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Re: Where is Ollie?

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On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 9:13:18 PM UTC-5, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I bet Welk is dead. But if he died I never heard about it. I guess he is with the angels doing the one and a ... up there.
> You're really going out on a limb with that one. Very bold and daring. You'll bet Welk is dead. Any other long shots you want to add to the list? John Wilkes Booth. Well, of course I'm being facetious with that one - but Welk would be pretty old if he were alive today. Saw him on the Jack Benny show the other night. Don't get excited, it was a rerun. Guys in those days usually looked older than they were. Manner of dress, etc. But if you look close - if we can get a close up of the face and it doesn't move - if we can study it in detail, only then can we really tell how old a person is. I remember Welk from before I was a teenager. He looked old to me. But he was probably in his 30s or 40s. That would put him in range for breaking the world's longest living human record. Gonna google it.
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> 1903 to 1992. I was about 10 first time I saw him. It was 1057. So at that time he would have been 54. Still pretty young. Today he would be 118 - I believe easily eclipsing the current record, whatever it is.
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> "Stay young my friend." -- Robert Young, 1951

1057? A typo? Or you are a time traveler. I had a time traveling dream the other night. I went back or forward in time to prevent my brother from being killed. It was wild. I like most dreams even when they suck.

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OllieN...@aol.com wrote:

> 1057? A typo? Or you are a time traveler. I had a time traveling dream the other night. I went back or forward in time to prevent my brother from being killed. It was wild. I like most dreams even when they suck.

I rarely read my posts before sending. But I do read them afterwards. I noticed the 1057 and wondered if you'd make something out of it. Mistakes have a way of bringing out accuracy historians as well as just general all round critics just waiting for a chance to pounce.

Oh yeah, I love dreams too. So much so that I just spent 5 days in bed. I am wheezing, choking on my own dust. Just walked uptown for some snacks for later and will be walking or taking the bus to the market because I am flat out of real food. I had a lot of wild dreams, some I tried to crawl back into without success. I have not slept more than 3 hours straight in decades. If I go two hours that's a long time. I wake up constantly, but I dream a lot. I can remember them only for a short time. I piss a lot - the old prostate, for which I intend to never see a doctor. I am feeling that way about lots of stuff - just letting it go.

I planned to walk to the market today but figure what the hell, after 5 days in bed why jump back into it? So I think I'll take the bus. I'm an extremist that way - many days in bed, then jump back into the walks. But the walks are getting harder because I'm doing them less. The weed doesn't help. I am a lazy fuck to begin with, but the weed really amps it up.

Yes, dreams are wild. I don't think a good wild dream can ever be accurately described - you have to tone it down some or add something to it to give it clarity. I still say the brain is a sponge. Everything that we see, hear, feel, or most importantly smell, goes in and stays there. Then when we sleep it all comes out to play. Was your brother killed in real life or was it just part of the dream? Reminds me, one of my favorite Twilight Zones was on the other night, but I was so bored in general I turned it off and tried to get back to the dreams. The dreams are great. I agree, even the bad ones are good. The Zone episode was the one with method actor Albert Salmi playing the only character he was good at playing - Southern or Country scum. Salmi was from New York. This was the episode where he plays a truly scummy character named Caswell who a group of citizens are getting ready to hang from a tree. When they whip the horse out the camera shows a shadow on the ground of an empty noose. He was snatched back in time by the guy who played the professor on Gilligan's Island. It was a very well edited episode, covered a lot of ground in half an hour. One of my favorites, especially when he goes into a bar and the juke box is driving him nuts and he smashes it to pieces. Then the bartender, instead of kicking him out, watches as Caswell is staring at the blank TV screen. "Well, don't you know what that is?", says the bartender. "It's a TV." Then he turns it on and it just happens to be a Western, some guy wearing chaps and low holstered gun standing in the middle of the street saying, "Ok partner, it's you and me", and Caswell thinks it's real, pulls out a gun he took from the Professor, who he knocked out in a tussle, and shoots the TV to pieces. I'm sure you saw it. I love they way they fit a lot of stuff in there in a short time, much the way I operate while posting to this group, or haven't you noticed?

So, did your brother actually get killed or was it just part of the dream?

