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Re: Taiwan Tells Citizens 'Don't Be Dismayed' By WSJ Report on Low Troop Morale

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From: rst888w...@gmail.com (Rusty Wyse)
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 by: Rusty Wyse - Sun, 31 Oct 2021 16:45 UTC

On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 9:39:00 AM UTC-7, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 12:10:59 PM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 11:29:04 AM UTC-7, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 11:15:32 AM UTC-7, loftie wrote:
> > > > On 28/10/2021 2:36 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 11:32:12 AM UTC-7, kico wrote:
> > > > >> On 27/10/2021 2:29 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > >>> Taiwan Tells Citizens 'Don't Be Dismayed' By WSJ Report on Low Troop Morale
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/taiwan-tells-citizens-don-t-be-dismayed-by-wsj-report-on-low-troop-morale/ar-AAPYtxl?ocid=msedgntp
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> The morale of Taiwan troops is indeed very low. The troop is scared.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Their national service conscription training of 4 months only, They
> > > > >> troops are low in morale.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Taiwan soldiers will run off like what the Afghanistan soldiers did.
> > > > >
> > > > > 24 million vs 1.4 billion!!!
> > > > > No need to fight.
> > > > > Just give it to China!!!
> > > > >
> > > > Taiwan people are now stocking up their foods and necessities for the
> > > > impending war between China and Taiwan.
> > > >
> > > > They know it is their wicked president Tsai that is playing war drum to
> > > > the world in order to draw her cries to the world, EU and US and others.
> > > >
> > > > They are going to skin her alive if she continues to put them on war
> > > > path with China.
> > > >
> > > > They will not vote her in the next election. After her stand down, they
> > > > will file charges on her.
> > > >
> > > > They will have the court to prosecute her for declaring Taiwan is
> > > > already an independent country.
> > > >
> > > > Her crime is treason against China. She should know Taiwan is the
> > > > territory of China.
> > > >
> > > > Since she is so manipulative in her appointment as president of Taiwan,
> > > > she should be jailed for 50 years or be executed instead. Period. \
> > > I like the very last selection: "be executed"!!!!
> > So you like the selection "PRC executes the elected (not appointed) president of Taiwan".
> >
> > What side would you be on if the US went to war over this?
> There is no "side" to choose over.
> It's way too one-sided in China's favor.
> As I have said many many times...
> We created instances to start a war against Vietnam. After 8 years of war and many thousands of deaths, the U.S. had to negotiate our way out of Vietnam.
> Again, in Afghanistan... and we had UN troops fighting on our side on both the Vietnam and Afghanistan wars...
> And China is a huge dragon... and more advanced weapons...
> Whatever roadblock we put up to stop China, China rolled through without noticing any obstacles...
> like nothing is there...
>
> Look out to our coast lines...
> Container ships are loaded with China-made products lining up to unload, and we can't even unload fast enough...
>
> China is beating us in every way....
> There is no choosing for any of us...

And BTW, my children, and my grandchildren can't even speak Chinese!!!!

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 by: bmoore - Sun, 31 Oct 2021 17:33 UTC

