On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 8:02:01 AM UTC+8, David P. wrote:
> Krasnodar Russia 4K. City, People, Sights
> 561,153 views, Dec 8, 2018, Time: 16:58
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI4m2biisLE
> ----------------
> Krasnodar is the economic center of southern Russia. For several years,
> Forbes magazine named Krasnodar the best city for business in Russia.
> The industrial sector of the city has more than 130 large and medium-
> sized enterprises. The main industries of Krasnodar:
> Agriculture and food industry: 42.8%
> Energy sector: 13.4%
> Fuel industry: 10.5%
> Machine construction: 9.4%
> Forestry and chemical industries: about 4%
>
> Krasnodar is a highly developed commercial area, and has the largest
> annual turnover in the Southern Federal District of Russia. Retail
> trade turnover in 2010 reached 290 billion rubles. Per capita,
> Krasnodar has the highest number of malls in Russia. Note that in
> the crisis year 2009 turnover of Krasnodar continued to grow, while
> most of the cities showed a negative trend in the sale of goods.
>
> Krasnodar has the lowest unemployment rate among the cities of the
> Southern Federal District at 0.3% of the total working-age population.
> In addition, Krasnodar holds the first place in terms of highest
> average salary – 21,742 rubles per capita.
>
> Tourism comprises a large part of Krasnodar's economy. There are
> over 80 hotels in Krasnodar. The Hilton Garden Inn, opened in 2013,
> is the first world-class hotel in the city.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnodar

What a nice sight of this southern city, Krasnodar. People tend to know the name of big city, but not this one. This one can be seen as one of many nice established cities in Russia. The picture shown is in summer. People wore casual clothes and not thick winter. Wonder what temperature was there.

When we can we travel abroad, and when touring the city by walking or in a tour bus or taking a public bus, we can see the streets and people and places even in distances clearly. We can sense and feel and consider the environment of that certain place is good or not. Me certainly think this place is a very good place to visit.

Looking at the scenes, one can see a nice blends of scenery of people, places, and nature. In the environment, we can see the clean surrounding is not only clean but orderly, tidy, and very neat, too. A lot of efforts is made by its people in keeping and maintaining them orderly, clean and tidy, and not having to depend on others to clean up littering.

Most people can be seen well behaved, too. Most people can be seen enjoying their good times. They are good naturedly; lived normally, and went about their daily work life balance. When we look at the surrounding people and streets alone, we can see a sense and smell a scent of safety, too. From the look of this well-developed place, it has the scent of peace and safety and tranquility, too.

The scene showed the weather is warm with sunshine. But wonder how this place is like when in winter?. But overall, this southern city in Russia is good place for a good visit.

stoney, <news:98c10d9d-1215-4625-b6a3-5782fe0ef9fan@googlegroups.com>

>> Krasnodar Russia 4K. City, People, Sights
>> 561,153 views, Dec 8, 2018, Time: 16:58
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI4m2biisLE

> What a nice sight of this southern city, Krasnodar. People tend to know the
> name of big city, but not this one. This one can be seen as one of many nice
> established cities in Russia. The picture shown is in summer. People wore
> casual clothes and not thick winter. Wonder what temperature was there.
>
> When we can we travel abroad, and when touring the city by walking or in a
> tour bus or taking a public bus, we can see the streets and people and
> places even in distances clearly. We can sense and feel and consider the
> environment of that certain place is good or not. Me certainly think this
> place is a very good place to visit.
>
> Looking at the scenes, one can see a nice blends of scenery of people,
> places, and nature. In the environment, we can see the clean surrounding is
> not only clean but orderly, tidy, and very neat, too. A lot of efforts is
> made by its people in keeping and maintaining them orderly, clean and tidy,
> and not having to depend on others to clean up littering.
>
> Most people can be seen well behaved, too. Most people can be seen enjoying
> their good times. They are good naturedly; lived normally, and went about
> their daily work life balance. When we look at the surrounding people and
> streets alone, we can see a sense and smell a scent of safety, too. From the
> look of this well-developed place, it has the scent of peace and safety and
> tranquility, too.
>
> The scene showed the weather is warm with sunshine. But wonder how this
> place is like when in winter?. But overall, this southern city in Russia is
> good place for a good visit.