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On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 12:15:23 PM UTC-5, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> OllieN...@aol.com wrote:
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> > 1057? A typo? Or you are a time traveler. I had a time traveling dream the other night. I went back or forward in time to prevent my brother from being killed. It was wild. I like most dreams even when they suck.
> I rarely read my posts before sending. But I do read them afterwards. I noticed the 1057 and wondered if you'd make something out of it. Mistakes have a way of bringing out accuracy historians as well as just general all round critics just waiting for a chance to pounce.
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> Oh yeah, I love dreams too. So much so that I just spent 5 days in bed. I am wheezing, choking on my own dust. Just walked uptown for some snacks for later and will be walking or taking the bus to the market because I am flat out of real food. I had a lot of wild dreams, some I tried to crawl back into without success. I have not slept more than 3 hours straight in decades. If I go two hours that's a long time. I wake up constantly, but I dream a lot. I can remember them only for a short time. I piss a lot - the old prostate, for which I intend to never see a doctor. I am feeling that way about lots of stuff - just letting it go.
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> I planned to walk to the market today but figure what the hell, after 5 days in bed why jump back into it? So I think I'll take the bus. I'm an extremist that way - many days in bed, then jump back into the walks. But the walks are getting harder because I'm doing them less. The weed doesn't help. I am a lazy fuck to begin with, but the weed really amps it up.
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> Yes, dreams are wild. I don't think a good wild dream can ever be accurately described - you have to tone it down some or add something to it to give it clarity. I still say the brain is a sponge. Everything that we see, hear, feel, or most importantly smell, goes in and stays there. Then when we sleep it all comes out to play. Was your brother killed in real life or was it just part of the dream? Reminds me, one of my favorite Twilight Zones was on the other night, but I was so bored in general I turned it off and tried to get back to the dreams. The dreams are great. I agree, even the bad ones are good. The Zone episode was the one with method actor Albert Salmi playing the only character he was good at playing - Southern or Country scum. Salmi was from New York. This was the episode where he plays a truly scummy character named Caswell who a group of citizens are getting ready to hang from a tree. When they whip the horse out the camera shows a shadow on the ground of an empty noose. He was snatched back in time by the guy who played the professor on Gilligan's Island. It was a very well edited episode, covered a lot of ground in half an hour. One of my favorites, especially when he goes into a bar and the juke box is driving him nuts and he smashes it to pieces. Then the bartender, instead of kicking him out, watches as Caswell is staring at the blank TV screen. "Well, don't you know what that is?", says the bartender. "It's a TV." Then he turns it on and it just happens to be a Western, some guy wearing chaps and low holstered gun standing in the middle of the street saying, "Ok partner, it's you and me", and Caswell thinks it's real, pulls out a gun he took from the Professor, who he knocked out in a tussle, and shoots the TV to pieces. I'm sure you saw it. I love they way they fit a lot of stuff in there in a short time, much the way I operate while posting to this group, or haven't you noticed?
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> So, did your brother actually get killed or was it just part of the dream?

He is alive. It was only a dream. A zither in the twilight realm, a wisp of fancy in my sub-conscious. I know the TZ you are referring to. Funny how you say he was a method actor but he only could play one kind of character. Shows it is BS.

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> So, did your brother actually get killed or was it just part of the dream?
> He is alive. It was only a dream. A zither in the twilight realm, a wisp of fancy in my sub-conscious. I know the TZ you are referring to. Funny how you say he was a method actor but he only could play one kind of character.. Shows it is BS.

I had seen the guy a number of times without knowing he was a method actor. I had never seen him play anything other than rural trash with a violent streak. The movie "Wild River" was one, the Twilight Zone episode was another. Then I saw him playing a New Yorker or some urban type and he really overdid it. It was bad. Then I saw him in a few other things and it was the same. He is not alone. I think most of the method actors that people go for are the ones who revert most often a comfortable character. Or they find it. Most people with jobs aren't given enough time to find out what they're good at. Either produce or get lost. But with some of these guys, I can see them acting big time, and it sucks. But then sometimes they'll play a character that seems to fit them. They play themselves sometimes. They go through a process where at first they resent being 'type cast' and insist on more diverse roles. Then they get the roles and overact the fuck out of them for years on end until finally one day when they're older the real them comes through. Anyway, I did not think of Salmi as a method actor until I saw him playing characters other than the rural scum he seems to play so well. They may not admit it, but I'll bet some of these guys look back on their early method work and cringe. They cringe all the way to the bank.

