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"Russian President Vladimir Putin recently said that he sees success in the ongoing conflict with Ukraine, despite recent remarks made by a top ally who admitted that the war was not progressing as fast as Russia hoped it would.

"The operation is developing successfully, in strict accordance with pre-approved plans," Putin said in translated remarks during a videoconference on Wednesday. "As for the tactics of military operations, which was developed by the Russian Ministry of Defense and our General Staff, it has fully justified itself. And our men - soldiers and officers - show courage and heroism, do everything in their power to avoid losses among the civilian population of Ukrainian cities."

Putin's comments come just a few days after the head of Russia's National Guard Viktor Zolotov, appeared to have a different take on the ongoing conflict with Ukraine.

In remarks posted to the Russian National Guard's website, Zolotov, who previously served as Putin's personal security guard, said, "I would like to say that yes, not everything is going as fast as we would like."

"But we are going towards our goal step by step and victory will be for us, and this icon will protect the Russian army and accelerate our victory," Zolotov added, according to Reuters.

Prior to Zolotov's comments on Monday, Russia's Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu took a stance similar to Putin's, saying that the war with Ukraine was "going according to the plan.""
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-sees-success-in-ukraine-war-despite-official-admitting-setbacks/ar-AAV9BOW

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 by: borie - Sat, 19 Mar 2022 16:46 UTC

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:22:52 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> "Russian President Vladimir Putin recently said that he sees success in the ongoing conflict with Ukraine, despite recent remarks made by a top ally who admitted that the war was not progressing as fast as Russia hoped it would.
>
> "The operation is developing successfully, in strict accordance with pre-approved plans," Putin said in translated remarks during a videoconference on Wednesday. "As for the tactics of military operations, which was developed by the Russian Ministry of Defense and our General Staff, it has fully justified itself. And our men - soldiers and officers - show courage and heroism, do everything in their power to avoid losses among the civilian population of Ukrainian cities."
>
> Putin's comments come just a few days after the head of Russia's National Guard Viktor Zolotov, appeared to have a different take on the ongoing conflict with Ukraine.
>
> In remarks posted to the Russian National Guard's website, Zolotov, who previously served as Putin's personal security guard, said, "I would like to say that yes, not everything is going as fast as we would like."
>
> "But we are going towards our goal step by step and victory will be for us, and this icon will protect the Russian army and accelerate our victory," Zolotov added, according to Reuters.
>
> Prior to Zolotov's comments on Monday, Russia's Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu took a stance similar to Putin's, saying that the war with Ukraine was "going according to the plan.""
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-sees-success-in-ukraine-war-despite-official-admitting-setbacks/ar-AAV9BOW

Step by step is the right approach to victory. Russia should use hypersonic missiles to deal with the resistance forces flowing in with equipment and arms from the borders.

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On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 7:22:52 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
> "Russian President Vladimir Putin recently said that he sees success in the ongoing conflict with Ukraine, despite recent remarks made by a top ally who admitted that the war was not progressing as fast as Russia hoped it would.
>
> "The operation is developing successfully, in strict accordance with pre-approved plans," Putin said in translated remarks during a videoconference on Wednesday. "As for the tactics of military operations, which was developed by the Russian Ministry of Defense and our General Staff, it has fully justified itself. And our men - soldiers and officers - show courage and heroism, do everything in their power to avoid losses among the civilian population of Ukrainian cities."
>
> Putin's comments come just a few days after the head of Russia's National Guard Viktor Zolotov, appeared to have a different take on the ongoing conflict with Ukraine.
>
> In remarks posted to the Russian National Guard's website, Zolotov, who previously served as Putin's personal security guard, said, "I would like to say that yes, not everything is going as fast as we would like."
>
> "But we are going towards our goal step by step and victory will be for us, and this icon will protect the Russian army and accelerate our victory," Zolotov added, according to Reuters.
>
> Prior to Zolotov's comments on Monday, Russia's Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu took a stance similar to Putin's, saying that the war with Ukraine was "going according to the plan.""
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-sees-success-in-ukraine-war-despite-official-admitting-setbacks/ar-AAV9BOW

Why are you cheering Putin on?

