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Air Force Head Says It Needs to Move Faster to Counter China - he even went so far as to say it should emulate China in how it gets there. China’s People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) introduced five new fighters: the J-10 “Vigorous Dragon” multi-role fighter, J-16 fighter, J-20 “Mighty Dragon” stealth fighter, J-31 “Gyrfalcon”, and the Russian-made Su-35 “Flanker-E.”

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by: stormi - Sat, 18 Sep 2021 06:55 UTC

On 18/9/2021 1:49 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> Air Force Head Says It Needs to Move Faster to Counter China - he even went so far as to say it should emulate China in how it gets there. China’s People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) introduced five new fighters: the J-10 “Vigorous Dragon” multi-role fighter, J-16 fighter, J-20 “Mighty Dragon” stealth fighter, J-31 “Gyrfalcon”, and the Russian-made Su-35 “Flanker-E.”
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/air-force-head-says-needs-120000991.html
>

The Air Force Head is asking on behalf of the defense industrial complex
for new taxpayer money to contract new defense needs.

The defense industrial complex controls the US defense department in the
development and production of new planes for the Pentagon defense
department.

The defense industrial complex controls the entire US defense needs. US
has no alternative choices but to let them push them to buy more for it.

Currently, they are upgrading the F15 and F16 to meet the new needs
required in the plane.

Otherwise, there is nothing new except for the F22, which is unsafe for
export or for use in overseas mission.

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by: Byker - Mon, 20 Sep 2021 19:40 UTC

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>
> https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/air-force-head-says-needs-120000991.html
>
> The Air Force Head is asking on behalf of the defense industrial complex
> for new taxpayer money to contract new defense needs.
>
> The defense industrial complex controls the US defense department in the
> development and production of new planes for the Pentagon defense
> department.
>
> The defense industrial complex controls the entire US defense needs. US
> has no alternative choices but to let them push them to buy more for it.
>
> Currently, they are upgrading the F15 and F16 to meet the new needs
> required in the plane.
>
> Otherwise, there is nothing new except for the F22, which is unsafe for
> export or for use in overseas mission.

But good enough for Chingchongs to try to rip off:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Fh3CBvNcc

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/china-can-copy-americas-f-22-j-20-stealth-fighter-doesnt-match-151571

Wouldn't it be a mean trick for the DOD to deliberately develop a piece of
junk for the sole purpose of having the Russkies and Chao-chows snatch it up
and try to make it work?

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by: Rusty Wyse - Mon, 20 Sep 2021 20:56 UTC

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 12:40:26 PM UTC-7, Byker wrote:
> "stormi" AKA "shapey" AKA "rorro" AKA "nono" AKA "bernoff" AKA "bach" AKA
> "roove" AKA "grille" AKA AKA "spacer" AKA "starlet" AKA "kawaga AKA "hotei"
> AKA "tom"AKA "golden" AKA "lobo" AKA "kool" AKA "moses" AKA "dubenski" AKA
> "bobo" AKA "vonnie" AKA "starlet" AKA "dean" wrote in message
> news:si42gl$br3$1...@dont-email.me...
> >
> > https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/air-force-head-says-needs-120000991.html
> >
> > The Air Force Head is asking on behalf of the defense industrial complex
> > for new taxpayer money to contract new defense needs.
> >
> > The defense industrial complex controls the US defense department in the
> > development and production of new planes for the Pentagon defense
> > department.
> >
> > The defense industrial complex controls the entire US defense needs. US
> > has no alternative choices but to let them push them to buy more for it.
> >
> > Currently, they are upgrading the F15 and F16 to meet the new needs
> > required in the plane.
> >
> > Otherwise, there is nothing new except for the F22, which is unsafe for
> > export or for use in overseas mission.
> But good enough for Chingchongs to try to rip off:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Fh3CBvNcc
>
> https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/china-can-copy-americas-f-22-j-20-stealth-fighter-doesnt-match-151571
>
> Wouldn't it be a mean trick for the DOD to deliberately develop a piece of
> junk for the sole purpose of having the Russkies and Chao-chows snatch it up
> and try to make it work?

Only the Americans are that stupid!!!!

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by: SevenOverSix - Tue, 21 Sep 2021 02:22 UTC

Subject	Author
Air Force Head Says It Needs to Move Faster to Count	Rusty Wyse
Re: Air Force Head Says It Needs to Move Faster to Coun	stormi
Re: Air Force Head Says It Needs	Byker
Re: Air Force Head Says It Needs to Move Faster to Counter China - he even went	Rusty Wyse
Re: Air Force Head Says It Needs to Move Faster to Counter China - he even went	SevenOverSix