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On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 8:24:51 PM UTC-5, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > So, did your brother actually get killed or was it just part of the dream?
> > He is alive. It was only a dream. A zither in the twilight realm, a wisp of fancy in my sub-conscious. I know the TZ you are referring to. Funny how you say he was a method actor but he only could play one kind of character. Shows it is BS.
> I had seen the guy a number of times without knowing he was a method actor. I had never seen him play anything other than rural trash with a violent streak. The movie "Wild River" was one, the Twilight Zone episode was another. Then I saw him playing a New Yorker or some urban type and he really overdid it. It was bad. Then I saw him in a few other things and it was the same. He is not alone. I think most of the method actors that people go for are the ones who revert most often a comfortable character. Or they find it. Most people with jobs aren't given enough time to find out what they're good at. Either produce or get lost. But with some of these guys, I can see them acting big time, and it sucks. But then sometimes they'll play a character that seems to fit them. They play themselves sometimes. They go through a process where at first they resent being 'type cast' and insist on more diverse roles. Then they get the roles and overact the fuck out of them for years on end until finally one day when they're older the real them comes through. Anyway, I did not think of Salmi as a method actor until I saw him playing characters other than the rural scum he seems to play so well. They may not admit it, but I'll bet some of these guys look back on their early method work and cringe. They cringe all the way to the bank.

Acting is a form of bumming. Just words. Nothing for real is given by these fakers. If all the actors died today tomorrow would see just as good or better.

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> Acting is a form of bumming. Just words. Nothing for real is given by these fakers. If all the actors died today tomorrow would see just as good or better.

Yes, without question definitely at least as good - and if I'm still alive, for sure even better. Ok, if you're alive too. I'll include you because you said you were a good actor and I'm taking your word for it because I think you're an honest guy. But I can't trust you all the way. I can't trust anybody to that level. I mean, come on, we're only human. But for now I'll include you along with myself. Then I'll go even further and totally agree with you that there would be no drop off in talent, the level of talent would grow - even without you and me in the mix. The level of talent would grow because the wimpy offspring of nepotism will be gone. Scum of all sorts might take their place, leaving us out of the picture once again (thank God!) - but it they will be superior to the assholes they replaced. And they too in time shall be replaced. "And believe me, people - we will do it over and over again, until we fucking get it right. Now come on, let's get on the ball here. Good God!"

"Ok, take 2,056! Roll 'em."

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 by: OllieNorthie@aol.com - Wed, 1 Dec 2021 01:15 UTC

On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 10:01:43 PM UTC-5, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Acting is a form of bumming. Just words. Nothing for real is given by these fakers. If all the actors died today tomorrow would see just as good or better.
> Yes, without question definitely at least as good - and if I'm still alive, for sure even better. Ok, if you're alive too. I'll include you because you said you were a good actor and I'm taking your word for it because I think you're an honest guy. But I can't trust you all the way. I can't trust anybody to that level. I mean, come on, we're only human. But for now I'll include you along with myself. Then I'll go even further and totally agree with you that there would be no drop off in talent, the level of talent would grow - even without you and me in the mix. The level of talent would grow because the wimpy offspring of nepotism will be gone. Scum of all sorts might take their place, leaving us out of the picture once again (thank God!) - but it they will be superior to the assholes they replaced. And they too in time shall be replaced. "And believe me, people - we will do it over and over again, until we fucking get it right. Now come on, let's get on the ball here. Good God!"
>
> "Ok, take 2,056! Roll 'em."

I don't think I would be a leading man. Maybe the friend of the leading man. I could play the killer. Unless the killer is the lead.

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> I don't think I would be a leading man. Maybe the friend of the leading man. I could play the killer. Unless the killer is the lead.

When I first went to Hollywood at age 21 I was quite bold and also quite dumb. One of my early apartments in Hollywood was on Gordon St. There was a small studio there, maybe an offshoot of a larger one nearby. Kind of quaint though. I was looking at the world through small eyes, and the world looked small to me. I thought this was it. Destiny. In the cards. Why else would God see fit to find me an apartment so close to a movie studio?

One day I walked into the studio's office asking to see the top man. I forget which term I used - "Head honcho, top gun, the big cheese, whatever. I walked up to the secretary at her desk and asked to see the top guy.

She asked the usual question, why do I want to see him, who am I, etc. I told her I am an unknown but I have a ton of talent. Then I told her that I just learned I have terminal cancer and don't care if I get hired or not, and if not it's their loss, not mine. I also told her if they turn me down - knowing I'm already dead with nothing to lose - I could go berserk. I said this with a smile on my face that anyone could tell represented a non violent inner head. I do not believe they were scared, but I'll never really know. I used to do this kind of stuff all the time, spur of the moment, just walking by, a sudden idea. I was usually with a friend when I did such things, but at the Gordon studio I was alone.

Your post reminded me of it, your snobbish presentation, your resume along with a small but firm set of demands for whoever hires you. At least you're letting them know ahead of time.

