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So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
<https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
A quick search showed California median house prices
were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
<https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
income.

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 by: Frank - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 13:35 UTC

On 9/1/2021 9:17 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
> <https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
> A quick search showed California median house prices
> were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
> This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
> <https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
> It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
> Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
> income.
>

I recall highest price homes are in Hawaii, California and Alaska.

Property taxes will vary with state region and can be a real kicker.

Houses in NJ and DE cost about the same but NJ property tax is 3 to 6X
what we pay in DE. Lower DE with lowest tax is becoming loaded with NJ
retirees.

You see a lot of these HGTV fixer upper shows and they show CA houses.
People make a fortune doing it as prices are so high.

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 by: Bob F - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 14:00 UTC

On 9/1/2021 6:17 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
> <https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
> A quick search showed California median house prices
> were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
> This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
> <https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
> It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
> Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
> income.
>

It has probably been the best investment many could have made. And the
mortgages are less than renting to pay off someone else's mortgage.

Once you buy a house, you no longer worry about rent increases, and once
you pay it off, your expenses are way less, which makes retirement way
easier. Especially if you can take care of it yourself.

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 by: Ralph Mowery - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 14:14 UTC

In article <d96d417b-026e-4c52-9fa6-2235de62fe1bn@googlegroups.com>,
deanh6929@gmail.com says...
> So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
> <https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
> A quick search showed California median house prices
> were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
> This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
> <https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
> It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
> Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
> income.
>
>

With all the movie and TV stars in California, and high technology
making millions every year and building 10 to 100 million dollar houses
no wonder the median is so high compared to Nebraska. However that does
not help the workers in California that are in low paying jobs.

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On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 9:00:54 AM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
> On 9/1/2021 6:17 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> > So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
> > <https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
> > A quick search showed California median house prices
> > were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
> > This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
> > <https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
> > It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
> > Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
> > income.
> >
> It has probably been the best investment many could have made. And the
> mortgages are less than renting to pay off someone else's mortgage.
>
> Once you buy a house, you no longer worry about rent increases, and once
> you pay it off, your expenses are way less, which makes retirement way
> easier. Especially if you can take care of it yourself.

Maybe I've seen too many small towns dying over the years. Much of what I see
is rural. Farms are getting bigger and the rural population is disappearing. Things
like grocery and hardware stores can't stay in business. Schools have to merge. The coops
that supply farming needs and buy grain merge also. It seems the last thing to close are the
bars that might serve a bit of food.
The administration is going to fund building 100,000 houses.
<https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/1/white-house-announces-plan-build-100k-affordable-h/>

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Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> writes:
> So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
><https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
> A quick search showed California median house prices
>were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
>This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
><https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
> It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
>Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
>income.

It seems silly that you would expound on something you have
no clue about.

Nebraska is not California; simple comparisons are meaningless,
since nobody _wants_ to move to Nebraska.

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"angelica...@yahoo.com" <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com> writes:
>On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 9:17:37 AM UTC-4, dean...@gmail.com wrote:
>> So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
>> <https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
>> A quick search showed California median house prices
>> were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
>> This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
>> <https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
>> It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
>> Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
>> income.
>
>"All the market will bear". Pure, unfettered market economics at work.

It is more than market economics, geography also plays a role; particularly
in the Bay Area where there isn't any land left to build on.

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 by: Buck Fiden - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 15:53 UTC

On 9/1/21 11:29 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> The administration is going to fund building 100,000 houses.
> <https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/1/white-house-announces-plan-build-100k-affordable-h/>

Actually, the headline should read

"The American Taxpayers are going to fund building 100,000 houses"

As ordinary working Americans sweat their house payment every month, 100k illegals will get a free one.

At some point, this will become so insane that even trader_4 will apologize for voting for Biden.

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 by: Ralph Mowery - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:01 UTC

In article <ScNXI.17688$F26.3286@fx44.iad>, scott@slp53.sl.home says...
>
> It seems silly that you would expound on something you have
> no clue about.
>
> Nebraska is not California; simple comparisons are meaningless,
> since nobody _wants_ to move to Nebraska.
>
>

Many comparisons ar meaningless. Does the California home price figure
in the homeless because of the high prices ? What percent of Nebraska
is homeless.

If I put my head in an oven and my feet in liquid nitorgren I will be at
a comfortable 72 deg F.