Winter time <https://youtu.be/31xuOUeb3Ec>

Summer time <https://youtu.be/U8zk8NCHN7I>

Summer warm average +25C, winter cold average around zero. In winter
time, things look more gray and dull. Sometimes it's snowing, the snow
is soon melting, hence slush and slippery roads. Winter temperatures
are unstable there, it may be +10C yesterday and -5C tomorrow. Summer
peaks may be up to +40C in some days, winter peaks down to -15C.

The city is considered good for living (excluding those who can not
endure hot summer weather well). Since the early 2000s, its population
increased by 1.5 times, reaching million people by now. From the
tourist perspective it may be not so interesting. There's no ancient
facilities nor any interesting natural phenomena to watch. The city
was built in low-inhabited steppe since the 19th century. In cultural
sense, the place especially associated with the Cossack heritage.

The city looks pretty clean indeed, but there are some environmental
issues due to abundance of vehicles. Among other Russia's big cities
Krasnodar is within the top for the number of cars per capita. And the
steppe environment is more vulnerable to air pollution (in comparison
the forest zone).

What is common between the Krasnodar region and China is rice. There's
many waterlogged lands near rivers which have been adapted to serve as
rice plantations. Most of the Russia's domestic rice comes from there.

* * *

Some colorful characters closely related to Krasnodar

<https://youtu.be/NlVM9Ygg94s> prankster Vovan
<https://youtu.be/s7C8EbwFF38> oligarch Deripaska
<https://youtu.be/Dc6raBduoe8> RT.com editor in chief
<https://youtu.be/Tvl72FvicI4> Netrebko the opera singer
<https://youtu.be/7OLv6hvfWS4> Masha the punk singer

On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 11:25:40 AM UTC+8, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> stoney, <news:98c10d9d-1215-4625...@googlegroups.com>
> >> Krasnodar Russia 4K. City, People, Sights
> >> 561,153 views, Dec 8, 2018, Time: 16:58
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI4m2biisLE
> > What a nice sight of this southern city, Krasnodar. People tend to know the
> > name of big city, but not this one. This one can be seen as one of many nice
> > established cities in Russia. The picture shown is in summer. People wore
> > casual clothes and not thick winter. Wonder what temperature was there.
> >
> > When we can we travel abroad, and when touring the city by walking or in a
> > tour bus or taking a public bus, we can see the streets and people and
> > places even in distances clearly. We can sense and feel and consider the
> > environment of that certain place is good or not. Me certainly think this
> > place is a very good place to visit.
> >
> > Looking at the scenes, one can see a nice blends of scenery of people,
> > places, and nature. In the environment, we can see the clean surrounding is
> > not only clean but orderly, tidy, and very neat, too. A lot of efforts is
> > made by its people in keeping and maintaining them orderly, clean and tidy,
> > and not having to depend on others to clean up littering.
> >
> > Most people can be seen well behaved, too. Most people can be seen enjoying
> > their good times. They are good naturedly; lived normally, and went about
> > their daily work life balance. When we look at the surrounding people and
> > streets alone, we can see a sense and smell a scent of safety, too. From the
> > look of this well-developed place, it has the scent of peace and safety and
> > tranquility, too.
> >
> > The scene showed the weather is warm with sunshine. But wonder how this
> > place is like when in winter?. But overall, this southern city in Russia is
> > good place for a good visit.
> Winter time <https://youtu.be/31xuOUeb3Ec>
>
> Summer time <https://youtu.be/U8zk8NCHN7I>
>
> Summer warm average +25C, winter cold average around zero. In winter
> time, things look more gray and dull. Sometimes it's snowing, the snow
> is soon melting, hence slush and slippery roads. Winter temperatures
> are unstable there, it may be +10C yesterday and -5C tomorrow. Summer
> peaks may be up to +40C in some days, winter peaks down to -15C.
>
> The city is considered good for living (excluding those who can not
> endure hot summer weather well). Since the early 2000s, its population
> increased by 1.5 times, reaching million people by now. From the
> tourist perspective it may be not so interesting. There's no ancient
> facilities nor any interesting natural phenomena to watch. The city
> was built in low-inhabited steppe since the 19th century. In cultural
> sense, the place especially associated with the Cossack heritage.
>
> The city looks pretty clean indeed, but there are some environmental
> issues due to abundance of vehicles. Among other Russia's big cities
> Krasnodar is within the top for the number of cars per capita. And the
> steppe environment is more vulnerable to air pollution (in comparison
> the forest zone).
>
> What is common between the Krasnodar region and China is rice. There's
> many waterlogged lands near rivers which have been adapted to serve as
> rice plantations. Most of the Russia's domestic rice comes from there.
>
> * * *
>
> Some colorful characters closely related to Krasnodar
>
> <https://youtu.be/NlVM9Ygg94s> prankster Vovan
> <https://youtu.be/s7C8EbwFF38> oligarch Deripaska
> <https://youtu.be/Dc6raBduoe8> RT.com editor in chief
> <https://youtu.be/Tvl72FvicI4> Netrebko the opera singer
> <https://youtu.be/7OLv6hvfWS4> Masha the punk singer