On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 9:39:00 AM UTC-7, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 12:10:59 PM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 11:29:04 AM UTC-7, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 11:15:32 AM UTC-7, loftie wrote:
> > > > On 28/10/2021 2:36 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 11:32:12 AM UTC-7, kico wrote:
> > > > >> On 27/10/2021 2:29 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > >>> Taiwan Tells Citizens 'Don't Be Dismayed' By WSJ Report on Low Troop Morale
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/taiwan-tells-citizens-don-t-be-dismayed-by-wsj-report-on-low-troop-morale/ar-AAPYtxl?ocid=msedgntp
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> The morale of Taiwan troops is indeed very low. The troop is scared.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Their national service conscription training of 4 months only, They
> > > > >> troops are low in morale.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Taiwan soldiers will run off like what the Afghanistan soldiers did.
> > > > >
> > > > > 24 million vs 1.4 billion!!!
> > > > > No need to fight.
> > > > > Just give it to China!!!
> > > > >
> > > > Taiwan people are now stocking up their foods and necessities for the
> > > > impending war between China and Taiwan.
> > > >
> > > > They know it is their wicked president Tsai that is playing war drum to
> > > > the world in order to draw her cries to the world, EU and US and others.
> > > >
> > > > They are going to skin her alive if she continues to put them on war
> > > > path with China.
> > > >
> > > > They will not vote her in the next election. After her stand down, they
> > > > will file charges on her.
> > > >
> > > > They will have the court to prosecute her for declaring Taiwan is
> > > > already an independent country.
> > > >
> > > > Her crime is treason against China. She should know Taiwan is the
> > > > territory of China.
> > > >
> > > > Since she is so manipulative in her appointment as president of Taiwan,
> > > > she should be jailed for 50 years or be executed instead. Period. \
> > > I like the very last selection: "be executed"!!!!
> > So you like the selection "PRC executes the elected (not appointed) president of Taiwan".
> >
> > What side would you be on if the US went to war over this?
> There is no "side" to choose over.
> It's way too one-sided in China's favor.
> As I have said many many times...
> We created instances to start a war against Vietnam. After 8 years of war and many thousands of deaths, the U.S. had to negotiate our way out of Vietnam.
> Again, in Afghanistan... and we had UN troops fighting on our side on both the Vietnam and Afghanistan wars...
> And China is a huge dragon... and more advanced weapons...
> Whatever roadblock we put up to stop China, China rolled through without noticing any obstacles...
> like nothing is there...
>
> Look out to our coast lines...
> Container ships are loaded with China-made products lining up to unload, and we can't even unload fast enough...
>
> China is beating us in every way....
> There is no choosing for any of us...

You already said you prefer the president of Taiwan to be executed. Sounds like you are rooting for The PRC to swallow Taiwan.

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On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 10:33:21 AM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 9:39:00 AM UTC-7, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 12:10:59 PM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
> > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 11:29:04 AM UTC-7, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 11:15:32 AM UTC-7, loftie wrote:
> > > > > On 28/10/2021 2:36 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 11:32:12 AM UTC-7, kico wrote:
> > > > > >> On 27/10/2021 2:29 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > > >>> Taiwan Tells Citizens 'Don't Be Dismayed' By WSJ Report on Low Troop Morale
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/taiwan-tells-citizens-don-t-be-dismayed-by-wsj-report-on-low-troop-morale/ar-AAPYtxl?ocid=msedgntp
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >> The morale of Taiwan troops is indeed very low. The troop is scared.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Their national service conscription training of 4 months only, They
> > > > > >> troops are low in morale.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Taiwan soldiers will run off like what the Afghanistan soldiers did.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 24 million vs 1.4 billion!!!
> > > > > > No need to fight.
> > > > > > Just give it to China!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > Taiwan people are now stocking up their foods and necessities for the
> > > > > impending war between China and Taiwan.
> > > > >
> > > > > They know it is their wicked president Tsai that is playing war drum to
> > > > > the world in order to draw her cries to the world, EU and US and others.
> > > > >
> > > > > They are going to skin her alive if she continues to put them on war
> > > > > path with China.
> > > > >
> > > > > They will not vote her in the next election. After her stand down, they
> > > > > will file charges on her.
> > > > >
> > > > > They will have the court to prosecute her for declaring Taiwan is
> > > > > already an independent country.
> > > > >
> > > > > Her crime is treason against China. She should know Taiwan is the
> > > > > territory of China.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since she is so manipulative in her appointment as president of Taiwan,
> > > > > she should be jailed for 50 years or be executed instead. Period. \
> > > > I like the very last selection: "be executed"!!!!
> > > So you like the selection "PRC executes the elected (not appointed) president of Taiwan".
> > >
> > > What side would you be on if the US went to war over this?
> > There is no "side" to choose over.
> > It's way too one-sided in China's favor.
> > As I have said many many times...
> > We created instances to start a war against Vietnam. After 8 years of war and many thousands of deaths, the U.S. had to negotiate our way out of Vietnam.
> > Again, in Afghanistan... and we had UN troops fighting on our side on both the Vietnam and Afghanistan wars...
> > And China is a huge dragon... and more advanced weapons...
> > Whatever roadblock we put up to stop China, China rolled through without noticing any obstacles...
> > like nothing is there...
> >
> > Look out to our coast lines...
> > Container ships are loaded with China-made products lining up to unload, and we can't even unload fast enough...
> >
> > China is beating us in every way....
> > There is no choosing for any of us...
> You already said you prefer the president of Taiwan to be executed. Sounds like you are rooting for The PRC to swallow Taiwan.

Face the facts...
China: 1.4 Billion people,
More hypersonic weapons than any other country
100 more warships than the U.S. and can build more faster than the U.S.

