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* Does anybody know anyone in the rehab industry?bosodeniro@gmail.com
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|`- Does anybody know anyone in the rehab industry?OllieNorthie@aol.com
+* Does anybody know anyone in the rehab industry?Judith Latham
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Saw some of these homes and trailers with mostly guys led by tattooed group leaders and was wondering who pays for all this and is it legally binding to attend? And does anybody know somebody who works in this Binness and how big is the industry in general compared to say other social, clinical, and medical services?

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On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 2:02:21 AM UTC-7, bosodeniro@gmail.com wrote:
> Saw some of these homes and trailers with mostly guys led by tattooed group leaders and was wondering who pays for all this and is it legally binding to attend? And does anybody know somebody who works in this Binness and how big is the industry in general compared to say other social, clinical, and medical services?

This is what you should be talking about not dope, niggers, and nauseum all the time.

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On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 12:28:20 AM UTC-4, bosodeniro@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 2:02:21 AM UTC-7, bosod...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Saw some of these homes and trailers with mostly guys led by tattooed group leaders and was wondering who pays for all this and is it legally binding to attend? And does anybody know somebody who works in this Binness and how big is the industry in general compared to say other social, clinical, and medical services?
> This is what you should be talking about not dope, niggers, and nauseum all the time.

We do not talk much about dope.

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 by: Judith Latham - Sat, 2 Oct 2021 03:38 UTC

On 9/29/2021 5:02 AM, bosodeniro@gmail.com wrote:
> Saw some of these homes and trailers with mostly guys led by tattooed group leaders and was wondering who pays for all this and is it legally binding to attend? And does anybody know somebody who works in this Binness and how big is the industry in general compared to say other social, clinical, and medical services?
>

My younger brother Schlomo was in a rehab for 18 months. In that time
they shaved all his hair off as punishment and made him wear some
ridiculous sign around his neck. This happened twice that I know about.
The bottom line is Schlomo is now 3 1/2 years sober and attending AA
meetings regularly. The director from Schlomo's facility died from a
heroin overdose, as did 3 of his staff. A more corrupt place never
existed, but somehow it worked for my brother and many, many others. One
will never get rich working for one of these places, but it's possible
if you're the #1 director.

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> Saw some of these homes and trailers with mostly guys led by tattooed group leaders and was wondering who pays for all this and is it legally binding to attend? And does anybody know somebody who works in this Binness and how big is the industry in general compared to say other social, clinical, and medical services?

It's huge and it's bogus, all of it. At first I thought you were talking about physical rehab. I am not dismissing that although there's probably a lot of bullshit there too. But the kind you're talking about, I'd say it's all bullshit. If someone comes away 'cured' it's because they were heading that way anyway. It's like taking a mild pain pill for a mild headache and it goes away in 20 minutes and you credit the pill but you don't know for sure - the headache might have gone away on its own. Tattooed group leaders, eh? Sounds more like an exorcism than rehab. Maybe they beat the addiction out of their customers.

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On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 5:46:58 PM UTC-7, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Saw some of these homes and trailers with mostly guys led by tattooed group leaders and was wondering who pays for all this and is it legally binding to attend? And does anybody know somebody who works in this Binness and how big is the industry in general compared to say other social, clinical, and medical services?
> It's huge and it's bogus, all of it. At first I thought you were talking about physical rehab. I am not dismissing that although there's probably a lot of bullshit there too. But the kind you're talking about, I'd say it's all bullshit. If someone comes away 'cured' it's because they were heading that way anyway. It's like taking a mild pain pill for a mild headache and it goes away in 20 minutes and you credit the pill but you don't know for sure - the headache might have gone away on its own. Tattooed group leaders, eh? Sounds more like an exorcism than rehab. Maybe they beat the addiction out of their customers.

I think tattoos like money are the fucking root of all evil, and women getting them at the rate they are is just beyond all fucking reason. I was on my bike the other day pedaling past a pretty big tattoo parlor and I stopped right in front of it and blocked the doorway and scowled at them like an old crazy Jew with an Uzi tucked away under his belt and they all stared back at me for an instant thinking another crazy asshole wants to kill us all cuz we're inking them all up and their fucking Daughters.

