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* QFTCI23 Game 3, Rounds 4-6: plates, inaugurals, unrelatedMark Brader
+- Re: QFTCI23 Game 3, Rounds 4-6: plates, inaugurals, unrelatedDan Tilque
+- Re: QFTCI23 Game 3, Rounds 4-6: plates, inaugurals, unrelatedErland Sommarskog
+- Re: QFTCI23 Game 3, Rounds 4-6: plates, inaugurals, unrelatedJoshua Kreitzer
+- Re: QFTCI23 Game 3, Rounds 4-6: plates, inaugurals, unrelatedDan Blum
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+* QFTCI23 Game 3, Rounds 4-6 answers: plates, inaugurals, unrelatedMark Brader
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`* QFTCI23 Game 3, Rounds 7-8: ItLit, obscure rulesMark Brader
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 by: Mark Brader - Sun, 29 Oct 2023 04:56 UTC

These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2023-10-02,
and should be interpreted accordingly.

On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.

All questions were written by members of the Usual Suspects and
are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have
been retyped and/or edited by me. The posting and tabulation of
current-events questions is independent of the concurrent posting
of other rounds. For further information please see my 2023-05-24
companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
(QFTCI*)".

I wrote two of these rounds.

* Game 3, Round 4 - Geography - US State License Plates

We've had beers and bears, so now how about a round on bores? Well,
maybe that would be too boring.

So instead, please see the handout:

http://www.vex.net/~msb/tmp/g3r4/plat.pdf

and simply identify each US state from the plate and the slogan.

I've sorted the round in order by the handout. There were two
decoys, which are now interspersed with the questions: answer them
if you like for fun, but for no points.

1 (decoy). The Last Frontier.
2. Live Free or Die.
3. Great Faces, Great Places
4. Wild, Wonderful.
5. The Natural State.
6. Ocean State.
7 (decoy). First in Flight.
8. The First State.
9. Land of Enchantment.
10. Life Elevated.
11. Constitution State.
12. Native America.

* Game 3, Round 5 - Audio - The Inaugural Address

Yes, it's an audio round without the audio. In the original game,
of course, a clip of the speech was played. Here you will have
a transcript of each clip.

The last round was US states, and this one is US presidents.
On each question, name the president who is speaking at his
inauguration after being newly elected. For fun, you may also
mention the year of the speech, but it's not part of your answer.
If two presidents have had the same surname, you must disambiguate
appropriately.

1. "We will build our defenses beyond challenge, lest weakness
invite challenge. We will confront weapons of mass destruction,
so that a new century is spared new horrors. The enemies
of liberty and our country should make no mistake: America
remains engaged in the world, by history and by choice, shaping
a balance of power that favors freedom."

2. "Through a crucible for the ages America has been tested anew,
and America has risen to the challenge. Today we celebrate
the triumph not of a candidate, but of a cause, the cause of
democracy. The people -- the will of the people has been heard,
and the will of the people has been heeded. We've learned again
that democracy is precious, democracy is fragile. At this
hour, my friends, democracy has prevailed."

3. "There is no longer a clear division between what is foreign
and what is domestic. The world economy, the world environment,
the world AIDS crisis, the world arms race: they affect us all.
Today, as an old order passes, the new world is more free
but less stable. Communism's collapse has called forth old
animosities and new dangers. Clearly, America must continue
to lead the world we did so much to make."

4. "But we have no promise from God that our greatness will endure.
We have been allowed by Him to seek greatness with the sweat
of our hands and the strength of our spirit. I do not believe
that the Great Society is the ordered, changeless, and sterile
battalion of the ants. It is the excitement of becoming -- always
becoming..."

5. "For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not
a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and
Hindus -- and nonbelievers. We are shaped by every language and
culture, drawn from every end of this Earth. And because we have
tasted the bitter swill of civil war and segregation and emerged
from that dark chapter stronger and more united, we cannot help
but believe that the old hatreds shall someday pass..."

6. "This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole
truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly
facing conditions in our country today. This great nation
will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper.
So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only
thing we have to fear is -- fear itself."

7. "...both sides overburdened by the cost of modern weapons, both
rightly alarmed by the steady spread of the deadly atom, yet both
racing to alter that uncertain balance of terror that stays the
hand of mankind's final war. So let us begin anew, remembering
on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness, and
sincerity is always subject to proof. Let us never negotiate
out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate."

8. "The economic ills we suffer have come upon us over several
decades. They will not go away in days, weeks, or months, but
they will go away. They will go away because we as Americans
have the capacity now, as we've had in the past, to do whatever
needs to be done to preserve this last and greatest bastion
of freedom. In this present crisis, government is not the
solution to our problem; government is the problem."

9. "Together, we will determine the course of America and the world
for many, many years to come. We will face challenges, we will
confront hardships, but we will get the job done. Every 4 years,
we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful
transfer of power..."

10. "I have taken an oath today in the presence of God and my
countrymen to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United
States. And to that oath I now add this sacred commitment:
I shall consecrate my Office, my energies, and all the wisdom
I can summon to the cause of peace among nations. Let this
message be heard by strong and weak alike..."

* Game 3, Round 6 - Entertainment - Not Related To

For each question we will describe two celebrities, mostly actors
and actresses, who go by the same surname. It may or may not be
their real name, but in any case, they are not related. We will
always describe them in alphabetical order by first name, not that
we expect that to help you.

You must give *both their first names and their shared surname*,
like "Chris and Lyndon Johnson", but you don't have to name them
in order.

1. Her songs include "California Gurls" and "I Kissed a Girl".
He's best known for a sitcom that ran from 1994 to 2004.
To repeat, they aren't related but have the same surname;
name both.

2. The woman has appeared in 8 movies where Woody Allen either
starred or directed. The man's been in a number of superhero
movies, and he was nominated -- but didn't win -- for Best
Actor in the movie that did win Best Picture for 2014.

3. One woman is known for falling in love with a vampire; the other
publishes a magazine named after her, and has hosted two TV shows
named after her, one before and one after her prison sentence.

4. One woman starred in a Hitchcock movie where she's killed in
the first half; the other starred in, and won Best Actress for,
the Best Picture winner for 1939.

5. She was "Unfaithful Under the Tuscan Sun" -- no, wait, those
were two of her movies. He's starred in "The Producers" both
on stage (winning a Tony) and on screen.

6. These two women have 5 Best Actress Oscars between them.

7. He won an Oscar for "Training Day"; she won a TV Guide Fan
Favorite Award for "Scandal".

8. The first woman starred in "A Few Good Men", and met some bad
men in "Disclosure" and "Indecent Proposal". The second one sang
"I Wanna Be with You in My Pocket, Have a Little Faith in Me"
-- oh, sorry, those were three separate titles.

9. He played himself as the title character of a sitcom, and
currently hosts a long-running game show; she sang "All I Want
for Christmas is You", and many other songs.

10. The first man starred as a secret agent on the original "I Spy";
the second one had a recurring role as a secret agent on "JAG".

--
Mark Brader | "And I won't like [this usage] any better if you
Toronto | produce examples from Shakespeare, Milton, Johnson ...
msb@vex.net | Or, indeed, myself." --Mike Lyle

My text in this article is in the public domain.

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 by: Dan Tilque - Sun, 29 Oct 2023 06:44 UTC

On 10/28/23 21:56, Mark Brader wrote:
>
>
> I wrote two of these rounds.
>
>
> * Game 3, Round 4 - Geography - US State License Plates
>
> We've had beers and bears, so now how about a round on bores? Well,
> maybe that would be too boring.
>
> So instead, please see the handout:
>
> http://www.vex.net/~msb/tmp/g3r4/plat.pdf
>
> and simply identify each US state from the plate and the slogan.
>
> I've sorted the round in order by the handout. There were two
> decoys, which are now interspersed with the questions: answer them
> if you like for fun, but for no points.
>
> 1 (decoy). The Last Frontier.

Alaska

> 2. Live Free or Die.

New Hampshire

> 3. Great Faces, Great Places

South Dakota

> 4. Wild, Wonderful.

West Virginia
> 5. The Natural State.

Arkansas

> 6. Ocean State.

Rhode Island

> 7 (decoy). First in Flight.

North Carolina

> 8. The First State.

Delaware

> 9. Land of Enchantment.

New Mexico

> 10. Life Elevated.

Utah

> 11. Constitution State.

Connecticut

> 12. Native America.

Oklahoma

>
>
> * Game 3, Round 5 - Audio - The Inaugural Address
>
> Yes, it's an audio round without the audio. In the original game,
> of course, a clip of the speech was played. Here you will have
> a transcript of each clip.
>
> The last round was US states, and this one is US presidents.
> On each question, name the president who is speaking at his
> inauguration after being newly elected. For fun, you may also
> mention the year of the speech, but it's not part of your answer.
> If two presidents have had the same surname, you must disambiguate
> appropriately.
>
> 1. "We will build our defenses beyond challenge, lest weakness
> invite challenge. We will confront weapons of mass destruction,
> so that a new century is spared new horrors. The enemies
> of liberty and our country should make no mistake: America
> remains engaged in the world, by history and by choice, shaping
> a balance of power that favors freedom."

Obama

>
> 2. "Through a crucible for the ages America has been tested anew,
> and America has risen to the challenge. Today we celebrate
> the triumph not of a candidate, but of a cause, the cause of
> democracy. The people -- the will of the people has been heard,
> and the will of the people has been heeded. We've learned again
> that democracy is precious, democracy is fragile. At this
> hour, my friends, democracy has prevailed."

Biden

>
> 3. "There is no longer a clear division between what is foreign
> and what is domestic. The world economy, the world environment,
> the world AIDS crisis, the world arms race: they affect us all.
> Today, as an old order passes, the new world is more free
> but less stable. Communism's collapse has called forth old
> animosities and new dangers. Clearly, America must continue
> to lead the world we did so much to make."

Clinton

>
> 4. "But we have no promise from God that our greatness will endure.
> We have been allowed by Him to seek greatness with the sweat
> of our hands and the strength of our spirit. I do not believe
> that the Great Society is the ordered, changeless, and sterile
> battalion of the ants. It is the excitement of becoming -- always
> becoming..."

