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Subject: Honest Donald for a change?
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 by: ltlee1 - Mon, 11 Jul 2022 00:42 UTC

""Our border is in a state of brutal and violent anarchy as people totally unvetted and unchecked flow into our country by the millions. To put it simply, we are a nation in decline," Trump said. "We are a failing nation."

"We've never had anything like what's going on right now. Our country has been knocked to its knees, humiliated before the world. Yet we presume to lecture other people in other countries on their democracies. All the while, the streets are flowing with the blood of innocent crime victims, as we lecture others," the former president said."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-las-vegas-rally-biden-crime-presidential-run-failing-nation

He was brutally unsentimental about the US a nation in decline, a failing nation, knocked to its knee, humiliated. But yet continues lecture other countries on their democracies. Well, China was on his mind, at least momentarily, while he was ripping Biden apart.

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Subject: Re: Honest Donald for a change? ["we are a nation in decline",foxnews]
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 by: A. Filip - Mon, 11 Jul 2022 05:18 UTC

ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> ""Our border is in a state of brutal and violent anarchy as people
> totally unvetted and unchecked flow into our country by the
> millions. To put it simply, we are a nation in decline," Trump
> said. "We are a failing nation."
>
> "We've never had anything like what's going on right now. Our country
> has been knocked to its knees, humiliated before the world. Yet we
> presume to lecture other people in other countries on their
> democracies. All the while, the streets are flowing with the blood of
> innocent crime victims, as we lecture others," the former president
> said."
> https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-las-vegas-rally-biden-crime-presidential-run-failing-nation
>
> He was brutally unsentimental about the US a nation in decline, a
> failing nation, knocked to its knee, humiliated. But yet continues
> lecture other countries on their democracies. Well, China was on his
> mind, at least momentarily, while he was ripping Biden apart.

He does not overstate as part of his political campaign?

How many people in PRC dare to say PRC is in decline?
*Some* must think it. It may be merely a very small minority.

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 by: ltlee1 - Mon, 11 Jul 2022 10:31 UTC

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 1:18:16 AM UTC-4, A. Filip wrote:
> ltlee1 wrote:
> > ""Our border is in a state of brutal and violent anarchy as people
> > totally unvetted and unchecked flow into our country by the
> > millions. To put it simply, we are a nation in decline," Trump
> > said. "We are a failing nation."
> >
> > "We've never had anything like what's going on right now. Our country
> > has been knocked to its knees, humiliated before the world. Yet we
> > presume to lecture other people in other countries on their
> > democracies. All the while, the streets are flowing with the blood of
> > innocent crime victims, as we lecture others," the former president
> > said."
> > https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-las-vegas-rally-biden-crime-presidential-run-failing-nation
> >
> > He was brutally unsentimental about the US a nation in decline, a
> > failing nation, knocked to its knee, humiliated. But yet continues
> > lecture other countries on their democracies. Well, China was on his
> > mind, at least momentarily, while he was ripping Biden apart.
> He does not overstate as part of his political campaign?
>
> How many people in PRC dare to say PRC is in decline?
> *Some* must think it. It may be merely a very small minority.

Chinese in general accept a cyclical view of history. Officials warned about
亡國亡黨 (the death of the country and the death of the party) because of
corruption all the time. But a lot more during the end of Hu's leadership.
Less such talk with Xi which has evidently worked hard to clean up Chinese
officialdom.
>
> --
> A. Filip : Big (Tech) Brother is watching you.
> | The hatred of relatives is the most violent.
> | (Tacitus (c.55 - c.117))

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 by: bmoore - Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:43 UTC

On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 5:42:31 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
> ""Our border is in a state of brutal and violent anarchy as people totally unvetted and unchecked flow into our country by the millions. To put it simply, we are a nation in decline," Trump said. "We are a failing nation."
>
> "We've never had anything like what's going on right now. Our country has been knocked to its knees, humiliated before the world. Yet we presume to lecture other people in other countries on their democracies. All the while, the streets are flowing with the blood of innocent crime victims, as we lecture others," the former president said."
> https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-las-vegas-rally-biden-crime-presidential-run-failing-nation
>
> He was brutally unsentimental about the US a nation in decline, a failing nation, knocked to its knee, humiliated. But yet continues lecture other countries on their democracies. Well, China was on his mind, at least momentarily, while he was ripping Biden apart.

Trump (and his cohorts) is why the US is falling apart.

The PRC is not a democracy.

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 by: stoney - Mon, 11 Jul 2022 18:28 UTC

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 8:42:31 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> ""Our border is in a state of brutal and violent anarchy as people totally unvetted and unchecked flow into our country by the millions. To put it simply, we are a nation in decline," Trump said. "We are a failing nation."
>
> "We've never had anything like what's going on right now. Our country has been knocked to its knees, humiliated before the world. Yet we presume to lecture other people in other countries on their democracies. All the while, the streets are flowing with the blood of innocent crime victims, as we lecture others," the former president said."
> https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-las-vegas-rally-biden-crime-presidential-run-failing-nation
>
> He was brutally unsentimental about the US a nation in decline, a failing nation, knocked to its knee, humiliated. But yet continues lecture other countries on their democracies. Well, China was on his mind, at least momentarily, while he was ripping Biden apart.

Trump is a sly person with a ulterior motive to twist and turn and skirt around whenever his chance comes to change course of his verbal attacks. Freedom of speech destroys Americans by political people like him. This is because his words can move them.

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 by: bmoore - Mon, 11 Jul 2022 18:51 UTC

On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 10:18:16 PM UTC-7, A. Filip wrote:
> ltlee1 <ltl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > ""Our border is in a state of brutal and violent anarchy as people
> > totally unvetted and unchecked flow into our country by the
> > millions. To put it simply, we are a nation in decline," Trump
> > said. "We are a failing nation."
> >
> > "We've never had anything like what's going on right now. Our country
> > has been knocked to its knees, humiliated before the world. Yet we
> > presume to lecture other people in other countries on their
> > democracies. All the while, the streets are flowing with the blood of
> > innocent crime victims, as we lecture others," the former president
> > said."
> > https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-las-vegas-rally-biden-crime-presidential-run-failing-nation
> >
> > He was brutally unsentimental about the US a nation in decline, a
> > failing nation, knocked to its knee, humiliated. But yet continues
> > lecture other countries on their democracies. Well, China was on his
> > mind, at least momentarily, while he was ripping Biden apart.
> He does not overstate as part of his political campaign?

Right. Trump is campaigning.

> How many people in PRC dare to say PRC is in decline?
> *Some* must think it. It may be merely a very small minority.

Probably not a minority, but the PRC violently stifles criticism, so who knows?

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