buckeye tree when we bought the house.  I had my husband chop
>>>>>> it down after those spiny motherfucking seed capsules went down my
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> while I was mowing.
>>>>> Those are different from horse chestnuts? They're are sort of spiny
>>>>> but I
>>>>> don't know how you'd get one down your back.
>>>> Picture sitting on a lawn tractor, mowing underneath it.
>>>>
>>> I have Chinese chestnut trees and the spiny husks are probably the
>>> size of your fist.  You must wear some pretty lose clothes.  I have
>>> been whacked on the head a couple of times with chestnuts but not spines.
>>>
>>> Sorry I ever planted these trees as I used to be deluged with chestnut
>>> and trees are down hill.  Now that they are old they do not yield as
>>> much and I have to fight deer and squirrels to get any.
>>
>> More likely you haven't fertilized the soil. When the tree was young, it
>> was spreading its roots to new soil. After a while the nutrients in the
>> soil covered by the roots would be depleted. You should buy some of these
>> "fruit tree fertilizer spikes" and follow the instructions.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Jobes-Fertilizer-Shrubs-Spikes-Ounces/dp/B09YQ8W4PX
>>
> Speaking of tending to trees, after my father died, some gardener told
> my mother she needed to dig a doughnut hole around our oak tree, that
> was in the front of the house. She didn't know anything about oak trees
> and wondered if he was conning her but she did it. About a foot deep
> and a foot from inner circle to outer. I've never found anyone who said
> this was a good idea, but I've heared that Dutch Elm disease spreads
> from tree to tree through the soil. Maybe the guy was confusing elm
> trees with oak trees.
>
> That was 67 years ago, and the tree was maybe 30 years old then, and the
> tree still looks great. I know oak trees live a long time anyhow, but
> at least the ditch didn't hurt it. It's almost 4 feet in diameter.

The doughnut hole might facilitate water getting into the soil to water
the roots of the old oak tree. A lawn covered by grass and thatch would
prevent water from penetrating deep into the soil, unless you frequently
aerate and dethatch the lawn.

>
> When I was there 30 years ago the hole looked pretty much the same as 36
> years earlier, except the lip was curled down an inch or two. And last
> summer the hole was still there, looked almost the same. I thought it
> might be filled in by the wind or something but it was only an inch or
> two less deep than it had been. And the tree is doing so well that the
> owner spent 2500 dollars to prune it. It covers half the house and all
> of the front yard (and before it was pruned it obscured the whole 2nd
> floor from the street, and may have covered the whole house).
>
> https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0195541,-80.3414499,3a,75y,355.01h,109.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2xim3XWD1gwHaY_MBnEmzw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu
>
> https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0196832,-80.3415477,46m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&entry=ttu

How many hundred pounds of acorns did you get every year when you live
there?

>
> Cindy, it was worth going back just to see how the hole was doing.

On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 14:23:56 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

>Townhouss here sell fairly fast. But I can afford to be buried even
>before the house sells, so it's not my problem.

Have you checked into being buried in your convertible, with the top down, of
course?

On 2024-03-07, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:10:16 -0500, Ed P
><esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>>On 3/6/2024 5:05 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-06, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
>>>> In article <65e8b5d0$0$2077922$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>> hamilton@invalid.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think flippers are pretty easy to find.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only if they think they can make money. It's a crappy two-bedroom
>>>>> house on a crawlspace. Still, I considered I might simply cease to
>>>>> pay the property taxes and make it the county's problem. If I'm
>>>>> willing to do that, I'm also willing to let it go for bottom
>>>>> dollar.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Depencing on where the house is, the land may be worth more than the
>>>> house.
>>>
>>> In a crappy downmarket Detroit suburb. The lot isn't even wide
>>> enough for a driveway next to the house (as is customary with all
>>> other lots in the neighborhood).
>>>
>>>> It may be better to flip it yourself.
>>>
>>> No. No. No. I'm done killing myself with big projects. It
>
> I don't blame you. Just tthe thought of having to search for and call
> more than one number to find a willing flipper wears me out.

