On 4/1/2024 11:01 AM, micky wrote:
> There were two tugs, but they seem to have left early on. I don't know
> if the two they had were able to do anything:
>
> https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/03/28/key-bridge-collapse-timeline/
> 12:51 a.m.: The Dali’s status is changed to “under way using engine” and
> its speed is recorded at about 3 knots on myshiptracking.com, a website
> that tracks ships’ locations via the Automatic Identification System, a
> technology used to avoid collisions.
>
> 1:09 a.m.: Two tugboats guiding the Dali leave once the ship turns to
> begin its departure out of the port waters.
> .....
That would be normal procedure. Tugs are needed for tight
maneuverability, especially at low speeds. Once underway, the pilot,
not the captain is in charge until is is out of port. The pilot is very
familiar with local conditions, know where the buried tree stump is and
such details.

Just saw this in USA Today

Tugboats.

These small but mighty vessels tow and push ever-larger ships through
channels and help them when their propulsion systems – or lack thereof –
cannot. They are standard equipment in ports worldwide and are
especially useful to help ships dock and undock.

On Tuesday, a pair of tugboats operated by McAllister Towing and
Transportation did just that, helping the Dali unmoor itself from the
main terminal at the Port of Baltimore and orient the ship toward the
open waters.

But they broke away before the massive ship navigated under the bridge,
as is common practice. Minutes later, the Dali appeared to lose power
and propulsion, sending the craft adrift and directly into one of the
bridge’s support columns. The steel-truss bridge immediately collapsed
into the frigid Patapsco River.

The accident is igniting debate over the proliferation of 'megaships'
that fuel today’s commercial transportation industry and whether port
protocols have ramped up to safely accommodate them. Although the Dali
is considered average-sized, the devastation it caused in Baltimore was
formidable.

Had the tugboats accompanied the ship all the way under the bridge, some
experts say, they might have been able to stop, slow, or steer it away
from danger.

Such a scenario should be standard operating procedure in all ports,
said Capt. Ashok Pandey, a master mariner and associate professor of
maritime business at the Massachusetts Maritime Academy. He said the
industry’s reliance on tugs has waned over the years as technological
advancements gave many ships the ability to maneuver through channels
independently.

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Ed P wrote:
> On 4/1/2024 11:01 AM, micky wrote:
> > There were two tugs, but they seem to have left early on.  I don't know
> > if the two they had were able to do anything:
> >
> > https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/03/28/key-bridge-collapse-timeline/
> > 12:51 a.m.: The Dali’s status is changed to “under way using engine” and
> > its speed is recorded at about 3 knots on myshiptracking.com, a website
> > that tracks ships’ locations via the Automatic Identification System, a
> > technology used to avoid collisions.
> >
> > 1:09 a.m.: Two tugboats guiding the Dali leave once the ship turns to
> > begin its departure out of the port waters.
> > .....
> That would be normal procedure.  Tugs are needed for tight maneuverability, especially at low speeds.  Once underway, the pilot, not the captain is in charge until is is out of port.  The pilot is very familiar with local conditions, know where the
> buried tree stump is and such details.
>
> Just saw this in USA Today
>
> Tugboats.
>
> These small but mighty vessels tow and push ever-larger ships through channels and help them when their propulsion systems – or lack thereof – cannot. They are standard equipment in ports worldwide and are especially useful to help ships dock and undock.
>
> On Tuesday, a pair of tugboats operated by McAllister Towing and Transportation did just that, helping the Dali unmoor itself from the main terminal at the Port of Baltimore and orient the ship toward the open waters.
>
> But they broke away before the massive ship navigated under the bridge, as is common practice. Minutes later, the Dali appeared to lose power and propulsion, sending the craft adrift and directly into one of the bridge’s support columns. The
> steel-truss bridge immediately collapsed into the frigid Patapsco River.
>
> The accident is igniting debate over the proliferation of 'megaships' that fuel today’s commercial transportation industry and whether port protocols have ramped up to safely accommodate them. Although the Dali is considered average-sized, the
> devastation it caused in Baltimore was formidable.
>
> Had the tugboats accompanied the ship all the way under the bridge, some experts say, they might have been able to stop, slow, or steer it away from danger.
>
> Such a scenario should be standard operating procedure in all ports, said Capt. Ashok Pandey, a master mariner and associate professor of maritime business at the Massachusetts Maritime Academy. He said the industry’s reliance on tugs has waned over
> the years as technological advancements gave many ships the ability to maneuver through channels independently.

I suspect the guy driving the boat was influenced by Democrat $$$ to take out the bridge.

On 4/2/2024 7:00 AM, JRB Ware wrote:
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> I suspect the guy driving the boat was influenced by Democrat $$$ to
> take out the bridge.

That has to be one of the dumbest things ever posted here.

Ed P wrote:
> On 4/2/2024 7:00 AM, JRB Ware wrote:
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>> I suspect the guy driving the boat was influenced by Democrat $$$ to take out the bridge.
>
> That has to be one of the dumbest things ever posted here.

Remember the nose wheel that fell off the Delta jet while taxiing for departure?
I suspect Goober got fired.

Remember the tire falling off the United jet departing SFO, crushing several vehicles in parking lot?
Goober at his new job?

And now the Dali's engine puked departing the Baltimore harbor.
Is Goober a marine diesel mechanic now? Did Goober recently give the Dali a tune up?