"Sure", you tell them, "lots of guys come through these doors saying they'll do anything, play any part - and then when they're hired it's something else entirely, they start demanding everything their way or no way at all. I am not like those guys. I am telling you upfront what I will and will not do", before handing them a list of your demands, which I do not find out of line at all. You are not asking much. At our production company we could have you play your own chosen characters in the same movie. You will be the friend of the leading man. Later you kill the leading man out of jealousy and because he was ordering you around too much. Now you are the killer. First the friend of the leading man, then his killer. The leading man is a killer. Or was. Now you inherit his spot. From now on all your roles will be that of a leading man killer who gets killed by a bit player.

"The bit player who kills the leading man knows fame the leading man could only imagine." - Gandhi, 1927

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On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:34:01 PM UTC-5, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I don't think I would be a leading man. Maybe the friend of the leading man. I could play the killer. Unless the killer is the lead.
> When I first went to Hollywood at age 21 I was quite bold and also quite dumb. One of my early apartments in Hollywood was on Gordon St. There was a small studio there, maybe an offshoot of a larger one nearby. Kind of quaint though. I was looking at the world through small eyes, and the world looked small to me. I thought this was it. Destiny. In the cards. Why else would God see fit to find me an apartment so close to a movie studio?
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> One day I walked into the studio's office asking to see the top man. I forget which term I used - "Head honcho, top gun, the big cheese, whatever. I walked up to the secretary at her desk and asked to see the top guy.
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> She asked the usual question, why do I want to see him, who am I, etc. I told her I am an unknown but I have a ton of talent. Then I told her that I just learned I have terminal cancer and don't care if I get hired or not, and if not it's their loss, not mine. I also told her if they turn me down - knowing I'm already dead with nothing to lose - I could go berserk. I said this with a smile on my face that anyone could tell represented a non violent inner head. I do not believe they were scared, but I'll never really know. I used to do this kind of stuff all the time, spur of the moment, just walking by, a sudden idea. I was usually with a friend when I did such things, but at the Gordon studio I was alone.
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> Your post reminded me of it, your snobbish presentation, your resume along with a small but firm set of demands for whoever hires you. At least you're letting them know ahead of time.
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> "Sure", you tell them, "lots of guys come through these doors saying they'll do anything, play any part - and then when they're hired it's something else entirely, they start demanding everything their way or no way at all. I am not like those guys. I am telling you upfront what I will and will not do", before handing them a list of your demands, which I do not find out of line at all. You are not asking much. At our production company we could have you play your own chosen characters in the same movie. You will be the friend of the leading man. Later you kill the leading man out of jealousy and because he was ordering you around too much. Now you are the killer. First the friend of the leading man, then his killer. The leading man is a killer. Or was. Now you inherit his spot. From now on all your roles will be that of a leading man killer who gets killed by a bit player.
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> "The bit player who kills the leading man knows fame the leading man could only imagine." - Gandhi, 1927

Gandhi spent time in Hollywood in the roaring 20's. Hard to believe that is a 100 years ago now. He use to hang with the biggest stars Chaplin, Fairbanks, Valentino. He liked sucking Valentinos balls. He did some background extra type roles in over a 100 films. His signature was that turban he wore. He could also cross his eyes like that Ben guy.

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> Gandhi spent time in Hollywood in the roaring 20's. Hard to believe that is a 100 years ago now. He use to hang with the biggest stars Chaplin, Fairbanks, Valentino. He liked sucking Valentinos balls. He did some background extra type roles in over a 100 films. His signature was that turban he wore. He could also cross his eyes like that Ben guy.

Hollywood legend has it that the child actor Sabu was Gandhi's son. Gandhi's fame got his son into the movies. Then his son got him into the movies. Yes, he was used chiefly as an extra in many famous films including Shangri-La where he filled in for Sam Jaffe in some of the rougher scenes. He took many chances as a part time actor - risks he did not have to take. But his name is Gandhi, he's not just your average Joe off the fucking street. He played a snake charmer in many films. Very few speaking roles. He was bit several times playing such roles yet never complained and always came back ready for more. There is a lot people don't know about Gandhi beyond his famous quotes. It is time for today's young scum to learn more about the greats who came before them and helped make their lives as easy as they are in these otherwise difficult unprecedented times.

Yeah, the Ben guy. Ben Blue was it? Very obviously Jewish. But the last thing I want to do is get on a guy just for that.