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 by: bosodeniro@gmail.com - Wed, 6 Oct 2021 09:13 UTC

On Wednesday, October 6, 2021 at 2:04:58 AM UTC-7, bosodeniro@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 5:46:58 PM UTC-7, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Saw some of these homes and trailers with mostly guys led by tattooed group leaders and was wondering who pays for all this and is it legally binding to attend? And does anybody know somebody who works in this Binness and how big is the industry in general compared to say other social, clinical, and medical services?
> > It's huge and it's bogus, all of it. At first I thought you were talking about physical rehab. I am not dismissing that although there's probably a lot of bullshit there too. But the kind you're talking about, I'd say it's all bullshit. If someone comes away 'cured' it's because they were heading that way anyway. It's like taking a mild pain pill for a mild headache and it goes away in 20 minutes and you credit the pill but you don't know for sure - the headache might have gone away on its own. Tattooed group leaders, eh? Sounds more like an exorcism than rehab. Maybe they beat the addiction out of their customers.
> I think tattoos like money are the fucking root of all evil, and women getting them at the rate they are is just beyond all fucking reason. I was on my bike the other day pedaling past a pretty big tattoo parlor and I stopped right in front of it and blocked the doorway and scowled at them like an old crazy Jew with an Uzi tucked away under his belt and they all stared back at me for an instant thinking another crazy asshole wants to kill us all cuz we're inking them all up and their fucking Daughters.

I think tattoos and rehab are BOTH the roots of all evil and the tattooed criminals and gangsters who run rehab centers and fleece all the fucking money out of poor families trying to save their fucking kids going into the sewers is the worst thing ever too. I can just see the headlines: "Whack Job goes postal in a shooting rampage trying to save dope addicts and their families in rehab from going Broke!"

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On Wednesday, October 6, 2021 at 2:13:50 AM UTC-7, bosodeniro@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 6, 2021 at 2:04:58 AM UTC-7, bosod...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 5:46:58 PM UTC-7, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Saw some of these homes and trailers with mostly guys led by tattooed group leaders and was wondering who pays for all this and is it legally binding to attend? And does anybody know somebody who works in this Binness and how big is the industry in general compared to say other social, clinical, and medical services?
> > > It's huge and it's bogus, all of it. At first I thought you were talking about physical rehab. I am not dismissing that although there's probably a lot of bullshit there too. But the kind you're talking about, I'd say it's all bullshit. If someone comes away 'cured' it's because they were heading that way anyway. It's like taking a mild pain pill for a mild headache and it goes away in 20 minutes and you credit the pill but you don't know for sure - the headache might have gone away on its own. Tattooed group leaders, eh? Sounds more like an exorcism than rehab. Maybe they beat the addiction out of their customers.
> > I think tattoos like money are the fucking root of all evil, and women getting them at the rate they are is just beyond all fucking reason. I was on my bike the other day pedaling past a pretty big tattoo parlor and I stopped right in front of it and blocked the doorway and scowled at them like an old crazy Jew with an Uzi tucked away under his belt and they all stared back at me for an instant thinking another crazy asshole wants to kill us all cuz we're inking them all up and their fucking Daughters.

> I think tattoos and rehab are BOTH the roots of all evil and the tattooed criminals and gangsters who run rehab centers and fleece all the fucking money out of poor families trying to save their fucking kids going into the sewers is the worst thing ever too. I can just see the headlines: "Whack Job goes postal in a shooting rampage trying to save dope addicts and their families in rehab from going Broke!"

And I can just see the tattoo artist telling a prospect that he can ink that crazy-ass rampage news story right into his arm and neck if he has the time and money and if that stupid Jew would just move out of the doorway and let him into the shop so he can get all fucking inked up — Tattoos, the most fucking unkosher thing you can do.

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Tattoo parlors were not legal in PA when I was a kid. So they had a certain outlaw label to them. Rarely did you see kids my age with tattoos. I wanted one. I wanted attention and was ready to do anything to get it, other than maybe murder or something that might result in a long prison term.