Taiwan: 24 million people,
Depends on U.S. for weapons, and the U.S. doesn't even have hypersonic weapons
Warships??? Depends on the U.S.

War with China will not be on China's soil. China can bomb anywhere around the world.

Do we really have a choice? China can take Taiwan anytime they want.

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On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 10:49:47 AM UTC-7, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 10:33:21 AM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 9:39:00 AM UTC-7, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 12:10:59 PM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 11:29:04 AM UTC-7, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 11:15:32 AM UTC-7, loftie wrote:
> > > > > > On 28/10/2021 2:36 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 11:32:12 AM UTC-7, kico wrote:
> > > > > > >> On 27/10/2021 2:29 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > > > >>> Taiwan Tells Citizens 'Don't Be Dismayed' By WSJ Report on Low Troop Morale
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/taiwan-tells-citizens-don-t-be-dismayed-by-wsj-report-on-low-troop-morale/ar-AAPYtxl?ocid=msedgntp
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >> The morale of Taiwan troops is indeed very low. The troop is scared.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Their national service conscription training of 4 months only, They
> > > > > > >> troops are low in morale.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Taiwan soldiers will run off like what the Afghanistan soldiers did.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 24 million vs 1.4 billion!!!
> > > > > > > No need to fight.
> > > > > > > Just give it to China!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Taiwan people are now stocking up their foods and necessities for the
> > > > > > impending war between China and Taiwan.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They know it is their wicked president Tsai that is playing war drum to
> > > > > > the world in order to draw her cries to the world, EU and US and others.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They are going to skin her alive if she continues to put them on war
> > > > > > path with China.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They will not vote her in the next election. After her stand down, they
> > > > > > will file charges on her.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They will have the court to prosecute her for declaring Taiwan is
> > > > > > already an independent country.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Her crime is treason against China. She should know Taiwan is the
> > > > > > territory of China.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since she is so manipulative in her appointment as president of Taiwan,
> > > > > > she should be jailed for 50 years or be executed instead. Period. \
> > > > > I like the very last selection: "be executed"!!!!
> > > > So you like the selection "PRC executes the elected (not appointed) president of Taiwan".
> > > >
> > > > What side would you be on if the US went to war over this?
> > > There is no "side" to choose over.
> > > It's way too one-sided in China's favor.
> > > As I have said many many times...
> > > We created instances to start a war against Vietnam. After 8 years of war and many thousands of deaths, the U.S. had to negotiate our way out of Vietnam.
> > > Again, in Afghanistan... and we had UN troops fighting on our side on both the Vietnam and Afghanistan wars...
> > > And China is a huge dragon... and more advanced weapons...
> > > Whatever roadblock we put up to stop China, China rolled through without noticing any obstacles...
> > > like nothing is there...
> > >
> > > Look out to our coast lines...
> > > Container ships are loaded with China-made products lining up to unload, and we can't even unload fast enough...
> > >
> > > China is beating us in every way....
> > > There is no choosing for any of us...
> > You already said you prefer the president of Taiwan to be executed. Sounds like you are rooting for The PRC to swallow Taiwan.
> Face the facts...
> China: 1.4 Billion people,
> More hypersonic weapons than any other country
> 100 more warships than the U.S. and can build more faster than the U.
>
> Taiwan: 24 million people,
> Depends on U.S. for weapons, and the U.S. doesn't even have hypersonic weapons
> Warships??? Depends on the U.S.
>
> War with China will not be on China's soil. China can bomb anywhere around the world.

Whatever.

> Do we really have a choice? China can take Taiwan anytime they want.

Either you prefer the PRC to swallow Taiwan, or you prefer the status quo. (I rather doubt you are pro-independence.)

If you prefer not to answer the question, that is your right. But you have already said that you prefer the Taiwanese president to be executed.

it's not hard to connect the dots....

You said "I like the very last selection: "be executed"!!!!".

