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On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 6:39:49 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I am already being a lazy bastard. I can stay in bed for days too. I have no desire to do anything. A streetcar named Ollie....
> I'm riding your trolley. You have paid your dues, earned the right to do nothing - and now they expect you to feel guilty about it? Well, I got news for them. We are starting a new gang of retirees called "The Idle Ones" that will take shit from no one. We have earned the right to be as lazy as we want. We are "The Idle Ones." But if you make us mad you will soon find we can move pretty fast when we want to.
>
> Thomas Joseph - "Idle Ones" President and leader, southeast Carolina division, chapter 43, section 9.

I love doing nothing. Sure it is hard work but I am all about doing the hard thing when it means I can take it easy. Someday they will make a movie called "The Idle Ones." I hope Warren Oates is still available to be in it.. He is the greatest actor since Lloyd Nolan in my book.

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> I love doing nothing. Sure it is hard work but I am all about doing the hard thing when it means I can take it easy. Someday they will make a movie called "The Idle Ones." I hope Warren Oates is still available to be in it. He is the greatest actor since Lloyd Nolan in my book.

We don't need Warren. He doesn't work much anymore - could be dead for all I know (I'm going to check): Wow, am I ever behind the times. He died in 1984. I wonder what he looks like now. 37 years. That's a lot of rot. But he had a son. Didn't you know that? I'm sure we can get the kid for the role. He's older now, just the right age to play Warren's role in his prime. "The Idle Ones" are slow to react - to anything - but they refuse to let anyone push them around. They stick together. They have learned over the years how to defend themselves and to attack as well using ESP and group wishing to achieve success. They do not need to move. Not if there are enough of them. That is why the idle ones stick together and are rarely found alone. An active group of hostile energy comes their way on the wings of threat, they do not react by rising up and fighting back old school style, they merely give their attackers the evil eye, staring and concentrating with radiant invasive powers that laser beam their enemies to disintegration.

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On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 4:43:51 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I love doing nothing. Sure it is hard work but I am all about doing the hard thing when it means I can take it easy. Someday they will make a movie called "The Idle Ones." I hope Warren Oates is still available to be in it. He is the greatest actor since Lloyd Nolan in my book.
> We don't need Warren. He doesn't work much anymore - could be dead for all I know (I'm going to check): Wow, am I ever behind the times. He died in 1984. I wonder what he looks like now. 37 years. That's a lot of rot. But he had a son. Didn't you know that? I'm sure we can get the kid for the role.. He's older now, just the right age to play Warren's role in his prime. "The Idle Ones" are slow to react - to anything - but they refuse to let anyone push them around. They stick together. They have learned over the years how to defend themselves and to attack as well using ESP and group wishing to achieve success. They do not need to move. Not if there are enough of them. That is why the idle ones stick together and are rarely found alone. An active group of hostile energy comes their way on the wings of threat, they do not react by rising up and fighting back old school style, they merely give their attackers the evil eye, staring and concentrating with radiant invasive powers that laser beam their enemies to disintegration.

Thank God he had a son. Little Warren would be great. Perhaps the whole cast should be sons of dead actors. And if the son of the actors father is still alive well we will have to kill them. It is in the name of art so it will be ok.

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> Thank God he had a son. Little Warren would be great. Perhaps the whole cast should be sons of dead actors. And if the son of the actors father is still alive well we will have to kill them. It is in the name of art so it will be ok.

"Young Guns - 2021", coming soon to a theater near you. The sons of famous actors take on computer generated images of their fathers in gun and fist fights. Michael Douglas beating the crap out of Kirk. Then a younger punk comes along and says, "Why don't you try someone your own age, asshole?" Turns out the punk is Michael Douglas's kid. He is a real young gun. The young guns of the past are now put out to pasture - none of that free range shit around here. They are there waiting on the coming challenge from their offspring who in turn must face their own children in later battles, each new generation blowing the last out of the water in its quest for all time greatness.

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On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 9:38:06 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Thank God he had a son. Little Warren would be great. Perhaps the whole cast should be sons of dead actors. And if the son of the actors father is still alive well we will have to kill them. It is in the name of art so it will be ok.
> "Young Guns - 2021", coming soon to a theater near you. The sons of famous actors take on computer generated images of their fathers in gun and fist fights. Michael Douglas beating the crap out of Kirk. Then a younger punk comes along and says, "Why don't you try someone your own age, asshole?" Turns out the punk is Michael Douglas's kid. He is a real young gun. The young guns of the past are now put out to pasture - none of that free range shit around here. They are there waiting on the coming challenge from their offspring who in turn must face their own children in later battles, each new generation blowing the last out of the water in its quest for all time greatness.