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On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 7:47:43 PM UTC-5, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Gandhi spent time in Hollywood in the roaring 20's. Hard to believe that is a 100 years ago now. He use to hang with the biggest stars Chaplin, Fairbanks, Valentino. He liked sucking Valentinos balls. He did some background extra type roles in over a 100 films. His signature was that turban he wore. He could also cross his eyes like that Ben guy.
> Hollywood legend has it that the child actor Sabu was Gandhi's son. Gandhi's fame got his son into the movies. Then his son got him into the movies. Yes, he was used chiefly as an extra in many famous films including Shangri-La where he filled in for Sam Jaffe in some of the rougher scenes. He took many chances as a part time actor - risks he did not have to take. But his name is Gandhi, he's not just your average Joe off the fucking street. He played a snake charmer in many films. Very few speaking roles. He was bit several times playing such roles yet never complained and always came back ready for more. There is a lot people don't know about Gandhi beyond his famous quotes. It is time for today's young scum to learn more about the greats who came before them and helped make their lives as easy as they are in these otherwise difficult unprecedented times.
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> Yeah, the Ben guy. Ben Blue was it? Very obviously Jewish. But the last thing I want to do is get on a guy just for that.

I been checking out old movie serials on youtube. I watched the opening for one and the credits were Buck the Wonder Dog and Lightning the Wonder horse. Decided it was not for me.

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> I been checking out old movie serials on youtube. I watched the opening for one and the credits were Buck the Wonder Dog and Lightning the Wonder horse. Decided it was not for me.

I was a really young kid when the serials were still going on. Never saw many of them except in repeat. Boston Blackie was a serial, wasn't it? I never cared for it. Something entrapping about it, too much commitment to have to come back next week to catch the next episode. With Breaking Bad I liked it though. But that's a different thing. I was never much into the Super hero shit either. To me it was Superman and that was where it ended.

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 by: OllieNorthie@aol.com - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 04:23 UTC

On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 8:43:40 PM UTC-5, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I been checking out old movie serials on youtube. I watched the opening for one and the credits were Buck the Wonder Dog and Lightning the Wonder horse. Decided it was not for me.
> I was a really young kid when the serials were still going on. Never saw many of them except in repeat. Boston Blackie was a serial, wasn't it? I never cared for it. Something entrapping about it, too much commitment to have to come back next week to catch the next episode. With Breaking Bad I liked it though. But that's a different thing. I was never much into the Super hero shit either. To me it was Superman and that was where it ended.

Well the serials can at least be seen all at once and not take weeks. I am watching one on Netflix called Cowboy Bepop. I am 2 into in it. Will I watch all of them? Wait till next week to find out.

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> Well the serials can at least be seen all at once and not take weeks. I am watching one on Netflix called Cowboy Bepop. I am 2 into in it. Will I watch all of them? Wait till next week to find out.

Cowboy Bepop - a great show. I couldn't stop watching it. But I was conflicted because I had already taped so much other shit I had promised to watch, so I never caught all the episodes. I don't want new TV shows, I want a new TV. And someone to pay for repairs when needed. I'm still a MeTv guy.. I will go for other stuff but never chase anything. It must come to me.

"And though I race to it with fury and longing and great zeal, in the end I know it must come to me."

Gandhi - 1923

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 by: OllieNorthie@aol.com - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 02:41 UTC

On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 12:33:50 AM UTC-5, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Well the serials can at least be seen all at once and not take weeks. I am watching one on Netflix called Cowboy Bepop. I am 2 into in it. Will I watch all of them? Wait till next week to find out.
> Cowboy Bepop - a great show. I couldn't stop watching it. But I was conflicted because I had already taped so much other shit I had promised to watch, so I never caught all the episodes. I don't want new TV shows, I want a new TV. And someone to pay for repairs when needed. I'm still a MeTv guy. I will go for other stuff but never chase anything. It must come to me.
>
> "And though I race to it with fury and longing and great zeal, in the end I know it must come to me."
>
> Gandhi - 1923

So much shit on TV people are watching shit that was on TV when there was nothing else to watch.

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> So much shit on TV people are watching shit that was on TV when there was nothing else to watch.

Yeah, there's way more than enough shit on TV and most of it sucks and I don't care and in fact see it as a luxury of sorts to be able to turn on the box and bitch and moan all day about what they're giving me. Now that is luxury. I used to bitch about not enough good stuff on TV. But as you say, the old stuff is still around. Even the old stuff I don't care for, I give it credit for standing the test of time. I suppose any show that keeps getting rerun for decades has something about it that appeals to people. The test of time is where it's at. But now we're running out of time. So we're going to have to give the tests now, today. Put the shows in a time machine and see how they do 30 years from now. If they don't do well, toss them. We need time machines. Not to travel ourselves to other times, but to send out stuff and get stuff back - to peer into the future especially, to see what's coming, and to "By Fucking God Be Ready For It."

