Canadian Police Advise Leaving Car Keys in Front Door to Deter Break-Ins and Minimize Conflict with Thieves

In the face of an alarming rise in car thefts, Toronto Police Service (TPS) Constable Marco Ricciardi has offered a controversial tip to residents: leave car keys in the front door to avoid violent home invasions.

During a community safety meeting in Etobicoke, Constable Ricciardi addressed the issue, stating, “To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door because they’re breaking into your home to steal your car. They
don’t want anything else.”

In short, don’t make it hard for thieves to steal your car. This is what an unarmed society looks like.

This suggestion has come as Toronto grapples with a car theft rate that sees a vehicle stolen every six minutes, a costly crime spree racking up nearly $1 billion annually, according to the Canadian Finance and Leasing Association (CFLA).

Toronto has witnessed a 400% surge in home invasions and break-ins for auto thefts, underscoring a troubling trend of increased violence and the use of firearms by criminals targeting vehicles, Global News reported.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/trudeaus-canada-canadian-police-advise-leaving-car-keys/

Thieves have a Pb deficiency. To cure the feral invaders, inject them with the Minimum Daily Adult Requirement.

z28.310 wrote on 3/15/2024 10:39 AM:
> Canadian Police Advise Leaving Car Keys in Front Door to Deter
> Break-Ins and Minimize Conflict with Thieves
>
> In the face of an alarming rise in car thefts, Toronto Police Service
> (TPS) Constable Marco Ricciardi has offered a controversial tip to
> residents: leave car keys in the front door to avoid violent home
> invasions.
>
> During a community safety meeting in Etobicoke, Constable Ricciardi
> addressed the issue, stating, “To prevent the possibility of being
> attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door because
> they’re breaking into your home to steal your car. They don’t want
> anything else.”
>
> In short, don’t make it hard for thieves to steal your car. This is
> what an unarmed society looks like.
>
> This suggestion has come as Toronto grapples with a car theft rate
> that sees a vehicle stolen every six minutes, a costly crime spree
> racking up nearly $1 billion annually, according to the Canadian
> Finance and Leasing Association (CFLA).
>
> Toronto has witnessed a 400% surge in home invasions and break-ins for
> auto thefts, underscoring a troubling trend of increased violence and
> the use of firearms by criminals targeting vehicles, Global News
> reported.
>
> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/trudeaus-canada-canadian-police-advise-leaving-car-keys/
>
>
>
> Thieves have a Pb deficiency. To cure the feral invaders, inject them
> with the Minimum Daily Adult Requirement.

Illegal American guns are flooding into Canada and Mexico. That's the
root of the problem.

In article <65f45dc8$0$6048$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
pureblood@z28.310 says...
>
> Canadian Police Advise Leaving Car Keys in Front Door to Deter Break-Ins and Minimize Conflict with Thieves
>
> In the face of an alarming rise in car thefts, Toronto Police Service (TPS) Constable Marco Ricciardi has offered a controversial tip to residents: leave car keys in the front door to avoid violent home invasions.
>
>
>

What do they do with the car thieves in Canada ?

We need to bring back the old rules where we hang horse thieves in the
US. Each vehicle has many horses under the hood.

When many chrimes are commited by the same people over and over we need
to eliminate those people.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:39:58 -0400, "z28.310"
<pureblood@z28.310> wrote:

>Canadian Police Advise Leaving Car Keys in Front Door to Deter Break-Ins and Minimize Conflict with Thieves
>
>In the face of an alarming rise in car thefts, Toronto Police Service (TPS) Constable Marco Ricciardi has offered a controversial tip to residents: leave car keys in the front door to avoid violent home invasions.
>
>During a community safety meeting in Etobicoke, Constable Ricciardi addressed the issue, stating, “To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door because they’re breaking into your home to steal your car. They
>don’t want anything else.”