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 by: Bob F - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:26 UTC

On 9/1/2021 9:01 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> In article <ScNXI.17688$F26.3286@fx44.iad>, scott@slp53.sl.home says...
>>
>> It seems silly that you would expound on something you have
>> no clue about.
>>
>> Nebraska is not California; simple comparisons are meaningless,
>> since nobody _wants_ to move to Nebraska.
>>
>>
>
> Many comparisons ar meaningless. Does the California home price figure
> in the homeless because of the high prices ? What percent of Nebraska
> is homeless.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/727847/homelessness-rate-in-the-us-by-state/

>
> If I put my head in an oven and my feet in liquid nitorgren I will be at
> a comfortable 72 deg F.
>

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 by: Scott Lurndal - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:27 UTC

Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> writes:
>On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 9:00:54 AM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
>> On 9/1/2021 6:17 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>> > So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
>> > <https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
>> > A quick search showed California median house prices
>> > were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
>> > This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
>> > <https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
>> > It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
>> > Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
>> > income.
>> >
>> It has probably been the best investment many could have made. And the
>> mortgages are less than renting to pay off someone else's mortgage.
>>
>> Once you buy a house, you no longer worry about rent increases, and once
>> you pay it off, your expenses are way less, which makes retirement way
>> easier. Especially if you can take care of it yourself.
>
> Maybe I've seen too many small towns dying over the years. Much of what I see
>is rural. Farms are getting bigger and the rural population is disappearing. Things
>like grocery and hardware stores can't stay in business. Schools have to merge. The coops
>that supply farming needs and buy grain merge also. It seems the last thing to close are the
>bars that might serve a bit of food.

Perhaps you can elaborate on the reasons that small towns are dying and
how what you would do to slow down or reverse the trend.

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 by: Scott Lurndal - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:39 UTC

Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> writes:
>In article <ScNXI.17688$F26.3286@fx44.iad>, scott@slp53.sl.home says...
>>
>> It seems silly that you would expound on something you have
>> no clue about.
>>
>> Nebraska is not California; simple comparisons are meaningless,
>> since nobody _wants_ to move to Nebraska.
>>
>>
>
>Many comparisons ar meaningless.

A valid comparison is by definition meaningful.

>Does the California home price figure
>in the homeless because of the high prices ?

Supply and demand drives housing prices in California and elsewhere.

> What percent of Nebraska is homeless.

Nice try to change the subject.

Note that half the housing stock in california is _less_ than the
median price by definition.

Note that the population of California is almost forty
times that of Nebraska.

Note that, regardless of the size of the state, in the
areas that people want to reside, geographical restrictions
exist that prevent the urban sprawl so common in other states
like Texas. This, of course, makes the land more valuable
(supply and demand, again).

If you were homeless, would you stay in a state with shitty
weather and cold winters, or migrate to California?

(Or like, Las Vegas, buy bus tickets for the homeless and
_send_ them to California)

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/10/nevada-settles-busing-homeless-lawsuit-san-francisco/

Weren't you required to read _Grapes of Wrath_ in primary
school?

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 by: Frank - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 17:18 UTC

On 9/1/2021 11:53 AM, Buck Fiden wrote:
> On 9/1/21 11:29 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>> The administration is going to fund building 100,000 houses.
>> <https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/1/white-house-announces-plan-build-100k-affordable-h/>
>>
>
>
> Actually, the headline should read
>
> "The American Taxpayers are going to fund building 100,000 houses"
>
> As ordinary working Americans sweat their house payment every month,
> 100k illegals will get a free one.
>
>
> At some point, this will become so insane that even trader_4 will
> apologize for voting for Biden.
>

No he will not. There is no cure for TDS.

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On 9/1/2021 11:43 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> writes:
>> So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
>> <https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
>> A quick search showed California median house prices
>> were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
>> This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
>> <https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
>> It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
>> Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
>> income.
>
> It seems silly that you would expound on something you have
> no clue about.
>
> Nebraska is not California; simple comparisons are meaningless,
> since nobody _wants_ to move to Nebraska.
>

Rally?
https://tinyurl.com/39jda2x4
Nebraska's population grew 7.4% during past decade, moving state up to
37th largest in rankings

Drozd said the center’s research shows that Nebraska continues to grow
naturally through births.

Plus, he said, more people are moving into Nebraska than are moving out,
a trend that has carried on for three consecutive decades.

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Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx> writes:
>On 9/1/2021 11:43 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> writes:
>>> So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
>>> <https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
>>> A quick search showed California median house prices
>>> were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
>>> This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
>>> <https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
>>> It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
>>> Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
>>> income.
>>
>> It seems silly that you would expound on something you have
>> no clue about.
>>
>> Nebraska is not California; simple comparisons are meaningless,
>> since nobody _wants_ to move to Nebraska.
>>
>
>Rally?
>https://tinyurl.com/39jda2x4
>Nebraska's population grew 7.4% during past decade, moving state up to
>37th largest in rankings

Nebraska's population should have grown 13% during the
past decade, just from children being born to residents.