At the time the Lehigh County Fair was one of the largest on the east coast and came to Allentown once a year in September. I was 13 walking the midway when I noticed a tented tattoo parlor. I did not go to the fair with a tattoo in mind, didn't even know they had them. I went in. I wanted something tough, a skull or a sword, but they all cost too much - thank God looking back. He had some tattoos in my range but they were all mild. I decided to go with the rose. $7.00 He did it free hand. After he was done he asked what name I wanted below the stem of the rose. I told him I had no idea. "How about Mom?", he said. I said no. Then remembering my name was Tom I asked him to put that in. And it's still there to this day.

I wanted attention in school. I had been drawing fake tattoos and other forms of massagery on my arms for some time. The teacher saw my rolled up sleeve and the tat and ordered me to go to the restroom and wash it off.

"Sorry Teach, I can't do that?", I said with a snide attitude. This was a very small mind at work, my mind at that time - yet I am proud of the childishness of it, that I got the real tattoo just to be able to orchestrate the following sequence.

"Why? Why can't you do it?", she demand.

"I just can't, that's all", I said.

Again she demanded to know why at which time I raised my voice and turned to face the class and yelled, "Because it's real", rubbing it with my hand to prove it.

I got the attention I wanted. This was 61 years ago and it's still there. Within 3 days of getting that rose etched into my arm I wanted it removed. I even went back to the carnival the following year to see about having it done.

"Can't do it", said the carny tattooist, "but I can put something over it."

I went in to have my one and only tattoo removed and wound up buying another one - not over the original as he had suggested but on the other arm. I was and am an idiot. But I more than make up for it in other ways. In my 20s and beyond if I went to the shore or a swimming pool I'd find myself sometimes walking with my arms folded over each other to mask the tats. What an idiot. Again though - proud of it.

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A good many rehab people a able for life to successfully avoid the drugs they despise. They settle down. They find work. Usually as a rehab counselor. The guy stopped using drugs but went even deeper into the drug world. His local rehab center was losing business as drug use in that area was diminishing. He will have to find a rehab job in some other area further from home. Not good. Or he can maybe do everything in his power, along with the help of his fellow counselors, to bring drug use back to the area. Last time I spoke with my addict friend he told me he doesn't know how they're going to do it, but he and the other counselors have vowed not to give up even if they have to personally go out into the community and sell drugs to recruit new addicts to counsel.

Hold on to your jobs people!

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> And I can just see the tattoo artist telling a prospect that he can ink that crazy-ass rampage news story right into his arm and neck if he has the time and money and if that stupid Jew would just move out of the doorway and let him into the shop so he can get all fucking inked up — Tattoos, the most fucking unkosher thing you can do.

So are you somehow implying that Jews don't get tattoos? Or are you implying that because concentration camp Jews had tattoos they didn't ask for that anyone who does ask for one is an insensitive criminal or something? The same as you, I find tattoos repulsive. Small ones don't get in the way. But I know why people get them. Of course they don't all get them for exactly the same reason, but whatever their particular individual reason it comes under the umbrella (or the largest sideshow tent known to man), of "Hey, look at me", something everyone cries out at some point - even you Bozo. It is time for you to loosen up and become more liberal than you claim to be (in some areas), and, what is it, look at yourself in the mirror, or walk a mile in my shoes, or put the shoe on the other foot, or in this case the tattoo on the other arm. Tattoos remind me of people who parade around with boa constrictors or parrots on their shoulders. Some feel ugly. Some are ugly. It my case it was not ugliness, just insecurity - wanting attention. So in most cases people get tattoos for attention. And you - YOU are the sicko enabler who gives it to them.

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On Wednesday, October 6, 2021 at 4:28:39 PM UTC-7, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > And I can just see the tattoo artist telling a prospect that he can ink that crazy-ass rampage news story right into his arm and neck if he has the time and money and if that stupid Jew would just move out of the doorway and let him into the shop so he can get all fucking inked up — Tattoos, the most fucking unkosher thing you can do.
> So are you somehow implying that Jews don't get tattoos? Or are you implying that because concentration camp Jews had tattoos they didn't ask for that anyone who does ask for one is an insensitive criminal or something? The same as you, I find tattoos repulsive. Small ones don't get in the way. But I know why people get them. Of course they don't all get them for exactly the same reason, but whatever their particular individual reason it comes under the umbrella (or the largest sideshow tent known to man), of "Hey, look at me", something everyone cries out at some point - even you Bozo. It is time for you to loosen up and become more liberal than you claim to be (in some areas), and, what is it, look at yourself in the mirror, or walk a mile in my shoes, or put the shoe on the other foot, or in this case the tattoo on the other arm. Tattoos remind me of people who parade around with boa constrictors or parrots on their shoulders. Some feel ugly. Some are ugly.. It my case it was not ugliness, just insecurity - wanting attention. So in most cases people get tattoos for attention. And you - YOU are the sicko enabler who gives it to them.