Thanks for the introductions. Even with no ancient things to see and watch, but there are still things to see and watch from the perspectives of tourists. In all aspects of things to see while in travel, the perspective of safety and safeness are keys to any tourists. If their travel experience is safe and sound to them, even into the night, to them, they will feel there is already an attraction waiting on them to confidently experience more. The attraction should start with safety and safeness, and the rest of attractions will follow to them.

stoney, <news:9b1404d2-1dca-4843-b831-cfde9b4421ffn@googlegroups.com>
> On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 11:25:40 AM UTC+8, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>> stoney, <news:98c10d9d-1215-4625...@googlegroups.com>

>>>> Krasnodar Russia 4K. City, People, Sights
>>>> 561,153 views, Dec 8, 2018, Time: 16:58
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI4m2biisLE
>>>
>>> What a nice sight of this southern city, Krasnodar. People tend to know
>>> the name of big city, but not this one. This one can be seen as one of
>>> many nice established cities in Russia. The picture shown is in summer.
>>> People wore casual clothes and not thick winter. Wonder what temperature
>>> was there.
>>>
>>> When we can we travel abroad, and when touring the city by walking or in a
>>> tour bus or taking a public bus, we can see the streets and people and
>>> places even in distances clearly. We can sense and feel and consider the
>>> environment of that certain place is good or not. Me certainly think this
>>> place is a very good place to visit.
>>>
>>> Looking at the scenes, one can see a nice blends of scenery of people,
>>> places, and nature. In the environment, we can see the clean surrounding
>>> is not only clean but orderly, tidy, and very neat, too. A lot of efforts
>>> is made by its people in keeping and maintaining them orderly, clean and
>>> tidy, and not having to depend on others to clean up littering.
>>>
>>> Most people can be seen well behaved, too. Most people can be seen
>>> enjoying their good times. They are good naturedly; lived normally, and
>>> went about their daily work life balance. When we look at the surrounding
>>> people and streets alone, we can see a sense and smell a scent of safety,
>>> too. From the look of this well-developed place, it has the scent of peace
>>> and safety and tranquility, too.
>>>
>>> The scene showed the weather is warm with sunshine. But wonder how this
>>> place is like when in winter?. But overall, this southern city in Russia
>>> is good place for a good visit.
>>
>> Winter time <https://youtu.be/31xuOUeb3Ec>
>>
>> Summer time <https://youtu.be/U8zk8NCHN7I>
>>
>> Summer warm average +25C, winter cold average around zero. In winter
>> time, things look more gray and dull. Sometimes it's snowing, the snow
>> is soon melting, hence slush and slippery roads. Winter temperatures
>> are unstable there, it may be +10C yesterday and -5C tomorrow. Summer
>> peaks may be up to +40C in some days, winter peaks down to -15C.
>>
>> The city is considered good for living (excluding those who can not
>> endure hot summer weather well). Since the early 2000s, its population
>> increased by 1.5 times, reaching million people by now. From the
>> tourist perspective it may be not so interesting. There's no ancient