That'w a good idea, but I have an add-on that will make it better. Leave
the fob where they will find it, but remove the distributor rotor so
they still can't steal the car. Ezy-Pezy.

>In short, don’t make it hard for thieves to steal your car. This is what an unarmed society looks like.
>
>This suggestion has come as Toronto grapples with a car theft rate that sees a vehicle stolen every six minutes, a costly crime spree racking up nearly $1 billion annually, according to the Canadian Finance and Leasing Association (CFLA).
>
>Toronto has witnessed a 400% surge in home invasions and break-ins for auto thefts, underscoring a troubling trend of increased violence and the use of firearms by criminals targeting vehicles, Global News reported.
>
>https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/trudeaus-canada-canadian-police-advise-leaving-car-keys/
>
>
>Thieves have a Pb deficiency. To cure the feral invaders, inject them with the Minimum Daily Adult Requirement.

On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:25:36 -0400, Ralph Mowery
<rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

>In article <65f45dc8$0$6048$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>pureblood@z28.310 says...
>>
>> Canadian Police Advise
>>
>>
>>
>
>What do they do with the car thieves in Canada ?
> We need to bring back the old rules where we hang horse thieves in the
>US. Each vehicle has many horses under the hood.
>When many chrimes are commited by the same people over and over we need
>to eliminate those people.
>
>

In the small towns and rural areas, the random opportunistic thefts
are often the result of the keys being left in the truck.. Yep.
In the urban areas many of the thefts are upscale vehicles -
by professional thieves who use sophicated electronic code
devices. These vehicles are soon on the way to the port in
Montreal - where organized crime has ruled for many years.
The courts are back-logged so bad that the thieves will get
a plea-bargain wrist-slap and be back-in-business asap.
John T.

On 3/15/2024 8:46 AM, micky wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:39:58 -0400, "z28.310"
> <pureblood@z28.310> wrote:
>
>> Canadian Police Advise Leaving Car Keys in Front Door to Deter Break-Ins and Minimize Conflict with Thieves
>>
>> In the face of an alarming rise in car thefts, Toronto Police Service (TPS) Constable Marco Ricciardi has offered a controversial tip to residents: leave car keys in the front door to avoid violent home invasions.
>>
>> During a community safety meeting in Etobicoke, Constable Ricciardi addressed the issue, stating, “To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door because they’re breaking into your home to steal your car. They
>> don’t want anything else.”
>
> That'w a good idea, but I have an add-on that will make it better. Leave
> the fob where they will find it, but remove the distributor rotor so
> they still can't steal the car. Ezy-Pezy.

Show me your distributor rotor!

But you can't find one.

>>
>> That'w a good idea, but I have an add-on that will make it better. Leave
>> the fob where they will find it, but remove the distributor rotor so
>> they still can't steal the car. Ezy-Pezy.
>
>Show me your distributor rotor!
>But you can't find one.
>

I think the last vehicle I've owned with a rotor was my 1980 F100.
.... not 100 % sure but I think the '86 Cutlas was electronic
and everything since then for me.
John T.

On 3/15/2024 10:43 AM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
> z28.310 wrote on 3/15/2024 10:39 AM:
>> Canadian Police Advise Leaving Car Keys in Front Door to Deter
>> Break-Ins and Minimize Conflict with Thieves
>>
>> In the face of an alarming rise in car thefts, Toronto Police Service
>> (TPS) Constable Marco Ricciardi has offered a controversial tip to
>> residents: leave car keys in the front door to avoid violent home
>> invasions.
>>
>> During a community safety meeting in Etobicoke, Constable Ricciardi
>> addressed the issue, stating, “To prevent the possibility of being
>> attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door because
>> they’re breaking into your home to steal your car. They don’t want
>> anything else.”
>>
>> In short, don’t make it hard for thieves to steal your car. This is
>> what an unarmed society looks like.
>>
>> This suggestion has come as Toronto grapples with a car theft rate
>> that sees a vehicle stolen every six minutes, a costly crime spree
>> racking up nearly $1 billion annually, according to the Canadian
>> Finance and Leasing Association (CFLA).
>>
>> Toronto has witnessed a 400% surge in home invasions and break-ins for
>> auto thefts, underscoring a troubling trend of increased violence and
>> the use of firearms by criminals targeting vehicles, Global News
>> reported.
>>
>> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/trudeaus-canada-canadian-police-advise-leaving-car-keys/
>>
>>
>> Thieves have a Pb deficiency. To cure the feral invaders, inject them
>> with the Minimum Daily Adult Requirement.
>
>
> Illegal American guns are flooding into Canada and Mexico. That's the
> root of the problem.
>
>
>
Along with the flood of illegals that inflict us all.

