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* Re: carcase vs. carcassPeter Dickason
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 by: Peter Dickason - Mon, 31 Jan 2022 18:34 UTC

> Carcase is what the kids keep Hot Wheels in; carcass is the dead
> opussum on the yellow center line of the roadway ;-)

That's what a car case is to me. In my 53 years of life I have never before seen the word 'carcase'. I had to google it and still it wasn't obvious. Finally, I determined the word they meant was carcass and that some references say they are interchangeable. Great. This is why I hate the English language and why I was never good at it in school. There is no logic to it whatsoever and basically derived from the drunken hoards of the middle ages.

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 by: Eli the Bearded - Mon, 31 Jan 2022 20:16 UTC

In rec.woodworking, Peter Dickason <gurupeterd@gmail.com> wrote:
> In my 53 years of life I have never before seen the word 'carcase'. I
> had to google it and still it wasn't obvious. Finally, I determined
> the word they meant was carcass and that some references say they are
> interchangeable. Great. This is why I hate the English language and
> why I was never good at it in school. There is no logic to it
> whatsoever and basically derived from the drunken hoards of the middle
> ages.

Old English loved a good compound word, like German does today.
"Word-hoard" has been used as a modern version of what Old English would
use to describe a vocabulary (or a dictionary). I've seen "word-hoard"
used in translations of _Beowolf_ for example.

But to really bring your point home, the hordes were drunk, not the
hoards. :^)

Elijah
------
carcase = carnal (flesh) + case (box)

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 by: Leon - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 20:29 UTC

On 1/31/2022 12:34 PM, Peter Dickason wrote:
>> Carcase is what the kids keep Hot Wheels in; carcass is the dead
>> opussum on the yellow center line of the roadway ;-)
>
> That's what a car case is to me. In my 53 years of life I have never before seen the word 'carcase'. I had to google it and still it wasn't obvious. Finally, I determined the word they meant was carcass and that some references say they are interchangeable. Great. This is why I hate the English language and why I was never good at it in school.

So what was your first language? ;~) I am certain every language has
it's issues.

There is no logic to it whatsoever and basically derived from the
drunken hoards of the middle ages.

There is logic to it but only about 90% of the time. Phonics are often
not my friend. I don't care for words that begin with a silent letter.
What is the point?

Pneumonia, Xylophone, Knife to name a few. And why does "sure" not have
an "h"in it?

Don't get me started on sword.

Banks that have failed for some reason thought that their name should
have Banc in their name.

And last but certainly not least......

NYU, yes a university. Who would have thought New York Vniversity?
Spelling is not that University's strong point. Yes, University begins
with a "V" on the building letters just below the NYU flag.

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 by: Scott Lurndal - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 20:42 UTC

Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>On 1/31/2022 12:34 PM, Peter Dickason wrote:

>NYU, yes a university. Who would have thought New York Vniversity?
>Spelling is not that University's strong point. Yes, University begins
>with a "V" on the building letters just below the NYU flag.
>

This goes back to Roman times. You try to hand carve a U.

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 by: Scott Lurndal - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 22:52 UTC

scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>>On 1/31/2022 12:34 PM, Peter Dickason wrote:
>
>>NYU, yes a university. Who would have thought New York Vniversity?
>>Spelling is not that University's strong point. Yes, University begins
>>with a "V" on the building letters just below the NYU flag.
>>
>
>This goes back to Roman times. You try to hand carve a U.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/theletteru/

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 by: DerbyDad03 - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 23:46 UTC

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 3:29:33 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> On 1/31/2022 12:34 PM, Peter Dickason wrote:
> >> Carcase is what the kids keep Hot Wheels in; carcass is the dead
> >> opussum on the yellow center line of the roadway ;-)
> >
> > That's what a car case is to me. In my 53 years of life I have never before seen the word 'carcase'. I had to google it and still it wasn't obvious. Finally, I determined the word they meant was carcass and that some references say they are interchangeable. Great. This is why I hate the English language and why I was never good at it in school.
> So what was your first language? ;~) I am certain every language has
> it's issues.
> There is no logic to it whatsoever and basically derived from the
> drunken hoards of the middle ages.
> There is logic to it but only about 90% of the time. Phonics are often
> not my friend. I don't care for words that begin with a silent letter.
> What is the point?
>
> Pneumonia, Xylophone, Knife to name a few. And why does "sure" not have
> an "h"in it?
>
> Don't get me started on sword.
>
> Banks that have failed for some reason thought that their name should
> have Banc in their name.
>
> And last but certainly not least......
>
> NYU, yes a university. Who would have thought New York Vniversity?
> Spelling is not that University's strong point. Yes, University begins
> with a "V" on the building letters just below the NYU flag.

OK, so not exactly along the same line of thought, but you reminded
me of something.

I used to work for a company that had database of our customers.
When we'd create an entry for a customer, the system automatically
created a "Short Name". It was a simple process: Last name followed
by first initial.

Don Smith -> SMITHD
Sue Jones -> JONESS

Now, luckily, this was all internal and the customer never saw their
Short Name, because...

Soon after I started working there, I took on a new customer. A
Chinese gentleman named Kiu Chin. I'll leave to you to figure
the Short Name that the system created.

BTW...the Short Name became hardcoded into the system with no
ability for the user to modify it. That Short Name stayed attached
to Mr. Chin's account for many years, until that database was
eventually retired.

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 by: Leon - Wed, 2 Feb 2022 23:20 UTC

On 2/1/2022 2:42 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>> On 1/31/2022 12:34 PM, Peter Dickason wrote:
>
>> NYU, yes a university. Who would have thought New York Vniversity?
>> Spelling is not that University's strong point. Yes, University begins
>> with a "V" on the building letters just below the NYU flag.
>>
>
> This goes back to Roman times. You try to hand carve a U.

I did not know that NYU went back to Roman Times! ;~)

It still looks stupid. One would have thought that the flag would have
had a V too.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51858716716/in/dateposted/

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 by: meff - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 01:37 UTC

On 2022-02-01, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
> This goes back to Roman times. You try to hand carve a U.

Roman Latin didn't really make a distinction between 'U' and 'V'. I'm
not sure that it was carving purposes that drove this choice, but
maybe.


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