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 by: JAB - Fri, 15 Mar 2024 02:26 UTC

James Webb telescope confirms there is something seriously wrong with
our understanding of the universe

https://www.livescience.com/space/cosmology/james-webb-telescope-confirms-there-is-something-seriously-wrong-with-our-understanding-of-the-universe

Yes, yes....

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JAB <here@is.invalid> writes:

> James Webb telescope confirms there is something seriously wrong with
> our understanding of the universe
>
> https://www.livescience.com/space/cosmology/james-webb-telescope-confirms-there-is-something-seriously-wrong-with-our-understanding-of-the-universe
>
> Yes, yes....

I'm going to read it. I hope they explain why do we know the universe
is expanding. I've never been able to understand how that is inferred.
Have you? Please explain.

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 by: JAB - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 15:49 UTC

On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:32:25 -0300, Johanne Fairchild
<jfairchild@tudado.org> wrote:

> I hope they explain why do we know the universe
>is expanding. I've never been able to understand how that is inferred.
>Have you? Please explain.

"The Doppler red-shift of light observed from distant stars and
galaxies gives evidence that the universe is expanding (moving away
from a central point)."

That said, I believe their reasoning is flawed....

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 by: Johanne Fairchild - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 22:57 UTC

JAB <here@is.invalid> writes:

> On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:32:25 -0300, Johanne Fairchild
> <jfairchild@tudado.org> wrote:
>
>> I hope they explain why do we know the universe
>>is expanding. I've never been able to understand how that is inferred.
>>Have you? Please explain.
>
> "The Doppler red-shift of light observed from distant stars and
> galaxies gives evidence that the universe is expanding (moving away
> from a central point)."

What is the central point? Us?

> That said, I believe their reasoning is flawed....

I'm all ears, although I'm I've no sophistication in the area.

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 by: JAB - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 01:48 UTC

On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 19:57:48 -0300, Johanne Fairchild
<jfairchild@tudado.org> wrote:

>What is the central point? Us?

There is no centre of the universe! According to the standard theories
of cosmology, the universe started with a "Big Bang" about 14 thousand
million years ago and has been expanding ever since. Yet there is no
centre to the expansion; it is the same everywhere.

https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/centre.html

>> That said, I believe their reasoning is flawed....

>I'm all ears, although I'm I've no sophistication in the area.

Related to Thermodynamics ...

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 by: Johanne Fairchild - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 16:59 UTC

JAB <here@is.invalid> writes:

> On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 19:57:48 -0300, Johanne Fairchild
> <jfairchild@tudado.org> wrote:
>
>>What is the central point? Us?
>
> There is no centre of the universe! According to the standard theories
> of cosmology, the universe started with a "Big Bang" about 14 thousand
> million years ago and has been expanding ever since. Yet there is no
> centre to the expansion; it is the same everywhere.

So why did you say central point?

> https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/centre.html

Thank you.

>>> That said, I believe their reasoning is flawed....
>
>>I'm all ears, although I'm I've no sophistication in the area.
>
> Related to Thermodynamics ...

The third law?

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 by: JAB - Sat, 23 Mar 2024 02:51 UTC

On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 13:59:00 -0300, Johanne Fairchild
<jfairchild@tudado.org> wrote:

>> Related to Thermodynamics ...
>
>The third law?

5th law of thermodynamics?

A central component of Thomas Kuhn's philosophy of measurement is what
he calls the fifth law of thermodynamics. According to this "law,"
there will always be discrepancies between experimental results and
scientists' prior expectations, whether those expectations arise from
theory or from other experimental data.

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