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> writes:
>In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:39:58 -0400, "z28.310"
><pureblood@z28.310> wrote:
>
>>Canadian Police Advise Leaving Car Keys in Front Door to Deter Break-Ins and Minimize Conflict with Thieves
>>
>>In the face of an alarming rise in car thefts, Toronto Police Service (TPS) Constable Marco Ricciardi has offered a controversial tip to residents: leave car keys in the front door to avoid violent home invasions.
>>
>>During a community safety meeting in Etobicoke, Constable Ricciardi addressed the issue, stating, �To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door because they�re breaking into your home to steal your car. They
>>don�t want anything else.�
>
>That'w a good idea, but I have an add-on that will make it better. Leave
>the fob where they will find it, but remove the distributor rotor so
>they still can't steal the car. Ezy-Pezy.

You really need to stop replying to ridiculous shithead-pundit articles.

_one_ constable made that suggestion to leave the fob _inside_
the front door at a town hall meeting. Which he subsequently
retracted.

It was never the policy of even the Toronto police, much less the
Canadian Mounties (the national police).

Scott Lurndal wrote on 3/15/2024 12:51 PM:
> micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> writes:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:39:58 -0400, "z28.310"
>> <pureblood@z28.310> wrote:
>>
>>> Canadian Police Advise Leaving Car Keys in Front Door to Deter Break-Ins and Minimize Conflict with Thieves
>>>
>>> In the face of an alarming rise in car thefts, Toronto Police Service (TPS) Constable Marco Ricciardi has offered a controversial tip to residents: leave car keys in the front door to avoid violent home invasions.
>>>
>>> During a community safety meeting in Etobicoke, Constable Ricciardi addressed the issue, stating, “To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door because they’re breaking into your home to steal your car. They
>>> don’t want anything else.”
>> That'w a good idea, but I have an add-on that will make it better. Leave
>> the fob where they will find it, but remove the distributor rotor so
>> they still can't steal the car. Ezy-Pezy.
> You really need to stop replying to ridiculous shithead-pundit articles.
>
> _one_ constable made that suggestion to leave the fob _inside_
> the front door at a town hall meeting. Which he subsequently
> retracted.

The stupid police constable should be docked pay and demoted.

>
> It was never the policy of even the Toronto police, much less the
> Canadian Mounties (the national police).
>

😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
> z28.310 wrote on 3/15/2024 10:39 AM:
>> Canadian Police Advise Leaving Car Keys in Front Door to Deter Break-Ins and Minimize Conflict with Thieves
>>
>> In the face of an alarming rise in car thefts, Toronto Police Service (TPS) Constable Marco Ricciardi has offered a controversial tip to residents: leave car keys in the front door to avoid violent home invasions.
>>
>> During a community safety meeting in Etobicoke, Constable Ricciardi addressed the issue, stating, “To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door because they’re breaking into your home to steal your car.
>> They don’t want anything else.”
>>
>> In short, don’t make it hard for thieves to steal your car. This is what an unarmed society looks like.
>>
>> This suggestion has come as Toronto grapples with a car theft rate that sees a vehicle stolen every six minutes, a costly crime spree racking up nearly $1 billion annually, according to the Canadian Finance and Leasing Association (CFLA).
>>
>> Toronto has witnessed a 400% surge in home invasions and break-ins for auto thefts, underscoring a troubling trend of increased violence and the use of firearms by criminals targeting vehicles, Global News reported.
>>
>> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/trudeaus-canada-canadian-police-advise-leaving-car-keys/
>>
>>
>> Thieves have a Pb deficiency. To cure the feral invaders, inject them with the Minimum Daily Adult Requirement.
>
>
> Illegal American guns are flooding into Canada and Mexico. That's the root of the problem.
>
>
>

