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If Taiwanese love their freedom and democracy so much, and want to become independent from China, why do more than 500,000 of them choose to study, work, and live in the PRC?

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Subject: If Taiwanese love their freedom and democracy so much, and want to become independent from China, why do more than 500,000 of them choose to study, work, and live in the PRC?
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Chiu Yu
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If Taiwanese love their freedom and democracy so much, and want to become independent from China, why do more than 500,000 of them choose to study, work, and live in the PRC?
Great question.

I am from Taiwan, and know so many people fitting this description.

If I must pick the top 20 peoples in the world who value ideology over pragmatism, the Chinese are not one of them (neither are Americans, although maybe just slightly ahead). And despite the brainwashing narratives chanted across Taiwan, the Taiwanese people are culturally, ideologically and psychologically 100% Chinese. They are 100% Chinese in their world view, their value orientation, their priorities in life. That’s not something one can change overnight.

I might offend both sides with the above, but I believe this is the truth.

So it is no surprise at all that, when faced with a great opportunity to make money in China, the Taiwanese won’t need a second to decide. Freedom and other values are only for lip service. Nothing stands in the way of money!

By the same token, I have said many times here on Quora that if China ever recovers Taiwan and decides to implement exactly the same political system there as in China, I predict the most smooth transition. For Westerners hoping for Taiwanese snipers and suicide bombers, don’t hold your breath. We are not talking IRA or PLO here!

But you have to allow them to make money!

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On 25 Nov 2021 at 18.58.50 GMT+1, "Rusty Wyse" <rst888wxyz@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Chiu Yu
> ·
> Follow
> PhD in Physical Sciences, Major US University Nov 16
> If Taiwanese love their freedom and democracy so much, and want to become
> independent from China, why do more than 500,000 of them choose to study,
> work, and live in the PRC?
> Great question.
>
> I am from Taiwan, and know so many people fitting this description.
>
> If I must pick the top 20 peoples in the world who value ideology over
> pragmatism, the Chinese are not one of them (neither are Americans, although
> maybe just slightly ahead). And despite the brainwashing narratives chanted
> across Taiwan, the Taiwanese people are culturally, ideologically and
> psychologically 100% Chinese. They are 100% Chinese in their world view, their
> value orientation, their priorities in life. That’s not something one can
> change overnight.
>
> I might offend both sides with the above, but I believe this is the truth.
>
> So it is no surprise at all that, when faced with a great opportunity to make
> money in China, the Taiwanese won’t need a second to decide. Freedom and other
> values are only for lip service. Nothing stands in the way of money!
>
> By the same token, I have said many times here on Quora that if China ever
> recovers Taiwan and decides to implement exactly the same political system
> there as in China, I predict the most smooth transition. For Westerners hoping
> for Taiwanese snipers and suicide bombers, don’t hold your breath. We are not
> talking IRA or PLO here!
>
> But you have to allow them to make money!

Is Taiwan ever under CCP rules before?
If it is not, why use Independent from China?
Isn't Taiwan an independent country?

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 by: gorde - Sun, 28 Nov 2021 06:25 UTC

Not only thousands of students from Taiwan in China, but also hundreds of
thousands of students from Asia, Europe, and South America, too.

"Rusty Wyse" wrote in message
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Chiu Yu
·
Follow
PhD in Physical Sciences, Major US University Nov 16
If Taiwanese love their freedom and democracy so much, and want to become
independent from China, why do more than 500,000 of them choose to study,
work, and live in the PRC?
Great question.

I am from Taiwan, and know so many people fitting this description.

If I must pick the top 20 peoples in the world who value ideology over
pragmatism, the Chinese are not one of them (neither are Americans, although
maybe just slightly ahead). And despite the brainwashing narratives chanted
across Taiwan, the Taiwanese people are culturally, ideologically and
psychologically 100% Chinese. They are 100% Chinese in their world view,
their value orientation, their priorities in life. That’s not something one
can change overnight.

I might offend both sides with the above, but I believe this is the truth.

So it is no surprise at all that, when faced with a great opportunity to
make money in China, the Taiwanese won’t need a second to decide. Freedom
and other values are only for lip service. Nothing stands in the way of
money!

By the same token, I have said many times here on Quora that if China ever
recovers Taiwan and decides to implement exactly the same political system
there as in China, I predict the most smooth transition. For Westerners
hoping for Taiwanese snipers and suicide bombers, don’t hold your breath. We
are not talking IRA or PLO here!

But you have to allow them to make money!


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