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 by: ltlee1 - Sat, 19 Mar 2022 18:45 UTC

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 6:01:00 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 7:22:52 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
> > "Russian President Vladimir Putin recently said that he sees success in the ongoing conflict with Ukraine, despite recent remarks made by a top ally who admitted that the war was not progressing as fast as Russia hoped it would.
> >
> > "The operation is developing successfully, in strict accordance with pre-approved plans," Putin said in translated remarks during a videoconference on Wednesday. "As for the tactics of military operations, which was developed by the Russian Ministry of Defense and our General Staff, it has fully justified itself. And our men - soldiers and officers - show courage and heroism, do everything in their power to avoid losses among the civilian population of Ukrainian cities."
> >
> > Putin's comments come just a few days after the head of Russia's National Guard Viktor Zolotov, appeared to have a different take on the ongoing conflict with Ukraine.
> >
> > In remarks posted to the Russian National Guard's website, Zolotov, who previously served as Putin's personal security guard, said, "I would like to say that yes, not everything is going as fast as we would like."
> >
> > "But we are going towards our goal step by step and victory will be for us, and this icon will protect the Russian army and accelerate our victory," Zolotov added, according to Reuters.
> >
> > Prior to Zolotov's comments on Monday, Russia's Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu took a stance similar to Putin's, saying that the war with Ukraine was "going according to the plan.""
> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-sees-success-in-ukraine-war-despite-official-admitting-setbacks/ar-AAV9BOW
> Why are you cheering Putin on?

Don't get what you mean.
Please rephrase.

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 by: ltlee1 - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 02:17 UTC

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:46:56 PM UTC, borie wrote:
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:22:52 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> > "Russian President Vladimir Putin recently said that he sees success in the ongoing conflict with Ukraine, despite recent remarks made by a top ally who admitted that the war was not progressing as fast as Russia hoped it would.
> >
> > "The operation is developing successfully, in strict accordance with pre-approved plans," Putin said in translated remarks during a videoconference on Wednesday. "As for the tactics of military operations, which was developed by the Russian Ministry of Defense and our General Staff, it has fully justified itself. And our men - soldiers and officers - show courage and heroism, do everything in their power to avoid losses among the civilian population of Ukrainian cities."
> >
> > Putin's comments come just a few days after the head of Russia's National Guard Viktor Zolotov, appeared to have a different take on the ongoing conflict with Ukraine.
> >
> > In remarks posted to the Russian National Guard's website, Zolotov, who previously served as Putin's personal security guard, said, "I would like to say that yes, not everything is going as fast as we would like."
> >
> > "But we are going towards our goal step by step and victory will be for us, and this icon will protect the Russian army and accelerate our victory," Zolotov added, according to Reuters.
> >
> > Prior to Zolotov's comments on Monday, Russia's Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu took a stance similar to Putin's, saying that the war with Ukraine was "going according to the plan.""
> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-sees-success-in-ukraine-war-despite-official-admitting-setbacks/ar-AAV9BOW
> Step by step is the right approach to victory. Russia should use hypersonic missiles to deal with the resistance forces flowing in with equipment and arms from the borders.

Russia had shown a "Don't Tread On Me" flag in the form of a nuclear capable hypersonic missile.

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 by: stoney - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 16:44 UTC

On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 10:17:47 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:46:56 PM UTC, borie wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:22:52 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > "Russian President Vladimir Putin recently said that he sees success in the ongoing conflict with Ukraine, despite recent remarks made by a top ally who admitted that the war was not progressing as fast as Russia hoped it would.
> > >
> > > "The operation is developing successfully, in strict accordance with pre-approved plans," Putin said in translated remarks during a videoconference on Wednesday. "As for the tactics of military operations, which was developed by the Russian Ministry of Defense and our General Staff, it has fully justified itself. And our men - soldiers and officers - show courage and heroism, do everything in their power to avoid losses among the civilian population of Ukrainian cities."
> > >
> > > Putin's comments come just a few days after the head of Russia's National Guard Viktor Zolotov, appeared to have a different take on the ongoing conflict with Ukraine.
> > >
> > > In remarks posted to the Russian National Guard's website, Zolotov, who previously served as Putin's personal security guard, said, "I would like to say that yes, not everything is going as fast as we would like."
> > >
> > > "But we are going towards our goal step by step and victory will be for us, and this icon will protect the Russian army and accelerate our victory," Zolotov added, according to Reuters.
> > >
> > > Prior to Zolotov's comments on Monday, Russia's Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu took a stance similar to Putin's, saying that the war with Ukraine was "going according to the plan.""
> > > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-sees-success-in-ukraine-war-despite-official-admitting-setbacks/ar-AAV9BOW
> > Step by step is the right approach to victory. Russia should use hypersonic missiles to deal with the resistance forces flowing in with equipment and arms from the borders.
> Russia had shown a "Don't Tread On Me" flag in the form of a nuclear capable hypersonic missile.