"Flip it myself" means I do all the damned work, not sell it to
a flipper.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-03-07, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on 06 Mar 2024 18:28:32 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
><hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2024-03-06, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't mind the other changes but I "loved" the buckeye tree. The
>>> buckeyes were beautiful and the tree grew over my sandbox.
>>
>>We had a buckeye tree when we bought the house. I had my husband
>>chop it down after those spiny motherfucking seed capsules went
>>down my back while I was mowing.
>
> I spent a lot of time in my sandbox and don't remember ever seeing one
> of them fall down.
>
> But I see you were pushing through. Although I was shorter then I still
> think our tree was tall enough to mow under it, plus we had city grass
> and a hand push lawnmower, and the sandbox was 5x5 or 6x6 so that didn't
> have to be mowed.
>
>>> My attachment to the tree was far, far less than one would feel towards
>>> a dog, but to understand, imagine that your pet dog had gone to live
>>> with someone else years ago, and then it died. Would you care.
>>
>>When my cat-hating boyfriend moved in, I made my mother take my cats.
>>I was indifferent when they died.
>
> Almost just like my hypotheteical question, but a different answer from
> what I expected. Of course they were cats and not dogs. I wouldn't
> care about most (all?) cats either.
>
>>>>you considered for a millisecond that you should sue.)
>>>
>>> You're right!
>>>
>>>>Someone recently tore down the house I lived in until I was 9 years
>>>>old and built a McMansion. I just don't care.
>>>>
>>>>When my mother dies, I'll sell her house (in which I lived from
>>>>age 9 to 18). I don't care what happens to it, either. I'm hoping
>>>>I can sell it to a flipper who's willing to dispose of all her stuff.
>>>>Otherwise I'll have to rent a dumpster.
>>>
>>> I think flippers are pretty easy to find.
>>
>>Only if they think they can make money. It's a crappy two-bedroom
>>house on a crawlspace. Still, I considered I might simply cease to
>>pay the property taxes and make it the county's problem. If I'm
>>willing to do that, I'm also willing to let it go for bottom
>>dollar.
>
> Townhouss here sell fairly fast. But I can afford to be buried even
> before the house sells, so it's not my problem.

It's not my mother's problem, either. It's mine. She'll be
cremated and landfilled before the estate clears probate.

--
Cindy Hamilton

Jim Joyce wrote:

> On 06 Mar 2024 22:08:18 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 2024-03-06, Jim Joyce <none@none.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 06 Mar 2024 18:28:32 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> >>>On 2024-03-06, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> >>>> I don't mind the other changes but I "loved" the buckeye tree.
> The >>>> buckeyes were beautiful and the tree grew over my sandbox.
> > > >
> > > > We had a buckeye tree when we bought the house. I had my
> > > > husband chop it down after those spiny motherfucking seed
> > > > capsules went down my back while I was mowing.
> > >
> >> A Navy vet, obviously. Thank you for your service. ;-)
> >
> > I'm afraid not. I thought about enlisting after my first year
> > of college, and they would have loved to have me based on my test
> > scores, but I was way too fat.
>
> It was a swearing joke, but I get it, thanks.

Chuckle, we don't actually cuss as much as as the media would have you
believe. Sure, a slight phase when junior but it fades. We *can* of
course, and effectively.

> >> As for the tree, I'd say it had it coming. You don't drop your
> spiny >> motherfucking seed capsules down someone's shirt and expect
> to have no >> consequences.
> >
> > If only it were my shirt. As I leaned forward to get under the
> > branches, my jeans gapped and one or two seed capsules went down the
> > back of my pants. It happened more than once, and finally I just
> > wouldn't tolerate it anymore.
>
> Not good.

Yeah. It's gumball trees here.

Ed P wrote:

> On 3/6/2024 6:06 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > > On 3/6/2024 9:01 AM, micky wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 04 Mar 2024 17:46:14 -0500, micky
> > > > > <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Have you noticed that when you drive on the highway in the
> > > > summer, there used to be lots of bugs squashed against the
> > > > windshield, but that doesnt' happen anymore? I think it's
> > > > observable that the insect population is dropping.
> > >
> > >
> > > They moved most of the insects to government supplied nesting in
> > > the national parks. Part of Biden's migration plan.
> >
> > Lol Ed!
>
>
> After posting this, coincidently I did see something about it. Seems
> we are destroying the insect habitat with more farming, more housing,
> using more insecticides. Micky was correct, the other article
> mentioned windshield cleaning, or lack of now. .

Virginia never had much trouble with that but I did notice few
fireflies at dusk now. They say the mosquito mists the city uses on
uses on us are the cause. You can't opt out of it.

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 7 Mar 2024 15:45:00 -0500, ? Mighty Wannabe
? <@.> wrote:
>
>> That was 67 years ago, and the tree was maybe 30 years old then, and the
>> tree still looks great. I know oak trees live a long time anyhow, but
>> at least the ditch didn't hurt it. It's almost 4 feet in diameter.
>
>The doughnut hole might facilitate water getting into the soil to water
>the roots of the old oak tree. A lawn covered by grass and thatch would
>prevent water from penetrating deep into the soil, unless you frequently
>aerate and dethatch the lawn.

Maybe. It was city grass, not very thick and no thatch afaicr,
especially under the tree, mowable with a push non-power lawnmower, but
yours is the first suggested explanation I've gotten.
>
>> When I was there 30 years ago the hole looked pretty much the same as 36
>> years earlier, except the lip was curled down an inch or two. And last
>> summer the hole was still there, looked almost the same. I thought it
>> might be filled in by the wind or something but it was only an inch or
>> two less deep than it had been. And the tree is doing so well that the
>> owner spent 2500 dollars to prune it. It covers half the house and all
>> of the front yard (and before it was pruned it obscured the whole 2nd
>> floor from the street, and may have covered the whole house).
>>
>> https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0195541,-80.3414499,3a,75y,355.01h,109.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2xim3XWD1gwHaY_MBnEmzw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu
>>
>> https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0196832,-80.3415477,46m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&entry=ttu
>
>How many hundred pounds of acorns did you get every year when you live
>there?