Lyndon Johnson

>
> 5. "For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not
> a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and
> Hindus -- and nonbelievers. We are shaped by every language and
> culture, drawn from every end of this Earth. And because we have
> tasted the bitter swill of civil war and segregation and emerged
> from that dark chapter stronger and more united, we cannot help
> but believe that the old hatreds shall someday pass..."

G W Bush

>
> 6. "This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole
> truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly
> facing conditions in our country today. This great nation
> will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper.
> So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only
> thing we have to fear is -- fear itself."

Franklin Roosevelt

>
> 7. "...both sides overburdened by the cost of modern weapons, both
> rightly alarmed by the steady spread of the deadly atom, yet both
> racing to alter that uncertain balance of terror that stays the
> hand of mankind's final war. So let us begin anew, remembering
> on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness, and
> sincerity is always subject to proof. Let us never negotiate
> out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate."

Kennedy

>
> 8. "The economic ills we suffer have come upon us over several
> decades. They will not go away in days, weeks, or months, but
> they will go away. They will go away because we as Americans
> have the capacity now, as we've had in the past, to do whatever
> needs to be done to preserve this last and greatest bastion
> of freedom. In this present crisis, government is not the
> solution to our problem; government is the problem."

Reagan

>
> 9. "Together, we will determine the course of America and the world
> for many, many years to come. We will face challenges, we will
> confront hardships, but we will get the job done. Every 4 years,
> we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful
> transfer of power..."
>
> 10. "I have taken an oath today in the presence of God and my
> countrymen to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United
> States. And to that oath I now add this sacred commitment:
> I shall consecrate my Office, my energies, and all the wisdom
> I can summon to the cause of peace among nations. Let this
> message be heard by strong and weak alike..."

Truman

>
>
> * Game 3, Round 6 - Entertainment - Not Related To
>
> For each question we will describe two celebrities, mostly actors
> and actresses, who go by the same surname. It may or may not be
> their real name, but in any case, they are not related. We will
> always describe them in alphabetical order by first name, not that
> we expect that to help you.
>
> You must give *both their first names and their shared surname*,
> like "Chris and Lyndon Johnson", but you don't have to name them
> in order.
>
> 1. Her songs include "California Gurls" and "I Kissed a Girl".
> He's best known for a sitcom that ran from 1994 to 2004.
> To repeat, they aren't related but have the same surname;
> name both.
>
> 2. The woman has appeared in 8 movies where Woody Allen either
> starred or directed. The man's been in a number of superhero
> movies, and he was nominated -- but didn't win -- for Best
> Actor in the movie that did win Best Picture for 2014.

Keaton, Diane and Michael

>
> 3. One woman is known for falling in love with a vampire; the other
> publishes a magazine named after her, and has hosted two TV shows
> named after her, one before and one after her prison sentence.
>
> 4. One woman starred in a Hitchcock movie where she's killed in
> the first half; the other starred in, and won Best Actress for,
> the Best Picture winner for 1939.
>
> 5. She was "Unfaithful Under the Tuscan Sun" -- no, wait, those
> were two of her movies. He's starred in "The Producers" both
> on stage (winning a Tony) and on screen.
>
> 6. These two women have 5 Best Actress Oscars between them.

Hepburn, Katherine and Audrey

>
> 7. He won an Oscar for "Training Day"; she won a TV Guide Fan
> Favorite Award for "Scandal".
>
> 8. The first woman starred in "A Few Good Men", and met some bad
> men in "Disclosure" and "Indecent Proposal". The second one sang
> "I Wanna Be with You in My Pocket, Have a Little Faith in Me"
> -- oh, sorry, those were three separate titles.
>
> 9. He played himself as the title character of a sitcom, and
> currently hosts a long-running game show; she sang "All I Want
> for Christmas is You", and many other songs.
>
> 10. The first man starred as a secret agent on the original "I Spy";
> the second one had a recurring role as a secret agent on "JAG".
>


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Mark Brader (msb@vex.net) writes:
> * Game 3, Round 4 - Geography - US State License Plates
>
> We've had beers and bears, so now how about a round on bores? Well,
> maybe that would be too boring.
>
> So instead, please see the handout:
>
> http://www.vex.net/~msb/tmp/g3r4/plat.pdf
>
> and simply identify each US state from the plate and the slogan.
>
> I've sorted the round in order by the handout. There were two
> decoys, which are now interspersed with the questions: answer them
> if you like for fun, but for no points.
>
> 2. Live Free or Die.

Alabama

> 3. Great Faces, Great Places

South Dakota

> 4. Wild, Wonderful.

Montona

> 5. The Natural State.

Idaho

> 6. Ocean State.

Virginia

> 7 (decoy). First in Flight.

North Carolina

> 8. The First State.

Vermont

> 9. Land of Enchantment.

Indiana

> 10. Life Elevated.

Colorado

> 11. Constitution State.

Pennsylvania

> 12. Native America.

North Dakota

> * Game 3, Round 5 - Audio - The Inaugural Address
>
> 1. "We will build our defenses beyond challenge, lest weakness
> invite challenge. We will confront weapons of mass destruction,
> so that a new century is spared new horrors. The enemies
> of liberty and our country should make no mistake: America
> remains engaged in the world, by history and by choice, shaping
> a balance of power that favors freedom."

Thedore Roosevelt
> 2. "Through a crucible for the ages America has been tested anew,
> and America has risen to the challenge. Today we celebrate
> the triumph not of a candidate, but of a cause, the cause of
> democracy. The people -- the will of the people has been heard,
> and the will of the people has been heeded. We've learned again
> that democracy is precious, democracy is fragile. At this
> hour, my friends, democracy has prevailed."

Joe Biden
> 3. "There is no longer a clear division between what is foreign
> and what is domestic. The world economy, the world environment,
> the world AIDS crisis, the world arms race: they affect us all.
> Today, as an old order passes, the new world is more free
> but less stable. Communism's collapse has called forth old
> animosities and new dangers. Clearly, America must continue
> to lead the world we did so much to make."

Bill Clinton

> 4. "But we have no promise from God that our greatness will endure.
> We have been allowed by Him to seek greatness with the sweat
> of our hands and the strength of our spirit. I do not believe
> that the Great Society is the ordered, changeless, and sterile
> battalion of the ants. It is the excitement of becoming -- always
> becoming..."

Harry Truman
> 5. "For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not
> a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and
> Hindus -- and nonbelievers. We are shaped by every language and
> culture, drawn from every end of this Earth. And because we have
> tasted the bitter swill of civil war and segregation and emerged
> from that dark chapter stronger and more united, we cannot help
> but believe that the old hatreds shall someday pass..."

Barack Obama

> 6. "This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole
> truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly
> facing conditions in our country today. This great nation
> will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper.
> So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only
> thing we have to fear is -- fear itself."

Franklin D Roosevelt

> 7. "...both sides overburdened by the cost of modern weapons, both
> rightly alarmed by the steady spread of the deadly atom, yet both
> racing to alter that uncertain balance of terror that stays the
> hand of mankind's final war. So let us begin anew, remembering
> on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness, and
> sincerity is always subject to proof. Let us never negotiate
> out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate."

John F Kennedy
> 8. "The economic ills we suffer have come upon us over several
> decades. They will not go away in days, weeks, or months, but
> they will go away. They will go away because we as Americans
> have the capacity now, as we've had in the past, to do whatever
> needs to be done to preserve this last and greatest bastion
> of freedom. In this present crisis, government is not the
> solution to our problem; government is the problem."

Eisenhower
> 9. "Together, we will determine the course of America and the world
> for many, many years to come. We will face challenges, we will
> confront hardships, but we will get the job done. Every 4 years,
> we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful
> transfer of power..."

Nixon
> 10. "I have taken an oath today in the presence of God and my
> countrymen to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United
> States. And to that oath I now add this sacred commitment:
> I shall consecrate my Office, my energies, and all the wisdom
> I can summon to the cause of peace among nations. Let this
> message be heard by strong and weak alike..."

Trump

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On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 11:56:22 PM UTC-5, Mark Brader wrote:
> * Game 3, Round 4 - Geography - US State License Plates
>
> So instead, please see the handout:
>
> http://www.vex.net/~msb/tmp/g3r4/plat.pdf
>
> and simply identify each US state from the plate and the slogan.
>
> 1 (decoy). The Last Frontier.

Alaska

> 2. Live Free or Die.

New Hampshire
> 3. Great Faces, Great Places

South Dakota

> 4. Wild, Wonderful.

West Virginia

> 5. The Natural State.

Arkansas
> 6. Ocean State.

Maryland

> 7 (decoy). First in Flight.

North Carolina

> 8. The First State.

Delaware

> 9. Land of Enchantment.

New Mexico

> 10. Life Elevated.

Utah

> 11. Constitution State.

Connecticut

> 12. Native America.

North Dakota; Oklahoma

> * Game 3, Round 5 - Audio - The Inaugural Address
>
> Yes, it's an audio round without the audio. In the original game,
> of course, a clip of the speech was played. Here you will have
> a transcript of each clip.
>
> The last round was US states, and this one is US presidents.
> On each question, name the president who is speaking at his
> inauguration after being newly elected. For fun, you may also
> mention the year of the speech, but it's not part of your answer.
> If two presidents have had the same surname, you must disambiguate
> appropriately.
>
> 1. "We will build our defenses beyond challenge, lest weakness
> invite challenge. We will confront weapons of mass destruction,
> so that a new century is spared new horrors. The enemies
> of liberty and our country should make no mistake: America
> remains engaged in the world, by history and by choice, shaping
> a balance of power that favors freedom."

Donald Trump

> 2. "Through a crucible for the ages America has been tested anew,
> and America has risen to the challenge. Today we celebrate
> the triumph not of a candidate, but of a cause, the cause of
> democracy. The people -- the will of the people has been heard,
> and the will of the people has been heeded. We've learned again
> that democracy is precious, democracy is fragile. At this
> hour, my friends, democracy has prevailed."

