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Subject: Gnome
From: Retro Guy
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 11:14 UTC
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From: retro....@retrobbs.rocksolidbbs.com.remove-xkr-this (Retro Guy)
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Subject: Gnome
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I've been using Gnome 3 for a while now. I keep going back and forth between KDE and Gnome.

If KDE didn't have akonadi, which is a resource hog for me anyway, and constantly crashes, I'd still be using KDE.

I'm getting pretty frustrated with the removal of features in Gnome. I just tried to revert a change in gedit and can't find any way to do that. Quite irritating.

Retro Guy

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Subject: Re: Gnome
From: anon
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what is akonadi ? i have not touched kde since ~5 years since i always run cheap hardware.

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Subject: Re: Gnome
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anon Wrote in message:
what is akonadi ? i have not touched kde since ~5 years since i always run cheap hardware.

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It stores all your email and lots of other stuff. KDE programs
 just connect to it but it sucks
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Subject: Re: Gnome
From: Retro Guy
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I really like KDE. Much more than Gnome. I actually don't like Gnome much at all anymore.

The problem for me is Gnome appears pretty stable for me, while KDE (really just akonadi) cause nothing but trouble.

Gnome appears geared now just toward the tablet/phone market. Kind of silly on a desktop. Less and less features, severe lack of configurability, and very dubmed down.

I'll finally get sick of Gnome again and go back to KDE for a while. Might be pretty soon actually.

Retro Guy

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Subject: copying the windows approach, than
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the original linux approach was:

"do one thing only, but do it right"

whenever linux tries to copy windows, it leads to the same shitty results (like this registry like thing that comes with gnome).

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Subject: Re: Gnome
From: anon
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What I liked about KDE was the eyecandy and the fact that everything works more or less without any config work. What I always hated was the ressource consumption and later also that some settings were hidden/not accessible (the Windows syndrom again).
Nowadays I like the lightweight stuff (fluxbox and so on).

Posted on def4.i2p


Subject: Re: Gnome
From: Retro Guy
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Subject: Re: Gnome
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On 06/07/2018 12:52 PM, anon wrote:
What I liked about KDE was the eyecandy and the fact that everything works more or less without any config work. What I always hated was the ressource consumption and later also that some settings were hidden/not accessible (the Windows syndrom again).
Nowadays I like the lightweight stuff (fluxbox and so on).

Posted on def4.i2p

I agree on most you've said about KDE. It does seem that some config is hidden, but at least it's there, unlike Gnome, lol.
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Subject: Re: Gnome
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yeah, gnome has build that unholy registry file thing.   Posted on: def3.i2p


Subject: Re: Gnome
From: Retro Guy
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On 06/08/2018 03:33 PM, trw wrote:
yeah, gnome has build that unholy registry file thing. Posted on: def3.i2p

Just tried KDE again. That lasted all of about 20 minutes.

"Akonadi Baloo Indexer has crashed" over and over again. Can't keep the window off the screen.

Isn't indexing disabled? Why yes, it is. So why is it indexing? Just so it can crash? Can't even use the system with the constant window appearing.
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Subject: Re: Gnome
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what happens if you do apt-get remove akonadi or similar ?

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Subject: Re: Gnome
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i mean of course: can you just remove it, or does kde stop working then ?

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Subject: Re: Gnome
From: Retro Guy
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On 06/10/2018 06:20 AM, anon wrote:
i mean of course: can you just remove it, or does kde stop working then ?

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Akonadi is a "hard" dependency for KDE in Debian. Can't remove it without removing KDE. The most common advice I see is:

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So, in order to remove it, you have to either

The hard way: Compile KDE without Nepomuk. (Distros like Gentoo enable you to achieve this just by specifying build flags.)

The easy way: Disable Nepomuk and Akonadi completely. Nepomuk can be disabled by going to systemsettings>Desktop Search and unchecking "Enable Nepomuk Semantic Desktop" and systemsettings>Startup and Shutdown>Service Manager and unchecking "Nepomuk Search Module".
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which sounds great, but too bad the "easy" way does not disable Akonadi at all. Even the clock in KDE depends on Akonadi, and will start it every time you log in.

I'm sure I could figure it out at some point, but by the time I think I'm getting somewhere I'm so sick of it I just log out and back in using something else.

KDE and Gnome have one big problem in common. They both think they know better than the user what the user wants.
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Subject: Re: Gnome
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KDE and Gnome have one big problem in common. They both think
they know better than the user what the user wants.

