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Donald Canton
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How is the US going to handle China's growing threat?
Originally Answered: How will the United States respond to China's growing threat?

How will the United States respond to China's growing technological, economic and political development?

The United States will respond to China's growing technological, economic and political development with long-term checks and balances against China by seeking sea dominance in the western Pacific Ocean and Indian Ocean.

The United States is implementing three simultaneous policies in Asia, focusing on China, regional allies and other non-aligned countries, and especially trying to win over Southeast Asia. However, the commentators believe that Biden has set up a very high unrealistic bar but in practice he can't do it himself but instead puts himself in a trilemma.

Overall, relatively speaking, the United States is in a state of declining power.

In fact, the United States is also aware of this. There are obviously great contradictions in the United States' foreign strategy. On the one hand, it wants to engage in strategic contraction, withdrawing troops from Afghanistan, and then engaging in AUKUS, withdrawing from the land and controlling the sea. On the other hand, its strategic intention is like not wanting to put anything. Originally, when the United States declined in national hegemony, there was already a huge gap between its strategic will and strategic capability. On the one hand, the United States wants to shrink, and on the other hand, it interferes everywhere. This makes the gap bigger and bigger, and a very obvious phenomenon is caused by "incapacity", that is, what it wants to do and what it can do are two different things.

A vicious circle has emerged in the United States. The United States wants to do something, but the strength is not available or unable to do it, leading to the more power it has to exert.

The more power it exerts, the more exposed its weakness.

Therefore, since Biden came to power for more than a year, whether it was domestic or foreign affairs, he shouted loudly and held a high attitude, high profile and tough, but very little is actually done, or nothing is really done.

The United States is considered to be a big mighty country, but in Southeast Asia, South Asia, and Japan, both investment and trade volume are declining.

For example, in the 20 years from 2001 to the present, China signed a "10+1" free trade agreement with Southeast Asia. The trade between China and ASEAN countries has increased by about 11 times, and the United States may even be less than 1.8 times.

There is less and less of what the USA can really do as the loud thunders in a little shower. That will be the new normal. Biden will get tougher and tougher on China, but there is less and less he can do.

Thus, be it in the South China Sea or in the Taiwan Strait, the possibility of large-scale conflict between the two major powers is becoming less and less likely. The United States can only be constantly harassing and making various small actions, but it is difficult to reverse the fundamental general trend, let alone hinder China's development. It is a waste of time and energy for the USA to get what it wants.

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On 13/2/2022 2:26 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> Donald Canton
> ·
> Follow
> Positive healthy person in Boston, Massachusetts, USAMon
> How is the US going to handle China's growing threat?
> Originally Answered: How will the United States respond to China's growing threat?
>
> How will the United States respond to China's growing technological, economic and political development?
>
> The United States will respond to China's growing technological, economic and political development with long-term checks and balances against China by seeking sea dominance in the western Pacific Ocean and Indian Ocean.
>
> The United States is implementing three simultaneous policies in Asia, focusing on China, regional allies and other non-aligned countries, and especially trying to win over Southeast Asia. However, the commentators believe that Biden has set up a very high unrealistic bar but in practice he can't do it himself but instead puts himself in a trilemma.
>
> Overall, relatively speaking, the United States is in a state of declining power.
>
>
> In fact, the United States is also aware of this. There are obviously great contradictions in the United States' foreign strategy. On the one hand, it wants to engage in strategic contraction, withdrawing troops from Afghanistan, and then engaging in AUKUS, withdrawing from the land and controlling the sea. On the other hand, its strategic intention is like not wanting to put anything. Originally, when the United States declined in national hegemony, there was already a huge gap between its strategic will and strategic capability. On the one hand, the United States wants to shrink, and on the other hand, it interferes everywhere. This makes the gap bigger and bigger, and a very obvious phenomenon is caused by "incapacity", that is, what it wants to do and what it can do are two different things.
>
> A vicious circle has emerged in the United States. The United States wants to do something, but the strength is not available or unable to do it, leading to the more power it has to exert.
>
> The more power it exerts, the more exposed its weakness.
>
> Therefore, since Biden came to power for more than a year, whether it was domestic or foreign affairs, he shouted loudly and held a high attitude, high profile and tough, but very little is actually done, or nothing is really done.
>
> The United States is considered to be a big mighty country, but in Southeast Asia, South Asia, and Japan, both investment and trade volume are declining.
>
> For example, in the 20 years from 2001 to the present, China signed a "10+1" free trade agreement with Southeast Asia. The trade between China and ASEAN countries has increased by about 11 times, and the United States may even be less than 1.8 times.
>
> There is less and less of what the USA can really do as the loud thunders in a little shower. That will be the new normal. Biden will get tougher and tougher on China, but there is less and less he can do.
>
> Thus, be it in the South China Sea or in the Taiwan Strait, the possibility of large-scale conflict between the two major powers is becoming less and less likely. The United States can only be constantly harassing and making various small actions, but it is difficult to reverse the fundamental general trend, let alone hinder China's development. It is a waste of time and energy for the USA to get what it wants.

