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Paul Denlinger
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Has the "no limits ' China-Russia partnership announced on 2/4/22 shown once again that Vladimir Putin is a master politician?
No, it shows how incompetent US foreign policy is by turning Russia and China into a close partnership arrangement to oppose the US. Their partnership is a gift to Putin and Xi from several US administrations, with a ribbon tied on it, and the Americans are so delusional that most don’t even know what they did.

Russia and China are the two biggest foreign powers who can stop US interests in their tracks in different regions of the world. It is bad enough for the US to have to deal with each of them separately, but to have a foreign policy team which is so incompetent that China and Russia actually discover that they have shared interests in opposing the US, and are now coordinating their foreign policy together, is a nightmare for the US.

Add onto that the fact that the Chinese foreign policy team led by Wang Yi, and the Russian foreign policy team led by Sergey Lavrov, who are way ahead of the US foreign policy team led by Anthony Blinken in terms of experience in diplomacy, and it’s like getting a front-seat to the decline of US influence globally.

It is very obvious that the US is delivering a message which only old US allies would seriously entertain, and it is obvious that these Western allies are just nodding politely and are afraid to point out that Uncle Sam has lost control of his bladder.

It is very obvious that the US would like to provoke a military confrontation with Russia over Ukraine and with China over Taiwan[1], so that it can rally its allies and own people with a war, and is trying to provoke Russia and China to make the first move. It is also obvious that Russia and China see that this is a trap, and are avoiding it. In the contest with the US, both Russia and China understand that time is on their side, and that the US’s time is limited. Even many Americans sense that[2]; it is just that most don’t want to publicly admit it to their own friends and families because they have no answers.

The US has become its own worst enemy, and the only thing Russia and China need to do is protect their own interests and watch while the US spins into a froth of chaos while the society comes apart on its own.

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[1] Paul Denlinger's answer to Why do many Chinese claim that Taiwan is failing, despite Taiwan having a higher HDI, higher GDP per capita, and being claimed as the happiest country in Asia?
[2] Four Models For America’s Collapse

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 by: kico - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:03 UTC

On 8/2/2022 3:34 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> Paul Denlinger
> ·
> Follow
> Have lived in China, Taiwan and Hong Kong; fluent in Mandarin (written, spoken)Fri
> Has the "no limits ' China-Russia partnership announced on 2/4/22 shown once again that Vladimir Putin is a master politician?
> No, it shows how incompetent US foreign policy is by turning Russia and China into a close partnership arrangement to oppose the US. Their partnership is a gift to Putin and Xi from several US administrations, with a ribbon tied on it, and the Americans are so delusional that most don’t even know what they did.
>
> Russia and China are the two biggest foreign powers who can stop US interests in their tracks in different regions of the world. It is bad enough for the US to have to deal with each of them separately, but to have a foreign policy team which is so incompetent that China and Russia actually discover that they have shared interests in opposing the US, and are now coordinating their foreign policy together, is a nightmare for the US.
>
> Add onto that the fact that the Chinese foreign policy team led by Wang Yi, and the Russian foreign policy team led by Sergey Lavrov, who are way ahead of the US foreign policy team led by Anthony Blinken in terms of experience in diplomacy, and it’s like getting a front-seat to the decline of US influence globally.
>
> It is very obvious that the US is delivering a message which only old US allies would seriously entertain, and it is obvious that these Western allies are just nodding politely and are afraid to point out that Uncle Sam has lost control of his bladder.
>
> It is very obvious that the US would like to provoke a military confrontation with Russia over Ukraine and with China over Taiwan[1], so that it can rally its allies and own people with a war, and is trying to provoke Russia and China to make the first move. It is also obvious that Russia and China see that this is a trap, and are avoiding it. In the contest with the US, both Russia and China understand that time is on their side, and that the US’s time is limited. Even many Americans sense that[2]; it is just that most don’t want to publicly admit it to their own friends and families because they have no answers.
>
> The US has become its own worst enemy, and the only thing Russia and China need to do is protect their own interests and watch while the US spins into a froth of chaos while the society comes apart on its own.
>
> Footnotes
>
> [1] Paul Denlinger's answer to Why do many Chinese claim that Taiwan is failing, despite Taiwan having a higher HDI, higher GDP per capita, and being claimed as the happiest country in Asia?
> [2] Four Models For America’s Collapse

It is clearly it is a game that US being isolated and now US is doomed
for good.


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