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Raphael Hukai
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Living, Learning and Working GloballyUpdated Jan 19
Is it possible to manufacture things things in America instead of in China, without price increases for goods?
I think it is possible, especially with the AI and robotic revolution, the manufacture landscape will change. In fact, US does have advantage in terms of energy and land price. However, the issue is never been US vs. China, it is about US ourselves. The industrial foundation of today’s USA is from Henry Ford model T time, where middle class workers can work hard and afford a product they made! It created a great and almost unique (compare with traditional European industrial power) middle class base society.

However, the world has changed, and US industrial structure failed to transform accordingly. Elsewhere in the world, regardless it is China, Thailand, India, Turkey or Kenya (just list few countries I worked/lived in), when middle class start forming and gain purchasing power, they want basically two categories of goods: 1. luxuries; 2. decent (enough) and affordables. For the later, they all will try to make domestically if possible. USA doesn’t produce either! That’s why when China wants (sincerely) to buy US products, there is not that much (besides airplanes, medical equipment and computers) they can take. Our country is not good at producing goods for “mass market of middle class of other countries”. Europe on the other hands, has plenty luxury products, from car, fashion, cosmetics, watch, you name it. Politicians and media are so much into China blame game, and failed to address the structural problem of our industry. You can blame China as hard as you want, but in the end, if you don’t have things to sell to China, you will face the same problem in India, Thailand, Turkey, Kenya, and so on. China is selling the low ends, Europe take care of the high end, and US can only make bloody money from weapons, and making wars to create the market for it.

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On 8/2/2022 2:07 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> Raphael Hukai
> ·
> Follow
> Living, Learning and Working GloballyUpdated Jan 19
> Is it possible to manufacture things things in America instead of in China, without price increases for goods?
> I think it is possible, especially with the AI and robotic revolution, the manufacture landscape will change. In fact, US does have advantage in terms of energy and land price. However, the issue is never been US vs. China, it is about US ourselves. The industrial foundation of today’s USA is from Henry Ford model T time, where middle class workers can work hard and afford a product they made! It created a great and almost unique (compare with traditional European industrial power) middle class base society.
>
> However, the world has changed, and US industrial structure failed to transform accordingly. Elsewhere in the world, regardless it is China, Thailand, India, Turkey or Kenya (just list few countries I worked/lived in), when middle class start forming and gain purchasing power, they want basically two categories of goods: 1. luxuries; 2. decent (enough) and affordables. For the later, they all will try to make domestically if possible. USA doesn’t produce either! That’s why when China wants (sincerely) to buy US products, there is not that much (besides airplanes, medical equipment and computers) they can take. Our country is not good at producing goods for “mass market of middle class of other countries”. Europe on the other hands, has plenty luxury products, from car, fashion, cosmetics, watch, you name it. Politicians and media are so much into China blame game, and failed to address the structural problem of our industry. You can blame China as hard as you want, but in the end, if you don’t have things to sell to China, you will face the same problem in India, Thailand, Turkey, Kenya, and so on. China is selling the low ends, Europe take care of the high end, and US can only make bloody money from weapons, and making wars to create the market for it.

Americans cannot produce anymore because they spent their tax money on
how to make guns and weapons of destruction.
Now they are mostly are poor and broke, they spent their time in
sexting, porn, screwing, drinking, stealing, robbing, burglary, murder,
and scamming of their self and self-interests.
Let face it, there is no point in prusuing it at all.

They only work when they have work. If not, they have jobless benefits.
Their lowest labor rate is now at $25 per hour and the executives are in
the range of hundred of thousands per year.
But their product quality is expensive much due to short limited
production volumes, and hence price is at sky high at the top of the
mountain.
Just look at their car industry, which is their main industry, their
production quality of manufacturer is bad. Consumers bought them were
disappointed.This reflects American attitudes. Seriously, US is over.

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 by: Rusty Wyse - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:38 UTC

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 8:16:03 AM UTC-8, boro wrote:
> On 8/2/2022 2:07 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > Raphael Hukai
> > ·
> > Follow
> > Living, Learning and Working GloballyUpdated Jan 19
> > Is it possible to manufacture things things in America instead of in China, without price increases for goods?
> > I think it is possible, especially with the AI and robotic revolution, the manufacture landscape will change. In fact, US does have advantage in terms of energy and land price. However, the issue is never been US vs. China, it is about US ourselves. The industrial foundation of today’s USA is from Henry Ford model T time, where middle class workers can work hard and afford a product they made! It created a great and almost unique (compare with traditional European industrial power) middle class base society.
> >
> > However, the world has changed, and US industrial structure failed to transform accordingly. Elsewhere in the world, regardless it is China, Thailand, India, Turkey or Kenya (just list few countries I worked/lived in), when middle class start forming and gain purchasing power, they want basically two categories of goods: 1. luxuries; 2. decent (enough) and affordables. For the later, they all will try to make domestically if possible. USA doesn’t produce either! That’s why when China wants (sincerely) to buy US products, there is not that much (besides airplanes, medical equipment and computers) they can take. Our country is not good at producing goods for “mass market of middle class of other countries”. Europe on the other hands, has plenty luxury products, from car, fashion, cosmetics, watch, you name it. Politicians and media are so much into China blame game, and failed to address the structural problem of our industry. You can blame China as hard as you want, but in the end, if you don’t have things to sell to China, you will face the same problem in India, Thailand, Turkey, Kenya, and so on. China is selling the low ends, Europe take care of the high end, and US can only make bloody money from weapons, and making wars to create the market for it.
> Americans cannot produce anymore because they spent their tax money on
> how to make guns and weapons of destruction.
>
> Now they are mostly are poor and broke, they spent their time in
> sexting, porn, screwing, drinking, stealing, robbing, burglary, murder,
> and scamming of their self and self-interests.
> Let face it, there is no point in prusuing it at all.
>
>
> They only work when they have work. If not, they have jobless benefits.
> Their lowest labor rate is now at $25 per hour and the executives are in
> the range of hundred of thousands per year.
>
> But their product quality is expensive much due to short limited
> production volumes, and hence price is at sky high at the top of the
> mountain.
>
> Just look at their car industry, which is their main industry, their
> production quality of manufacturer is bad. Consumers bought them were
> disappointed.This reflects American attitudes. Seriously, US is over.

Yeah!!! Our main industry is war!!!!
We are proud of our aircraft carriers, fighter planes, missiles,...


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