Nope, soft-on-crime Democrats embolden the feral invaders.
Guns cure recidivism.

micky wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:39:58 -0400, "z28.310"
> <pureblood@z28.310> wrote:
>
>> Canadian Police Advise Leaving Car Keys in Front Door to Deter Break-Ins and Minimize Conflict with Thieves
>>
>> In the face of an alarming rise in car thefts, Toronto Police Service (TPS) Constable Marco Ricciardi has offered a controversial tip to residents: leave car keys in the front door to avoid violent home invasions.
>>
>> During a community safety meeting in Etobicoke, Constable Ricciardi addressed the issue, stating, “To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door because they’re breaking into your home to steal your car. They
>> don’t want anything else.”
> That'w a good idea, but I have an add-on that will make it better. Leave
> the fob where they will find it, but remove the distributor rotor so
> they still can't steal the car. Ezy-Pezy.
>

Would someone even bother to steal a Chrysler K car?

On 3/15/24 07:39, z28.310 wrote:
> Thieves have a Pb deficiency. To cure the feral invaders, inject them
> with the Minimum Daily Adult Requirement.

More guns, less crime.

Scott Lurndal wrote:
> micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> writes:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:39:58 -0400, "z28.310"
>> <pureblood@z28.310> wrote:
>>
>>> Canadian Police Advise Leaving Car Keys in Front Door to Deter Break-Ins and Minimize Conflict with Thieves
>>>
>>> In the face of an alarming rise in car thefts, Toronto Police Service (TPS) Constable Marco Ricciardi has offered a controversial tip to residents: leave car keys in the front door to avoid violent home invasions.
>>>
>>> During a community safety meeting in Etobicoke, Constable Ricciardi addressed the issue, stating, “To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door because they’re breaking into your home to steal your car. They
>>> don’t want anything else.”
>> That'w a good idea, but I have an add-on that will make it better. Leave
>> the fob where they will find it, but remove the distributor rotor so
>> they still can't steal the car. Ezy-Pezy.
> You really need to stop replying to ridiculous shithead-pundit articles.
>
> _one_ constable made that suggestion to leave the fob _inside_
> the front door at a town hall meeting. Which he subsequently
> retracted.
>
> It was never the policy of even the Toronto police, much less the
> Canadian Mounties (the national police).
>

https://www.infowars.com/posts/clown-world-canada-citizens-told-to-leave-keys-accessible-for-car-thieves/

https://twitter.com/blackhawkce457/status/1767992816402047215

https://nowtoronto.com/news/toronto-polices-advice-to-leave-car-keys-by-front-door-draws-criticism/