I don't remember many acorns. Maybe after the first 10 I lost
interestx, since they are all pretty much the same. We must have loads
but I don't remember.

I went on a survival hike near Tuxedo NY when I lived in Brooklyn. We
were only allowed to bring 5 things, a hook, a line, a sierra cup, and I
forget the other two things. Probably matches was one.

They were going to show us how to survive in the woods. One of the
foods was cooked acorns. Apparently they are pretty cood. But you have
to simmer the pot for iirc 12 hours, and you need to gather wood and
water for allthat boiling. Seemed pretty impractical.

We also caught fish. Some people hadn't bothered to bring a hook or
line so they said we could catch the fish but they could iirc bait the
hook and take the fish off the hook. Some people bawked at that, saying
they could go 2 days without eating. Sure, so can I, but the ideas was
to be able to go weeks in the woods.

I caught one. I think they were all sunfish, and you could cook them
whole and the scales popped off by themselves in the fire. Then you
could eat them whole, like popcorn. Much better than the acorns we never
made.

In alt.home.repair, on 07 Mar 2024 21:50:17 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2024-03-07, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>
>> Townhouss here sell fairly fast. But I can afford to be buried even
>> before the house sells, so it's not my problem.
>
>It's not my mother's problem, either. It's mine. She'll be
>cremated and landfilled before the estate clears probate.

I have a friend who I wanted to be my executor. She's very competent
but never made much money, and she can use the money for what I think
won't be that much work. That is, the hourly return based on normal
executor's fees will a lot be higher than her current job. 2, 3, 4 r 5x
as much. But I don't really know so I can't promise her that, and
she's afraid it will be too much work, because of the house. Then I get
afraid she'll cut corners and not try enough to give that part of my
stuff that can be useful to the specific people who can use it. I"m
afraid she'll call one or zero ebay guys and the flipper will call one
trash guy who will, on his own, sell a few things but not most, and that
will the end of a lot of good stuff.

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 07 Mar 2024 15:15:41 -0600, Jim Joyce
<none@none.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 14:23:56 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>
>>Townhouss here sell fairly fast. But I can afford to be buried even
>>before the house sells, so it's not my problem.
>
>Have you checked into being buried in your convertible, with the top down, of
>course?

If the car is still running, that would be a waste of a good car. I get
"upset" when they wreck cars in the movies. Plus I'd have to buy 4,
maybe 6 plots.

In alt.home.repair, on 07 Mar 2024 21:48:46 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2024-03-07, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:10:16 -0500, Ed P
>><esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>>On 3/6/2024 5:05 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On 2024-03-06, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> In article <65e8b5d0$0$2077922$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>> hamilton@invalid.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think flippers are pretty easy to find.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only if they think they can make money. It's a crappy two-bedroom
>>>>>> house on a crawlspace. Still, I considered I might simply cease to
>>>>>> pay the property taxes and make it the county's problem. If I'm
>>>>>> willing to do that, I'm also willing to let it go for bottom
>>>>>> dollar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Depencing on where the house is, the land may be worth more than the
>>>>> house.
>>>>
>>>> In a crappy downmarket Detroit suburb. The lot isn't even wide
>>>> enough for a driveway next to the house (as is customary with all
>>>> other lots in the neighborhood).
>>>>
>>>>> It may be better to flip it yourself.
>>>>
>>>> No. No. No. I'm done killing myself with big projects. It
>>
>> I don't blame you. Just tthe thought of having to search for and call
>> more than one number to find a willing flipper wears me out.
>
>"Flip it myself" means I do all the damned work, not sell it to
>a flipper.

I got that. I'm saying that even calling to find a flipper is too much
for me, let alone doing it myself.

Jim Joyce wrote on 3/7/2024 4:15 PM:
> On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 14:23:56 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>
>> Townhouss here sell fairly fast. But I can afford to be buried even
>> before the house sells, so it's not my problem.
> Have you checked into being buried in your convertible, with the top down, of
> course?
>

Then mud and water will ruin the upholstery in the convertible. I
suggest the top up, plus a corrugated galvanized steel panel bent into a
semicircle to form a tunnel-style garage before filling the hole with
dirt, to protect Mickey and his convertible for eternity.