"As always they shall be ready for things that never happen, but unready for things that do." - Gandhi, 1999

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 by: OllieNorthie@aol.com - Thu, 9 Dec 2021 00:23 UTC

On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 1:00:13 AM UTC-5, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > So much shit on TV people are watching shit that was on TV when there was nothing else to watch.
> Yeah, there's way more than enough shit on TV and most of it sucks and I don't care and in fact see it as a luxury of sorts to be able to turn on the box and bitch and moan all day about what they're giving me. Now that is luxury. I used to bitch about not enough good stuff on TV. But as you say, the old stuff is still around. Even the old stuff I don't care for, I give it credit for standing the test of time. I suppose any show that keeps getting rerun for decades has something about it that appeals to people. The test of time is where it's at. But now we're running out of time. So we're going to have to give the tests now, today. Put the shows in a time machine and see how they do 30 years from now. If they don't do well, toss them. We need time machines. Not to travel ourselves to other times, but to send out stuff and get stuff back - to peer into the future especially, to see what's coming, and to "By Fucking God Be Ready For It."
>
> "As always they shall be ready for things that never happen, but unready for things that do." - Gandhi, 1999

I think they are desperate to get cloning to work so they can clone up the actors of old to make new movies. The current generation is letting us down. Alec Baldwin may be in Jail soon then the end will be here.

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> I think they are desperate to get cloning to work so they can clone up the actors of old to make new movies. The current generation is letting us down. Alec Baldwin may be in Jail soon then the end will be here.

Good acting is not a necessity today. Every so often I'll surf through the network stations, all the CSI and Law and Order shit, just to grab a minute or two of it, and it's absolutely incredible how obviously untalented these people are. I mean, you can't hear what they're saying. They all talk with the same monotone voice. Mostly cop shit. Lots of females and people of color. I know people who actually like that crap. Incredible. The worse the productions get, the less good acting is needed. Maybe that's good.. Either way I won't be part of it because I'm a re-run guy. There are exceptions, but mostly I stick to something an older guy once told me, laughing even though he sort of meant it: "I won't watch anything if I haven't seen it before." He knew it sounded funny and old fogeyish and was perhaps not 100% true, but it's true enough for me.

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On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 1:42:10 AM UTC-5, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I think they are desperate to get cloning to work so they can clone up the actors of old to make new movies. The current generation is letting us down. Alec Baldwin may be in Jail soon then the end will be here.
> Good acting is not a necessity today. Every so often I'll surf through the network stations, all the CSI and Law and Order shit, just to grab a minute or two of it, and it's absolutely incredible how obviously untalented these people are. I mean, you can't hear what they're saying. They all talk with the same monotone voice. Mostly cop shit. Lots of females and people of color. I know people who actually like that crap. Incredible. The worse the productions get, the less good acting is needed. Maybe that's good. Either way I won't be part of it because I'm a re-run guy. There are exceptions, but mostly I stick to something an older guy once told me, laughing even though he sort of meant it: "I won't watch anything if I haven't seen it before." He knew it sounded funny and old fogeyish and was perhaps not 100% true, but it's true enough for me.

Everything is colored and diverse now. Are they trying to cover up whitey? Or is this the true makeup of the country now? It is getting very blended. Lots of half and halfs.

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> Everything is colored and diverse now. Are they trying to cover up whitey? Or is this the true makeup of the country now? It is getting very blended.. Lots of half and half.

There is no diversity, not really - not as "they" say. A few months ago I read about a movie being directed by a woman and starring only women. She was applauded for her diversity. I am sure most of this shit comes from people looking for leadership positions of some kind. And none of them care. And I don't care that they don't care. I only care that they won't admit it. These sleazy frauds are everywhere, all pretense, claiming to be for openness and diversity and total inclusion, etc., when secretly they are licking their chops waiting for something bad to happen to one of their people so they can pick up the banner and feel important in their own small way. If they were really diverse they wouldn't have to be talking about it all the time. People don't hang around for millions of years and suddenly over night find togetherness. I guess every new egotistical generation thinks they are the first to do something when really on some level it's all been done before.

Yo, been there, done that!

