Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others raise concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-not-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp

Rusty Wyse <rst888wxyz@gmail.com> wrote:
> Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others raise concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-not-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp

Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)

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On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:37:00 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
> Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others raise concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine
> >
> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-not-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp
> Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)

The U.S. did when we invaded Iraq!!!!

>
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Rusty Wyse <rst888wxyz@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:37:00 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
>> Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others raise concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine
>> >
>> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-not-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp
>> Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)
>
> The U.S. did when we invaded Iraq!!!!

It was a mistake [in more than one meaning] ;-)

My version is "Putin keeps *the option* open" based on troop buildup.

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On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 11:09:11 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
> Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:37:00 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
> >> Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others raise concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine
> >> >
> >> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-not-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp
> >> Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)
> >
> > The U.S. did when we invaded Iraq!!!!
> It was a mistake [in more than one meaning] ;-)
>
> My version is "Putin keeps *the option* open" based on troop buildup.

Yeah, much better than actual war...

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> A. Filip : Big Tech Brother is watching you.
> | Mankind is poised midway between the gods and the beasts.
> | (Plotinus)

On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 7:09:11 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
> Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:37:00 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
> >> Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others raise concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine
> >> >
> >> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-not-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp
> >> Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)
> >
> > The U.S. did when we invaded Iraq!!!!
> It was a mistake [in more than one meaning] ;-)
>
> My version is "Putin keeps *the option* open" based on troop buildup.

Depending of US and Nato reaction, invasion may not be necessary if the
goal is to intimidate Ukraine. Putin is giving the US under Biden a test.
Can it deal with Russia and China simultaneously? Would it seek further
detente with Russia and do the minimum with Russian buildup?
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> A. Filip : Big Tech Brother is watching you.
> | Mankind is poised midway between the gods and the beasts.
> | (Plotinus)

On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 4:43:44 AM UTC-8, ltlee1 wrote:
> On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 7:09:11 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
> > Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:37:00 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
> > >> Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others raise concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine
> > >> >
> > >> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-not-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp
> > >> Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)
> > >
> > > The U.S. did when we invaded Iraq!!!!
> > It was a mistake [in more than one meaning] ;-)
> >
> > My version is "Putin keeps *the option* open" based on troop buildup.
> Depending of US and Nato reaction, invasion may not be necessary if the
> goal is to intimidate Ukraine. Putin is giving the US under Biden a test.
> Can it deal with Russia and China simultaneously?

The U.S. can't even "deal" with Vietnam and/or Afghanistan!!!!
How could the U.S. "deal" with both Russia and/or China????

> Would it seek further
> detente with Russia and do the minimum with Russian buildup?
> > --
> > A. Filip : Big Tech Brother is watching you.
> > | Mankind is poised midway between the gods and the beasts.
> > | (Plotinus)

As more US special forces get older, the more they will die and ended up in
Arlington graveyard again.

Millions more displaced military people fighting with them will emigrate to
US for their safe haven.

Each time, US engaged a war on others, they have forgotten there are long
term costs towards to the after injured and maimed.

The president of the US and the Pentagon seem not to think of the long term
consequential costs to the people in keeping them alive.

"Rusty Wyse" wrote in message
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On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 4:43:44 AM UTC-8, ltlee1 wrote:
> On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 7:09:11 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
> > Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:37:00 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
> > >> Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others
> > >> > raise concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine
> > >> >
> > >> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-not-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp
> > >> Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)
> > >
> > > The U.S. did when we invaded Iraq!!!!
> > It was a mistake [in more than one meaning] ;-)
> >
> > My version is "Putin keeps *the option* open" based on troop buildup.
> Depending of US and Nato reaction, invasion may not be necessary if the
> goal is to intimidate Ukraine. Putin is giving the US under Biden a test.
> Can it deal with Russia and China simultaneously?

The U.S. can't even "deal" with Vietnam and/or Afghanistan!!!!
How could the U.S. "deal" with both Russia and/or China????

> Would it seek further
> detente with Russia and do the minimum with Russian buildup?
> > --
> > A. Filip : Big Tech Brother is watching you.
> > | Mankind is poised midway between the gods and the beasts.
> > | (Plotinus)

The answer is "Yes", they can deal with two countries simultaneously, in
theory, at least. NATO is there to move the fight with them.

But, in practice they may hard on them to deploy their thinkers and
strategists to direct a fight in two places at once.

The US can influence the 28 E to support them to fight Russia, but for
China, US is trying to have their allies, newly setup AUSUK, to fight China.

US is trying to get South Korea and Japan to join them, but they both
worried they will get into being "swallowed' for attacking China.

But US could could use their bases there to fight China. In theory, it
could, but if they do, they will have to suffer, too.

However, US cannot use their bases for attack on other countries as it was
for defence of their own country, instead,

Meanwhile, US has agreement to use one of the 10 members in the South east
Asia countries to transit their base to transit their AUSUK gang movement.

For sure, the white man AUSUK forces will not able to fight as people in
Asia hated US for carrying war on countries year after year since that past
40 years, but not for China, who provided much of the help to them.

"ltlee1" wrote in message
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On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 7:09:11 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
> Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:37:00 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
> >> Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others raise
> >> > concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine
> >> >
> >> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-n
> >> > leastot-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp
> >> Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)
> >
> > The U.S. did when we invaded Iraq!!!!
> It was a mistake [in more than one meaning] ;-)
>
> My version is "Putin keeps *the option* open" based on troop buildup.

Depending of US and Nato reaction, invasion may not be necessary if the
goal is to intimidate Ukraine. Putin is giving the US under Biden a test.
Can it deal with Russia and China simultaneously? Would it seek further
detente with Russia and do the minimum with Russian buildup?
> --
> A. Filip : Big Tech Brother is watching you.
> | Mankind is poised midway between the gods and the beasts.
> | (Plotinus)