micky wrote on 3/7/2024 5:53 PM:
> In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 7 Mar 2024 15:45:00 -0500, ? Mighty Wannabe
> ? <@.> wrote:
>>> That was 67 years ago, and the tree was maybe 30 years old then, and the
>>> tree still looks great. I know oak trees live a long time anyhow, but
>>> at least the ditch didn't hurt it. It's almost 4 feet in diameter.
>> The doughnut hole might facilitate water getting into the soil to water
>> the roots of the old oak tree. A lawn covered by grass and thatch would
>> prevent water from penetrating deep into the soil, unless you frequently
>> aerate and dethatch the lawn.
> Maybe. It was city grass, not very thick and no thatch afaicr,
> especially under the tree, mowable with a push non-power lawnmower, but
> yours is the first suggested explanation I've gotten.
>>> When I was there 30 years ago the hole looked pretty much the same as 36
>>> years earlier, except the lip was curled down an inch or two. And last
>>> summer the hole was still there, looked almost the same. I thought it
>>> might be filled in by the wind or something but it was only an inch or
>>> two less deep than it had been. And the tree is doing so well that the
>>> owner spent 2500 dollars to prune it. It covers half the house and all
>>> of the front yard (and before it was pruned it obscured the whole 2nd
>>> floor from the street, and may have covered the whole house).
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0195541,-80.3414499,3a,75y,355.01h,109.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2xim3XWD1gwHaY_MBnEmzw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0196832,-80.3415477,46m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&entry=ttu
>> How many hundred pounds of acorns did you get every year when you live
>> there?
> I don't remember many acorns. Maybe after the first 10 I lost
> interestx, since they are all pretty much the same. We must have loads
> but I don't remember.
>
> I went on a survival hike near Tuxedo NY when I lived in Brooklyn. We
> were only allowed to bring 5 things, a hook, a line, a sierra cup, and I
> forget the other two things. Probably matches was one.
>
> They were going to show us how to survive in the woods. One of the
> foods was cooked acorns. Apparently they are pretty cood. But you have
> to simmer the pot for iirc 12 hours, and you need to gather wood and
> water for allthat boiling. Seemed pretty impractical.
>
> We also caught fish. Some people hadn't bothered to bring a hook or
> line so they said we could catch the fish but they could iirc bait the
> hook and take the fish off the hook. Some people bawked at that, saying
> they could go 2 days without eating. Sure, so can I, but the ideas was
> to be able to go weeks in the woods.
>
> I caught one. I think they were all sunfish, and you could cook them
> whole and the scales popped off by themselves in the fire. Then you
> could eat them whole, like popcorn. Much better than the acorns we never
> made.

I don't know if you really have eaten sunfish before. Sunfish has plenty
of tiny bones throughout the meat. That means you cannot fillet a
sunfish due to the fine bones in the meat. You have to use a fork to
pick the meat off from the fine bones in order to eat it. If you swallow
the sunfish whole, the fine bones in the sunfish's meat (and the main
skeletal bone) will puncture your guts.

On 3/7/2024 2:44 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
> Frank wrote on 3/7/2024 11:56 AM:
>> On 3/7/2024 6:08 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-07, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>> On 06 Mar 2024 18:28:32 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We had a buckeye tree when we bought the house.  I had my husband chop
>>>>> it down after those spiny motherfucking seed capsules went down my
>>>>> back
>>>>> while I was mowing.
>>>>
>>>> Those are different from horse chestnuts? They're are sort of spiny
>>>> but I
>>>> don't know how you'd get one down your back.
>>>
>>> Picture sitting on a lawn tractor, mowing underneath it.
>>>
>>
>> I have Chinese chestnut trees and the spiny husks are probably the
>> size of your fist.  You must wear some pretty lose clothes.  I have
>> been whacked on the head a couple of times with chestnuts but not spines.
>>
>> Sorry I ever planted these trees as I used to be deluged with chestnut
>> and trees are down hill.  Now that they are old they do not yield as
>> much and I have to fight deer and squirrels to get any.
>
>
> More likely you haven't fertilizer the soil. When the tree was young, it
> was spreading its roots to new soil. After a while the nutrients in the
> soil covered by the roots would be depleted. You should by some of these
> "fruit tree fertilizer spikes" and follow the instructions.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Jobes-Fertilizer-Shrubs-Spikes-Ounces/dp/B09YQ8W4PX
>
>
>

Had thought about it and might give it a try. Did not know these spikes
were available. I used to apply fertilizer to my back yard but gave it
up a few years ago.

Frank wrote on 3/7/2024 7:03 PM:
> On 3/7/2024 2:44 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
>> Frank wrote on 3/7/2024 11:56 AM:
>>> On 3/7/2024 6:08 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On 2024-03-07, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 06 Mar 2024 18:28:32 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We had a buckeye tree when we bought the house.  I had my husband
>>>>>> chop
>>>>>> it down after those spiny motherfucking seed capsules went down
>>>>>> my back
>>>>>> while I was mowing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Those are different from horse chestnuts? They're are sort of
>>>>> spiny but I
>>>>> don't know how you'd get one down your back.
>>>>
>>>> Picture sitting on a lawn tractor, mowing underneath it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have Chinese chestnut trees and the spiny husks are probably the
>>> size of your fist.  You must wear some pretty lose clothes.  I have
>>> been whacked on the head a couple of times with chestnuts but not
>>> spines.
>>>
>>> Sorry I ever planted these trees as I used to be deluged with
>>> chestnut and trees are down hill.  Now that they are old they do not
>>> yield as much and I have to fight deer and squirrels to get any.
>>
>>
>> More likely you haven't fertilizer the soil. When the tree was young,
>> it was spreading its roots to new soil. After a while the nutrients
>> in the soil covered by the roots would be depleted. You should buy
>> some of these "fruit tree fertilizer spikes" and follow the
>> instructions.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Jobes-Fertilizer-Shrubs-Spikes-Ounces/dp/B09YQ8W4PX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Had thought about it and might give it a try.  Did not know these
> spikes were available.  I used to apply fertilizer to my back yard but
> gave it up a few years ago.