On 3/15/24 09:18, Frank wrote:
> On 3/15/2024 10:43 AM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
>> z28.310 wrote on 3/15/2024 10:39 AM:
>>> Canadian Police Advise Leaving Car Keys in Front Door to Deter
>>> Break-Ins and Minimize Conflict with Thieves
>>>
>>> In the face of an alarming rise in car thefts, Toronto Police Service
>>> (TPS) Constable Marco Ricciardi has offered a controversial tip to
>>> residents: leave car keys in the front door to avoid violent home
>>> invasions.
>>>
>>> During a community safety meeting in Etobicoke, Constable Ricciardi
>>> addressed the issue, stating, “To prevent the possibility of being
>>> attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door because
>>> they’re breaking into your home to steal your car. They don’t want
>>> anything else.”
>>>
>>> In short, don’t make it hard for thieves to steal your car. This is
>>> what an unarmed society looks like.
>>>
>>> This suggestion has come as Toronto grapples with a car theft rate
>>> that sees a vehicle stolen every six minutes, a costly crime spree
>>> racking up nearly $1 billion annually, according to the Canadian
>>> Finance and Leasing Association (CFLA).
>>>
>>> Toronto has witnessed a 400% surge in home invasions and break-ins
>>> for auto thefts, underscoring a troubling trend of increased violence
>>> and the use of firearms by criminals targeting vehicles, Global News
>>> reported.
>>>
>>> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/trudeaus-canada-canadian-police-advise-leaving-car-keys/
>>>
>>>
>>> Thieves have a Pb deficiency. To cure the feral invaders, inject them
>>> with the Minimum Daily Adult Requirement.
>>
>>
>> Illegal American guns are flooding into Canada and Mexico. That's the
>> root of the problem.
>>
>>
>>
> Along with the flood of illegals that inflict us all.

"The First Amendment is first for a reason. The Second
Amendment is just in case the first one doesn’t work out."
--David Chappelle

On 3/15/24 16:10, Ilhan Omar-Cortez wrote:
> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> writes:
>>> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:39:58 -0400, "z28.310"
>>> <pureblood@z28.310> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Canadian Police Advise Leaving Car Keys in Front Door to Deter
>>>> Break-Ins and Minimize Conflict with Thieves
>>>>
>>>> In the face of an alarming rise in car thefts, Toronto Police
>>>> Service (TPS) Constable Marco Ricciardi has offered a controversial
>>>> tip to residents: leave car keys in the front door to avoid violent
>>>> home invasions.
>>>>
>>>> During a community safety meeting in Etobicoke, Constable Ricciardi
>>>> addressed the issue, stating, “To prevent the possibility of being
>>>> attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door because
>>>> they’re breaking into your home to steal your car. They
>>>> don’t want anything else.”
>>> That'w a good idea, but I have an add-on that will make it better. Leave
>>> the fob where they will find it, but remove the distributor rotor so
>>> they still can't steal the car.  Ezy-Pezy.
>> You really need to stop replying to ridiculous shithead-pundit articles.
>>
>> _one_ constable made that suggestion to leave the fob _inside_
>> the front door at a town hall meeting.  Which he subsequently
>> retracted.
>>
>> It was never the policy of even the Toronto police, much less the
>> Canadian Mounties (the national police).
>>
>
> https://www.infowars.com/posts/clown-world-canada-citizens-told-to-leave-keys-accessible-for-car-thieves/
>
> https://twitter.com/blackhawkce457/status/1767992816402047215
>
> https://nowtoronto.com/news/toronto-polices-advice-to-leave-car-keys-by-front-door-draws-criticism/

What???? The Narrative was wrong, again. HOW COULD THAT BE!
The Truth Minister and the anointed WOULD NEVER LIE!

On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 02:46:33 +1100, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:39:58 -0400, "z28.310"
> <pureblood@z28.310> wrote:
>
>> Canadian Police Advise Leaving Car Keys in Front Door to Deter
>> Break-Ins and Minimize Conflict with Thieves
>>
>> In the face of an alarming rise in car thefts, Toronto Police Service
>> (TPS) Constable Marco Ricciardi has offered a controversial tip to
>> residents: leave car keys in the front door to avoid violent home
>> invasions.
>>
>> During a community safety meeting in Etobicoke, Constable Ricciardi
>> addressed the issue, stating, “To prevent the possibility of being
>> attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door because
>> they’re breaking into your home to steal your car. They
>> don’t want anything else.”
>
> That'w a good idea, but I have an add-on that will make it better. Leave
> the fob where they will find it, but remove the distributor rotor so
> they still can't steal the car. Ezy-Pezy.