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 by: OllieNorthie@aol.com - Tue, 14 Dec 2021 05:53 UTC

On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 6:44:16 PM UTC-5, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Everything is colored and diverse now. Are they trying to cover up whitey? Or is this the true makeup of the country now? It is getting very blended. Lots of half and half.
>
> There is no diversity, not really - not as "they" say. A few months ago I read about a movie being directed by a woman and starring only women. She was applauded for her diversity. I am sure most of this shit comes from people looking for leadership positions of some kind. And none of them care. And I don't care that they don't care. I only care that they won't admit it. These sleazy frauds are everywhere, all pretense, claiming to be for openness and diversity and total inclusion, etc., when secretly they are licking their chops waiting for something bad to happen to one of their people so they can pick up the banner and feel important in their own small way. If they were really diverse they wouldn't have to be talking about it all the time. People don't hang around for millions of years and suddenly over night find togetherness. I guess every new egotistical generation thinks they are the first to do something when really on some level it's all been done before.
>
> Yo, been there, done that!

I don't see any combination of sex and color to mean anything other than pandering. If the story is good than nothing matters. If the story is bad nothing matters.

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> I don't see any combination of sex and color to mean anything other than pandering. If the story is good than nothing matters. If the story is bad nothing matters.

I agree but feel there are exceptions such as people growing up in already integrated mostly poor areas where everybody has a little bit of something different popping out of them somewhere - a big square jawed nappy head on white guy pencil pusher body - big lips on an otherwise thin white face - and even some Blacks wearing bow ties. If there is genuine integration it didn't come on purpose but it can exist in poor areas where gangs made up of guys with varied hues and features vie against each other to prove that their mixed heritage is superior to the point of getting extra mean when they get an enemy gang member down just to show the other members of his crew how tough his ancestors were.

"Lest we motha fucking forget."

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 by: OllieNorthie@aol.com - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 03:37 UTC

On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 6:47:42 PM UTC-5, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I don't see any combination of sex and color to mean anything other than pandering. If the story is good than nothing matters. If the story is bad nothing matters.
> I agree but feel there are exceptions such as people growing up in already integrated mostly poor areas where everybody has a little bit of something different popping out of them somewhere - a big square jawed nappy head on white guy pencil pusher body - big lips on an otherwise thin white face - and even some Blacks wearing bow ties. If there is genuine integration it didn't come on purpose but it can exist in poor areas where gangs made up of guys with varied hues and features vie against each other to prove that their mixed heritage is superior to the point of getting extra mean when they get an enemy gang member down just to show the other members of his crew how tough his ancestors were.
>
> "Lest we motha fucking forget."

Lot of mulatto kids these days. Black dads and white moms mostly. The true mullatto is dad white and mom black from when white men ruled the roost.

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> Lot of mulatto kids these days. Black dads and white moms mostly. The true mullatto is dad white and mom black from when white men ruled the roost.

I responded to this and the computer crashed and all was lost. Were the mulattos behind it? Every so often I'll see a Black athlete being interviewed and his father is white and his mother is Black and I'd never have guessed it. Sometimes with such racial extremes it takes more than one or two generations to get a good blend going. But you are correct. When we think of Black/White procreation we do tend to think Daddy Black and Mommy White, don't we? Why? Why do we do that? When will we outgrow our prejudice and move forward for the good of all mankind. In the name of Trayvon Martin, when?

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I think they are desperate to get cloning to work so they can clone up the
actors of old to make new movies. The current generation is letting us
down. Alec Baldwin may be in Jail soon then the end will be here.

EVERYONE KNOWS THAT OLLIENORTHIE DOESN'T EXIST, HE IS JUST ANOTHER
SOCK-PUPPET
LIKE THOMAS JOSEPH. YOU BOTH FUCKER WRITE EXACTLY THE SAME AND POST THINGS
EXACTLY AT THE SAME TIME AS EACH OTHER.

it must be deep shit that you have to invent and create totally fake people
on the internet to
talk to them. you are one of the most laughable faggots around, you being
bed-ridden and
too weak to even get out of bed because you are on psycho meds and dying of
a.i.d.s

DO EVERYONE A FAVOR AND KILL YOURSELF YOU COCKSUCKER FAGGOT!

SHUT THE FUCK UP!
S.T.F.U.

FINKELSTEIN + SMILKSTEIN — [Missing Children]
CHILD SACRIFICE: McDONALD'S CONTAINS HUMAN FLESH

———————————————————————————————

BOZO SMILKSTEIN (bosodeniro@gmail.com)
UNIT 8200 MOSSAD TALPIOT INTERNET TROLL.
FAKED HIS OWN DEATH.