These fertilizer spike are thick and heavy. They are slow-release types.
You hammer them into the soil. Normally it is recommended to place the
spikes at the drip-line (outer circumference of the tree canopy). It is
believe that the root system underground reaches the same distance as
the leaf canopy above. It is also believe that the tip of a root is the
youngest and most efficient in taking up nutrients. The roots at the
drip-line are the tips of the youngest roots.

micky wrote on 3/7/2024 5:53 PM:
>> The doughnut hole might facilitate water getting into the soil to water
>> the roots of the old oak tree. A lawn covered by grass and thatch would
>> prevent water from penetrating deep into the soil, unless you frequently
>> aerate and dethatch the lawn.
> Maybe. It was city grass, not very thick and no thatch afaicr,

Thatch is formed by grass clippings and moss. There is no moss if you
don't live in a rainy place, but definitely there will be grass
clippings. If you use a dethatching claw you will find out that you have
more thatch than grass in your lawn.

You can use a garden leaf rake as a dethatcher:

https://www.amazon.com/Walensee-Adjustable-Folding-Expandable-Expanding/dp/B09ZPCKQX5

> especially under the tree, mowable with a push non-power lawnmower, but
> yours is the first suggested explanation I've gotten.

On 3/7/2024 7:37 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
> Frank wrote on 3/7/2024 7:03 PM:
>> On 3/7/2024 2:44 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
>>> Frank wrote on 3/7/2024 11:56 AM:
>>>> On 3/7/2024 6:08 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-03-07, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 06 Mar 2024 18:28:32 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We had a buckeye tree when we bought the house.  I had my husband
>>>>>>> chop
>>>>>>> it down after those spiny motherfucking seed capsules went down
>>>>>>> my back
>>>>>>> while I was mowing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those are different from horse chestnuts? They're are sort of
>>>>>> spiny but I
>>>>>> don't know how you'd get one down your back.
>>>>>
>>>>> Picture sitting on a lawn tractor, mowing underneath it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have Chinese chestnut trees and the spiny husks are probably the
>>>> size of your fist.  You must wear some pretty lose clothes.  I have
>>>> been whacked on the head a couple of times with chestnuts but not
>>>> spines.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I ever planted these trees as I used to be deluged with
>>>> chestnut and trees are down hill.  Now that they are old they do not
>>>> yield as much and I have to fight deer and squirrels to get any.
>>>
>>>
>>> More likely you haven't fertilizer the soil. When the tree was young,
>>> it was spreading its roots to new soil. After a while the nutrients
>>> in the soil covered by the roots would be depleted. You should buy
>>> some of these "fruit tree fertilizer spikes" and follow the
>>> instructions.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Jobes-Fertilizer-Shrubs-Spikes-Ounces/dp/B09YQ8W4PX
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Had thought about it and might give it a try.  Did not know these
>> spikes were available.  I used to apply fertilizer to my back yard but
>> gave it up a few years ago.
>
>
> These fertilizer spike are thick and heavy. They are slow-release types.
> You hammer them into the soil. Normally it is recommended to place the
> spikes at the drip-line (outer circumference of the tree canopy). It is
> believe that the root system underground reaches the same distance as
> the leaf canopy above. It is also believe that the tip of a root is the
> youngest and most efficient in taking up nutrients. The roots at the
> drip-line are the tips of the youngest roots.
>
>
>

Looked into it and just ordered some with free shipping. Last year I
only got a couple of pounds of chestnuts for myself and a neighbor that
likes them.

On 3/7/2024 3:50 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Jim Joyce wrote:
>
>> On 06 Mar 2024 22:08:18 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-03-06, Jim Joyce <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 06 Mar 2024 18:28:32 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-03-06, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't mind the other changes but I "loved" the buckeye tree.
>> The >>>> buckeyes were beautiful and the tree grew over my sandbox.
>>>>>
>>>>> We had a buckeye tree when we bought the house. I had my
>>>>> husband chop it down after those spiny motherfucking seed
>>>>> capsules went down my back while I was mowing.
>>>>
>>>> A Navy vet, obviously. Thank you for your service. ;-)
>>>
>>> I'm afraid not. I thought about enlisting after my first year
>>> of college, and they would have loved to have me based on my test
>>> scores, but I was way too fat.
>>
>> It was a swearing joke, but I get it, thanks.
>
> Chuckle, we don't actually cuss as much as as the media would have you
> believe. Sure, a slight phase when junior but it fades. We *can* of
> course, and effectively.
>
>
>>>> As for the tree, I'd say it had it coming. You don't drop your
>> spiny >> motherfucking seed capsules down someone's shirt and expect
>> to have no >> consequences.
>>>
>>> If only it were my shirt. As I leaned forward to get under the
>>> branches, my jeans gapped and one or two seed capsules went down the
>>> back of my pants. It happened more than once, and finally I just
>>> wouldn't tolerate it anymore.
>>
>> Not good.
>
> Yeah. It's gumball trees here.
>