US is not just declining power, but is a collapsed country, too.

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 by: Satish Kumar - Sun, 13 Feb 2022 18:40 UTC

Yale Guen Mar, you have really slowed down. World-News 2100 is consistently out-posting you.

I think you are suffering from a gross imbalance between your yin and your yang.

Beg Yuhua Lu to take you back. She is of generous heart and might forgive you in spite of your gross and serial transgressions.

Yale Guen Mar, if you are alive, then act alive.

For once in your lifetime, go and visit the graves of your parents Tony Chee Mar and Kim Hi Wong.

* Kowtow in front of their graves at East Palm Cemetery (Lot 49) in Tucson, AZ.

* You'll get to meet many of your relatives.

* Your brothers and sisters will be there. Join Ellen, Donald and Eugene at the grave site.

* Polish the headstone.

* Sweep the graves.

* Offer the choicest mai tai, play money and flowers.

* Burn incense.

* Wear a willow wreath on your head.

* Go up on swings with Judah, Valentina and Luca.

* In short, be a man and act to show that you live
by honoring your dead ancestors at Hungry Ghost Festival
and at Qingming Festival.

Brenton, Carlton, Valerie and Kimberly will be in your corner if Yuhua Lu takes pity on you and forgives you.. So will Judah, Valentina and Luca. Even Silvia, May Fung and Dr. Roberto Buonamici might forgive you in spite of all your grossly disgusting lapses.

What are your plans for 2022? The year 2022 is barely into its second month..

Plan a visit to East Palm Cemetery in Tucson, AZ. Look for Lot 49.

Here's the address and phone number:

East Palm Cemetery

5801 East Grant Road #C
Tucson, AZ 85712

(520) 886-5561

May Ellen, Donald and Eugene forgive you.

Most importantly, may God bless you.

On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 10:26:41 AM UTC-8, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> Donald Canton
> ·
> Follow
> Positive healthy person in Boston, Massachusetts, USAMon
> How is the US going to handle China's growing threat?
> Originally Answered: How will the United States respond to China's growing threat?
>
> How will the United States respond to China's growing technological, economic and political development?
>
> The United States will respond to China's growing technological, economic and political development with long-term checks and balances against China by seeking sea dominance in the western Pacific Ocean and Indian Ocean.
>
> The United States is implementing three simultaneous policies in Asia, focusing on China, regional allies and other non-aligned countries, and especially trying to win over Southeast Asia. However, the commentators believe that Biden has set up a very high unrealistic bar but in practice he can't do it himself but instead puts himself in a trilemma.
>
> Overall, relatively speaking, the United States is in a state of declining power.
>
>
> In fact, the United States is also aware of this. There are obviously great contradictions in the United States' foreign strategy. On the one hand, it wants to engage in strategic contraction, withdrawing troops from Afghanistan, and then engaging in AUKUS, withdrawing from the land and controlling the sea. On the other hand, its strategic intention is like not wanting to put anything. Originally, when the United States declined in national hegemony, there was already a huge gap between its strategic will and strategic capability. On the one hand, the United States wants to shrink, and on the other hand, it interferes everywhere. This makes the gap bigger and bigger, and a very obvious phenomenon is caused by "incapacity", that is, what it wants to do and what it can do are two different things.
>
> A vicious circle has emerged in the United States. The United States wants to do something, but the strength is not available or unable to do it, leading to the more power it has to exert.
>
> The more power it exerts, the more exposed its weakness.
>
> Therefore, since Biden came to power for more than a year, whether it was domestic or foreign affairs, he shouted loudly and held a high attitude, high profile and tough, but very little is actually done, or nothing is really done.
>
> The United States is considered to be a big mighty country, but in Southeast Asia, South Asia, and Japan, both investment and trade volume are declining.
>
> For example, in the 20 years from 2001 to the present, China signed a "10+1" free trade agreement with Southeast Asia. The trade between China and ASEAN countries has increased by about 11 times, and the United States may even be less than 1.8 times.
>
> There is less and less of what the USA can really do as the loud thunders in a little shower. That will be the new normal. Biden will get tougher and tougher on China, but there is less and less he can do.
>
> Thus, be it in the South China Sea or in the Taiwan Strait, the possibility of large-scale conflict between the two major powers is becoming less and less likely. The United States can only be constantly harassing and making various small actions, but it is difficult to reverse the fundamental general trend, let alone hinder China's development. It is a waste of time and energy for the USA to get what it wants.