>> facilities nor any interesting natural phenomena to watch. The city
>> was built in low-inhabited steppe since the 19th century. In cultural
>> sense, the place especially associated with the Cossack heritage.
>>
>> The city looks pretty clean indeed, but there are some environmental
>> issues due to abundance of vehicles. Among other Russia's big cities
>> Krasnodar is within the top for the number of cars per capita. And the
>> steppe environment is more vulnerable to air pollution (in comparison
>> the forest zone).
>>
>> What is common between the Krasnodar region and China is rice. There's
>> many waterlogged lands near rivers which have been adapted to serve as
>> rice plantations. Most of the Russia's domestic rice comes from there.
>>
>> * * *
>>
>> Some colorful characters closely related to Krasnodar
>>
>> <https://youtu.be/NlVM9Ygg94s> prankster Vovan
>> <https://youtu.be/s7C8EbwFF38> oligarch Deripaska
>> <https://youtu.be/Dc6raBduoe8> RT.com editor in chief
>> <https://youtu.be/Tvl72FvicI4> Netrebko the opera singer
>> <https://youtu.be/7OLv6hvfWS4> Masha the punk singer
>
> Thanks for the introductions. Even with no ancient things to see and watch,
> but there are still things to see and watch from the perspectives of
> tourists. In all aspects of things to see while in travel, the perspective
> of safety and safeness are keys to any tourists. If their travel experience
> is safe and sound to them, even into the night, to them, they will feel
> there is already an attraction waiting on them to confidently experience
> more. The attraction should start with safety and safeness, and the rest of
> attractions will follow to them.

Russian cities usually do not have "ghettos" (such areas where poor,
disadvantaged or unsettled people are concentrated), and it's what
contributes to the sense of safety. Also, homeless, beggars, junkies
and crazy freaks are rare. Russia's crime situation is not extremely
perfect, but most of the imperfectness happens not in public spaces.

David P., <news:463b349b-614c-417b-b1b1-6bcbfcdbaab8n@googlegroups.com>
> Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>> Russian cities usually do not have "ghettos" (such areas where poor,
>> disadvantaged or unsettled people are concentrated), and it's what
>> contributes to the sense of safety. Also, homeless, beggars, junkies
>> and crazy freaks are rare. Russia's crime situation is not extremely
>> perfect, but most of the imperfectness happens not in public spaces.
>
> ------------------
> THE SOCIAL STIGMA OF HOMELESSNESS IN RUSSIA
> =========================================
> Like many social issues, the homelessness crises around the world
> has a multitude of underlying factors. To be homeless is not just
> about having no physical home. Being homeless is about economic,
> social, familial, poverty, mental health and community factors.

Anyone can visit Russia and see things firsthand (as well anyone can go
to Crimea and learn firsthand the sentiment of the locals). As an
alternative one can watch multiple non-edited amateur videos on YouTube.
Whereas the well-zombified Americans would prefer propaganda texts and
crafted/staged shows which would please their wishful thinking.

Watch true America here <https://youtu.be/2f4IR9hY_4U>

<https://tinyurl.com/drug-overdose-pindos>
<https://tinyurl.com/drug-overdose-europe>
America the leprosarium.