Joe Biden

> 3. "There is no longer a clear division between what is foreign
> and what is domestic. The world economy, the world environment,
> the world AIDS crisis, the world arms race: they affect us all.
> Today, as an old order passes, the new world is more free
> but less stable. Communism's collapse has called forth old
> animosities and new dangers. Clearly, America must continue
> to lead the world we did so much to make."

Bill Clinton

> 4. "But we have no promise from God that our greatness will endure.
> We have been allowed by Him to seek greatness with the sweat
> of our hands and the strength of our spirit. I do not believe
> that the Great Society is the ordered, changeless, and sterile
> battalion of the ants. It is the excitement of becoming -- always
> becoming..."

Lyndon Johnson

> 5. "For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not
> a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and
> Hindus -- and nonbelievers. We are shaped by every language and
> culture, drawn from every end of this Earth. And because we have
> tasted the bitter swill of civil war and segregation and emerged
> from that dark chapter stronger and more united, we cannot help
> but believe that the old hatreds shall someday pass..."

Barack Obama

> 6. "This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole
> truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly
> facing conditions in our country today. This great nation
> will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper.
> So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only
> thing we have to fear is -- fear itself."

Franklin Roosevelt

> 7. "...both sides overburdened by the cost of modern weapons, both
> rightly alarmed by the steady spread of the deadly atom, yet both
> racing to alter that uncertain balance of terror that stays the
> hand of mankind's final war. So let us begin anew, remembering
> on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness, and
> sincerity is always subject to proof. Let us never negotiate
> out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate."

Dwight Eisenhower

> 8. "The economic ills we suffer have come upon us over several
> decades. They will not go away in days, weeks, or months, but
> they will go away. They will go away because we as Americans
> have the capacity now, as we've had in the past, to do whatever
> needs to be done to preserve this last and greatest bastion
> of freedom. In this present crisis, government is not the
> solution to our problem; government is the problem."

Ronald Reagan

> 9. "Together, we will determine the course of America and the world
> for many, many years to come. We will face challenges, we will
> confront hardships, but we will get the job done. Every 4 years,
> we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful
> transfer of power..."

John Kennedy; Richard Nixon

> 10. "I have taken an oath today in the presence of God and my
> countrymen to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United
> States. And to that oath I now add this sacred commitment:
> I shall consecrate my Office, my energies, and all the wisdom
> I can summon to the cause of peace among nations. Let this
> message be heard by strong and weak alike..."

Richard Nixon; John Kennedy

> * Game 3, Round 6 - Entertainment - Not Related To
>
> For each question we will describe two celebrities, mostly actors
> and actresses, who go by the same surname. It may or may not be
> their real name, but in any case, they are not related.
>
> You must give *both their first names and their shared surname*,
> like "Chris and Lyndon Johnson", but you don't have to name them
> in order.
>
> 1. Her songs include "California Gurls" and "I Kissed a Girl".
> He's best known for a sitcom that ran from 1994 to 2004.
> To repeat, they aren't related but have the same surname;
> name both.

Katy and Matthew Perry

> 2. The woman has appeared in 8 movies where Woody Allen either
> starred or directed. The man's been in a number of superhero
> movies, and he was nominated -- but didn't win -- for Best
> Actor in the movie that did win Best Picture for 2014.

Diane and Michael Keaton

> 3. One woman is known for falling in love with a vampire; the other
> publishes a magazine named after her, and has hosted two TV shows
> named after her, one before and one after her prison sentence.

Kristen and Martha Stewart
(I would have changed the last two references to "her" to "herself")

> 4. One woman starred in a Hitchcock movie where she's killed in
> the first half; the other starred in, and won Best Actress for,
> the Best Picture winner for 1939.

Janet and Vivien Leigh

> 5. She was "Unfaithful Under the Tuscan Sun" -- no, wait, those
> were two of her movies. He's starred in "The Producers" both
> on stage (winning a Tony) and on screen.

Diane and Nathan Lane

> 6. These two women have 5 Best Actress Oscars between them.

Audrey and Katharine Hepburn

> 7. He won an Oscar for "Training Day"; she won a TV Guide Fan
> Favorite Award for "Scandal".

Denzel and Kerry Washington

> 8. The first woman starred in "A Few Good Men", and met some bad
> men in "Disclosure" and "Indecent Proposal". The second one sang
> "I Wanna Be with You in My Pocket, Have a Little Faith in Me"
> -- oh, sorry, those were three separate titles.

Demi and Mandy Moore

> 9. He played himself as the title character of a sitcom, and
> currently hosts a long-running game show; she sang "All I Want
> for Christmas is You", and many other songs.

Drew and Mariah Carey

--
Joshua Kreitzer
gromit82@hotmail.com

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Mark Brader <msb@vex.net> wrote:

> * Game 3, Round 4 - Geography - US State License Plates

> 2. Live Free or Die.

New Hampshire

> 3. Great Faces, Great Places

South Dakota

> 4. Wild, Wonderful.

Colorado; Montana

> 5. The Natural State.

Idaho

> 6. Ocean State.

Rhode Island

> 8. The First State.

Delaware

> 9. Land of Enchantment.

New Mexico

> 10. Life Elevated.

Utah

> 11. Constitution State.

Connecticut

> 12. Native America.

Hawaii

> * Game 3, Round 5 - Audio - The Inaugural Address

> 1. "We will build our defenses beyond challenge, lest weakness
> invite challenge. We will confront weapons of mass destruction,
> so that a new century is spared new horrors. The enemies
> of liberty and our country should make no mistake: America
> remains engaged in the world, by history and by choice, shaping
> a balance of power that favors freedom."

George W. Bush; Obama

> 2. "Through a crucible for the ages America has been tested anew,
> and America has risen to the challenge. Today we celebrate
> the triumph not of a candidate, but of a cause, the cause of
> democracy. The people -- the will of the people has been heard,
> and the will of the people has been heeded. We've learned again
> that democracy is precious, democracy is fragile. At this
> hour, my friends, democracy has prevailed."

Biden

> 3. "There is no longer a clear division between what is foreign
> and what is domestic. The world economy, the world environment,
> the world AIDS crisis, the world arms race: they affect us all.
> Today, as an old order passes, the new world is more free
> but less stable. Communism's collapse has called forth old
> animosities and new dangers. Clearly, America must continue
> to lead the world we did so much to make."

Clinton

> 4. "But we have no promise from God that our greatness will endure.
> We have been allowed by Him to seek greatness with the sweat
> of our hands and the strength of our spirit. I do not believe
> that the Great Society is the ordered, changeless, and sterile
> battalion of the ants. It is the excitement of becoming -- always
> becoming..."

Lyndon Johnson

> 5. "For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not
> a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and
> Hindus -- and nonbelievers. We are shaped by every language and
> culture, drawn from every end of this Earth. And because we have
> tasted the bitter swill of civil war and segregation and emerged
> from that dark chapter stronger and more united, we cannot help
> but believe that the old hatreds shall someday pass..."

Obama

> 6. "This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole
> truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly
> facing conditions in our country today. This great nation
> will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper.
> So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only
> thing we have to fear is -- fear itself."

Franklin Roosevelt

> 7. "...both sides overburdened by the cost of modern weapons, both
> rightly alarmed by the steady spread of the deadly atom, yet both
> racing to alter that uncertain balance of terror that stays the
> hand of mankind's final war. So let us begin anew, remembering
> on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness, and
> sincerity is always subject to proof. Let us never negotiate
> out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate."

George H. W. Bush

> 8. "The economic ills we suffer have come upon us over several
> decades. They will not go away in days, weeks, or months, but
> they will go away. They will go away because we as Americans
> have the capacity now, as we've had in the past, to do whatever
> needs to be done to preserve this last and greatest bastion
> of freedom. In this present crisis, government is not the
> solution to our problem; government is the problem."

Reagan

> 9. "Together, we will determine the course of America and the world
> for many, many years to come. We will face challenges, we will
> confront hardships, but we will get the job done. Every 4 years,
> we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful
> transfer of power..."

Hoover

> 10. "I have taken an oath today in the presence of God and my
> countrymen to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United
> States. And to that oath I now add this sacred commitment:
> I shall consecrate my Office, my energies, and all the wisdom
> I can summon to the cause of peace among nations. Let this
> message be heard by strong and weak alike..."

Carter; Truman

> * Game 3, Round 6 - Entertainment - Not Related To

> 1. Her songs include "California Gurls" and "I Kissed a Girl".
> He's best known for a sitcom that ran from 1994 to 2004.
> To repeat, they aren't related but have the same surname;
> name both.

Katy and Matthew Perry

> 2. The woman has appeared in 8 movies where Woody Allen either
> starred or directed. The man's been in a number of superhero
> movies, and he was nominated -- but didn't win -- for Best
> Actor in the movie that did win Best Picture for 2014.

Diane and Michael Keaton

> 3. One woman is known for falling in love with a vampire; the other
> publishes a magazine named after her, and has hosted two TV shows
> named after her, one before and one after her prison sentence.

Kristin and Martha Stewart

> 4. One woman starred in a Hitchcock movie where she's killed in
> the first half; the other starred in, and won Best Actress for,
> the Best Picture winner for 1939.

Janet and Vivien Leigh

> 5. She was "Unfaithful Under the Tuscan Sun" -- no, wait, those
> were two of her movies. He's starred in "The Producers" both
> on stage (winning a Tony) and on screen.

Diane and Nathan Lane

> 6. These two women have 5 Best Actress Oscars between them.

Katherine and Audrey Hepburn

> 7. He won an Oscar for "Training Day"; she won a TV Guide Fan
> Favorite Award for "Scandal".

Denzel and Kerry Washington

> 9. He played himself as the title character of a sitcom, and
> currently hosts a long-running game show; she sang "All I Want
> for Christmas is You", and many other songs.

Drew and Mariah Carey

--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum tool@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."