I've heard that sweet gum is used for furniture . Around here they're
considered a trash tree . Might get a few bucks for pallet wood if
there's a shortage of white oak . It ain't worth a damn for fire wood ,
it's a pure bitch to split , burns too fast , and leaves a lot of ash .
I've got a section of our property that's predominantly gumball trees
.... I'm thinking of cutting them all down and having the Mother of All
Bonfires .
--
Snag
"They may take our lives but
they'll never take our freedom."
William Wallace

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 7 Mar 2024 18:37:36 -0500, ? Mighty Wannabe
? <@.> wrote:

>micky wrote on 3/7/2024 5:53 PM:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 7 Mar 2024 15:45:00 -0500, ? Mighty Wannabe
>> ? <@.> wrote:
>>>> That was 67 years ago, and the tree was maybe 30 years old then, and the
>>>> tree still looks great. I know oak trees live a long time anyhow, but
>>>> at least the ditch didn't hurt it. It's almost 4 feet in diameter.
>>> The doughnut hole might facilitate water getting into the soil to water
>>> the roots of the old oak tree. A lawn covered by grass and thatch would
>>> prevent water from penetrating deep into the soil, unless you frequently
>>> aerate and dethatch the lawn.
>> Maybe. It was city grass, not very thick and no thatch afaicr,
>> especially under the tree, mowable with a push non-power lawnmower, but
>> yours is the first suggested explanation I've gotten.
>>>> When I was there 30 years ago the hole looked pretty much the same as 36
>>>> years earlier, except the lip was curled down an inch or two. And last
>>>> summer the hole was still there, looked almost the same. I thought it
>>>> might be filled in by the wind or something but it was only an inch or
>>>> two less deep than it had been. And the tree is doing so well that the
>>>> owner spent 2500 dollars to prune it. It covers half the house and all
>>>> of the front yard (and before it was pruned it obscured the whole 2nd
>>>> floor from the street, and may have covered the whole house).
>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0195541,-80.3414499,3a,75y,355.01h,109.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2xim3XWD1gwHaY_MBnEmzw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu
>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0196832,-80.3415477,46m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&entry=ttu
>>> How many hundred pounds of acorns did you get every year when you live
>>> there?
>> I don't remember many acorns. Maybe after the first 10 I lost
>> interestx, since they are all pretty much the same. We must have loads
>> but I don't remember.
>>
>> I went on a survival hike near Tuxedo NY when I lived in Brooklyn. We
>> were only allowed to bring 5 things, a hook, a line, a sierra cup, and I
>> forget the other two things. Probably matches was one.
>>
>> They were going to show us how to survive in the woods. One of the
>> foods was cooked acorns. Apparently they are pretty cood. But you have
>> to simmer the pot for iirc 12 hours, and you need to gather wood and
>> water for allthat boiling. Seemed pretty impractical.
>>
>> We also caught fish. Some people hadn't bothered to bring a hook or
>> line so they said we could catch the fish but they could iirc bait the
>> hook and take the fish off the hook. Some people bawked at that, saying
>> they could go 2 days without eating. Sure, so can I, but the ideas was
>> to be able to go weeks in the woods.
>>
>> I caught one. I think they were all sunfish, and you could cook them
>> whole and the scales popped off by themselves in the fire. Then you
>> could eat them whole, like popcorn. Much better than the acorns we never
>> made.
>
>I don't know if you really have eaten sunfish before. Sunfish has plenty
>of tiny bones throughout the meat. That means you cannot fillet a
>sunfish due to the fine bones in the meat. You have to use a fork to
>pick the meat off from the fine bones in order to eat it. If you swallow
>the sunfish whole, the fine bones in the sunfish's meat (and the main
>skeletal bone) will puncture your guts.
>
Well, they were about 2" long, 1-3", they looked like fish, and we ate
them whole. They lived in a lake in Harriman State Park near Tuxedo
Park NY (from where the word tuxedo comes). So what kind of fish do you
think they were? Possibilities follow:

Fish listed from Harriman Park: Largemouth Bass, Chain Pickerel,
panfish, perch.

The term panfish or pan-fish has been used to refer to a wide range of
edible freshwater and saltwater fish species that are small enough to
cook whole in one frying pan. One early-20th-century source identifies
all the following as panfish: yellow perch, candlefish, balaos, sand
launces, rock bass, bullheads, minnows, Rocky Mountain whitefish, sand
rollers, crappie, yellow bass, white bass, croaker and most of the
common small sunfishes such as bluegill and redear sunfish.[3]

Centrarchidae, better known as sunfishes, is a family of freshwater
ray-finned fish

The centrarchid family includes 34 identified extamt species.