<https://youtu.be/zlLONPBNkA8> day life 160km north-west from Moscow

<https://youtu.be/d5g9-IrCGUM> night life 180km south-east from Moscow

On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 2:19:33 PM UTC+8, David P. wrote:
> Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> > Russian cities usually do not have "ghettos" (such areas where poor,
> > disadvantaged or unsettled people are concentrated), and it's what
> > contributes to the sense of safety. Also, homeless, beggars, junkies
> > and crazy freaks are rare. Russia's crime situation is not extremely
> > perfect, but most of the imperfectness happens not in public spaces.
> ------------------
> THE SOCIAL STIGMA OF HOMELESSNESS IN RUSSIA
> =========================================
> Like many social issues, the homelessness crises around the world
> has a multitude of underlying factors. To be homeless is not just
> about having no physical home. Being homeless is about economic,
> social, familial, poverty, mental health and community factors.
> Like many countries, homelessness in Russia has been perpetuated
> for decades by the historical stigma which has prevented transitional
> change since Russia’s move to a market economy.
>
> Historical Ties
> ---------------
> Homelessness in the Russian Federation dates back centuries, but
> the inception of its modern homelessness can be traced back to the
> fall of the Soviet Union in December of 1991. After this, the Russian
> Federation was formed and communism was replaced with a market economy.
> Five years after the transition, roughly 1.5 million of Russia’s
> 147.2 million population found themselves homeless.
>
> In communist Russia, vagrancy and begging were punished with a minimum
> two-year prison sentence so many homeless were classified as felons.
> In addition, the state government would aggravate the problem by
> revoking residency permits, so many felons would assume transient
> lifestyles after leaving prison. After Soviet-era vagrancy laws were
> repealed in 1992, major cities experienced an influx of homeless
> populations. The new market economy saw major disparities in wealth,
> driving people from their traditional roles and into the streets.
>
> The implementation of the registration system in Russia worsened the
> homeless crisis. The registration system required those without housing
> to either acquire sponsorship from a relative who already had adequate
> living space or to purchase real estate. This system, coupled with the
> new market economy, lead to widespread real estate crime. Individuals
> with little to no knowledge of the real estate market were easily
> manipulated and scammed out of affordable long-term housing.
>
> Homelessness Today
> ------------------
> Today, homelessness in the Russian Federation is the problem everyone
> knows about but no one wants to address. According to Rosstat, the
> government organization responsible for tracking homelessness in the
> Russian Federation, there are 64,000 homeless people in Russia.
> However, the organization has not compiled new data since 2010.
> The real number is estimated to be roughly 5 million, approximately
> 3.5 percent of Russia’s population. These estimates correspond with
> reported numbers on Russians living below the poverty line. Out of
> Russia’s 144.5 million population, 13.3% live below the poverty line.
>
> One of the most common issues that the homeless in Russia face is the
> loss of legal documents, such as passports and residency permits. Once
> Russian citizens lose these documents, they are no longer eligible to
> receive free social or medical care and have no path to recovering
> these benefits. Compounding the problem is the widespread exploitation
> of those without legal documents. Companies who rely on homeless
> populations for inexpensive labor often do not follow through on paying
> wages. When homeless workers are paid, they face scrutiny and exploitation
> from the police who are at liberty to take advantage of undocumented people.
>
> Social Stigma
> -------------
> The unofficial mantra of the Russian Federation in regard to homelessness
> is, “out of sight, out of mind”. Although there are more homeless shelters
> in Russia today than in the past, they are sparse and inaccessible, many
> times located in the outskirts of districts. The Lyublino shelter has
> served as the primary center tackling the homelessness crisis for the
> last ten years. The shelter provides much-needed aid such as food, shelter,
> clothing, legal and medical services to its patrons. There are currently
> six shelters on the outskirts of Moscow including the largest, Lyublino,
> and five smaller ones. Plans for a homeless shelter in the city center
> were scrapped after widespread backlash from city residents. Instead,
> 30 vans patrol the city, picking up homeless and driving them to shelters
> nearly 15 kilometers outside the city center. Although these shelters are
> proof of progress, the societal response to ignore the issue prevents a
> head-on approach to tackling homelessness.
>
> Other cities in the Russian Federation are addressing both the issue of
> homelessness and social stigma. In St. Petersburg, the Nochlezhka NGO
> feeds, counsels and shelters homeless populations. Funded mostly by
> donations, the crown jewel of the organization is a 4-story rehab center
> that houses roughly 50 people. In 2017, The Moscow Times reported that
> 145 people passed through the shelter and 51% now live in permanent homes..
> In 2018, in addition to their rehabilitation program, the organization
> provided food, shelter & legal services to 9,000 homeless in St. Petersburg.
> The organization also helps to educate Russian citizens on how people become
> homeless and what can be done to help. Through educational efforts, they
> hope to eliminate the decades-old stigma of homelessness. The organization’s
> work has been largely successful in St. Petersburg; however, the homeless
> stigma still persists in Moscow where an estimated 100,000 people are
> homeless. Nochlezhka hopes to employ the same measures that worked in
> St. Petersburg to Moscow.
>
> Unraveling the decades-long homeless crisis in the Russian Federation
> can't be done overnight. The largest challenge is not just overcoming
> homelessness itself by providing more shelters, but eliminating the
> stigma associated with it. As mindsets change, organizations educate
> and the Russian state government stops pushing homelessness out of sight,
> the state can ultimately overcome one of its most trying challenges.
> --– Max Lang
>
> https://borgenproject.org/stigma-of-homelessness-russia/
> --
> --