Sure some Jews get all tatted up but then they prolly know about as much as you do about the issue — but w/o looking it up can figure out why tatts would be as forbidden and unkosher as you could possibly construe?

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> Sure some Jews get all tatted up but then they prolly know about as much as you do about the issue — but w/o looking it up can figure out why tatts would be as forbidden and unkosher as you could possibly construe?

If you're thinking what I think you're thinking you're wrong. Tattoos have long been vilified in our society. People with tats were looked on as possible trouble. I get it, guys in prison, young outcasts like me looking for attention, and so forth - these were usually the people getting tattoos. Also sailors and so forth. But as a rule they were rarely seen on women or young people. Some over centuries have looked upon intentional scarring of the flesh as disrespecting God's house. When I was in the reform school I played chicken with another kid with a lit cigaret burning between our forearms which we had placed side by side. The burn was bad. I went to the infirmary for it. Later I was "placed on line", a form of punishment where you have to stand for x about of days except for sleep time and to take a crap. Even to eat you had to stand. I got 3 days, not a long sentence. But I asked the Brother why. "I didn't hurt anybody, it's my own skin." The Brother said, "No, it is not your own skin, it is God's house."

God gave me 3 days on line....................... So tell me Bozo, am I correct in presuming your reasons for tat inappropriateness is related to camps in WW2 Germany?

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>> Sure some Jews get all tatted up but then they prolly know about as much as you do about the issue — but w/o looking it up can figure out why tatts would be as forbidden and unkosher as you could possibly construe?
>
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> If you're thinking what I think you're thinking you're wrong. Tattoos have long been vilified in our society. People with tats were looked on as possible trouble. I get it, guys in prison, young outcasts like me looking for attention, and so forth - these were usually the people getting tattoos. Also sailors and so forth. But as a rule they were rarely seen on women or young people. Some over centuries have looked upon intentional scarring of the flesh as disrespecting God's house. When I was in the reform school I played chicken with another kid with a lit cigaret burning between our forearms which we had placed side by side. The burn was bad. I went to the infirmary for it. Later I was "placed on line", a form of punishment where you have to stand for x about of days except for sleep time and to take a crap. Even to eat you had to stand. I got 3 days, not a long sentence. But I asked the Brother why. "I didn't hurt anybody, it's my own skin." The Brother said, "No, it is not your own skin, it is God's house."
>
> God gave me 3 days on line....................... So tell me Bozo, am I correct in presuming your reasons for tat inappropriateness is related to camps in WW2 Germany?
>

I remember once when we were kids, Shlomo got the beating of his young
life. A few relatives from the other side with numbers tattooed on their
arms were visiting. Shlomo told them that as survivors, those were their
lucky numbers and that they should play them in lotto. Papa took off his
belt.

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> I remember once when we were kids, Shlomo got the beating of his young
> life. A few relatives from the other side with numbers tattooed on their
> arms were visiting. Shlomo told them that as survivors, those were their
> lucky numbers and that they should play them in lotto. Papa took off his
> belt.

What you did not know at the time and maybe don't know even to this day is that Shlomo got the beating, not because he was trying to be funny about the number tats, but because Papa was afraid Shlomo's public blabbing might give away even to strangers his special numbers, the ones he's been playing for years in the lottery. "I am getting close with my numbers", Papa tells his friends, "I can feel it." His friends know he has a near 6th sense about gambling, that he's good with numbers, and that he is very intuitive and could well be on the verge of hitting the big one. Now they know his number - because of Shlomo's blabbing. Can you blame Papa for that? Turns out a week later Papa's lottery numbers came through. Problem is, he had not played the lottery that day, one of his 'friends' who stole the numbers the day Shlomo blabbed it. Can you imagine someone hitting the lottery and being physically challenged by someone who swears they use the same numbers but failed to play them on the day they won. "You owe me", he tells the winner. "Maybe not half, but something. You owe me something, don't you think?" And the answer comes back: "No, I do not think so", at which time a fight breaks out which turns into a melee leaving many injured and several dead.