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 by: Rusty Wyse - Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:23 UTC

On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-8, Satish Kumar wrote:
> Yale Guen Mar, you have really slowed down. World-News 2100 is consistently out-posting you.
>
> I think you are suffering from a gross imbalance between your yin and your yang.
>
> Beg Yuhua Lu to take you back. She is of generous heart and might forgive you in spite of your gross and serial transgressions.
>
> Yale Guen Mar, if you are alive, then act alive.
>
> For once in your lifetime, go and visit the graves of your parents Tony Chee Mar and Kim Hi Wong.
>
> * Kowtow in front of their graves at East Palm Cemetery (Lot 49) in Tucson, AZ.
>
> * You'll get to meet many of your relatives.
>
> * Your brothers and sisters will be there. Join Ellen, Donald and Eugene at the grave site.
>
> * Polish the headstone.
>
> * Sweep the graves.
>
> * Offer the choicest mai tai, play money and flowers.
>
> * Burn incense.
>
> * Wear a willow wreath on your head.
>
> * Go up on swings with Judah, Valentina and Luca.
>
> * In short, be a man and act to show that you live
> by honoring your dead ancestors at Hungry Ghost Festival
> and at Qingming Festival.
>
> Brenton, Carlton, Valerie and Kimberly will be in your corner if Yuhua Lu takes pity on you and forgives you.. So will Judah, Valentina and Luca. Even Silvia, May Fung and Dr. Roberto Buonamici might forgive you in spite of all your grossly disgusting lapses.
>
> What are your plans for 2022? The year 2022 is barely into its second month.
>
> Plan a visit to East Palm Cemetery in Tucson, AZ. Look for Lot 49.
>
> Here's the address and phone number:
>
> East Palm Cemetery
>
> 5801 East Grant Road #C
> Tucson, AZ 85712
>
> (520) 886-5561
>
> May Ellen, Donald and Eugene forgive you.

Gee!!! I haven't gone to Arizona for over 20 years...
And who are these people... Ellen, Donald, Eugene????
And I've hardly been to the Bay Area in the last 13 years...
I live a hermit's life...

You, too, Satish...
You should return to India to live a full life...
Your family in India has wealth, prestige...
No need for you to work as a janitor in the U.S.