Russia is in the final stage of seizing the encircled capital of Ukraine. The Western media has already painted Russia bombardment with wed the world that it was the works of Russia or by themselves in the course of counterattack. Now Zelensky wants to talk with Putin but Russia is not ready to talk again. It is too late for Zelensky to table tennis with Putin. Russia has rights not to response to them when the opportunity to Zelensky to Russia is not working.

This means Zelensky has little respects to the president of Russia. In any war, the Western media mobilized the world to paint Russia as rogue for the destruction of Ukraine. But, seriously speaking, in any war, collateral damage is expected. Either side will have collateral damage. People in war-zone area is dislocated and suffered. It is natural for them to leave Ukraine to protect themselves. Henceforth, the magic of Zelensky is gone and the magic of marching tanks of Russia will be welcome by Ukraine.

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Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 12:18:45 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Putin Sees Success in Ukraine War Despite Official Admitting Setbacks
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 by: ltlee1 - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 19:18 UTC

On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:44:12 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 10:17:47 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:46:56 PM UTC, borie wrote:
> > > On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:22:52 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > > "Russian President Vladimir Putin recently said that he sees success in the ongoing conflict with Ukraine, despite recent remarks made by a top ally who admitted that the war was not progressing as fast as Russia hoped it would.
> > > >
> > > > "The operation is developing successfully, in strict accordance with pre-approved plans," Putin said in translated remarks during a videoconference on Wednesday. "As for the tactics of military operations, which was developed by the Russian Ministry of Defense and our General Staff, it has fully justified itself. And our men - soldiers and officers - show courage and heroism, do everything in their power to avoid losses among the civilian population of Ukrainian cities."
> > > >
> > > > Putin's comments come just a few days after the head of Russia's National Guard Viktor Zolotov, appeared to have a different take on the ongoing conflict with Ukraine.
> > > >
> > > > In remarks posted to the Russian National Guard's website, Zolotov, who previously served as Putin's personal security guard, said, "I would like to say that yes, not everything is going as fast as we would like."
> > > >
> > > > "But we are going towards our goal step by step and victory will be for us, and this icon will protect the Russian army and accelerate our victory," Zolotov added, according to Reuters.
> > > >
> > > > Prior to Zolotov's comments on Monday, Russia's Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu took a stance similar to Putin's, saying that the war with Ukraine was "going according to the plan.""
> > > > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-sees-success-in-ukraine-war-despite-official-admitting-setbacks/ar-AAV9BOW
> > > Step by step is the right approach to victory. Russia should use hypersonic missiles to deal with the resistance forces flowing in with equipment and arms from the borders.
> > Russia had shown a "Don't Tread On Me" flag in the form of a nuclear capable hypersonic missile.
> Russia is in the final stage of seizing the encircled capital of Ukraine. The Western media has already painted Russia bombardment with wed the world that it was the works of Russia or by themselves in the course of counterattack. Now Zelensky wants to talk with Putin but Russia is not ready to talk again. It is too late for Zelensky to table tennis with Putin. Russia has rights not to response to them when the opportunity to Zelensky to Russia is not working.
>
> This means Zelensky has little respects to the president of Russia. In any war, the Western media mobilized the world to paint Russia as rogue for the destruction of Ukraine. But, seriously speaking, in any war, collateral damage is expected. Either side will have collateral damage. People in war-zone area is dislocated and suffered. It is natural for them to leave Ukraine to protect themselves. Henceforth, the magic of Zelensky is gone and the magic of marching tanks of Russia will be welcome by Ukraine.

Don't really know what is going on in Ukraine.
One could find article claiming Ukraine has won. One could also find article claiming Russia is already in control.

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