In the aftermath of shalom

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On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 1:31:50 PM UTC-7, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I remember once when we were kids, Shlomo got the beating of his young
> > life. A few relatives from the other side with numbers tattooed on their
> > arms were visiting. Shlomo told them that as survivors, those were their
> > lucky numbers and that they should play them in lotto. Papa took off his
> > belt.
> What you did not know at the time and maybe don't know even to this day is that Shlomo got the beating, not because he was trying to be funny about the number tats, but because Papa was afraid Shlomo's public blabbing might give away even to strangers his special numbers, the ones he's been playing for years in the lottery. "I am getting close with my numbers", Papa tells his friends, "I can feel it." His friends know he has a near 6th sense about gambling, that he's good with numbers, and that he is very intuitive and could well be on the verge of hitting the big one. Now they know his number - because of Shlomo's blabbing. Can you blame Papa for that? Turns out a week later Papa's lottery numbers came through. Problem is, he had not played the lottery that day, one of his 'friends' who stole the numbers the day Shlomo blabbed it. Can you imagine someone hitting the lottery and being physically challenged by someone who swears they use the same numbers but failed to play them on the day they won. "You owe me", he tells the winner. "Maybe not half, but something. You owe me something, don't you think?" And the answer comes back: "No, I do not think so", at which time a fight breaks out which turns into a melee leaving many injured and several dead.
>
> In the aftermath of shalom

So many things to respond to here — well for starters you know more than I thought — and yes it's blasphemous and a shanda because as you aptly observed it's considered a scar and mutilation of the body — so congrats you know something I know — BFD eh?

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On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 8:39:00 PM UTC-7, Judith Latham wrote:
> On 9/29/2021 5:02 AM, bosod...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Saw some of these homes and trailers with mostly guys led by tattooed group leaders and was wondering who pays for all this and is it legally binding to attend? And does anybody know somebody who works in this Binness and how big is the industry in general compared to say other social, clinical, and medical services?
> >
> My younger brother Schlomo was in a rehab for 18 months. In that time
> they shaved all his hair off as punishment and made him wear some
> ridiculous sign around his neck. This happened twice that I know about.
> The bottom line is Schlomo is now 3 1/2 years sober and attending AA
> meetings regularly. The director from Schlomo's facility died from a
> heroin overdose, as did 3 of his staff. A more corrupt place never
> existed, but somehow it worked for my brother and many, many others. One
> will never get rich working for one of these places, but it's possible
> if you're the #1 director.

Jonesing for dope and overdosing in rehab must be a lot like having a hardon for hot-looking young pubescent girls, you just can't get outta your system without a blowjob or buying a hooker.

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On Wednesday, October 6, 2021 at 4:08:00 PM UTC-7, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> Tattoo parlors were not legal in PA when I was a kid. So they had a certain outlaw label to them. Rarely did you see kids my age with tattoos. I wanted one. I wanted attention and was ready to do anything to get it, other than maybe murder or something that might result in a long prison term.
>
> At the time the Lehigh County Fair was one of the largest on the east coast and came to Allentown once a year in September. I was 13 walking the midway when I noticed a tented tattoo parlor. I did not go to the fair with a tattoo in mind, didn't even know they had them. I went in. I wanted something tough, a skull or a sword, but they all cost too much - thank God looking back. He had some tattoos in my range but they were all mild. I decided to go with the rose. $7.00 He did it free hand. After he was done he asked what name I wanted below the stem of the rose. I told him I had no idea. "How about Mom?", he said. I said no. Then remembering my name was Tom I asked him to put that in. And it's still there to this day.
>

WTF!? Your name was "Tom"!? Hey how many other fucking names do you have?

Oh yeah Dick and Harry, right?