2019: 24755 children were born in Nebraska.

https://www.marchofdimes.org/peristats/ViewSubtopic.aspx?reg=31&top=2&stop=1&lev=1&slev=4&obj=1

Current population is 1.934 million.

Over a decade, that's approximately 247550 births:

$ printf '%f\n' $(( 247550.0 / 1934000.0 ))
0.127999

Which is about 13% growth over a decade (it would
be higher, but the birthrate has declined over
that decade).

So, Nebraska has had a net _migration out_ over
the last decade if they only grew 7.4%.

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On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 10:14:07 -0400, Ralph Mowery
<rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

>In article <d96d417b-026e-4c52-9fa6-2235de62fe1bn@googlegroups.com>,
>deanh6929@gmail.com says...
>> So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
>> <https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
>> A quick search showed California median house prices
>> were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
>> This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
>> <https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
>> It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
>> Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
>> income.
>>
>>
>
>With all the movie and TV stars in California, and high technology
>making millions every year and building 10 to 100 million dollar houses
>no wonder the median is so high compared to Nebraska. However that does
>not help the workers in California that are in low paying jobs.

I am amused by all of those California millionaires bitching about
income inequality as they are stopping to buy oranges from an illegal
on the side of the road in their Benz.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 18:46 UTC

Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote

> So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
> <https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>

> A quick search showed California median house prices
> were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
> This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
> <https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>

$1.4M in Sydney Australia. That’s USD$1.32M.

> It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.

You don’t have any choice when that’s where you live.

> Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's income.

But its essentially a form of forced saving.

And you can still make decent money, we bought a very decent
3 bedroom house in a NSW Australia country town for $232K in
May 2016 and its now worth at least $400K. Corse it had previously
sold for $245K in 2007.

Mate of mine has just built a bigger 4 bedroom house on a bare block
of land in a new subdivision for about $550K in the same town.

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 by: angelica...@yahoo.co - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 18:49 UTC

On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 11:45:06 AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> "angelica...@yahoo.com" <angelica...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 9:17:37 AM UTC-4, dean...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
> >> <https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
> >> A quick search showed California median house prices
> >> were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
> >> This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
> >> <https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
> >> It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
> >> Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
> >> income.
> >
> >"All the market will bear". Pure, unfettered market economics at work.
> It is more than market economics, geography also plays a role; particularly
> in the Bay Area where there isn't any land left to build on.

Supply is part of supply and demand, isn't it?

Cindy Hamilton

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 by: Alex - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 18:53 UTC

Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote
> On 9/1/2021 6:17 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

>> So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
>> <https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
>> A quick search showed California median house prices
>> were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
>> This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
>> <https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
>> It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
>> Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
>> income.

> It has probably been the best investment many could have made.

Yep.

> And the mortgages are less than renting to pay off someone else's
> mortgage.

That varies, sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.

> Once you buy a house, you no longer worry about rent increases,

And periodic inspections by the landlord's agent.

> and once you pay it off, your expenses are way less, which makes
> retirement way easier. Especially if you can take care of it yourself.

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 by: gfretw...@aol.com - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 18:54 UTC

On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 15:43:46 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

>Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> writes:
>> So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
>><https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
>> A quick search showed California median house prices
>>were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
>>This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
>><https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
>> It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
>>Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
>>income.
>
>It seems silly that you would expound on something you have
>no clue about.
>
>Nebraska is not California; simple comparisons are meaningless,
>since nobody _wants_ to move to Nebraska.

They said that about Wyoming and Montana and now they are swamped by
California refugees. Nebraska may be next. Warren Buffett likes it
there.
Acela Corridor refugees are pumping up our real estate prices here.
PreFIRM shacks that should be torn down are selling for $300k and
those "Yorkers" are snapping them up thinking it is a bargain.
I guess they are trying to wash the money they made when someone paid
too much for their house up north.