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On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 11:42:37 AM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 10:49:47 AM UTC-7, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 10:33:21 AM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 9:39:00 AM UTC-7, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 12:10:59 PM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 11:29:04 AM UTC-7, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 11:15:32 AM UTC-7, loftie wrote:
> > > > > > > On 28/10/2021 2:36 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 11:32:12 AM UTC-7, kico wrote:
> > > > > > > >> On 27/10/2021 2:29 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> Taiwan Tells Citizens 'Don't Be Dismayed' By WSJ Report on Low Troop Morale
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/taiwan-tells-citizens-don-t-be-dismayed-by-wsj-report-on-low-troop-morale/ar-AAPYtxl?ocid=msedgntp
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >> The morale of Taiwan troops is indeed very low. The troop is scared.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Their national service conscription training of 4 months only, They
> > > > > > > >> troops are low in morale.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Taiwan soldiers will run off like what the Afghanistan soldiers did.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 24 million vs 1.4 billion!!!
> > > > > > > > No need to fight.
> > > > > > > > Just give it to China!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Taiwan people are now stocking up their foods and necessities for the
> > > > > > > impending war between China and Taiwan.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They know it is their wicked president Tsai that is playing war drum to
> > > > > > > the world in order to draw her cries to the world, EU and US and others.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They are going to skin her alive if she continues to put them on war
> > > > > > > path with China.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They will not vote her in the next election. After her stand down, they
> > > > > > > will file charges on her.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They will have the court to prosecute her for declaring Taiwan is
> > > > > > > already an independent country.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Her crime is treason against China. She should know Taiwan is the
> > > > > > > territory of China.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Since she is so manipulative in her appointment as president of Taiwan,
> > > > > > > she should be jailed for 50 years or be executed instead. Period. \
> > > > > > I like the very last selection: "be executed"!!!!
> > > > > So you like the selection "PRC executes the elected (not appointed) president of Taiwan".
> > > > >
> > > > > What side would you be on if the US went to war over this?
> > > > There is no "side" to choose over.
> > > > It's way too one-sided in China's favor.
> > > > As I have said many many times...
> > > > We created instances to start a war against Vietnam. After 8 years of war and many thousands of deaths, the U.S. had to negotiate our way out of Vietnam.
> > > > Again, in Afghanistan... and we had UN troops fighting on our side on both the Vietnam and Afghanistan wars...
> > > > And China is a huge dragon... and more advanced weapons...
> > > > Whatever roadblock we put up to stop China, China rolled through without noticing any obstacles...
> > > > like nothing is there...
> > > >
> > > > Look out to our coast lines...
> > > > Container ships are loaded with China-made products lining up to unload, and we can't even unload fast enough...
> > > >
> > > > China is beating us in every way....
> > > > There is no choosing for any of us...
> > > You already said you prefer the president of Taiwan to be executed. Sounds like you are rooting for The PRC to swallow Taiwan.
> > Face the facts...
> > China: 1.4 Billion people,
> > More hypersonic weapons than any other country
> > 100 more warships than the U.S. and can build more faster than the U.
> >
> > Taiwan: 24 million people,
> > Depends on U.S. for weapons, and the U.S. doesn't even have hypersonic weapons
> > Warships??? Depends on the U.S.
> >
> > War with China will not be on China's soil. China can bomb anywhere around the world.
> Whatever.
> > Do we really have a choice? China can take Taiwan anytime they want.
> Either you prefer the PRC to swallow Taiwan, or you prefer the status quo. (I rather doubt you are pro-independence.)

I prefer nothing. I read the news as it is today...

>
> If you prefer not to answer the question, that is your right. But you have already said that you prefer the Taiwanese president to be executed.

Executing her would save a lot of lives...

>
> it's not hard to connect the dots....

Oh!!! yeah, your mind is as crooked as possible...
>
> You said "I like the very last selection: "be executed"!!!!".

Yes, she should be executed before she causes war between these two sides...

I am a person who stays home and read the news on my computer, and express what I believe to be the truth.

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On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 2:58:35 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 1:15:32 PM UTC-5, loftie wrote:
> > On 28/10/2021 2:36 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 11:32:12 AM UTC-7, kico wrote:
> > >> On 27/10/2021 2:29 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > >>> Taiwan Tells Citizens 'Don't Be Dismayed' By WSJ Report on Low Troop Morale
> > >>>
> > >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/taiwan-tells-citizens-don-t-be-dismayed-by-wsj-report-on-low-troop-morale/ar-AAPYtxl?ocid=msedgntp
> > >>>
> > >> The morale of Taiwan troops is indeed very low. The troop is scared.
> > >>
> > >> Their national service conscription training of 4 months only, They
> > >> troops are low in morale.
> > >>
> > >> Taiwan soldiers will run off like what the Afghanistan soldiers did.
> > >
> > > 24 million vs 1.4 billion!!!
> > > No need to fight.
> > > Just give it to China!!!
> > >
> > Taiwan people are now stocking up their foods and necessities for the
> > impending war between China and Taiwan.
> Are they?
> Taiwan's stock market is doing well since the index reached its March 16, 2020 low of 8750.
> Currently, it stands at 17080.