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On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 12:56:22 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2023-10-02,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of the Usual Suspects and
> are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have
> been retyped and/or edited by me. The posting and tabulation of
> current-events questions is independent of the concurrent posting
> of other rounds. For further information please see my 2023-05-24
> companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
> (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> I wrote two of these rounds.
>
>
> * Game 3, Round 4 - Geography - US State License Plates
>
> We've had beers and bears, so now how about a round on bores? Well,
> maybe that would be too boring.
>
> So instead, please see the handout:
>
> http://www.vex.net/~msb/tmp/g3r4/plat.pdf
>
> and simply identify each US state from the plate and the slogan.
>
> I've sorted the round in order by the handout. There were two
> decoys, which are now interspersed with the questions: answer them
> if you like for fun, but for no points.
>
> 1 (decoy). The Last Frontier.

alaska

> 2. Live Free or Die.

new hampshire

> 3. Great Faces, Great Places

south dakota

> 4. Wild, Wonderful.

west virginia

> 5. The Natural State.

arkansas

> 6. Ocean State.

rhode island

> 7 (decoy). First in Flight.

north carolina

> 8. The First State.

delaware

> 9. Land of Enchantment.

new mexico

> 10. Life Elevated.

utah

> 11. Constitution State.

connecticut

> 12. Native America.

oklahoma

>
>
> * Game 3, Round 5 - Audio - The Inaugural Address
>
> Yes, it's an audio round without the audio. In the original game,
> of course, a clip of the speech was played. Here you will have
> a transcript of each clip.
>
> The last round was US states, and this one is US presidents.
> On each question, name the president who is speaking at his
> inauguration after being newly elected. For fun, you may also
> mention the year of the speech, but it's not part of your answer.
> If two presidents have had the same surname, you must disambiguate
> appropriately.
>
> 1. "We will build our defenses beyond challenge, lest weakness
> invite challenge. We will confront weapons of mass destruction,
> so that a new century is spared new horrors. The enemies
> of liberty and our country should make no mistake: America
> remains engaged in the world, by history and by choice, shaping
> a balance of power that favors freedom."

george w bush

> 2. "Through a crucible for the ages America has been tested anew,
> and America has risen to the challenge. Today we celebrate
> the triumph not of a candidate, but of a cause, the cause of
> democracy. The people -- the will of the people has been heard,
> and the will of the people has been heeded. We've learned again
> that democracy is precious, democracy is fragile. At this
> hour, my friends, democracy has prevailed."

joe biden

> 3. "There is no longer a clear division between what is foreign
> and what is domestic. The world economy, the world environment,
> the world AIDS crisis, the world arms race: they affect us all.
> Today, as an old order passes, the new world is more free
> but less stable. Communism's collapse has called forth old
> animosities and new dangers. Clearly, America must continue
> to lead the world we did so much to make."

bill clinton

> 4. "But we have no promise from God that our greatness will endure.
> We have been allowed by Him to seek greatness with the sweat
> of our hands and the strength of our spirit. I do not believe
> that the Great Society is the ordered, changeless, and sterile
> battalion of the ants. It is the excitement of becoming -- always
> becoming..."

lyndon johnson

> 5. "For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not
> a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and
> Hindus -- and nonbelievers. We are shaped by every language and
> culture, drawn from every end of this Earth. And because we have
> tasted the bitter swill of civil war and segregation and emerged
> from that dark chapter stronger and more united, we cannot help
> but believe that the old hatreds shall someday pass..."

obama

> 6. "This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole
> truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly
> facing conditions in our country today. This great nation
> will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper.
> So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only
> thing we have to fear is -- fear itself."

franklin roosevelt

> 7. "...both sides overburdened by the cost of modern weapons, both
> rightly alarmed by the steady spread of the deadly atom, yet both
> racing to alter that uncertain balance of terror that stays the
> hand of mankind's final war. So let us begin anew, remembering
> on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness, and
> sincerity is always subject to proof. Let us never negotiate
> out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate."

john kennedy

> 8. "The economic ills we suffer have come upon us over several
> decades. They will not go away in days, weeks, or months, but
> they will go away. They will go away because we as Americans
> have the capacity now, as we've had in the past, to do whatever
> needs to be done to preserve this last and greatest bastion
> of freedom. In this present crisis, government is not the
> solution to our problem; government is the problem."

Ronald Reagan

> 9. "Together, we will determine the course of America and the world
> for many, many years to come. We will face challenges, we will
> confront hardships, but we will get the job done. Every 4 years,
> we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful
> transfer of power..."

donald trump

> 10. "I have taken an oath today in the presence of God and my
> countrymen to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United
> States. And to that oath I now add this sacred commitment:
> I shall consecrate my Office, my energies, and all the wisdom
> I can summon to the cause of peace among nations. Let this
> message be heard by strong and weak alike..."

richard nixon

>
> * Game 3, Round 6 - Entertainment - Not Related To
>
> For each question we will describe two celebrities, mostly actors
> and actresses, who go by the same surname. It may or may not be
> their real name, but in any case, they are not related. We will
> always describe them in alphabetical order by first name, not that
> we expect that to help you.
>
> You must give *both their first names and their shared surname*,
> like "Chris and Lyndon Johnson", but you don't have to name them
> in order.
>
> 1. Her songs include "California Gurls" and "I Kissed a Girl".
> He's best known for a sitcom that ran from 1994 to 2004.
> To repeat, they aren't related but have the same surname;
> name both.

katy and matthew perry [bad timing]

> 2. The woman has appeared in 8 movies where Woody Allen either
> starred or directed. The man's been in a number of superhero
> movies, and he was nominated -- but didn't win -- for Best
> Actor in the movie that did win Best Picture for 2014.

diane and michael keaton

> 3. One woman is known for falling in love with a vampire; the other
> publishes a magazine named after her, and has hosted two TV shows
> named after her, one before and one after her prison sentence.

kristin and martha stewart

> 4. One woman starred in a Hitchcock movie where she's killed in
> the first half; the other starred in, and won Best Actress for,
> the Best Picture winner for 1939.

janet and vivian leigh

> 5. She was "Unfaithful Under the Tuscan Sun" -- no, wait, those
> were two of her movies. He's starred in "The Producers" both
> on stage (winning a Tony) and on screen.

diane and nathan lane


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Mark Brader:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2023-10-02,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information
> please see my 2023-05-24 companion posting on "Questions from the
> Canadian Inquisition (QFTCI*)".

> I wrote two of these rounds.

The audio round and the entertainment round.

> * Game 3, Round 4 - Geography - US State License Plates

> We've had beers and bears, so now how about a round on bores? Well,
> maybe that would be too boring.

After adding that passage to the preamble, it occurred to me that
a round on tunnels would have been a perfectly reasonable idea,
but at that point it was too late to actually do it. Oh well.

> So instead, please see the handout:

> http://www.vex.net/~msb/tmp/g3r4/plat.pdf

> and simply identify each US state from the plate and the slogan.

> I've sorted the round in order by the handout. There were two
> decoys, which are now interspersed with the questions: answer them
> if you like for fun, but for no points.

> 1 (decoy). The Last Frontier.

Alaska. Dan Tilque, Joshua, and Stephen got this.

> 2. Live Free or Die.

New Hampshire. 4 for Dan Tilque, Joshua, Dan Blum, and Stephen.

> 3. Great Faces, Great Places

South Dakota. 4 for everyone -- Dan Tilque, Erland, Joshua, Dan Blum,
and Stephen.

> 4. Wild, Wonderful.

West Virginia. 4 for Dan Tilque, Joshua, and Stephen.

> 5. The Natural State.

Arkansas. 4 for Dan Tilque, Joshua, and Stephen.

Note the diamond in the background. Arkansas has a state park where
visitors are allowed to search for and keep any minerals they can
find and remove (without power tools), including diamonds. See:
http://www.arkansasstateparks.com/parks/crater-diamonds-state-park/digging-for-diamonds

> 6. Ocean State.

Rhode Island. 4 for Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, and Stephen.

> 7 (decoy). First in Flight.

North Carolina. Dan Tilque, Erland, Joshua, and Stephen got this.

> 8. The First State.

Delaware. 4 for Dan Tilque, Joshua, Dan Blum, and Stephen.

> 9. Land of Enchantment.

New Mexico. 4 for Dan Tilque, Joshua, Dan Blum, and Stephen.

> 10. Life Elevated.

Utah. 4 for Dan Tilque, Joshua, Dan Blum, and Stephen.

> 11. Constitution State.

Connecticut. 4 for Dan Tilque, Joshua, Dan Blum, and Stephen.

> 12. Native America.

Oklahoma. 4 for Dan Tilque and Stephen. 2 for Joshua.

> * Game 3, Round 5 - Audio - The Inaugural Address

> Yes, it's an audio round without the audio. In the original game,
> of course, a clip of the speech was played. Here you will have
> a transcript of each clip.

This, in its original form, was the easiest round in the original
game and is a likely candidate for easiest round in the whole season.

> The last round was US states, and this one is US presidents.
> On each question, name the president who is speaking at his
> inauguration after being newly elected. For fun, you may also
> mention the year of the speech, but it's not part of your answer.
> If two presidents have had the same surname, you must disambiguate
> appropriately.

> 1. "We will build our defenses beyond challenge, lest weakness
> invite challenge. We will confront weapons of mass destruction,
> so that a new century is spared new horrors. The enemies
> of liberty and our country should make no mistake: America
> remains engaged in the world, by history and by choice, shaping
> a balance of power that favors freedom."

George W. Bush. (Requiring "W." or accepting George Bush II or Jr.)
(2001). 4 for Stephen. 3 for Dan Blum.

> 2. "Through a crucible for the ages America has been tested anew,
> and America has risen to the challenge. Today we celebrate
> the triumph not of a candidate, but of a cause, the cause of
> democracy. The people -- the will of the people has been heard,
> and the will of the people has been heeded. We've learned again
> that democracy is precious, democracy is fragile. At this
> hour, my friends, democracy has prevailed."

Joe (Joseph) Biden (2021). 4 for everyone.

> 3. "There is no longer a clear division between what is foreign
> and what is domestic. The world economy, the world environment,
> the world AIDS crisis, the world arms race: they affect us all.
> Today, as an old order passes, the new world is more free
> but less stable. Communism's collapse has called forth old
> animosities and new dangers. Clearly, America must continue
> to lead the world we did so much to make."

Bill (William) Clinton (1993). 4 for everyone.