ARCHETYPE: DEMON POSSESSED

https://www.hfunderground.com/wiki/images/thumb/3/3c/Bozo_fest.jpg/300px-Bozo_fest.jpg

YOU SATAN KIKE !

————————————————————————————————

NOW 8 NEWS ——► McDONALD'S® CONTAIN HUMAN FLESH — SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN

“We take the children of the enemy, which is the white race,
we bring them to the basements of the synagogues where we
drain them, similar to kosher butchering. Then we send them
off to the meat grinders, where they end up in the McDonald’s
hamburgers and sausages.”

—— RABBI FINKELSTEIN

McDONALD'S CONTAIN HUMAN FLESH ?
Disturbing Audio / Video Admission

Posted By: Now8News

https://now8news.com/mcdonalds-contains-human-flesh/

There is a very disturbing audio interview between James Wickstrom and Rabbi
Finkelstein concerning the practices of the meat used at McDonald’s. Now
people can debate this all they want – whether or not McDonald’s uses 100%
pure ground beef. But you cannot deny this audio interview below where Rabbi
Finkelstein admits to bloodletting sacrifices, and that they are linked to
missing children. This interview is absolutely horrifying.

Rabbi Finkelstein Explains What Happens To The Missing White
Children In America During Passover, And All Year Round !

McDonald's Hamburgers And Sausages Made From Human Flesh !

FINKELSTEIN VIDEOS:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=JEWS+MCDONALDS&docid=608017436275184838&mid=59DD2D0F2F2CFB3F635759DD2D0F2F2CFB3F6357&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

Rabbi Finkelstein says that their tradition of blood sacrifice has been
going on for thousands and thousands of years. “We take the children of the
enemy, which is the white race, we bring them to the basements of the
synagogues where we drain them, similar to kosher butchering. Then we send
them off to the meat grinders, where they end up in the McDonald’s
hamburgers and sausages.”

He explains that these children are sent to meat grinder facilities and sold
off to McDonald’s for a profit. Since most of these meat grinding facilities
are by the Mexican border line, many of the employees are illegal immigrants
and are willing to keep their mouths closed about this information because
they are making a good living to send home to their families.

Rabbi Finkelstein has no problem telling the interviewer, “You are eating
your children every day”. What kind of disturbing sick world do we live in
where this could be acceptable to even one human being.

ARIEL TOAFF'S BOOK
https://bloodpassover.com/xbp.pdf

HONOURED JEWISH HISTORIAN

ARIEL TOAFF: PASSOVER RITUAL MATZOS
TRADITION OF CONTAINING
CHRISTIAN CHILDREN'S BLOOD

MATZOS CONTAINING
CHRISTIAN CHILDREN'S BLOOD
'Hanging Christian Children Upside-Down
And Slitting Their Throats'

ARIEL TOAFF'S BOOK:
'BLOOD PASSOVER'
COMPLETE \ ONLINE:
https://bloodpassover.com/xbp.pdf

BLOOD PASSOVER BOOK
EXCERPTS:

Chapter VI

"Reading the depositions of defendants accused of ritual child
murder with relation to the utilization of blood, one is left with
the clear impression that, rather than explain the need for the
blood of a Christian child, the defendants were attempting to
provide a description of the wonderful therapeutic and
magical properties of blood generally, and of blood extracted
from children and young persons in particular.

All the cases examined above, and in a great number of those
present in the compendiums of the segullot, remedies and
secret medications, drawn up and disseminated by the masters
of the practical Cabballah.

The ritual responses of the Gheonim, the heads of the rabbinical
academies of Babylon, active between the VII and XI centuries,
refer to the local custom of boiling perfumes and spices in water,
thus rendering them fragrant and odorous, and of circumcising
children, making their blood gush into that liquid until the
colors were mixed. "It is at this point", the rabbinical response
continues, "that all the young males wash Themselves in that
water, in memory of the blood of the pact, which has united
God to our patriarch Abraham"

In this rite, of a propitiatory nature, the blood from the
circumcision wound, united with the sweet-smelling potion,
is said to have possessed the ability to transform itself into a
potent aphrodisiac, used in curative electuaries, beneficial in
lending vigor to amorous desires and to the procreative
abilities of initiated males.

One could at this point conclude that the use of the powdered
blood of children, and especially Christian blood, as a haemostatic
during circumcision, In view of the disinterest in its regard shown
even by converted Jews, on other points inclined to defame
Judaism, is a chimera and a tendentious invention, either of
the inquisitors, obsessed with blood, or of Jews themselves,
terrorized by torture and slavishly eager to placate their
tormenters. But this would be erroneous and misleading."


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