>
> Most importantly, may God bless you.
> On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 10:26:41 AM UTC-8, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Donald Canton
> > ·
> > Follow
> > Positive healthy person in Boston, Massachusetts, USAMon
> > How is the US going to handle China's growing threat?
> > Originally Answered: How will the United States respond to China's growing threat?
> >
> > How will the United States respond to China's growing technological, economic and political development?
> >
> > The United States will respond to China's growing technological, economic and political development with long-term checks and balances against China by seeking sea dominance in the western Pacific Ocean and Indian Ocean.
> >
> > The United States is implementing three simultaneous policies in Asia, focusing on China, regional allies and other non-aligned countries, and especially trying to win over Southeast Asia. However, the commentators believe that Biden has set up a very high unrealistic bar but in practice he can't do it himself but instead puts himself in a trilemma.
> >
> > Overall, relatively speaking, the United States is in a state of declining power.
> >
> >
> > In fact, the United States is also aware of this. There are obviously great contradictions in the United States' foreign strategy. On the one hand, it wants to engage in strategic contraction, withdrawing troops from Afghanistan, and then engaging in AUKUS, withdrawing from the land and controlling the sea. On the other hand, its strategic intention is like not wanting to put anything. Originally, when the United States declined in national hegemony, there was already a huge gap between its strategic will and strategic capability. On the one hand, the United States wants to shrink, and on the other hand, it interferes everywhere. This makes the gap bigger and bigger, and a very obvious phenomenon is caused by "incapacity", that is, what it wants to do and what it can do are two different things.
> >
> > A vicious circle has emerged in the United States. The United States wants to do something, but the strength is not available or unable to do it, leading to the more power it has to exert.
> >
> > The more power it exerts, the more exposed its weakness.
> >
> > Therefore, since Biden came to power for more than a year, whether it was domestic or foreign affairs, he shouted loudly and held a high attitude, high profile and tough, but very little is actually done, or nothing is really done.
> >
> > The United States is considered to be a big mighty country, but in Southeast Asia, South Asia, and Japan, both investment and trade volume are declining.
> >
> > For example, in the 20 years from 2001 to the present, China signed a "10+1" free trade agreement with Southeast Asia. The trade between China and ASEAN countries has increased by about 11 times, and the United States may even be less than 1.8 times.
> >
> > There is less and less of what the USA can really do as the loud thunders in a little shower. That will be the new normal. Biden will get tougher and tougher on China, but there is less and less he can do.
> >
> > Thus, be it in the South China Sea or in the Taiwan Strait, the possibility of large-scale conflict between the two major powers is becoming less and less likely. The United States can only be constantly harassing and making various small actions, but it is difficult to reverse the fundamental general trend, let alone hinder China's development. It is a waste of time and energy for the USA to get what it wants.

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 by: Satish Kumar - Mon, 14 Feb 2022 02:19 UTC

On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 11:23:56 AM UTC-8, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Gee!!! I haven't gone to Arizona for over 20 years...
> And who are these people... Ellen, Donald, Eugene????
> And I've hardly been to the Bay Area in the last 13 years...
> I live a hermit's life...
>
> You, too, Satish...
> You should return to India to live a full life...
> Your family in India has wealth, prestige...
> No need for you to work as a janitor in the U.S.
>

In 1972, after getting kicked out by Lillian Dili Ham, you came to the East Coast. I met you in person for the first time in Baltimore though I had heard plenty of you from your cousins in Kansas.

The first time I heard of you was from your cousin Lawrence (uncle Ben's youngest son) who lives in the Bay Area and is now an auditor with the IRS. He regaled a gathering with the story of your experience at Junction City in Kansas when you were a teenager. Uncle Ben (Ben Shee Mar who is the twin brother of your dad Tony Chee Mar) had given you a job at his cafe. But you were into your own things, absorbed with your fetishes instead of doing the job you were hired to do at the cafe.

Not surprisingly, even a mild mannered man like Uncle Ben lost his patience.. He thrashed you black and blue when he found you indulging yourself at the local pig sty when you were supposed to be cleaning the dishes at the cafe. You were then sent back to Safford, AZ to your noble parents Tony Chee Mar and Kim Hi Wong.

The first time I met you personally was in Baltimore. Brenton was still a little boy and was sorely lacking a responsible father figure at home. It was I who helped Brenton practice baseball because you were not up to doing anything for the little boy.

Remember also how I helped you out when you were suffering constantly from allergic rashes around the place where your scrotum met your penis. It is I who told you not to use the softener Bounce on your underwear. Voila, your rashes went away (at least that's what you told me).

Yale Guen Mar (Resty Wyse), all that is in the past. It is time for you to think of your immediate future. Go to Safford, AZ where it had all started - your American experience. Buy a burial plot and tell your caregiver Meichi Thai that that's where you want to be buried. Otherwise, Valerie and Kimberly will have you buried in the Bay Area right between the final resting places for Lillian Dili Han and her mother. I don't know who will suffer greater pain, whether it will be you or it will be Lillian Dili Han and her esteemed mother.


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