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* What does Putin want to achieve from the special military operation?ltlee1
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1. It is a preventive war and an operation to remove nuclear plants byproduct such as weapon ready plutonium in the form of oxide powder.
2. A warning against European nations not to accept Ukraine EU and especially NATO application.
3. A punitive expedition for violence against ethnic Russians,
4. An operation to snatch part of Ukraine, currently recognized by Russia as independent DPR and LPR.

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 by: stoney - Thu, 7 Apr 2022 16:47 UTC

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 8:46:03 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> 1. It is a preventive war and an operation to remove nuclear plants byproduct such as weapon ready plutonium in the form of oxide powder.
> 2. A warning against European nations not to accept Ukraine EU and especially NATO application.
> 3. A punitive expedition for violence against ethnic Russians,
> 4. An operation to snatch part of Ukraine, currently recognized by Russia as independent DPR and LPR.

All the four reasons, but, however, they are not good enough. They want to show to US their prowess that US dares not to enter to fight them in Ukraine. So far US dares not fight Russia.

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On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 12:47:21 PM UTC-4, stoney wrote:
> On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 8:46:03 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> > 1. It is a preventive war and an operation to remove nuclear plants byproduct such as weapon ready plutonium in the form of oxide powder.
> > 2. A warning against European nations not to accept Ukraine EU and especially NATO application.
> > 3. A punitive expedition for violence against ethnic Russians,
> > 4. An operation to snatch part of Ukraine, currently recognized by Russia as independent DPR and LPR.
> All the four reasons, but, however, they are not good enough. They want to show to US their prowess that US dares not to enter to fight them in Ukraine. So far US dares not fight Russia.

Headline:
"The State Department Failed To Prevent The War. Will It Now Prevent The Peace?"

With well defined objectives, Russia could easily spoil US effort to prevent peace.
Russia could simply declare victory and unilaterally ceasefire with new Russia-Ukraine border.

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 by: ltlee1 - Sun, 17 Apr 2022 16:02 UTC

On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 9:15:54 AM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 12:47:21 PM UTC-4, stoney wrote:
> > On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 8:46:03 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > 1. It is a preventive war and an operation to remove nuclear plants byproduct such as weapon ready plutonium in the form of oxide powder.
> > > 2. A warning against European nations not to accept Ukraine EU and especially NATO application.
> > > 3. A punitive expedition for violence against ethnic Russians,
> > > 4. An operation to snatch part of Ukraine, currently recognized by Russia as independent DPR and LPR.
> > All the four reasons, but, however, they are not good enough. They want to show to US their prowess that US dares not to enter to fight them in Ukraine. So far US dares not fight Russia.
> Headline:
> "The State Department Failed To Prevent The War. Will It Now Prevent The Peace?"
>
> With well defined objectives, Russia could easily spoil US effort to prevent peace.
> Russia could simply declare victory and unilaterally ceasefire with new Russia-Ukraine border.

Not too early for such announcement.

https://english.pravda.ru/news/russia/151184-ukraine_operation/
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Russian senator: Moscow plans to end military operation in Ukraine soon
Editorial Team

Russia's special operation in Ukraine and Donbas is going to end soon, Andrey Klimov, a member of the Federation Council said, RIA Novosti reports.
Russia plans to end military operation in Ukraine soon

According to him, Russia does not intend to make it drag out deliberately.

In order for the operation to end, Ukraine needs to be transformed into a state that would be safe for Russia and the world. To this end, Russia must ensure the safety of nuclear facilities and study the work of Ukrainian biological laboratories, the senator added.
Kremlin names primary task of military operation

According to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, the primary task of Russia's special military operation in Ukraine is the destruction of nationalist battalions, TASS reports.

"The main thing is to liberate [Ukraine] from those nationalist battalions,” the Kremlin spokesman stated.

Peskov also said that all the tasks assigned to the Russian Armed Forces would be undoubtedly fulfilled. Peskov also said that all nationalist battalions would be eliminated in the areas where they still remained.

Earlier, the Russian Defence Ministry showed a map with as many as 30 biological laboratories in 14 settlements of Ukraine. The bio labs, the ministry said, were involved in full-scale military biological activities.

Russia launched the special military operation in Ukraine on February 24. The purpose of the operation is to assist the republics of Donbass, to demilitarise and denazify Ukraine.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov explained that the end of the operation would depend on whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky could accept Russia's conditions at negotiations.
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Subject: Re: What does Putin want to achieve from the special military operation?
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 by: stoney - Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:12 UTC