> 4. "But we have no promise from God that our greatness will endure.
> We have been allowed by Him to seek greatness with the sweat
> of our hands and the strength of our spirit. I do not believe
> that the Great Society is the ordered, changeless, and sterile
> battalion of the ants. It is the excitement of becoming -- always
> becoming..."

Lyndon Johnson. (Requiring "Lyndon" or accepting LBJ.) (1965).
4 for Dan Tilque, Joshua, Dan Blum, and Stephen.

> 5. "For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not
> a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and
> Hindus -- and nonbelievers. We are shaped by every language and
> culture, drawn from every end of this Earth. And because we have
> tasted the bitter swill of civil war and segregation and emerged
> from that dark chapter stronger and more united, we cannot help
> but believe that the old hatreds shall someday pass..."

Barack Obama (2009). 4 for Erland, Joshua, Dan Blum, and Stephen.

> 6. "This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole
> truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly
> facing conditions in our country today. This great nation
> will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper.
> So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only
> thing we have to fear is -- fear itself."

Franklin Roosevelt. (Requiring "Franklin" or accepting FDR.)
(1933). 4 for everyone.

> 7. "...both sides overburdened by the cost of modern weapons, both
> rightly alarmed by the steady spread of the deadly atom, yet both
> racing to alter that uncertain balance of terror that stays the
> hand of mankind's final war. So let us begin anew, remembering
> on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness, and
> sincerity is always subject to proof. Let us never negotiate
> out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate."

John Kennedy. (Accepting JFK.) (1961). 4 for Dan Tilque, Erland,
and Stephen.

> 8. "The economic ills we suffer have come upon us over several
> decades. They will not go away in days, weeks, or months, but
> they will go away. They will go away because we as Americans
> have the capacity now, as we've had in the past, to do whatever
> needs to be done to preserve this last and greatest bastion
> of freedom. In this present crisis, government is not the
> solution to our problem; government is the problem."

Ronald Reagan (1981). 4 for Dan Tilque, Joshua, Dan Blum,
and Stephen.

> 9. "Together, we will determine the course of America and the world
> for many, many years to come. We will face challenges, we will
> confront hardships, but we will get the job done. Every 4 years,
> we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful
> transfer of power..."

Donald Trump (2017). 4 for Stephen.

> 10. "I have taken an oath today in the presence of God and my
> countrymen to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United
> States. And to that oath I now add this sacred commitment:
> I shall consecrate my Office, my energies, and all the wisdom
> I can summon to the cause of peace among nations. Let this
> message be heard by strong and weak alike..."

Richard Nixon (1969). 4 for Stephen. 3 for Joshua.

> * Game 3, Round 6 - Entertainment - Not Related To

> For each question we will describe two celebrities, mostly actors
> and actresses, who go by the same surname. It may or may not be
> their real name, but in any case, they are not related. We will
> always describe them in alphabetical order by first name, not that
> we expect that to help you.

> You must give *both their first names and their shared surname*,
> like "Chris and Lyndon Johnson", but you don't have to name them
> in order.

> 1. Her songs include "California Gurls" and "I Kissed a Girl".
> He's best known for a sitcom that ran from 1994 to 2004.
> To repeat, they aren't related but have the same surname;
> name both.

Katy and Matthew Perry. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, and Stephen.

("Friends". Well, he was still alive when I wrote the question.)


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These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2023-10-02,
and should be interpreted accordingly.

On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.

All questions were written by members of the Usual Suspects and
are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have
been retyped and/or edited by me. The posting and tabulation of
current-events questions is independent of the concurrent posting
of other rounds. For further information please see my 2023-05-24
companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
(QFTCI*)".

I wrote one question in one of these rounds.

* Game 4, Round 7 - Literature - Italian Literature

1. Who is the pseudonymous author of the four so-called "Neapolitan
novels", dealing with two women's friendship from childhood
to old age, published between 2011 and 2014 and beginning with
"My Brilliant Friend"?

2. Who is the philosopher, semiotician, and cultural critic who
wrote the 1980 novel "The Name of the Rose", followed in 1988 by
"Foucault's ['Foo-koze'] Pendulum"?

3. Dante Alighieri's ["a-league-yair-eez"] 14th-century allegorical
poem "The Divine Comedy" is still one of the most influential
works of European literature. It is divided into three
sections of 33 cantos each, plus a prologue. Name *any one*
of the three main sections.

4. After initial popularity, Dante's works were overshadowed
by those of a younger contemporary, a humanist and lyric poet.
He wrote in both Latin and Italian; in the latter, perhaps
his best-known work is "Fragments of Vernacular Matters",
a collection of over 300 poems. Name him.

5. Who is the Jewish Italian author who wrote about his time at
Auschwitz in "If This is a Man"? A trained chemist, he later
wrote a book of short stories called "The Periodic Table".

6. Another classic of the 14th century was a 100-part series
of stories by 10 narrators, told over 10 days during a time
of plague. It is sometimes referred to as "The Human Comedy" by
contrast with the work of Dante. Name this work or its author.

7. A one-hit wonder of sorts was Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa,
whose only novel, published in 1958, just after his death,
became one of the most celebrated in Italian literature.
Name it, in English or Italian.

8. One of the greatest novels of the Italian Romantic period is
Alessandro Manzoni's 1825-27 novel, set during the Thirty Years'
War, and telling the story of two young people's frustrated
attempt to marry. Name it, in English or Italian.

9. The interplay of "vertu" (meaning individual initiative) and
chance was one of the themes in the works of this Florentine.
He published, among other works, a 7-volume "The Art of War"
in 1521, but a little squib he dashed off in 1513 was enough
to immortalize him.

10. The recipient of the 1936 Nobel Prize for Literature wrote
some 40 plays, but, in the English-speaking world at any rate,
one would be hard-pressed to hear mention of any but a 1921 work
that functioned as an absurdist meta-commentary on drama itself.
Name either the play or its author.

* Game 3, Round 8 - Sports - Obscure Rules

1. If a baseball fielder throws his glove or cap and hits the
batted ball, what is the penalty?

2. If a baseball pitcher is ambidextrous, when may he, and when
may he not, change which hand he's pitching with?

3. After the Toronto Argonauts score a touchdown against the
Hamilton Tiger-Cats, they decide to go for 2 points on
the convert. Chad Kelly tries a pass to Cam Phillips in
the end zone, but Hamilton defender Tunde Adeleke ["TUN-day
a-DELL-eck-ay"] intercepts it and runs the ball back an amazing
117 yards to reach Toronto's end zone. What is the result?

4. In 2006, which NFL quarterback became the first player since
1941 to score using a drop-kick?

5. In a FIFA soccer match, how long may the goalie hold the ball
before putting it back into play?

6. In golf, a player who turns in a scorecard claiming less strokes
than were actually taken is disqualified. When happens if the
scorecard claims more strokes than were actually taken?

7. Where is the farthest from his net that an NHL goalie is allowed
to play the puck? (In terms of ice markings, not distance.)

8. In Australian football, what offense is punished by both a
50-meter penalty and a free kick?

9. If your tennis opponent's hat distracts you by flying off during
play, you may either play the ball or else ask the referee
for what?

10. How long after an NBA player gets the ball from the referee
is he allowed to take his free throw?

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Mark Brader (msb@vex.net) writes:
> * Game 4, Round 7 - Literature - Italian Literature
>
> 2. Who is the philosopher, semiotician, and cultural critic who
> wrote the 1980 novel "The Name of the Rose", followed in 1988 by
> "Foucault's ['Foo-koze'] Pendulum"?

Umberto Eco
> 9. The interplay of "vertu" (meaning individual initiative) and
> chance was one of the themes in the works of this Florentine.
> He published, among other works, a 7-volume "The Art of War"
> in 1521, but a little squib he dashed off in 1513 was enough
> to immortalize him.

Macchiavelli
> * Game 3, Round 8 - Sports - Obscure Rules
>
> 5. In a FIFA soccer match, how long may the goalie hold the ball
> before putting it back into play?

More or less forever, it seems. At least if they bounce it every one
in a while.

It's not uncommon to see a goal keeper to get a yellow card when delaying
the shoot-in after the ball has gone out. But I can't recall ever seeing
a keep getting card for being slow with putting a ball in play.
> 6. In golf, a player who turns in a scorecard claiming less strokes
> than were actually taken is disqualified. When happens if the
> scorecard claims more strokes than were actually taken?

The scorecard wins.

> 7. Where is the farthest from his net that an NHL goalie is allowed
> to play the puck? (In terms of ice markings, not distance.)

The nearest blue line.
> 9. If your tennis opponent's hat distracts you by flying off during
> play, you may either play the ball or else ask the referee
> for what?

The ball to be replayed.

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 by: Dan Blum - Wed, 1 Nov 2023 21:08 UTC

Mark Brader <msb@vex.net> wrote:

> * Game 4, Round 7 - Literature - Italian Literature

> 1. Who is the pseudonymous author of the four so-called "Neapolitan
> novels", dealing with two women's friendship from childhood
> to old age, published between 2011 and 2014 and beginning with
> "My Brilliant Friend"?

Ferrante

> 2. Who is the philosopher, semiotician, and cultural critic who
> wrote the 1980 novel "The Name of the Rose", followed in 1988 by
> "Foucault's ['Foo-koze'] Pendulum"?

Umberto Eco

> 3. Dante Alighieri's ["a-league-yair-eez"] 14th-century allegorical
> poem "The Divine Comedy" is still one of the most influential
> works of European literature. It is divided into three
> sections of 33 cantos each, plus a prologue. Name *any one*
> of the three main sections.

Inferno

> 4. After initial popularity, Dante's works were overshadowed
> by those of a younger contemporary, a humanist and lyric poet.
> He wrote in both Latin and Italian; in the latter, perhaps
> his best-known work is "Fragments of Vernacular Matters",
> a collection of over 300 poems. Name him.

Petrarch

> 5. Who is the Jewish Italian author who wrote about his time at
> Auschwitz in "If This is a Man"? A trained chemist, he later
> wrote a book of short stories called "The Periodic Table".

Primo Levi

> 6. Another classic of the 14th century was a 100-part series
> of stories by 10 narrators, told over 10 days during a time
> of plague. It is sometimes referred to as "The Human Comedy" by
> contrast with the work of Dante. Name this work or its author.