For those who do not know Taiwan by reading Taiwan media:

Taiwan stock market would experience sudden fall if the PRC made
aggressive statement in response to Taiwan politicians making strong
independence claims. The press would then criticized those politicians
for their provocation.

Basically, most residents of Taiwan recognize and accept Taiwan's
situation. That is, 1) Taiwan, like any other place of the world, has a history,
it is a part of China according to this history. And 2) China, currently
represented by the PRC and the successor state of the ROC, would never
give up this claim.

At present, it is the implicit cross strait consensus as Taiwan residents know it
is "No independence, no unification by force. " That is as long as Taiwan does
not declare independence. PRC would not invade to reunify Taiwan by force.

The US is now playing the Taiwan card as a mean to block China's rise. And
Taiwan Independence leaders welcomes this America policy. But to average
residents of Taiwan, they are mostly spectators. Not necessarily the development
they want to see. But in the mean time, the risk PRC invasion is not imminent
from their point of view.

> >
> > They know it is their wicked president Tsai that is playing war drum to
> > the world in order to draw her cries to the world, EU and US and others.
> >
> > They are going to skin her alive if she continues to put them on war
> > path with China.
> >
> > They will not vote her in the next election. After her stand down, they
> > will file charges on her.
> >
> > They will have the court to prosecute her for declaring Taiwan is
> > already an independent country.
> >
> > Her crime is treason against China. She should know Taiwan is the
> > territory of China.
> >
> > Since she is so manipulative in her appointment as president of Taiwan,
> > she should be jailed for 50 years or be executed instead. Period. \

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On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 2:34:48 PM UTC-7, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 11:42:37 AM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 10:49:47 AM UTC-7, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 10:33:21 AM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 9:39:00 AM UTC-7, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 12:10:59 PM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 11:29:04 AM UTC-7, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 11:15:32 AM UTC-7, loftie wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 28/10/2021 2:36 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 11:32:12 AM UTC-7, kico wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> On 27/10/2021 2:29 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>> Taiwan Tells Citizens 'Don't Be Dismayed' By WSJ Report on Low Troop Morale
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/taiwan-tells-citizens-don-t-be-dismayed-by-wsj-report-on-low-troop-morale/ar-AAPYtxl?ocid=msedgntp
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >> The morale of Taiwan troops is indeed very low. The troop is scared.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Their national service conscription training of 4 months only, They
> > > > > > > > >> troops are low in morale.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Taiwan soldiers will run off like what the Afghanistan soldiers did.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 24 million vs 1.4 billion!!!
> > > > > > > > > No need to fight.
> > > > > > > > > Just give it to China!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Taiwan people are now stocking up their foods and necessities for the
> > > > > > > > impending war between China and Taiwan.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > They know it is their wicked president Tsai that is playing war drum to
> > > > > > > > the world in order to draw her cries to the world, EU and US and others.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > They are going to skin her alive if she continues to put them on war
> > > > > > > > path with China.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > They will not vote her in the next election. After her stand down, they
> > > > > > > > will file charges on her.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > They will have the court to prosecute her for declaring Taiwan is
> > > > > > > > already an independent country.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Her crime is treason against China. She should know Taiwan is the
> > > > > > > > territory of China.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Since she is so manipulative in her appointment as president of Taiwan,
> > > > > > > > she should be jailed for 50 years or be executed instead. Period. \
> > > > > > > I like the very last selection: "be executed"!!!!
> > > > > > So you like the selection "PRC executes the elected (not appointed) president of Taiwan".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What side would you be on if the US went to war over this?
> > > > > There is no "side" to choose over.
> > > > > It's way too one-sided in China's favor.
> > > > > As I have said many many times...
> > > > > We created instances to start a war against Vietnam. After 8 years of war and many thousands of deaths, the U.S. had to negotiate our way out of Vietnam.
> > > > > Again, in Afghanistan... and we had UN troops fighting on our side on both the Vietnam and Afghanistan wars...
> > > > > And China is a huge dragon... and more advanced weapons...
> > > > > Whatever roadblock we put up to stop China, China rolled through without noticing any obstacles...
> > > > > like nothing is there...
> > > > >
> > > > > Look out to our coast lines...
> > > > > Container ships are loaded with China-made products lining up to unload, and we can't even unload fast enough...
> > > > >
> > > > > China is beating us in every way....
> > > > > There is no choosing for any of us...
> > > > You already said you prefer the president of Taiwan to be executed. Sounds like you are rooting for The PRC to swallow Taiwan.
> > > Face the facts...
> > > China: 1.4 Billion people,
> > > More hypersonic weapons than any other country
> > > 100 more warships than the U.S. and can build more faster than the U.
> > >
> > > Taiwan: 24 million people,
> > > Depends on U.S. for weapons, and the U.S. doesn't even have hypersonic weapons
> > > Warships??? Depends on the U.S.
> > >
> > > War with China will not be on China's soil. China can bomb anywhere around the world.
> > Whatever.
> > > Do we really have a choice? China can take Taiwan anytime they want.
> > Either you prefer the PRC to swallow Taiwan, or you prefer the status quo. (I rather doubt you are pro-independence.)
> I prefer nothing. I read the news as it is today...
> >
> > If you prefer not to answer the question, that is your right. But you have already said that you prefer the Taiwanese president to be executed.
> Executing her would save a lot of lives...
> >
> > it's not hard to connect the dots....
> Oh!!! yeah, your mind is as crooked as possible...
> >
> > You said "I like the very last selection: "be executed"!!!!".
> Yes, she should be executed before she causes war between these two sides...