I couldn't agree more here, which brings us back to the windows mindset, where everything is meant to block access for you (down to the fact that you cannot read wifi passwords already entered in windows and stuff like that). What do you really need from KDE ? The eyecandy part can be managed without, I believe. It has been a while since I tried.
But compiz should not depend on KDE, for instance.

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Subject: Re: Gnome
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on the other hand, you could also browse through the logs and fix whatever is making it crash. of course, it is somewhat stupid to have to do that, but if you want KDE badly, that's one way.

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Subject: Re: Gnome
From: Retro Guy
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  To: anon
On 06/10/2018 07:35 AM, anon wrote:
KDE and Gnome have one big problem in common. They both think
they know better than the user what the user wants.

I couldn't agree more here, which brings us back to the windows mindset, where everything is meant to block access for you (down to the fact that you cannot read wifi passwords already entered in windows and stuff like that). What do you really need from KDE ? The eyecandy part can be managed without, I believe. It has been a while since I tried.
But compiz should not depend on KDE, for instance.

Posted on def4.i2p

I don't use desktop effects so not worried about that. But I do video editing and the light desktops don't allow me to handle video well. Only Gnome and KDE provide me good video abilities.
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Subject: Deleting database
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On 06/10/2018 06:38 PM, Retro Guy wrote:
On 06/10/2018 07:35 AM, anon wrote:
KDE and Gnome have one big problem in common. They both think
they know better than the user what the user wants.

I couldn't agree more here, which brings us back to the windows mindset, where everything is meant to block access for you (down to the fact that you cannot read wifi passwords already entered in windows and stuff like that). What do you really need from KDE ? The eyecandy part can be managed without, I believe. It has been a while since I tried.
But compiz should not depend on KDE, for instance.

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I don't use desktop effects so not worried about that. But I do video editing and the light desktops don't allow me to handle video well. Only Gnome and KDE provide me good video abilities.

I've tried this before, but trying it again now. I've deleted the entire akonadi directory in .local/share. Let's see what happens this time.

Writing this in a KDE session...
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Subject: Re: Gnome
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anon wrote:

KDE and Gnome have one big problem in common. They both think
they know better than the user what the user wants.

I couldn't agree more here, which brings us back to the windows mindset,
where everything is meant to block access for you (down to the fact that you cannot read wifi passwords already entered in windows and stuff like that).
What do you really need from KDE ? The eyecandy part can be managed without,
I believe. It has been a while since I tried.
But compiz should not depend on KDE, for instance.

Posted on def4.i2p

Also, I generally like the apps (kwrite, konsole etc.) in KDE. I hate the Gnome apps.

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Subject: Re: Deleting database
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Subject: Re: Deleting database
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Retro Guy wrote:

On 06/10/2018 06:38 PM, Retro Guy wrote:
On 06/10/2018 07:35 AM, anon wrote:
KDE and Gnome have one big problem in common. They both think
they know better than the user what the user wants.

I couldn't agree more here, which brings us back to the windows mindset, where everything is meant to block access for you (down to the fact that you cannot read wifi passwords already entered in windows and stuff like that). What do you really need from KDE ? The eyecandy part can be managed without, I believe. It has been a while since I tried.
But compiz should not depend on KDE, for instance.

Posted on def4.i2p

I don't use desktop effects so not worried about that. But I do video editing and the light desktops don't allow me to handle video well. Only Gnome and KDE provide me good video abilities.

I've tried this before, but trying it again now. I've deleted the entire akonadi directory in .local/share. Let's see what happens this time.

Writing this in a KDE session...

Oh look at that. Akonadi just crashed.

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Subject: Re: Gnome
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anon wrote:

KDE and Gnome have one big problem in common. They both think
they know better than the user what the user wants.

I couldn't agree more here, which brings us back to the windows mindset,
where everything is meant to block access for you (down to the fact that you cannot read wifi passwords already entered in windows and stuff like that). This post on askubuntu is spot on:

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"There is no explicit “Enable/Disable” button any more. We would like to promote the use of searching and feel that Baloo should never get in the users way". Wow, talk about arrogance. Make it stop using up 100% of my CPU and bringing my computer to a grinding halt and I might think about using it. But this should still be the users' decision.
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Baloo is the Akonadi indexer, and it's what's crashing my Akonadi, it seems.

I did find ways that are supposed to disable it, but that doesn't work. Even uninstalling it (Baloo) doesn't keep it from crashing, lol). I unistalled it months ago and have rebooted several times, so no it's not just still running.

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Subject: Re: Deleting database
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Retro Guy wrote:

Retro Guy wrote:

On 06/10/2018 06:38 PM, Retro Guy wrote:
On 06/10/2018 07:35 AM, anon wrote:
KDE and Gnome have one big problem in common. They both think
they know better than the user what the user wants.