Decameron

> 9. The interplay of "vertu" (meaning individual initiative) and
> chance was one of the themes in the works of this Florentine.
> He published, among other works, a 7-volume "The Art of War"
> in 1521, but a little squib he dashed off in 1513 was enough
> to immortalize him.

Machiavelli

> * Game 3, Round 8 - Sports - Obscure Rules

> 6. In golf, a player who turns in a scorecard claiming less strokes
> than were actually taken is disqualified. When happens if the
> scorecard claims more strokes than were actually taken?

the claimed number is used

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 by: swp - Wed, 1 Nov 2023 22:59 UTC

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 11:34:32 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2023-10-02,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of the Usual Suspects and
> are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have
> been retyped and/or edited by me. The posting and tabulation of
> current-events questions is independent of the concurrent posting
> of other rounds. For further information please see my 2023-05-24
> companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
> (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> I wrote one question in one of these rounds.
>
>
> * Game 4, Round 7 - Literature - Italian Literature
>
> 1. Who is the pseudonymous author of the four so-called "Neapolitan
> novels", dealing with two women's friendship from childhood
> to old age, published between 2011 and 2014 and beginning with
> "My Brilliant Friend"?

elena ferrante

> 2. Who is the philosopher, semiotician, and cultural critic who
> wrote the 1980 novel "The Name of the Rose", followed in 1988 by
> "Foucault's ['Foo-koze'] Pendulum"?

umberto eco

> 3. Dante Alighieri's ["a-league-yair-eez"] 14th-century allegorical
> poem "The Divine Comedy" is still one of the most influential
> works of European literature. It is divided into three
> sections of 33 cantos each, plus a prologue. Name *any one*
> of the three main sections.

paradiso ; inferno

> 4. After initial popularity, Dante's works were overshadowed
> by those of a younger contemporary, a humanist and lyric poet.
> He wrote in both Latin and Italian; in the latter, perhaps
> his best-known work is "Fragments of Vernacular Matters",
> a collection of over 300 poems. Name him.

petrarch

> 5. Who is the Jewish Italian author who wrote about his time at
> Auschwitz in "If This is a Man"? A trained chemist, he later
> wrote a book of short stories called "The Periodic Table".

levi?

> 6. Another classic of the 14th century was a 100-part series
> of stories by 10 narrators, told over 10 days during a time
> of plague. It is sometimes referred to as "The Human Comedy" by
> contrast with the work of Dante. Name this work or its author.

balzac?

> 7. A one-hit wonder of sorts was Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa,
> whose only novel, published in 1958, just after his death,
> became one of the most celebrated in Italian literature.
> Name it, in English or Italian.

the leopard?

> 8. One of the greatest novels of the Italian Romantic period is
> Alessandro Manzoni's 1825-27 novel, set during the Thirty Years'
> War, and telling the story of two young people's frustrated
> attempt to marry. Name it, in English or Italian.

the betrothed?

> 9. The interplay of "vertu" (meaning individual initiative) and
> chance was one of the themes in the works of this Florentine.
> He published, among other works, a 7-volume "The Art of War"
> in 1521, but a little squib he dashed off in 1513 was enough
> to immortalize him.

machiavelli

> 10. The recipient of the 1936 Nobel Prize for Literature wrote
> some 40 plays, but, in the English-speaking world at any rate,
> one would be hard-pressed to hear mention of any but a 1921 work
> that functioned as an absurdist meta-commentary on drama itself.
> Name either the play or its author.

o'neill?

[way too many guesses on this round, and I used every name I know and one from a tv show my wife liked]

>
> * Game 3, Round 8 - Sports - Obscure Rules
>
> 1. If a baseball fielder throws his glove or cap and hits the
> batted ball, what is the penalty?

all runners are safe and awarded extra bases [do I need to include that the batter is a runner?]

> 2. If a baseball pitcher is ambidextrous, when may he, and when
> may he not, change which hand he's pitching with?

he has to clearly show in some manner which arm he is throwing with before the batter gets in the box

> 3. After the Toronto Argonauts score a touchdown against the
> Hamilton Tiger-Cats, they decide to go for 2 points on
> the convert. Chad Kelly tries a pass to Cam Phillips in
> the end zone, but Hamilton defender Tunde Adeleke ["TUN-day
> a-DELL-eck-ay"] intercepts it and runs the ball back an amazing
> 117 yards to reach Toronto's end zone. What is the result?

2 points for hamilton?

> 4. In 2006, which NFL quarterback became the first player since
> 1941 to score using a drop-kick?

doug flutie [he lives near my brother, we've met]

> 5. In a FIFA soccer match, how long may the goalie hold the ball
> before putting it back into play?

um ... 6 seconds?

> 6. In golf, a player who turns in a scorecard claiming less strokes
> than were actually taken is disqualified. When happens if the
> scorecard claims more strokes than were actually taken?

you get that score?

> 7. Where is the farthest from his net that an NHL goalie is allowed
> to play the puck? (In terms of ice markings, not distance.)

blue line ; red line

> 8. In Australian football, what offense is punished by both a
> 50-meter penalty and a free kick?

arguing with the ref ; striking the ref

> 9. If your tennis opponent's hat distracts you by flying off during
> play, you may either play the ball or else ask the referee
> for what?

to start over on that point?? [seriously, this is a thing? hat distraction?]

> 10. How long after an NBA player gets the ball from the referee
> is he allowed to take his free throw?

10 seconds ; 6 seconds

> --
> Mark Brader, Toronto | "Wait, was that me? That was pretty good!"
> m...@vex.net | --Steve Summit
>
> My text in this article is in the public domain.

swp, who wouldn't mind seeing a before & after category again

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 by: Joshua Kreitzer - Thu, 2 Nov 2023 01:01 UTC

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 10:34:32 AM UTC-5, Mark Brader wrote:
> * Game 4, Round 7 - Literature - Italian Literature
>
> 2. Who is the philosopher, semiotician, and cultural critic who
> wrote the 1980 novel "The Name of the Rose", followed in 1988 by
> "Foucault's ['Foo-koze'] Pendulum"?

Eco

> 3. Dante Alighieri's ["a-league-yair-eez"] 14th-century allegorical
> poem "The Divine Comedy" is still one of the most influential
> works of European literature. It is divided into three
> sections of 33 cantos each, plus a prologue. Name *any one*
> of the three main sections.

"Inferno"

> 5. Who is the Jewish Italian author who wrote about his time at
> Auschwitz in "If This is a Man"? A trained chemist, he later
> wrote a book of short stories called "The Periodic Table".

Levi
> 6. Another classic of the 14th century was a 100-part series
> of stories by 10 narrators, told over 10 days during a time
> of plague. It is sometimes referred to as "The Human Comedy" by
> contrast with the work of Dante. Name this work or its author.

"The Decameron"

> 7. A one-hit wonder of sorts was Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa,
> whose only novel, published in 1958, just after his death,
> became one of the most celebrated in Italian literature.
> Name it, in English or Italian.

"The Leopard"

> 9. The interplay of "vertu" (meaning individual initiative) and
> chance was one of the themes in the works of this Florentine.
> He published, among other works, a 7-volume "The Art of War"
> in 1521, but a little squib he dashed off in 1513 was enough
> to immortalize him.

Machiavelli
> 10. The recipient of the 1936 Nobel Prize for Literature wrote
> some 40 plays, but, in the English-speaking world at any rate,
> one would be hard-pressed to hear mention of any but a 1921 work
> that functioned as an absurdist meta-commentary on drama itself.
> Name either the play or its author.

"Six Characters in Search of an Author"

> * Game 3, Round 8 - Sports - Obscure Rules
>
> 2. If a baseball pitcher is ambidextrous, when may he, and when
> may he not, change which hand he's pitching with?

he can change between at-bats, but not during an at-bat

> 6. In golf, a player who turns in a scorecard claiming less strokes
> than were actually taken is disqualified. When happens if the
> scorecard claims more strokes than were actually taken?

the player is charged with the number of strokes on the scorecard, that is, the higher number of strokes becomes the player's score
> 10. How long after an NBA player gets the ball from the referee
> is he allowed to take his free throw?

5 seconds; 10 seconds

--
Joshua Kreitzer
gromit82@hotmail.com

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 by: Dan Tilque - Thu, 2 Nov 2023 06:12 UTC

On 11/1/23 08:34, Mark Brader wrote:
>
> I wrote one question in one of these rounds.
>
>
> * Game 4, Round 7 - Literature - Italian Literature
>
> 1. Who is the pseudonymous author of the four so-called "Neapolitan
> novels", dealing with two women's friendship from childhood
> to old age, published between 2011 and 2014 and beginning with
> "My Brilliant Friend"?
>
> 2. Who is the philosopher, semiotician, and cultural critic who
> wrote the 1980 novel "The Name of the Rose", followed in 1988 by
> "Foucault's ['Foo-koze'] Pendulum"?

Eco

>
> 3. Dante Alighieri's ["a-league-yair-eez"] 14th-century allegorical
> poem "The Divine Comedy" is still one of the most influential
> works of European literature. It is divided into three
> sections of 33 cantos each, plus a prologue. Name *any one*
> of the three main sections.

Purgatorio

>
> 4. After initial popularity, Dante's works were overshadowed
> by those of a younger contemporary, a humanist and lyric poet.
> He wrote in both Latin and Italian; in the latter, perhaps
> his best-known work is "Fragments of Vernacular Matters",
> a collection of over 300 poems. Name him.
>
> 5. Who is the Jewish Italian author who wrote about his time at
> Auschwitz in "If This is a Man"? A trained chemist, he later
> wrote a book of short stories called "The Periodic Table".
>
> 6. Another classic of the 14th century was a 100-part series
> of stories by 10 narrators, told over 10 days during a time
> of plague. It is sometimes referred to as "The Human Comedy" by
> contrast with the work of Dante. Name this work or its author.
>
> 7. A one-hit wonder of sorts was Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa,
> whose only novel, published in 1958, just after his death,
> became one of the most celebrated in Italian literature.
> Name it, in English or Italian.
>
> 8. One of the greatest novels of the Italian Romantic period is
> Alessandro Manzoni's 1825-27 novel, set during the Thirty Years'
> War, and telling the story of two young people's frustrated
> attempt to marry. Name it, in English or Italian.
>
> 9. The interplay of "vertu" (meaning individual initiative) and
> chance was one of the themes in the works of this Florentine.
> He published, among other works, a 7-volume "The Art of War"
> in 1521, but a little squib he dashed off in 1513 was enough
> to immortalize him.