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> So many things to respond to here — well for starters you know more than I thought — and yes it's blasphemous and a shanda because as you aptly observed it's considered a scar and mutilation of the body — so congrats you know something I know — BFD eh?

Aside from all that, people get tats for the same reason guys walk around with pythons or parrots on their shoulders. But it can get addicting. To some anyway. It's like the old bumper stickers. Have you ever seen a car so covered in bumper stickers that you can't see an inch of the car? How did it happen? Well, there are some rare characters who start out wanting to sticker up their car because it gets them to traveling, picking up different stickers from all the states they roll through. But some start out with just one bumper sticker. And for a few days they love it. The attention. Sometimes a honking horn and a thumbs up from the driver. Cool. But then it gets old, the novelty wears off. But the sticker does not come off that easy. The only solution is to put a new one on top of it. After a while the sticker pile becomes too thick. Newer stickers are placed to the sides of the original. And then it becomes a project. "Nobody has to like what the stickers say", the proud project manager declared, "it's the pure mass of them that's the draw." So he keeps adding stickers wherever there are bald spots on the car until finally he has it covered all the way. He appears on a TV talk show where he tells the nation how he came to "tat' his entire car, how with him it started with just one and only one, and how the attempted replacement started him to adding more stickers to the car. Another bumper sticker enthusiast is on the show. He also give his story of how it all came down. "I was into it all the way from the start", he says, "committed, eager - stopping here and there state to state shouting, "Whoopee, there's another one", only to realize it's not good enough for my car - after all, I have my standards." Then he admits to the interviewer how difficult it was at times to reject stickers not up to his standards. "The desire to add just one more to the car was overwhelming", he said, "and often, even when I knew the sticker did not meet my standards I had to fight off the temptation to add it. I am proud of what I have accomplished. There is not one sticker on my car that I do not endorse. These stickers, they are my friends." Then he turns to the other guy and says, "But to you it was just a mistake, wasn't it? A mistake that turned into fun. You never put any real sacrifice into it, did you?" And before you know it the argument gets heated and security is called in, but not before one guy pulls a gun and "tats" the other guy's brains with the rat-a-tat-tat of his automatic repeating pistolero.

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> Jonesing for dope and overdosing in rehab must be a lot like having a hardon for hot-looking young pubescent girls, you just can't get outta your system without a blowjob or buying a hooker.

For many of these dopers their only way "back" to normalcy, having a job and a roof over their head, is to get a job. But doing what? Many wind up in the rehab industry, working as counselors. Many are pure scum. I know, I have met them. Predators too. I gave up on AA years ago. But just to prove to myself that I am an open minded guy capable of admitting he can wrong I recently attended an AA meeting and have become a full-time member. They told me I had to have a higher power. They wanted to know what it was? "What's your higher power?", they kept asking, at the same time repeating, "You can pick anything, anything you want." But I had no higher power. I do not believe in God. I tried the old, "I have no higher power, but I am the lower power" routine on them and they wouldn't go for it. They kept demanding to know who or what my higher power was. I felt rushed, pressured, wasn't able to think clearly - which may ultimately be a good thing, flying on intuition and instinct - and I just blabbed it out: "Bozo. Bozo is my higher power." To which they replied, "Who the fuck is Bozo?", to which I replied, "What fucking difference does it make who he is, he's my higher power, and if you don't want me calling him down on your ass I'd advise you to quit with all the question, NOW!"

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> WTF!? Your name was "Tom"!? Hey how many other fucking names do you have?
>
> Oh yeah Dick and Harry, right?

This last post of yours doesn't deserve a response, but I'm a nice guy and can't let it go. As any idiot knows, a person with the birth name of Thomas can be called Tom or Tommy or even Tom-0 if they live in Ireland. I have never used a fake name on any newsgroup. The closest I came to fake was Tommy Joe, which is also a derivative of my birth name. What's your real name, Bozo? Or were you born with the name?