Does Hollywood still make movies? Did COVID kill all the actors? I have not seen a new movie at the theater in years. Perhaps it is all CGI made in China.

Did Charlie Sheen have any kids? We need more Sheens. Or Estafezes. Or Tom Cruise kids even. Hanks has some kids. So many out there. Do they have to compete with each other? How do they sort them out?

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> Did Charlie Sheen have any kids? We need more Sheens. Or Estafezes. Or Tom Cruise kids even. Hanks has some kids. So many out there. Do they have to compete with each other? How do they sort them out?

Lots of new game shows on TV and almost all suck. Bad. The majority are celebrity versions of game shows from the past. Tonight I turned on the new Celebrity Match Game where male and female celebrities ask questions of 3 potential suitors before picking one for a date. The celebrities are all people I never heard of - mostly female and Negro. Total garbage show. Lots of noise. So in answer to your question, yes it looks like the celebs are getting even more desperate following many months of inactivity brought on by COVID. They are going to make up for it big time by appearing in movies and shows even worse than the ones they were in before the virus hit.

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On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 12:42:12 AM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Did Charlie Sheen have any kids? We need more Sheens. Or Estafezes. Or Tom Cruise kids even. Hanks has some kids. So many out there. Do they have to compete with each other? How do they sort them out?
> Lots of new game shows on TV and almost all suck. Bad. The majority are celebrity versions of game shows from the past. Tonight I turned on the new Celebrity Match Game where male and female celebrities ask questions of 3 potential suitors before picking one for a date. The celebrities are all people I never heard of - mostly female and Negro. Total garbage show. Lots of noise. So in answer to your question, yes it looks like the celebs are getting even more desperate following many months of inactivity brought on by COVID. They are going to make up for it big time by appearing in movies and shows even worse than the ones they were in before the virus hit.

I would not know any new up and comers. I am sticking with the down and outers. TV is dead. The cool kids are on tik tok I think.

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> I would not know any new up and comers. I am sticking with the down and outers. TV is dead. The cool kids are on tik tok I think.

I don't need entertainers on any level. There's enough good old stuff to last more than a life time without standing in line for the so-called future.. I don't know any of the new celebs either. I can tell you if they have any talent it's something I can't see. I am not joking when I say there's too many people working in the same fields. Very competitive. They need work. Game shows for money - I always liked them, especially if it took some brains or some kind of talent to win. But now it's always celebrity versions of old shows, new ones too. I always thought if there was any thrill to watching a game show for money it was the idea that some regular Joe or Jane could make a lot of money all at once and never have to work again. What's the thrill in watching a bunch of loud talentless mostly minority and female no-talents playing for charity? Not only playing for it but doing a commercial for it. That is the celebrity's job now. They were always whores of course, but now they'll not only do anything for the buck, they will kill each other to see who gets to do it first. The vast majority of celebs I see on current TV shows are people I never heard of and seem to have no discernible talent, which could be a talent in and of itself.

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On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 8:55:37 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I would not know any new up and comers. I am sticking with the down and outers. TV is dead. The cool kids are on tik tok I think.
> I don't need entertainers on any level. There's enough good old stuff to last more than a life time without standing in line for the so-called future. I don't know any of the new celebs either. I can tell you if they have any talent it's something I can't see. I am not joking when I say there's too many people working in the same fields. Very competitive. They need work. Game shows for money - I always liked them, especially if it took some brains or some kind of talent to win. But now it's always celebrity versions of old shows, new ones too. I always thought if there was any thrill to watching a game show for money it was the idea that some regular Joe or Jane could make a lot of money all at once and never have to work again. What's the thrill in watching a bunch of loud talentless mostly minority and female no-talents playing for charity? Not only playing for it but doing a commercial for it. That is the celebrity's job now. They were always whores of course, but now they'll not only do anything for the buck, they will kill each other to see who gets to do it first. The vast majority of celebs I see on current TV shows are people I never heard of and seem to have no discernible talent, which could be a talent in and of itself.

Like you point out most of todays actors are relatives of people already in the movie and tv business. Many are good actors but not interesting. And few character types anymore. Having had TV since a kid how much more can I take? I have had enough. I want to go beyond the movies and into the mind of the big creator. Someone like Spillburg or Tarrantino.

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> Like you point out most of todays actors are relatives of people already in the movie and tv business. Many are good actors but not interesting. And few character types anymore. Having had TV since a kid how much more can I take? I have had enough. I want to go beyond the movies and into the mind of the big creator. Someone like Spillburg or Tarrantino.

