"Over the last two years, many foreign policy experts asked if Kabul would resemble the chaos of Saigon in 1975. It seems such questions about a war that cost thousands of American lives were fully warranted—and applying the lessons learned from both Vietnam and Afghanistan could prove fruitful when considering the possibility of the United States intervening militarily to defend Taiwan from China.

At its root, the causes of failure in both Vietnam and in Afghanistan have been essentially the same: the United States became embroiled in a civil war and ended up on the wrong side of nationalism, a force that proved impossible to tame, despite all the high technology of the U.S. military. The Taliban and the Vietcong had completely different ideologies, diametrically opposite in some respects, but their common plank was the desire to drive the foreign interlopers away.

Now, U.S. strategists are regrettably contemplating deepening U.S. involvement, already extensive, in yet another civil war. The Wall Street Journal revealed on October 7 that U.S. troops have been secretly in Taiwan for over a year."

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/skeptics/afghanistan-war-taiwan-unwinnable-195465

On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 11:59:50 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
> "Over the last two years, many foreign policy experts asked if Kabul would resemble the chaos of Saigon in 1975. It seems such questions about a war that cost thousands of American lives were fully warranted—and applying the lessons learned from both Vietnam and Afghanistan could prove fruitful when considering the possibility of the United States intervening militarily to defend Taiwan from China.

That would be very stupid for Uncle Sam. Taiwan is not defensible against China.

>
> At its root, the causes of failure in both Vietnam and in Afghanistan have been essentially the same: the United States became embroiled in a civil war and ended up on the wrong side of nationalism, a force that proved impossible to tame, despite all the high technology of the U.S. military. The Taliban and the Vietcong had completely different ideologies, diametrically opposite in some respects, but their common plank was the desire to drive the foreign interlopers away.

Not "completely different ideologies, diametrically opposite in some respects", you can not fight against nationalism in their home ground.

>
> Now, U.S. strategists are regrettably contemplating deepening U.S. involvement, already extensive, in yet another civil war. The Wall Street Journal revealed on October 7 that U.S. troops have been secretly in Taiwan for over a year."

Uncle Sam never learns. Uncle Sam kept banning his head against the same brick wall.

>
> https://nationalinterest.org/blog/skeptics/afghanistan-war-taiwan-unwinnable-195465

US never learns from its mistakes of war on countries in the past 40 years.
Most of the wars which they engaged were civil war and yet they lost at the
end of it.

It is silly of the US to think they can win war on civilians on the ground
in other countries when the nationalism in those people were so strong that
they cooperated and determined themselves to kill the foreign forces
instead.

"ltlee1" wrote in message
news:b0223783-f489-46b8-b8c3-4735d1eb705fn@googlegroups.com...

"Over the last two years, many foreign policy experts asked if Kabul would
resemble the chaos of Saigon in 1975. It seems such questions about a war
that cost thousands of American lives were fully warranted—and applying the
lessons learned from both Vietnam and Afghanistan could prove fruitful when
considering the possibility of the United States intervening militarily to
defend Taiwan from China.

At its root, the causes of failure in both Vietnam and in Afghanistan have
been essentially the same: the United States became embroiled in a civil war
and ended up on the wrong side of nationalism, a force that proved
impossible to tame, despite all the high technology of the U.S. military.
The Taliban and the Vietcong had completely different ideologies,
diametrically opposite in some respects, but their common plank was the
desire to drive the foreign interlopers away.

Now, U.S. strategists are regrettably contemplating deepening U.S.
involvement, already extensive, in yet another civil war. The Wall Street
Journal revealed on October 7 that U.S. troops have been secretly in Taiwan
for over a year."

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/skeptics/afghanistan-war-taiwan-unwinnable-195465

Or its success.
Between Siagon and Kabul, it had successfully intervene in Afghanistan
on the side of the people who were against then USSR interference.

At present, it is delusional about its own form democracy and associated
superiority.

On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 11:14:44 AM UTC, loewe wrote:
> US never learns from its mistakes of war on countries in the past 40 years.
> Most of the wars which they engaged were civil war and yet they lost at the
> end of it.
>
> It is silly of the US to think they can win war on civilians on the ground
> in other countries when the nationalism in those people were so strong that
> they cooperated and determined themselves to kill the foreign forces
> instead.
>
>
>
> "ltlee1" wrote in message
> news:b0223783-f489-46b8...@googlegroups.com...
> "Over the last two years, many foreign policy experts asked if Kabul would
> resemble the chaos of Saigon in 1975. It seems such questions about a war
> that cost thousands of American lives were fully warranted—and applying the
> lessons learned from both Vietnam and Afghanistan could prove fruitful when
> considering the possibility of the United States intervening militarily to
> defend Taiwan from China.
>
> At its root, the causes of failure in both Vietnam and in Afghanistan have
> been essentially the same: the United States became embroiled in a civil war
> and ended up on the wrong side of nationalism, a force that proved
> impossible to tame, despite all the high technology of the U.S. military.
> The Taliban and the Vietcong had completely different ideologies,
> diametrically opposite in some respects, but their common plank was the
> desire to drive the foreign interlopers away.
>
> Now, U.S. strategists are regrettably contemplating deepening U.S.
> involvement, already extensive, in yet another civil war. The Wall Street
> Journal revealed on October 7 that U.S. troops have been secretly in Taiwan
> for over a year."
>
> https://nationalinterest.org/blog/skeptics/afghanistan-war-taiwan-unwinnable-195465