Machiavelli

>
> 10. The recipient of the 1936 Nobel Prize for Literature wrote
> some 40 plays, but, in the English-speaking world at any rate,
> one would be hard-pressed to hear mention of any but a 1921 work
> that functioned as an absurdist meta-commentary on drama itself.
> Name either the play or its author.
>
>
> * Game 3, Round 8 - Sports - Obscure Rules
>
> 1. If a baseball fielder throws his glove or cap and hits the
> batted ball, what is the penalty?

runners advance one base

>
> 2. If a baseball pitcher is ambidextrous, when may he, and when
> may he not, change which hand he's pitching with?

he can change between batters or before any strikes are counted against
the current batter, otherwise not

>
> 3. After the Toronto Argonauts score a touchdown against the
> Hamilton Tiger-Cats, they decide to go for 2 points on
> the convert. Chad Kelly tries a pass to Cam Phillips in
> the end zone, but Hamilton defender Tunde Adeleke ["TUN-day
> a-DELL-eck-ay"] intercepts it and runs the ball back an amazing
> 117 yards to reach Toronto's end zone. What is the result?

2 points for Hamilton

>
> 4. In 2006, which NFL quarterback became the first player since
> 1941 to score using a drop-kick?

Rogers

>
> 5. In a FIFA soccer match, how long may the goalie hold the ball
> before putting it back into play?

20 seconds

>
> 6. In golf, a player who turns in a scorecard claiming less strokes
> than were actually taken is disqualified. When happens if the
> scorecard claims more strokes than were actually taken?
>
> 7. Where is the farthest from his net that an NHL goalie is allowed
> to play the puck? (In terms of ice markings, not distance.)

anywhere behind the goal line

>
> 8. In Australian football, what offense is punished by both a
> 50-meter penalty and a free kick?
>
> 9. If your tennis opponent's hat distracts you by flying off during
> play, you may either play the ball or else ask the referee
> for what?
>
> 10. How long after an NBA player gets the ball from the referee
> is he allowed to take his free throw?
>

--
Dan Tilque

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Mark Brader:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2023-10-02,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information
> please see my 2023-05-24 companion posting on "Questions from the
> Canadian Inquisition (QFTCI*)".

> I wrote one question in one of these rounds.

The CFL question.

> * [Game 3], Round 7 - Literature - Italian Literature

> 1. Who is the pseudonymous author of the four so-called "Neapolitan
> novels", dealing with two women's friendship from childhood
> to old age, published between 2011 and 2014 and beginning with
> "My Brilliant Friend"?

Elena Ferrante. 4 for Dan Blum and Stephen.

> 2. Who is the philosopher, semiotician, and cultural critic who
> wrote the 1980 novel "The Name of the Rose", followed in 1988 by
> "Foucault's ['Foo-koze'] Pendulum"?

Umberto Eco. 4 for everyone -- Erland, Dan Blum, Stephen, Joshua,
and Dan Tilque.

> 3. Dante Alighieri's ["a-league-yair-eez"] 14th-century allegorical
> poem "The Divine Comedy" is still one of the most influential
> works of European literature. It is divided into three
> sections of 33 cantos each, plus a prologue. Name *any one*
> of the three main sections.

"Inferno", "Purgatorio", "Paradiso". (Any reasonable English
translations, such as Hell, Purgatory, and Paradise, were acceptable.)
4 for Dan Blum, Stephen (the hard way), Joshua, and Dan Tilque.

> 4. After initial popularity, Dante's works were overshadowed
> by those of a younger contemporary, a humanist and lyric poet.
> He wrote in both Latin and Italian; in the latter, perhaps
> his best-known work is "Fragments of Vernacular Matters",
> a collection of over 300 poems. Name him.

Petrarch. 4 for Dan Blum and Stephen.

> 5. Who is the Jewish Italian author who wrote about his time at
> Auschwitz in "If This is a Man"? A trained chemist, he later
> wrote a book of short stories called "The Periodic Table".

Primo Levi. 4 for Dan Blum, Stephen, and Joshua.

> 6. Another classic of the 14th century was a 100-part series
> of stories by 10 narrators, told over 10 days during a time
> of plague. It is sometimes referred to as "The Human Comedy" by
> contrast with the work of Dante. Name this work or its author.

"The Decameron", Giovanni Boccaccio. 4 for Dan Blum and Joshua.

> 7. A one-hit wonder of sorts was Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa,
> whose only novel, published in 1958, just after his death,
> became one of the most celebrated in Italian literature.
> Name it, in English or Italian.

"The Leopard" ("Il Gattopardo"). 4 for Stephen and Joshua.

> 8. One of the greatest novels of the Italian Romantic period is
> Alessandro Manzoni's 1825-27 novel, set during the Thirty Years'
> War, and telling the story of two young people's frustrated
> attempt to marry. Name it, in English or Italian.

"The Betrothed" or "The Betrothed Lovers" ("I promessi sposi").
4 for Stephen.

> 9. The interplay of "vertu" (meaning individual initiative) and
> chance was one of the themes in the works of this Florentine.
> He published, among other works, a 7-volume "The Art of War"
> in 1521, but a little squib he dashed off in 1513 was enough
> to immortalize him.

Niccolo Macchiavelli. 4 for everyone.

("The Prince".)

> 10. The recipient of the 1936 Nobel Prize for Literature wrote
> some 40 plays, but, in the English-speaking world at any rate,
> one would be hard-pressed to hear mention of any but a 1921 work
> that functioned as an absurdist meta-commentary on drama itself.
> Name either the play or its author.

"Six Characters in Search of an Author", Luigi Pirandello.
4 for Joshua.

> * Game 3, Round 8 - Sports - Obscure Rules

This was the hardest round in the original game.

> 1. If a baseball fielder throws his glove or cap and hits the
> batted ball, what is the penalty?

The batter is awarded 3 bases (and any runners score).

> 2. If a baseball pitcher is ambidextrous, when may he, and when
> may he not, change which hand he's pitching with?

Not during one player's turn at bat. 4 for Stephen and Joshua.

> 3. After the Toronto Argonauts score a touchdown against the
> Hamilton Tiger-Cats, they decide to go for 2 points on
> the convert. Chad Kelly tries a pass to Cam Phillips in
> the end zone, but Hamilton defender Tunde Adeleke ["TUN-day
> a-DELL-eck-ay"] intercepts it and runs the ball back an amazing
> 117 yards to reach Toronto's end zone. What is the result?

Hamilton gets the 2 points for the convert. 4 for Stephen
and Dan Tilque.

That's the rule, but I think it's absolutely ridiculous. It makes
sense for a normal convert -- by Toronto in this case -- to produce
a low score of 1 or 2 points because, after scoring a touchdown,
Toronto is *given* the ball at a position suitably near the opponents'
end zone. Hamilton was not given either the ball or a favorable
position, yet they got the ball into Toronto's end zone anyway.
They should get a full touchdown, 6 points plus the opportunity for
a convert of their own.

I don't knew if the NFL's rules do any better on this issue. But
I rather doubt it, since they get most things wrong where they differ
from the CFL.

> 4. In 2006, which NFL quarterback became the first player since
> 1941 to score using a drop-kick?

Doug Flutie. 4 for Stephen.

> 5. In a FIFA soccer match, how long may the goalie hold the ball
> before putting it back into play?

6 seconds. 4 for Stephen.

> 6. In golf, a player who turns in a scorecard claiming less strokes
> than were actually taken is disqualified. When happens if the
> scorecard claims more strokes than were actually taken?

The claim stands. 4 for Erland, Dan Blum, Stephen, and Joshua.

> 7. Where is the farthest from his net that an NHL goalie is allowed
> to play the puck? (In terms of ice markings, not distance.)

The center (red) line. 2 for Stephen.

> 8. In Australian football, what offense is punished by both a
> 50-meter penalty and a free kick?

Too many (i.e. more than 18) players on the field.

> 9. If your tennis opponent's hat distracts you by flying off during
> play, you may either play the ball or else ask the referee
> for what?

A let.

> 10. How long after an NBA player gets the ball from the referee
> is he allowed to take his free throw?

10 seconds. 3 for Stephen. 2 for Joshua.

Scores, if there are no errors:

GAME 3 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 BEST
TOPICS-> Mis Sci Geo Aud Ent Lit Spo FIVE
Stephen Perry -- -- 40 40 40 32 25 177
Joshua Kreitzer 8 21 34 27 36 28 10 146
Dan Blum 16 26 28 27 32 28 4 141
Dan Tilque 12 16 40 24 8 12 4 104
Erland Sommarskog 8 0 4 20 0 8 4 44

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These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2023-10-02,
and should be interpreted accordingly.

On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.

All questions were written by members of the Usual Suspects and
are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have
been retyped and/or edited by me. The posting and tabulation of
current-events questions is independent of the concurrent posting
of other rounds. For further information please see my 2023-05-24
companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
(QFTCI*)".

I wrote one of these rounds.

* Game 3, Round 9 - History - After Edward

In each case, name the successor to King Edward. Some of them
had soubriquets or surnames that are sometimes used, but in each
case we want their given name and, if applicable, regnal number --
for example, Charles III.

Be careful of table talk on this round.

1. King Edward I of England died in 1307, and was succeeded by
his oldest son still living. The son's reign lasted 20 years,
but with wars and rebellions it got worse and worse and he was
finally forced to abdicate, and then died, probably by murder.
The details are unknown, but since he may have been homosexual,
legend has it that his punishment was a red-hot poker --
used rectally. Be that as it may, name Edward I's successor.

2. As you just heard, King Edward II of England abdicated in 1327.
His 14-year-old son succeeded to the throne and his reign lasted
50 years. For the first 3 years Roger Mortimer was his regent,
until the young king had Mortimer killed. Later this king
developed England as a military power -- until it got stuck
in the Hundred Years' War with France. Name that successor
of Edward II.