Now you're talking my language. Tarantino - a fucking cinema God. I've seen all his movies. If I missed one I deserve to die tonight. In the beginning I didn't think much of Quentin's work. But guys in the biz, guys who knew their stuff, told me not to give up on him. "He's great", they told me. "He's just young. Give him time to grow and you'll see the greatness." And sure enough the rest is history. But there are actors out there capable of being great directors if given the chance. Some are held back, operating under the shadow of their famous parent. Once they break free they show us time and again they are capable of anything. Emilio, Lou Diamond, Sean Penn - these guys are outstanding actors, geniuses at their craft - but believe me, if given a chance they could blow Spillburg and 'Tino out of the water. If only they were given a chance.

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On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 1:12:47 AM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Like you point out most of todays actors are relatives of people already in the movie and tv business. Many are good actors but not interesting. And few character types anymore. Having had TV since a kid how much more can I take? I have had enough. I want to go beyond the movies and into the mind of the big creator. Someone like Spillburg or Tarrantino.
> Now you're talking my language. Tarantino - a fucking cinema God. I've seen all his movies. If I missed one I deserve to die tonight. In the beginning I didn't think much of Quentin's work. But guys in the biz, guys who knew their stuff, told me not to give up on him. "He's great", they told me. "He's just young. Give him time to grow and you'll see the greatness." And sure enough the rest is history. But there are actors out there capable of being great directors if given the chance. Some are held back, operating under the shadow of their famous parent. Once they break free they show us time and again they are capable of anything. Emilio, Lou Diamond, Sean Penn - these guys are outstanding actors, geniuses at their craft - but believe me, if given a chance they could blow Spillburg and 'Tino out of the water. If only they were given a chance.

Don't directors have children? What happened to Cecil B Demils kids? Otto Preminger? Hitchcock? Come on man have some kids. Do it for the children.

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> Don't directors have children? What happened to Cecil B Demils kids? Otto Preminger? Hitchcock? Come on man have some kids. Do it for the children.

The grade of talent in entertainment is so low that director's children will soon be in the director's chair. At one time I saw certain professions as immune to nepotism. Some professions take real talent. I know nepotism knows no bounds but let's face it, it exists more in professions requiring little or no talent. Ok, maybe some talent, but the kind almost everybody has. Like auto racing, there's a lot of nepotism in that field. It's not easy doing what they do at such a high competitive level. Still, lots of people like to drive fast and would love to do what those guys are doing. But it's all locked up. Today for the movies we don't need director's children. Actor's children will do just fine. In fact today we don't need directors at all. We want to go full method. Improv all the way. No rules. No control.

Roll em!

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 by: OllieNorthie@aol.com - Thu, 17 Jun 2021 20:40 UTC

On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 12:17:32 AM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Don't directors have children? What happened to Cecil B Demils kids? Otto Preminger? Hitchcock? Come on man have some kids. Do it for the children..
> The grade of talent in entertainment is so low that director's children will soon be in the director's chair. At one time I saw certain professions as immune to nepotism. Some professions take real talent. I know nepotism knows no bounds but let's face it, it exists more in professions requiring little or no talent. Ok, maybe some talent, but the kind almost everybody has. Like auto racing, there's a lot of nepotism in that field. It's not easy doing what they do at such a high competitive level. Still, lots of people like to drive fast and would love to do what those guys are doing. But it's all locked up. Today for the movies we don't need director's children. Actor's children will do just fine. In fact today we don't need directors at all. We want to go full method. Improv all the way. No rules. No control.
>
> Roll em!

I don't know about racing. The few kids who I know raced never did as well.. Also driving fast is harder than it looks. I only drove fast a few times and no where need race car speeds. Going 200+ mph is nuts.

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> I don't know about racing. The few kids who I know raced never did as well. Also driving fast is harder than it looks. I only drove fast a few times and no where need race car speeds. Going 200+ mph is nuts.

It is nuts. I took one of my old cars over 100 once and that was enough for me. But I always had older cars. New cars can go fast but you don't always realize just how fast you're going because they're smoother. For safety's sake people should drive older rickety cars. Or have their new ones custom build to shake at a speed they don't want to go above. But it's true, take a look at race car driving. As nuts as it is, and not everybody can do it, it is one of the most nepotistic fields out there. I noticed this decades ago. I do not believe in the "It's in the blood" routine. Maybe with certain athletics, with both parents being top athletes or very large or strong. These 'talents' can be inherited. But I don't think smarts are inherited. I don't think skill is inherited. I don't care if every son and daughter of every famous person gets a free shot at fame and fortune - not at this stage of my life. I do believe the more actual talent or skill required for something the less likely it is to be inherited. Acting is number one when it comes to nepotism because just about anybody can do it.