Nah, the blame for war would be on the invader.

> I am a person who stays home and read the news on my computer, and express what I believe to be the truth.

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On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 4:22:40 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 2:58:35 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 1:15:32 PM UTC-5, loftie wrote:
> > > On 28/10/2021 2:36 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 11:32:12 AM UTC-7, kico wrote:
> > > >> On 27/10/2021 2:29 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > >>> Taiwan Tells Citizens 'Don't Be Dismayed' By WSJ Report on Low Troop Morale
> > > >>>
> > > >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/taiwan-tells-citizens-don-t-be-dismayed-by-wsj-report-on-low-troop-morale/ar-AAPYtxl?ocid=msedgntp
> > > >>>
> > > >> The morale of Taiwan troops is indeed very low. The troop is scared.
> > > >>
> > > >> Their national service conscription training of 4 months only, They
> > > >> troops are low in morale.
> > > >>
> > > >> Taiwan soldiers will run off like what the Afghanistan soldiers did.
> > > >
> > > > 24 million vs 1.4 billion!!!
> > > > No need to fight.
> > > > Just give it to China!!!
> > > >
> > > Taiwan people are now stocking up their foods and necessities for the
> > > impending war between China and Taiwan.
> > Are they?
> > Taiwan's stock market is doing well since the index reached its March 16, 2020 low of 8750.
> > Currently, it stands at 17080.
> For those who do not know Taiwan by reading Taiwan media:
>
> Taiwan stock market would experience sudden fall if the PRC made
> aggressive statement in response to Taiwan politicians making strong
> independence claims. The press would then criticized those politicians
> for their provocation.
>
> Basically, most residents of Taiwan recognize and accept Taiwan's
> situation. That is, 1) Taiwan, like any other place of the world, has a history,
> it is a part of China according to this history. And 2) China, currently
> represented by the PRC and the successor state of the ROC, would never
> give up this claim.
>
> At present, it is the implicit cross strait consensus as Taiwan residents know it
> is "No independence, no unification by force. " That is as long as Taiwan does
> not declare independence. PRC would not invade to reunify Taiwan by force.
>
> The US is now playing the Taiwan card as a mean to block China's rise. And
> Taiwan Independence leaders welcomes this America policy. But to average
> residents of Taiwan, they are mostly spectators. Not necessarily the development
> they want to see. But in the mean time, the risk PRC invasion is not imminent
> from their point of view.

How do you know what average Taiwanese think?