So maybe they are not all so hard to eat whole?

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 7 Mar 2024 18:10:57 -0500, ? Mighty Wannabe
? <@.> wrote:

>Jim Joyce wrote on 3/7/2024 4:15 PM:
>> On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 14:23:56 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Townhouss here sell fairly fast. But I can afford to be buried even
>>> before the house sells, so it's not my problem.
>> Have you checked into being buried in your convertible, with the top down, of
>> course?
>>
>
>Then mud and water will ruin the upholstery in the convertible. I
>suggest the top up, plus a corrugated galvanized steel panel bent into a
>semicircle to form a tunnel-style garage before filling the hole with
>dirt, to protect Mickey and his convertible for eternity.
>
"From dust to dust". I don't want to be preserved.

I will consult with the mortician about preserving the car.

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 7 Mar 2024 20:08:26 -0500, ? Mighty Wannabe
? <@.> wrote:

>micky wrote on 3/7/2024 5:53 PM:
>>> The doughnut hole might facilitate water getting into the soil to water
>>> the roots of the old oak tree. A lawn covered by grass and thatch would
>>> prevent water from penetrating deep into the soil, unless you frequently
>>> aerate and dethatch the lawn.
>> Maybe. It was city grass, not very thick and no thatch afaicr,
>
>Thatch is formed by grass clippings and moss. There is no moss if you
>don't live in a rainy place, but definitely there will be grass
>clippings. If you use a dethatching claw you will find out that you have
>more thatch than grass in your lawn.
>
>You can use a garden leaf rake as a dethatcher:
>
>https://www.amazon.com/Walensee-Adjustable-Folding-Expandable-Expanding/dp/B09ZPCKQX5
>
>
>> especially under the tree, mowable with a push non-power lawnmower, but
>> yours is the first suggested explanation I've gotten.

When I have time, I'll go back to my old home in western Pa. and check
if my recollection is correct. I still think it is.

On 2024-03-07, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on 07 Mar 2024 21:50:17 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
><hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2024-03-07, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Townhouss here sell fairly fast. But I can afford to be buried even
>>> before the house sells, so it's not my problem.
>>
>>It's not my mother's problem, either. It's mine. She'll be
>>cremated and landfilled before the estate clears probate.
>
> I have a friend who I wanted to be my executor. She's very competent
> but never made much money, and she can use the money for what I think
> won't be that much work. That is, the hourly return based on normal
> executor's fees will a lot be higher than her current job. 2, 3, 4 r 5x
> as much. But I don't really know so I can't promise her that, and
> she's afraid it will be too much work, because of the house. Then I get
> afraid she'll cut corners and not try enough to give that part of my
> stuff that can be useful to the specific people who can use it. I"m
> afraid she'll call one or zero ebay guys and the flipper will call one
> trash guy who will, on his own, sell a few things but not most, and that
> will the end of a lot of good stuff.

I don't care what happens to my stuff when I'm gone. It's just stuff.
Eventually it'll be landfilled anyway. I don't have that much stuff.
Clothes, books, kitchen goods. My husband has a ton of tools; he's
told me who to contact to help me dispose of them knowledgeably.

My husband wants me to will our estate to his buddy. I find I'm
curiously reluctant to do so. He seems oddly adamant on the topic.
We just don't talk about it. Whoever dies first, the survivor will
do what he/she wants.

I don't really care what happens to my body. There's nobody to take
custody of the ashes if I have myself cremated, and I doubt I could
instruct my executor (whoever that ends up being) to put them in the
trash. Maybe one of those "green" burials.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-03-07, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on 07 Mar 2024 21:48:46 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
><hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2024-03-07, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>> In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:10:16 -0500, Ed P
>>><esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 3/6/2024 5:05 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-03-06, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>> In article <65e8b5d0$0$2077922$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>> hamilton@invalid.com says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think flippers are pretty easy to find.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only if they think they can make money. It's a crappy two-bedroom
>>>>>>> house on a crawlspace. Still, I considered I might simply cease to
>>>>>>> pay the property taxes and make it the county's problem. If I'm
>>>>>>> willing to do that, I'm also willing to let it go for bottom
>>>>>>> dollar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depencing on where the house is, the land may be worth more than the
>>>>>> house.
>>>>>
>>>>> In a crappy downmarket Detroit suburb. The lot isn't even wide
>>>>> enough for a driveway next to the house (as is customary with all
>>>>> other lots in the neighborhood).
>>>>>
>>>>>> It may be better to flip it yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> No. No. No. I'm done killing myself with big projects. It
>>>
>>> I don't blame you. Just tthe thought of having to search for and call
>>> more than one number to find a willing flipper wears me out.
>>
>>"Flip it myself" means I do all the damned work, not sell it to
>>a flipper.
>
> I got that. I'm saying that even calling to find a flipper is too much
> for me, let alone doing it myself.

I thought you were being sarcastic.

Do you have anyone else's estate to deal with?