There is no distributor in modern cars.

>> In short, don’t make it hard for thieves to steal your car. This is
>> what an unarmed society looks like.
>>
>> This suggestion has come as Toronto grapples with a car theft rate that
>> sees a vehicle stolen every six minutes, a costly crime spree racking
>> up nearly $1 billion annually, according to the Canadian Finance and
>> Leasing Association (CFLA).
>>
>> Toronto has witnessed a 400% surge in home invasions and break-ins for
>> auto thefts, underscoring a troubling trend of increased violence and
>> the use of firearms by criminals targeting vehicles, Global News
>> reported.
>>
>> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/trudeaus-canada-canadian-police-advise-leaving-car-keys/
>>
>>
>> Thieves have a Pb deficiency. To cure the feral invaders, inject them
>> with the Minimum Daily Adult Requirement.

T wrote:
> On 3/15/24 16:10, Ilhan Omar-Cortez wrote:
>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> writes:
>>>> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:39:58 -0400, "z28.310"
>>>> <pureblood@z28.310> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Canadian Police Advise Leaving Car Keys in Front Door to Deter Break-Ins and Minimize Conflict with Thieves
>>>>>
>>>>> In the face of an alarming rise in car thefts, Toronto Police Service (TPS) Constable Marco Ricciardi has offered a controversial tip to residents: leave car keys in the front door to avoid violent home invasions.
>>>>>
>>>>> During a community safety meeting in Etobicoke, Constable Ricciardi addressed the issue, stating, “To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door because they’re breaking into your home to steal your
>>>>> car. They
>>>>> don’t want anything else.”
>>>> That'w a good idea, but I have an add-on that will make it better. Leave
>>>> the fob where they will find it, but remove the distributor rotor so
>>>> they still can't steal the car.  Ezy-Pezy.
>>> You really need to stop replying to ridiculous shithead-pundit articles.
>>>
>>> _one_ constable made that suggestion to leave the fob _inside_
>>> the front door at a town hall meeting.  Which he subsequently
>>> retracted.
>>>
>>> It was never the policy of even the Toronto police, much less the
>>> Canadian Mounties (the national police).
>>>
>>
>> https://www.infowars.com/posts/clown-world-canada-citizens-told-to-leave-keys-accessible-for-car-thieves/
>>
>> https://twitter.com/blackhawkce457/status/1767992816402047215
>>
>> https://nowtoronto.com/news/toronto-polices-advice-to-leave-car-keys-by-front-door-draws-criticism/
>
>
> What????  The Narrative was wrong, again.  HOW COULD THAT BE!
> The Truth Minister and the anointed WOULD NEVER LIE!
>
>

When the Democrat invader-voter-thugs bust down your door, a cheap solution is a shotgun.

On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:56:48 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:25:36 -0400, Ralph Mowery
><rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <65f45dc8$0$6048$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>pureblood@z28.310 says...
>>>
>>> Canadian Police Advise
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>What do they do with the car thieves in Canada ?
>> We need to bring back the old rules where we hang horse thieves in the
>>US. Each vehicle has many horses under the hood.
>>When many chrimes are commited by the same people over and over we need
>>to eliminate those people.
>>
>>
>
>In the small towns and rural areas, the random opportunistic thefts
> are often the result of the keys being left in the truck.. Yep.
>In the urban areas many of the thefts are upscale vehicles -
>by professional thieves who use sophicated electronic code
>devices. These vehicles are soon on the way to the port in
>Montreal - where organized crime has ruled for many years.
> The courts are back-logged so bad that the thieves will get
>a plea-bargain wrist-slap and be back-in-business asap.
> John T.
>

" hundreds of stolen cars that were destined for export
at the Port of Montreal "

https://tinyurl.com/5c846zhc

John T.