> > > They know it is their wicked president Tsai that is playing war drum to
> > > the world in order to draw her cries to the world, EU and US and others.
> > >
> > > They are going to skin her alive if she continues to put them on war
> > > path with China.
> > >
> > > They will not vote her in the next election. After her stand down, they
> > > will file charges on her.
> > >
> > > They will have the court to prosecute her for declaring Taiwan is
> > > already an independent country.
> > >
> > > Her crime is treason against China. She should know Taiwan is the
> > > territory of China.
> > >
> > > Since she is so manipulative in her appointment as president of Taiwan,
> > > she should be jailed for 50 years or be executed instead. Period. \

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On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 7:41:34 PM UTC-5, bmoore wrote:
> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 4:22:40 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 2:58:35 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 1:15:32 PM UTC-5, loftie wrote:
> > > > On 28/10/2021 2:36 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 11:32:12 AM UTC-7, kico wrote:
> > > > >> On 27/10/2021 2:29 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > >>> Taiwan Tells Citizens 'Don't Be Dismayed' By WSJ Report on Low Troop Morale
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/taiwan-tells-citizens-don-t-be-dismayed-by-wsj-report-on-low-troop-morale/ar-AAPYtxl?ocid=msedgntp
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> The morale of Taiwan troops is indeed very low. The troop is scared.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Their national service conscription training of 4 months only, They
> > > > >> troops are low in morale.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Taiwan soldiers will run off like what the Afghanistan soldiers did.
> > > > >
> > > > > 24 million vs 1.4 billion!!!
> > > > > No need to fight.
> > > > > Just give it to China!!!
> > > > >
> > > > Taiwan people are now stocking up their foods and necessities for the
> > > > impending war between China and Taiwan.
> > > Are they?
> > > Taiwan's stock market is doing well since the index reached its March 16, 2020 low of 8750.
> > > Currently, it stands at 17080.
> > For those who do not know Taiwan by reading Taiwan media:
> >
> > Taiwan stock market would experience sudden fall if the PRC made
> > aggressive statement in response to Taiwan politicians making strong
> > independence claims. The press would then criticized those politicians
> > for their provocation.
> >
> > Basically, most residents of Taiwan recognize and accept Taiwan's
> > situation. That is, 1) Taiwan, like any other place of the world, has a history,
> > it is a part of China according to this history. And 2) China, currently
> > represented by the PRC and the successor state of the ROC, would never
> > give up this claim.
> >
> > At present, it is the implicit cross strait consensus as Taiwan residents know it
> > is "No independence, no unification by force. " That is as long as Taiwan does
> > not declare independence. PRC would not invade to reunify Taiwan by force.
> >
> > The US is now playing the Taiwan card as a mean to block China's rise. And
> > Taiwan Independence leaders welcomes this America policy. But to average
> > residents of Taiwan, they are mostly spectators. Not necessarily the development
> > they want to see. But in the mean time, the risk PRC invasion is not imminent
> > from their point of view.
> How do you know what average Taiwanese think?

Poll results and my conclusion after reading ROC news published in Taiwan over the years.
Poll results highly unsatisfactory toward Tsai government's "Two sides of the Strait" policy.
"根據一份網路民調顯示,有超過7成網友認為現在兩岸關係很差,超過6成網友對蔡政府的兩岸政策非常不滿意。
....
入口網站《YAHOO》以「你認為現在的兩岸關係如何?」為題,進行網路投票,投票時間為10月28日至31日,
截至30日晚間9點,已有1萬名網友票,結果顯示,認為很好的網友有3.3%,還可以5.5%,不太好14.8%,很差
73.7%,另外有2.7%網友沒表示明確意見。

蔡英文政府的兩岸政策的部分,有8.3%網友表示非常滿意,還算滿意的有8.1%,不太滿意的有13.7%,非常不
滿意66.2%,另外有3.7%網友沒表示明確意見;至於未來兩岸局勢的發展的部分,支持兩岸統一的網友有13.8%,
支持台灣獨立的有14%,認為應該維持現狀的有67.6%,另外有4.6%網友沒表示明確意見。"
https://www.chinatimes.com/realtimenews/20211030003710-260407?chdtv

> > > > They know it is their wicked president Tsai that is playing war drum to
> > > > the world in order to draw her cries to the world, EU and US and others.
> > > >
> > > > They are going to skin her alive if she continues to put them on war
> > > > path with China.
> > > >
> > > > They will not vote her in the next election. After her stand down, they
> > > > will file charges on her.
> > > >
> > > > They will have the court to prosecute her for declaring Taiwan is
> > > > already an independent country.
> > > >
> > > > Her crime is treason against China. She should know Taiwan is the
> > > > territory of China.
> > > >
> > > > Since she is so manipulative in her appointment as president of Taiwan,
> > > > she should be jailed for 50 years or be executed instead. Period. \