--
Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-07, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>> In alt.home.repair, on 07 Mar 2024 21:48:46 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>> <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-03-07, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>> In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:10:16 -0500, Ed P
>>>> <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/6/2024 5:05 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-03-06, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <65e8b5d0$0$2077922$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>> hamilton@invalid.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think flippers are pretty easy to find.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Only if they think they can make money. It's a crappy two-bedroom
>>>>>>>> house on a crawlspace. Still, I considered I might simply cease to
>>>>>>>> pay the property taxes and make it the county's problem. If I'm
>>>>>>>> willing to do that, I'm also willing to let it go for bottom
>>>>>>>> dollar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Depencing on where the house is, the land may be worth more than the
>>>>>>> house.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a crappy downmarket Detroit suburb. The lot isn't even wide
>>>>>> enough for a driveway next to the house (as is customary with all
>>>>>> other lots in the neighborhood).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It may be better to flip it yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. No. No. I'm done killing myself with big projects. It
>>>>
>>>> I don't blame you. Just tthe thought of having to search for and call
>>>> more than one number to find a willing flipper wears me out.
>>>
>>> "Flip it myself" means I do all the damned work, not sell it to
>>> a flipper.
>>
>> I got that. I'm saying that even calling to find a flipper is too much
>> for me, let alone doing it myself.
>
> I thought you were being sarcastic.
>
> Do you have anyone else's estate to deal with?
>

As a wealthy elite Democrat you have an obligation to restore the home to its original condition and donate it to some of Gretchen's illegal invaders.
It takes a village, remember?

In alt.home.repair, on 08 Mar 2024 10:37:36 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2024-03-07, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>> In alt.home.repair, on 07 Mar 2024 21:48:46 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>><hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2024-03-07, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>> In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:10:16 -0500, Ed P
>>>><esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 3/6/2024 5:05 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-03-06, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <65e8b5d0$0$2077922$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>> hamilton@invalid.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think flippers are pretty easy to find.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Only if they think they can make money. It's a crappy two-bedroom
>>>>>>>> house on a crawlspace. Still, I considered I might simply cease to
>>>>>>>> pay the property taxes and make it the county's problem. If I'm
>>>>>>>> willing to do that, I'm also willing to let it go for bottom
>>>>>>>> dollar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Depencing on where the house is, the land may be worth more than the
>>>>>>> house.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a crappy downmarket Detroit suburb. The lot isn't even wide
>>>>>> enough for a driveway next to the house (as is customary with all
>>>>>> other lots in the neighborhood).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It may be better to flip it yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. No. No. I'm done killing myself with big projects. It
>>>>
>>>> I don't blame you. Just tthe thought of having to search for and call
>>>> more than one number to find a willing flipper wears me out.
>>>
>>>"Flip it myself" means I do all the damned work, not sell it to
>>>a flipper.
>>
>> I got that. I'm saying that even calling to find a flipper is too much
>> for me, let alone doing it myself.
>
>I thought you were being sarcastic.
>
>Do you have anyone else's estate to deal with?

My brother is 7 years older than I. If he goes first, I'm the executor.
I really should read the whole, long will and discuss with him anything
I don't understand, but I haven't.

micky wrote on 3/8/2024 1:23 PM:
> In alt.home.repair, on 08 Mar 2024 10:37:36 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
> <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-03-07, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>> In alt.home.repair, on 07 Mar 2024 21:48:46 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>>> <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-03-07, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>>> In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:10:16 -0500, Ed P
>>>>> <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/6/2024 5:05 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-03-06, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <65e8b5d0$0$2077922$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>>> hamilton@invalid.com says...
>>>>>>>>>> I think flippers are pretty easy to find.
>>>>>>>>> Only if they think they can make money. It's a crappy two-bedroom
>>>>>>>>> house on a crawlspace. Still, I considered I might simply cease to
>>>>>>>>> pay the property taxes and make it the county's problem. If I'm
>>>>>>>>> willing to do that, I'm also willing to let it go for bottom
>>>>>>>>> dollar.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Depencing on where the house is, the land may be worth more than the
>>>>>>>> house.
>>>>>>> In a crappy downmarket Detroit suburb. The lot isn't even wide
>>>>>>> enough for a driveway next to the house (as is customary with all
>>>>>>> other lots in the neighborhood).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It may be better to flip it yourself.
>>>>>>> No. No. No. I'm done killing myself with big projects. It
>>>>> I don't blame you. Just tthe thought of having to search for and call
>>>>> more than one number to find a willing flipper wears me out.
>>>> "Flip it myself" means I do all the damned work, not sell it to
>>>> a flipper.
>>> I got that. I'm saying that even calling to find a flipper is too much
>>> for me, let alone doing it myself.
>> I thought you were being sarcastic.
>>
>> Do you have anyone else's estate to deal with?
> My brother is 7 years older than I. If he goes first, I'm the executor.
> I really should read the whole, long will and discuss with him anything
> I don't understand, but I haven't.

You should never ride in the same vehicle, fly in the same flight, or
use the same elevator with your brother at the same time, just in case.

I heard the president and the vice president use similar prudent
precautions.