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 by: gfretw...@aol.com - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 19:01 UTC

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 09:26:31 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

>https://www.statista.com/statistics/727847/homelessness-rate-in-the-us-by-state/

now behind a pay wall

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 19:03 UTC

Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote
> Bob F wrote
>> Dean Hoffman wrote

>> > So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
>> > <https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
>> > A quick search showed California median house prices
>> > were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
>> > This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
>> > <https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
>> > It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
>> > Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
>> > income.
>> >
>> It has probably been the best investment many could have made. And the
>> mortgages are less than renting to pay off someone else's mortgage.
>>
>> Once you buy a house, you no longer worry about rent increases, and once
>> you pay it off, your expenses are way less, which makes retirement way
>> easier. Especially if you can take care of it yourself.
>
> Maybe I've seen too many small towns dying over the years. Much of
> what I see
> is rural. Farms are getting bigger and the rural population is
> disappearing. Things
> like grocery and hardware stores can't stay in business. Schools have to
> merge. The coops
> that supply farming needs and buy grain merge also.

> It seems the last thing to close are the bars that might serve a bit of
> food.

That isn't what happens here, it’s the small store that’s last here.

> The administration is going to fund building 100,000 houses.

But not in areas like where you are. For a reason.

> <https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/1/white-house-announces-plan-build-100k-affordable-h/>

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 19:16 UTC

Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote
> Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote
>> Bob F wrote
>>> Dean Hoffman wrote

>>> > So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
>>> > <https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
>>> > A quick search showed California median house prices
>>> > were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
>>> > This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
>>> > <https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
>>> > It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
>>> > Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
>>> > income.
>>> >
>>> It has probably been the best investment many could have made. And the
>>> mortgages are less than renting to pay off someone else's mortgage.
>>>
>>> Once you buy a house, you no longer worry about rent increases, and once
>>> you pay it off, your expenses are way less, which makes retirement way
>>> easier. Especially if you can take care of it yourself.
>>
>> Maybe I've seen too many small towns dying over the years. Much of
>> what I see
>>is rural. Farms are getting bigger and the rural population is
>>disappearing. Things
>>like grocery and hardware stores can't stay in business. Schools have to
>>merge. The coops
>>that supply farming needs and buy grain merge also. It seems the last
>>thing to close are the
>>bars that might serve a bit of food.
>
> Perhaps you can elaborate on the reasons that small towns are dying

Like he said, far fewer doing the agricultural work and also because its
no so much easier to drive to the larger towns for the supplys you need.

> and how what you would do to slow down or reverse the trend.

Not even possible to do that.

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 by: Alex - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 19:24 UTC

"Ed Pawlowski" <esp@snet.xxx> wrote in message
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> On 9/1/2021 11:43 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> writes:
>>> So says this article criticizing California Governor Newsom.
>>> <https://issuesinsights.com/2021/09/01/fact-checked-gavin-newsom-shouldnt-have-dared-us/>
>>> A quick search showed California median house prices
>>> were $505,000 vs. Nebraska median house prices $155,800.
>>> This is from the Census Bureau 2015-2019.
>>> <https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA,NE/PST045219>
>>> It seems silly that people are investing so much in their houses.
>>> Just the mortgage payments would take a good share of a couple's
>>> income.
>>
>> It seems silly that you would expound on something you have
>> no clue about.
>>
>> Nebraska is not California; simple comparisons are meaningless,
>> since nobody _wants_ to move to Nebraska.
>>
>
> Rally?
> https://tinyurl.com/39jda2x4
> Nebraska's population grew 7.4% during past decade, moving state up to
> 37th largest in rankings

That’s because, like Mao said, there is nothing else to do there but fuck.

> Drozd said the center’s research shows that Nebraska continues to grow
> naturally through births.

See.

> Plus, he said, more people are moving into Nebraska than are moving out,

A likely story.

> a trend that has carried on for three consecutive decades.

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 by: Ralph Mowery - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 20:06 UTC

In article <e2ivigpd3590souspneeboe9b5ficn5dlh@4ax.com>,
gfretwell@aol.com says...
>
> They said that about Wyoming and Montana and now they are swamped by
> California refugees. Nebraska may be next. Warren Buffett likes it
> there.
> Acela Corridor refugees are pumping up our real estate prices here.
> PreFIRM shacks that should be torn down are selling for $300k and
> those "Yorkers" are snapping them up thinking it is a bargain.
> I guess they are trying to wash the money they made when someone paid
> too much for their house up north.
>
>

The local news had a story a few months back about the shacks that
should be torn down were being offered and taxed at a rate of around $
250,000. Just so the 'rich people' could tare them and build in town.
The ones in the shacks can not afford the taxes on them.

The way I understand it is that houses up north are about 3 times the
price of around Charlotte, NC (or were a few years back) and you have
to buy/build a house equal or greater than the one you move out of , or
pay a bunch of tax on the house you move out of.


interests / alt.home.repair / Median Priced California House. $800,000 ????

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