Homelessness is happening in every country. It is a growing problem. Homeless people can grow into millions. Most times, nobody wants to know how many were there in their city. Upon complaints, they were removed out of sight from them. The mainstream people were happy to see their property increased in value. When they were out of sight and out of mind, it pleases the people in managing the city, too.

Basically, the homeless people were moved elsewhere out of the city. They gathered themselves elsewhere for their shelters and formed their own protection, too. They look out for each other, and hence, they resigned to begging for foods and money. Their family sometimes joined them, too.

Overall, they resented society and government, too. Social service people with high academic education on social problem were unable to solve them. They were poorly paid and their high qualification service were not respected much by main stream employers and civil service, too. So they gave up even though they had tons of reports produced from talking to homeless people.

Hence, they changed their job and moved on to other respectable career employment instead. New recruits from volunteers and university graduates were hired again, and new reports produced again. At the end of the day, no one in government wants to carry out their proposals to solve them. They think the homeless people will become the hot potatoes for them to carry and a burden to them too.

Hence, proposal is shelved and nothing will be done by social workers. Even after each change of government, it will not be surfaced for action but new reports from new recruits will produce again. The vicious cycle will continue year after year. It will not solved the growing homeless people.

stoney, <news:fa98799b-b2b1-42df-9d69-0b2a22005eefn@googlegroups.com>
> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 2:19:33 PM UTC+8, David P. wrote:

>> THE SOCIAL STIGMA OF HOMELESSNESS IN RUSSIA
>> =========================================
>> Like many social issues, the homelessness crises around the world
>> has a multitude of underlying factors. To be homeless is not just
>> about having no physical home. Being homeless is about economic,
>
> Homelessness is happening in every country. It is a growing problem.
> Homeless people can grow into millions. Most times, nobody wants to know how
> many were there in their city. Upon complaints, they were removed out of
> sight from them. The mainstream people were happy to see their property
> increased in value. When they were out of sight and out of mind, it pleases
> the people in managing the city, too.
>
> Basically, the homeless people were moved elsewhere out of the city. They
> gathered themselves elsewhere for their shelters and formed their own
> protection, too. They look out for each other, and hence, they resigned to
> begging for foods and money. Their family sometimes joined them, too.

Russian laws are so that it's difficult to lose your the only home, even
if you no longer can pay the bills. If a person has become bankrupt then
the court will look deeper into details of his or her personal life and
if there's no "valid excuse" it may order forced resettlement into cheaper
housing, and it does not imply just a throwing someone out on the street,
and if the case is really difficult then special social services will have
to deal with it. That's why the Russia's homelessness can't be considered
the same way as it occurs elsewhere, especially in such free world where
laws do not protect people against easy deprivation of housing.