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From: os3...@netc.eu (Oleg Smirnov)
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Subject: Re: The Ukrainians Trapped in Between
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 07:17:24 +0300
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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Thu, 30 Jun 2022 04:17 UTC

> By Alisa Sopova, June 25, 2022 , WSJ
>
> Once known as the vibrant "city of a million roses," Donetsk has over the
> past 8 years turned into a showcase for what Russia has in store for the
> Ukrainian territories it occupies.

Brazen lies in the very first sentence, as usual. If one wants to
see "a showcase for what Russia has in store" then it's possible to
see it in Crimea. Crimea has become improved a lot for eight years
and the vast majority of the locals doesn't feel any nostalgia for
life under Kiev rule.

Donetsk cannot be a showcase because it still remains a front-line
city, which is under shelling regularly. Local infrastructure is
so that in 2014 the troops of the Kiev regime managed to entrench
near the city. Since then they have created there a well-fortified
multi-layered defense system.

The necessity to get rid of the regular shelling of Donetsk was
one of the reasons to start the military operation in February.
Military command says that a head-on storm of this well-fortified
line of defense would be impractical, but one day the spot will be
eventually encircled. The troops sitting there currently know that
denouement is approaching, they have no chance to take Donetsk, so
they have intensified shelling, seeking to produce as much damage
as possible. Given that the city has long been vulnerable, there's
no any military depots etc. The Kiev troops are simply shelling
its residential areas. Many people have been evacuated from there,
but not all, so there are regular reports about killed civilians.

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From: os3...@netc.eu (Oleg Smirnov)
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Subject: Re: The Ukrainians Trapped in Between
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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Wed, 6 Jul 2022 11:50 UTC

> Donetsk cannot be a showcase because it still remains a front-line
> city, which is under shelling regularly. Local infrastructure is
> so that in 2014 the troops of the Kiev regime managed to entrench
> near the city. Since then they have created there a well-fortified
> multi-layered defense system.
>
> The necessity to get rid of the regular shelling of Donetsk was
> one of the reasons to start the military operation in February.
> Military command says that a head-on storm of this well-fortified
> line of defense would be impractical, but one day the spot will be
> eventually encircled. The troops sitting there currently know that
> denouement is approaching, they have no chance to take Donetsk, so
> they have intensified shelling, seeking to produce as much damage
> as possible. Given that the city has long been vulnerable, there's
> no any military depots etc. The Kiev troops are simply shelling
> its residential areas. Many people have been evacuated from there,
> but not all, so there are regular reports about killed civilians.

Before February 2014, Western media were paying very little
attention to the shelling of Donbas by the Kiev troops and to
the casualties caused by it. Some "international organizations"
included such information in their reports carefully worded so
as not to explicitly blame the Kiev regime. And here's a very
recent example on how British popular newspaper accuses Russia
of shelling of Donetsk:

| Russia In Blitz On Donetsk
| PLUMES of smoke rise above Donetsk in Eastern Ukraine
| yesterday after a vicious Russian bombardment. Moscow's
| forces have turned their attention to battering the city with
| the remaining Donbas region .. <https://archive.is/SJqch>

And even more prominent British "The Daily Telegraph", in its
printed version, disinforms that "Putin sends troops deeper into
Donbas with Donetsk in sight", i.e. implying Donetsk as a target
(may be seen through pressreader.com <https://tinyurl.com/2n668jq6>
select "13 World News", and you'll see it).

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Wed, 6 Jul 2022 12:00 UTC

>> Donetsk cannot be a showcase because it still remains a front-line
>> city, which is under shelling regularly. Local infrastructure is
>> so that in 2014 the troops of the Kiev regime managed to entrench
>> near the city. Since then they have created there a well-fortified
>> multi-layered defense system.
>>
>> The necessity to get rid of the regular shelling of Donetsk was
>> one of the reasons to start the military operation in February.
>> Military command says that a head-on storm of this well-fortified
>> line of defense would be impractical, but one day the spot will be
>> eventually encircled. The troops sitting there currently know that
>> denouement is approaching, they have no chance to take Donetsk, so
>> they have intensified shelling, seeking to produce as much damage
>> as possible. Given that the city has long been vulnerable, there's
>> no any military depots etc. The Kiev troops are simply shelling
>> its residential areas. Many people have been evacuated from there,
>> but not all, so there are regular reports about killed civilians.
>
> Before February 2014, Western media were paying very little

Correction: February 2022

> attention to the shelling of Donbas by the Kiev troops and to
> the casualties caused by it. Some "international organizations"
> included such information in their reports carefully worded so
> as not to explicitly blame the Kiev regime. And here's a very
> recent example on how British popular newspaper accuses Russia
> of shelling of Donetsk:
>
> | Russia In Blitz On Donetsk
> | PLUMES of smoke rise above Donetsk in Eastern Ukraine
> | yesterday after a vicious Russian bombardment. Moscow's
> | forces have turned their attention to battering the city with
> | the remaining Donbas region .. <https://archive.is/SJqch>
>
> And even more prominent British "The Daily Telegraph", in its
> printed version, disinforms that "Putin sends troops deeper into
> Donbas with Donetsk in sight", i.e. implying Donetsk as a target
> (may be seen through pressreader.com <https://tinyurl.com/2n668jq6>
> select "13 World News", and you'll see it).

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