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On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 10:13:07 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I don't know about racing. The few kids who I know raced never did as well. Also driving fast is harder than it looks. I only drove fast a few times and no where need race car speeds. Going 200+ mph is nuts.
> It is nuts. I took one of my old cars over 100 once and that was enough for me. But I always had older cars. New cars can go fast but you don't always realize just how fast you're going because they're smoother. For safety's sake people should drive older rickety cars. Or have their new ones custom build to shake at a speed they don't want to go above. But it's true, take a look at race car driving. As nuts as it is, and not everybody can do it, it is one of the most nepotistic fields out there. I noticed this decades ago. I do not believe in the "It's in the blood" routine. Maybe with certain athletics, with both parents being top athletes or very large or strong. These 'talents' can be inherited. But I don't think smarts are inherited. I don't think skill is inherited. I don't care if every son and daughter of every famous person gets a free shot at fame and fortune - not at this stage of my life. I do believe the more actual talent or skill required for something the less likely it is to be inherited. Acting is number one when it comes to nepotism because just about anybody can do it.

I can't think of any kid of a race car driver who did better than their parent. But it seems some actors do a lot better. Like Charlie Sheen. I rest my case.

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> I can't think of any kid of a race car driver who did better than their parent. But it seems some actors do a lot better. Like Charlie Sheen. I rest my case.

Your comments only further prove my point that it does not take talent to be a top race car driver. But some have come close to their parent's achievements, like Dale Earnhardt Jr. and others whose names I can't remember. It's all relative. I know nepotism exists everywhere and I mostly accept it.. I do not like it in fields that claim to require talent and skill or artistry. It is not jealousy. I don't care how much money they have and how well known they are, I just don't like hearing them called artists. Same goes for musicians. Even nobodies on talent shows are referred to as artist number one or artist number two or whatever. To be a real artist requires years of suffering even if it has to be on purpose. Take it from me, I know - because I am now and have always been "The Artiste".

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On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 9:56:11 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I can't think of any kid of a race car driver who did better than their parent. But it seems some actors do a lot better. Like Charlie Sheen. I rest my case.
> Your comments only further prove my point that it does not take talent to be a top race car driver. But some have come close to their parent's achievements, like Dale Earnhardt Jr. and others whose names I can't remember. It's all relative. I know nepotism exists everywhere and I mostly accept it. I do not like it in fields that claim to require talent and skill or artistry. It is not jealousy. I don't care how much money they have and how well known they are, I just don't like hearing them called artists. Same goes for musicians. Even nobodies on talent shows are referred to as artist number one or artist number two or whatever. To be a real artist requires years of suffering even if it has to be on purpose. Take it from me, I know - because I am now and have always been "The Artiste".

In this go go world we have no time for them to suffer. They must be exalted as fast as possible. It is us the audience who must suffer for them.

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> In this go go world we have no time for them to suffer. They must be exalted as fast as possible. It is us the audience who must suffer for them.

Instead of suffering for our art we suffer for our artists. Good idea. But we are looking for a few good men, not just any asshole who calls himself an artist. Do we have enough time for that? I know the world is speeded up and we've got to move quick, but let's never forget that haste makes waste. Slow it down just a little bit. I am with you all the way - great suggestion from you - it is our duty to suffer for our artists. But only if they are real artists. Our judgments will come quick. "No, he is not an artist", will be heard by most. Those who apply for artist status but can't cut it are killed instantly. Those who pass muster will be honored by our suffering.

Our tears of sorrow will fall on the canvas of life, for indeed we who suffer for our artists are the greatest artists of all.

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 by: OllieNorthie@aol.com - Sun, 20 Jun 2021 20:23 UTC

On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 2:35:22 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > In this go go world we have no time for them to suffer. They must be exalted as fast as possible. It is us the audience who must suffer for them.
> Instead of suffering for our art we suffer for our artists. Good idea. But we are looking for a few good men, not just any asshole who calls himself an artist. Do we have enough time for that? I know the world is speeded up and we've got to move quick, but let's never forget that haste makes waste.. Slow it down just a little bit. I am with you all the way - great suggestion from you - it is our duty to suffer for our artists. But only if they are real artists. Our judgments will come quick. "No, he is not an artist", will be heard by most. Those who apply for artist status but can't cut it are killed instantly. Those who pass muster will be honored by our suffering..
>
> Our tears of sorrow will fall on the canvas of life, for indeed we who suffer for our artists are the greatest artists of all.

He said he will sacrifice for his art. well he will. In fact he is the sacrifice.


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