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 by: Judith Latham - Sun, 17 Oct 2021 14:40 UTC

On 10/16/2021 7:15 PM, Thomas Joseph wrote:
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>> WTF!? Your name was "Tom"!? Hey how many other fucking names do you have?
>>
>> Oh yeah Dick and Harry, right?
>
>
> This last post of yours doesn't deserve a response, but I'm a nice guy and can't let it go. As any idiot knows, a person with the birth name of Thomas can be called Tom or Tommy or even Tom-0 if they live in Ireland. I have never used a fake name on any newsgroup. The closest I came to fake was Tommy Joe, which is also a derivative of my birth name. What's your real name, Bozo? Or were you born with the name?
>

Our boarder's name is Tom, and he is a real Bozo. I saw his birth
certificate and it reads 'Tomm', but we just call him 'Tom'.

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> Our boarder's name is Tom, and he is a real Bozo. I saw his birth
> certificate and it reads 'Tomm', but we just call him 'Tom'.

So your boarder's name is Tom and he's a real Bozo, what the fuck has that got to do with me? The equivalent would be me meeting up on the web with a woman named Judith and assuming she's fat on the basis of her name alone, as in, "Oh yeah, Judith - I know a woman named Judith - I know what they're like." Just call me TJ and be done with it. Or by God I'll tom-tom your ass into the pavement.

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On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 4:10:09 PM UTC-7, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Jonesing for dope and overdosing in rehab must be a lot like having a hardon for hot-looking young pubescent girls, you just can't get outta your system without a blowjob or buying a hooker.
> For many of these dopers their only way "back" to normalcy, having a job and a roof over their head, is to get a job. But doing what? Many wind up in the rehab industry, working as counselors. Many are pure scum. I know, I have met them. Predators too. I gave up on AA years ago. But just to prove to myself that I am an open minded guy capable of admitting he can wrong I recently attended an AA meeting and have become a full-time member. They told me I had to have a higher power. They wanted to know what it was? "What's your higher power?", they kept asking, at the same time repeating, "You can pick anything, anything you want." But I had no higher power. I do not believe in God. I tried the old, "I have no higher power, but I am the lower power" routine on them and they wouldn't go for it. They kept demanding to know who or what my higher power was. I felt rushed, pressured, wasn't able to think clearly - which may ultimately be a good thing, flying on intuition and instinct - and I just blabbed it out: "Bozo. Bozo is my higher power." To which they replied, "Who the fuck is Bozo?", to which I replied, "What fucking difference does it make who he is, he's my higher power, and if you don't want me calling him down on your ass I'd advise you to quit with all the question, NOW!"

I like it. "What's your damned higher power damn you" screamed the moderator of the dope and meth tattoo rehab group!

OT: I like old movie endings like in The Third Man.

PS: BTW, what's The Third Man About?

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 by: Judith Latham - Wed, 20 Oct 2021 16:47 UTC

On 10/16/2021 7:10 PM, Thomas Joseph wrote:
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>> Jonesing for dope and overdosing in rehab must be a lot like having a hardon for hot-looking young pubescent girls, you just can't get outta your system without a blowjob or buying a hooker.
>
> For many of these dopers their only way "back" to normalcy, having a job and a roof over their head, is to get a job. But doing what? Many wind up in the rehab industry, working as counselors. Many are pure scum. I know, I have met them. Predators too. I gave up on AA years ago. But just to prove to myself that I am an open minded guy capable of admitting he can wrong I recently attended an AA meeting and have become a full-time member. They told me I had to have a higher power. They wanted to know what it was? "What's your higher power?", they kept asking, at the same time repeating, "You can pick anything, anything you want." But I had no higher power. I do not believe in God. I tried the old, "I have no higher power, but I am the lower power" routine on them and they wouldn't go for it. They kept demanding to know who or what my higher power was. I felt rushed, pressured, wasn't able to think clearly - which may ultimately be a good thing, flying on intuition and instinct - and I just blabbed it out: "Bozo. Bozo is my higher power." To which they replied, "Who the fuck is Bozo?", to which I replied, "What fucking difference does it make who he is, he's my higher power, and if you don't want me calling him down on your ass I'd advise you to quit with all the question, NOW!"
>

According to Shlomo, who's an active member of AA, you can use Bozo as
your Higher Power, providing he is clean and sober. Can you attest to
the fact that Bozo is totally straight? If you have your doubts, you can
always convert.


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