On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 12:02:09 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 9:15:54 AM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 12:47:21 PM UTC-4, stoney wrote:
> > > On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 8:46:03 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > > 1. It is a preventive war and an operation to remove nuclear plants byproduct such as weapon ready plutonium in the form of oxide powder.
> > > > 2. A warning against European nations not to accept Ukraine EU and especially NATO application.
> > > > 3. A punitive expedition for violence against ethnic Russians,
> > > > 4. An operation to snatch part of Ukraine, currently recognized by Russia as independent DPR and LPR.
> > > All the four reasons, but, however, they are not good enough. They want to show to US their prowess that US dares not to enter to fight them in Ukraine. So far US dares not fight Russia.
> > Headline:
> > "The State Department Failed To Prevent The War. Will It Now Prevent The Peace?"
> >
> > With well defined objectives, Russia could easily spoil US effort to prevent peace.
> > Russia could simply declare victory and unilaterally ceasefire with new Russia-Ukraine border.
> Not too early for such announcement.
>
> https://english.pravda.ru/news/russia/151184-ukraine_operation/
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Russian senator: Moscow plans to end military operation in Ukraine soon
> Editorial Team
>
> Russia's special operation in Ukraine and Donbas is going to end soon, Andrey Klimov, a member of the Federation Council said, RIA Novosti reports.
> Russia plans to end military operation in Ukraine soon
>
> According to him, Russia does not intend to make it drag out deliberately..
>
> In order for the operation to end, Ukraine needs to be transformed into a state that would be safe for Russia and the world. To this end, Russia must ensure the safety of nuclear facilities and study the work of Ukrainian biological laboratories, the senator added.
> Kremlin names primary task of military operation
>
> According to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, the primary task of Russia's special military operation in Ukraine is the destruction of nationalist battalions, TASS reports.
>
> "The main thing is to liberate [Ukraine] from those nationalist battalions,” the Kremlin spokesman stated.
>
> Peskov also said that all the tasks assigned to the Russian Armed Forces would be undoubtedly fulfilled. Peskov also said that all nationalist battalions would be eliminated in the areas where they still remained.
>
> Earlier, the Russian Defence Ministry showed a map with as many as 30 biological laboratories in 14 settlements of Ukraine. The bio labs, the ministry said, were involved in full-scale military biological activities.
>
> Russia launched the special military operation in Ukraine on February 24. The purpose of the operation is to assist the republics of Donbass, to demilitarise and denazify Ukraine.
>
> Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov explained that the end of the operation would depend on whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky could accept Russia's conditions at negotiations.
> ----------------------------------------------------

What is nationalist battalions? Are they not the national troops of Ukraine?.

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 by: ltlee1 - Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:07 UTC

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 3:12:29 PM UTC-4, stoney wrote:
> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 12:02:09 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> > On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 9:15:54 AM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 12:47:21 PM UTC-4, stoney wrote:
> > > > On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 8:46:03 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > > > 1. It is a preventive war and an operation to remove nuclear plants byproduct such as weapon ready plutonium in the form of oxide powder.
> > > > > 2. A warning against European nations not to accept Ukraine EU and especially NATO application.
> > > > > 3. A punitive expedition for violence against ethnic Russians,
> > > > > 4. An operation to snatch part of Ukraine, currently recognized by Russia as independent DPR and LPR.
> > > > All the four reasons, but, however, they are not good enough. They want to show to US their prowess that US dares not to enter to fight them in Ukraine. So far US dares not fight Russia.
> > > Headline:
> > > "The State Department Failed To Prevent The War. Will It Now Prevent The Peace?"
> > >
> > > With well defined objectives, Russia could easily spoil US effort to prevent peace.
> > > Russia could simply declare victory and unilaterally ceasefire with new Russia-Ukraine border.
> > Not too early for such announcement.
> >
> > https://english.pravda.ru/news/russia/151184-ukraine_operation/
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Russian senator: Moscow plans to end military operation in Ukraine soon
> > Editorial Team
> >
> > Russia's special operation in Ukraine and Donbas is going to end soon, Andrey Klimov, a member of the Federation Council said, RIA Novosti reports..
> > Russia plans to end military operation in Ukraine soon
> >
> > According to him, Russia does not intend to make it drag out deliberately.
> >
> > In order for the operation to end, Ukraine needs to be transformed into a state that would be safe for Russia and the world. To this end, Russia must ensure the safety of nuclear facilities and study the work of Ukrainian biological laboratories, the senator added.
> > Kremlin names primary task of military operation
> >
> > According to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, the primary task of Russia's special military operation in Ukraine is the destruction of nationalist battalions, TASS reports.
> >
> > "The main thing is to liberate [Ukraine] from those nationalist battalions,” the Kremlin spokesman stated.
> >
> > Peskov also said that all the tasks assigned to the Russian Armed Forces would be undoubtedly fulfilled. Peskov also said that all nationalist battalions would be eliminated in the areas where they still remained.
> >
> > Earlier, the Russian Defence Ministry showed a map with as many as 30 biological laboratories in 14 settlements of Ukraine. The bio labs, the ministry said, were involved in full-scale military biological activities.
> >
> > Russia launched the special military operation in Ukraine on February 24. The purpose of the operation is to assist the republics of Donbass, to demilitarise and denazify Ukraine.
> >
> > Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov explained that the end of the operation would depend on whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky could accept Russia's conditions at negotiations.
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> What is nationalist battalions? Are they not the national troops of Ukraine?.

Military groups such as the Azov Battalion are, in the beginning, not national troops of Ukraine.
They were locally organized to fight pro-Russia militia in the Donbass region since 2014.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

Russia considers them Nazi like organization.
Not sure about their current status.

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