I couldn't agree more here, which brings us back to the windows mindset, where everything is meant to block access for you (down to the fact that you cannot read wifi passwords already entered in windows and stuff like that). What do you really need from KDE ? The eyecandy part can be managed without, I believe. It has been a while since I tried.
But compiz should not depend on KDE, for instance.

Posted on def4.i2p

I don't use desktop effects so not worried about that. But I do video editing and the light desktops don't allow me to handle video well. Only Gnome and KDE provide me good video abilities.

I've tried this before, but trying it again now. I've deleted the entire akonadi directory in .local/share. Let's see what happens this time.

Writing this in a KDE session...

Oh look at that. Akonadi just crashed.

Posted on RetroBBS

Removed all my accounts from Kmail and as of yet no crashes. Of course it's only been an hour or two. We'll see...

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Subject: Re: Deleting database
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But I do video editing and the light desktops don't allow me to handle video well.

Were there not special distros to handle that ? But they probably build on KDE as well, not sure...

Well, keep your fingers crossed...

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Subject: Re: Deleting database
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  To: Retro Guy
On 06/11/2018 04:56 AM, Retro Guy wrote:
Retro Guy wrote:

Retro Guy wrote:

On 06/10/2018 06:38 PM, Retro Guy wrote:
On 06/10/2018 07:35 AM, anon wrote:
KDE and Gnome have one big problem in common. They both think
they know better than the user what the user wants.

I couldn't agree more here, which brings us back to the windows mindset, where everything is meant to block access for you (down to the fact that you cannot read wifi passwords already entered in windows and stuff like that). What do you really need from KDE ? The eyecandy part can be managed without, I believe. It has been a while since I tried.
But compiz should not depend on KDE, for instance.

Posted on def4.i2p

I don't use desktop effects so not worried about that. But I do video editing and the light desktops don't allow me to handle video well. Only Gnome and KDE provide me good video abilities.

I've tried this before, but trying it again now. I've deleted the entire akonadi directory in .local/share. Let's see what happens this time.

Writing this in a KDE session...

Oh look at that. Akonadi just crashed.

Posted on RetroBBS

Removed all my accounts from Kmail and as of yet no crashes. Of course it's only been an hour or two. We'll see...

Posted on RetroBBS

26 hours later and KDE is still running (no Akonadi errors).
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Subject: Re: Deleting database (solved)
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Retro Guy wrote:

On 06/11/2018 04:56 AM, Retro Guy wrote:
Retro Guy wrote:

Retro Guy wrote:

On 06/10/2018 06:38 PM, Retro Guy wrote:
On 06/10/2018 07:35 AM, anon wrote:
KDE and Gnome have one big problem in common. They both think
they know better than the user what the user wants.

I couldn't agree more here, which brings us back to the windows mindset, where everything is meant to block access for you (down to the fact that you cannot read wifi passwords already entered in windows and stuff like that). What do you really need from KDE ? The eyecandy part can be managed without, I believe. It has been a while since I tried.
But compiz should not depend on KDE, for instance.

Posted on def4.i2p

I don't use desktop effects so not worried about that. But I do video editing and the light desktops don't allow me to handle video well. Only Gnome and KDE provide me good video abilities.

I've tried this before, but trying it again now. I've deleted the entire akonadi directory in .local/share. Let's see what happens this time.

Writing this in a KDE session...

Oh look at that. Akonadi just crashed.

Posted on RetroBBS

Removed all my accounts from Kmail and as of yet no crashes. Of course it's only been an hour or two. We'll see...

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26 hours later and KDE is still running (no Akonadi errors).

Still running. Seems the problem was it was choking on scanning all my email, which contains tons of mailing lists. Seems Akonadi can't handle a large amount of data.

Much prefer KDE over Gnome. I don't miss the mouse not "letting go" of windows when I just try to click over to them. In Gnome, do that and release the mouse, but then move the mouse and it drags the window all over the place. Very irritating.

Interesting that Thunderbird still does that in KDE as it's using Gnome (gtk) libs.

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lol, the same happened when i tried to use evolution for
several mailing lists with > 30k single messages. could
simply not thandle it.
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Guest wrote:

lol, the same happened when i tried to use evolution for
several mailing lists with > 30k single messages. could
simply not thandle it.
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Sad that email clients don't get much support anymore. I guess the assumption is we're all getting our email through the browser at gmail.com. I talk to people that don't know what an 'email client' is.

I remember the internet. I miss it. Lol.
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