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On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 7:08:13 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 7:41:34 PM UTC-5, bmoore wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 4:22:40 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 2:58:35 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 1:15:32 PM UTC-5, loftie wrote:
> > > > > On 28/10/2021 2:36 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 11:32:12 AM UTC-7, kico wrote:
> > > > > >> On 27/10/2021 2:29 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > > > > >>> Taiwan Tells Citizens 'Don't Be Dismayed' By WSJ Report on Low Troop Morale
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/taiwan-tells-citizens-don-t-be-dismayed-by-wsj-report-on-low-troop-morale/ar-AAPYtxl?ocid=msedgntp
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >> The morale of Taiwan troops is indeed very low. The troop is scared.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Their national service conscription training of 4 months only, They
> > > > > >> troops are low in morale.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Taiwan soldiers will run off like what the Afghanistan soldiers did.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 24 million vs 1.4 billion!!!
> > > > > > No need to fight.
> > > > > > Just give it to China!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > Taiwan people are now stocking up their foods and necessities for the
> > > > > impending war between China and Taiwan.
> > > > Are they?
> > > > Taiwan's stock market is doing well since the index reached its March 16, 2020 low of 8750.
> > > > Currently, it stands at 17080.
> > > For those who do not know Taiwan by reading Taiwan media:
> > >
> > > Taiwan stock market would experience sudden fall if the PRC made
> > > aggressive statement in response to Taiwan politicians making strong
> > > independence claims. The press would then criticized those politicians
> > > for their provocation.
> > >
> > > Basically, most residents of Taiwan recognize and accept Taiwan's
> > > situation. That is, 1) Taiwan, like any other place of the world, has a history,
> > > it is a part of China according to this history. And 2) China, currently
> > > represented by the PRC and the successor state of the ROC, would never
> > > give up this claim.
> > >
> > > At present, it is the implicit cross strait consensus as Taiwan residents know it
> > > is "No independence, no unification by force. " That is as long as Taiwan does
> > > not declare independence. PRC would not invade to reunify Taiwan by force.
> > >
> > > The US is now playing the Taiwan card as a mean to block China's rise.. And
> > > Taiwan Independence leaders welcomes this America policy. But to average
> > > residents of Taiwan, they are mostly spectators. Not necessarily the development
> > > they want to see. But in the mean time, the risk PRC invasion is not imminent
> > > from their point of view.
> > How do you know what average Taiwanese think?
> Poll results and my conclusion after reading ROC news published in Taiwan over the years.

Gotta love that free Taiwanese press!

> Poll results highly unsatisfactory toward Tsai government's "Two sides of the Strait" policy.
> "根據一份網路民調顯示,有超過7成網友認為現在兩岸關係很差,超過6成網友對蔡政府的兩岸政策非常不滿意。
> ...
> 入口網站《YAHOO》以「你認為現在的兩岸關係如何?」為題,進行網路投票,投票時間為10月28日至31日,
> 截至30日晚間9點,已有1萬名網友票,結果顯示,認為很好的網友有3.3%,還可以5.5%,不太好14.8%,很差
> 73.7%,另外有2.7%網友沒表示明確意見。
>
> 蔡英文政府的兩岸政策的部分,有8.3%網友表示非常滿意,還算滿意的有8.1%,不太滿意的有13.7%,非常不
> 滿意66.2%,另外有3.7%網友沒表示明確意見;至於未來兩岸局勢的發展的部分,支持兩岸統一的網友有13.8%,
> 支持台灣獨立的有14%,認為應該維持現狀的有67.6%,另外有4.6%網友沒表示明確意見。"
> https://www.chinatimes.com/realtimenews/20211030003710-260407?chdtv
> > > > > They know it is their wicked president Tsai that is playing war drum to
> > > > > the world in order to draw her cries to the world, EU and US and others.
> > > > >
> > > > > They are going to skin her alive if she continues to put them on war
> > > > > path with China.
> > > > >
> > > > > They will not vote her in the next election. After her stand down, they
> > > > > will file charges on her.
> > > > >
> > > > > They will have the court to prosecute her for declaring Taiwan is
> > > > > already an independent country.
> > > > >
> > > > > Her crime is treason against China. She should know Taiwan is the
> > > > > territory of China.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since she is so manipulative in her appointment as president of Taiwan,
> > > > > she should be jailed for 50 years or be executed instead. Period. \


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