3. When King Edward III of England died in 1377, his 10-year-old
grandson took the throne, at first with a council of regents.
He reigned until 1399, but was seen as more and more tyrannical
over time, and (like Edward II) he was finally deposed.
Shakespeare wrote a play about this successor of Edward III:
who was he?

4. During the Wars of the Roses, Edward IV was King of England
twice. He took the throne in 1461 when his predecessor was
deposed, but Edward IV himself was deposed in 1470 and that
predecessor resumed the throne -- for only 6 months until he
was deposed a second time in favor of Edward IV. Who was this
first successor -- and predecessor -- to Edward IV? The two
men were third cousins, both great-great-grandsons of Edward III.

5. When King Edward IV of England died in 1483, this time his
successor was his 12-year-old son, who reigned for less than
3 months. His problem was his uncle, a duke, who was named
regent, or Lord Protector as he was called. This uncle wanted
the throne for himself. So he arranged for Edward IV's accession
to be retroactively declared invalid, thus nullifying the
boy's accession. Then he had the boy imprisoned and apparently
murdered. Who was this boy, the short-lived second successor
to Edward IV?

6. You've just heard what happened to King Edward V of England.
His successor was that nasty uncle, another man that Shakespeare
wrote a play about. He ruled for only 2 years before dying
in the last battle of the Wars of the Roses. Who was it that
succeeded Edward V?

7. When Edward VI was King of England, he and his council of regents
tried to manipulate the succession law in favor of a Protestant
-- specifically, Edward's 16-year-old first-cousin-once-removed.
But when Edward died at age 15, this arrangement didn't stick,
and *she* was soon executed (to avoid any dispute). Who was
this girl, the short-lived successor to Edward VI?

8. The second and official successor of King Edward VI of England
was his Catholic half-sister, who for 5 years was England's
first undisputed queen regnant. Name her.

9. When King Edward VII of the United Kingdom died in 1910, he
had one living son, who reigned until 1936. Name this successor
to Edward VII.

10. When King Edward VIII of the United Kingdom abdicated in 1936,
he was succeeded by his oldest brother. Who was that?

* Game 3, Round 10 - Canadiana Challenge Round

This is the Canadiana round.

* A. Prime Ministers

A1. Name *any one* of the federal ridings represented by Sir
John A. Macdonald during his political career.

A2. Name *any one* of the federal ridings represented by William
Lyon Mackenzie King during his political career.

* B. Postal Codes

B1. Which province or territory do you live in if your postal
code starts with E?

B2. Which province or territory do you live in if your postal
code starts with Y?

* C. Provinces

C1. Which province was the last one to give women the right to
vote in provincial elections?

C2. When this province was created in 1870, it was nicknamed the
"postage-stamp province". Which province?

* D. Governor-General

D1. The Governor-General of Canada has two official residences.
One is Rideau Hall in Ottawa. Name the other.

D2. From 1867 to 1931, the Governor-General was appointed by
the Crown from a list approved by the Canadian government,
but only after consultation with which British body?

* E. Cities

E1. Name the original and oldest section of Vancouver.

E2. Bylaws in Montreal state that no building in the city may
extend higher than what other structure?

* F. Civil Disobedience

F1. Which city was shut down by a general strike in 1919?

F2. Riot police and the army were involved in a sometimes violent
conflict with Mohawk protesters in 1990, near which Quebec
town?

--
Mark Brader | "... There are three kinds of death in this world.
Toronto | There's heart death, there's brain death, and
msb@vex.net | there's being off the network." -- Guy Almes

My text in this article is in the public domain.

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Mark Brader <msb@vex.net> wrote:

> * Game 3, Round 9 - History - After Edward

I feel as if some rot13-ing should have been done here.

> 1. King Edward I of England died in 1307, and was succeeded by
> his oldest son still living. The son's reign lasted 20 years,
> but with wars and rebellions it got worse and worse and he was
> finally forced to abdicate, and then died, probably by murder.
> The details are unknown, but since he may have been homosexual,
> legend has it that his punishment was a red-hot poker --
> used rectally. Be that as it may, name Edward I's successor.

Edward II

> 2. As you just heard, King Edward II of England abdicated in 1327.
> His 14-year-old son succeeded to the throne and his reign lasted
> 50 years. For the first 3 years Roger Mortimer was his regent,
> until the young king had Mortimer killed. Later this king
> developed England as a military power -- until it got stuck
> in the Hundred Years' War with France. Name that successor
> of Edward II.

Edward III

> 3. When King Edward III of England died in 1377, his 10-year-old
> grandson took the throne, at first with a council of regents.
> He reigned until 1399, but was seen as more and more tyrannical
> over time, and (like Edward II) he was finally deposed.
> Shakespeare wrote a play about this successor of Edward III:
> who was he?

Richard II

> 4. During the Wars of the Roses, Edward IV was King of England
> twice. He took the throne in 1461 when his predecessor was
> deposed, but Edward IV himself was deposed in 1470 and that
> predecessor resumed the throne -- for only 6 months until he
> was deposed a second time in favor of Edward IV. Who was this
> first successor -- and predecessor -- to Edward IV? The two
> men were third cousins, both great-great-grandsons of Edward III.

Henry VI

> 5. When King Edward IV of England died in 1483, this time his
> successor was his 12-year-old son, who reigned for less than
> 3 months. His problem was his uncle, a duke, who was named
> regent, or Lord Protector as he was called. This uncle wanted
> the throne for himself. So he arranged for Edward IV's accession
> to be retroactively declared invalid, thus nullifying the
> boy's accession. Then he had the boy imprisoned and apparently
> murdered. Who was this boy, the short-lived second successor
> to Edward IV?

Edward V

> 6. You've just heard what happened to King Edward V of England.
> His successor was that nasty uncle, another man that Shakespeare
> wrote a play about. He ruled for only 2 years before dying
> in the last battle of the Wars of the Roses. Who was it that
> succeeded Edward V?

Richard III

> 7. When Edward VI was King of England, he and his council of regents
> tried to manipulate the succession law in favor of a Protestant
> -- specifically, Edward's 16-year-old first-cousin-once-removed.
> But when Edward died at age 15, this arrangement didn't stick,
> and *she* was soon executed (to avoid any dispute). Who was
> this girl, the short-lived successor to Edward VI?

Jane Grey

> 8. The second and official successor of King Edward VI of England
> was his Catholic half-sister, who for 5 years was England's
> first undisputed queen regnant. Name her.

Mary I

> 9. When King Edward VII of the United Kingdom died in 1910, he
> had one living son, who reigned until 1936. Name this successor
> to Edward VII.

George V

> 10. When King Edward VIII of the United Kingdom abdicated in 1936,
> he was succeeded by his oldest brother. Who was that?

George VI

> * Game 3, Round 10 - Canadiana Challenge Round

> * B. Postal Codes

> B1. Which province or territory do you live in if your postal
> code starts with E?

Ontario; Quebec

> B2. Which province or territory do you live in if your postal
> code starts with Y?

British Columbia

> * C. Provinces

> C1. Which province was the last one to give women the right to
> vote in provincial elections?

Quebec

> C2. When this province was created in 1870, it was nicknamed the
> "postage-stamp province". Which province?

Prince Edward Island

> * D. Governor-General

> D2. From 1867 to 1931, the Governor-General was appointed by
> the Crown from a list approved by the Canadian government,
> but only after consultation with which British body?

House of Lords; House of Commons

> * E. Cities

> E1. Name the original and oldest section of Vancouver.

Gastown

--
_______________________________________________________________________
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On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 11:49:19 PM UTC-5, Mark Brader wrote:
> * Game 3, Round 9 - History - After Edward
>
> In each case, name the successor to King Edward. Some of them
> had soubriquets or surnames that are sometimes used, but in each
> case we want their given name and, if applicable, regnal number --
> for example, Charles III.
>
> Be careful of table talk on this round.

I realize that this instruction was intended for the pub players rather than the rec.games.trivia crowd, but I'm not sure why it was particularly directed toward this round.

> 1. King Edward I of England died in 1307, and was succeeded by
> his oldest son still living. The son's reign lasted 20 years,
> but with wars and rebellions it got worse and worse and he was
> finally forced to abdicate, and then died, probably by murder.
> The details are unknown, but since he may have been homosexual,
> legend has it that his punishment was a red-hot poker --
> used rectally. Be that as it may, name Edward I's successor.

Edward II

> 2. As you just heard, King Edward II of England abdicated in 1327.
> His 14-year-old son succeeded to the throne and his reign lasted
> 50 years. For the first 3 years Roger Mortimer was his regent,
> until the young king had Mortimer killed. Later this king
> developed England as a military power -- until it got stuck
> in the Hundred Years' War with France. Name that successor
> of Edward II.

Edward III

> 3. When King Edward III of England died in 1377, his 10-year-old
> grandson took the throne, at first with a council of regents.
> He reigned until 1399, but was seen as more and more tyrannical
> over time, and (like Edward II) he was finally deposed.
> Shakespeare wrote a play about this successor of Edward III:
> who was he?

Henry V

> 4. During the Wars of the Roses, Edward IV was King of England
> twice. He took the throne in 1461 when his predecessor was
> deposed, but Edward IV himself was deposed in 1470 and that
> predecessor resumed the throne -- for only 6 months until he
> was deposed a second time in favor of Edward IV. Who was this
> first successor -- and predecessor -- to Edward IV? The two
> men were third cousins, both great-great-grandsons of Edward III.

Henry VI

> 5. When King Edward IV of England died in 1483, this time his
> successor was his 12-year-old son, who reigned for less than
> 3 months. His problem was his uncle, a duke, who was named
> regent, or Lord Protector as he was called. This uncle wanted
> the throne for himself. So he arranged for Edward IV's accession
> to be retroactively declared invalid, thus nullifying the
> boy's accession. Then he had the boy imprisoned and apparently
> murdered. Who was this boy, the short-lived second successor
> to Edward IV?

Edward V

> 6. You've just heard what happened to King Edward V of England.
> His successor was that nasty uncle, another man that Shakespeare
> wrote a play about. He ruled for only 2 years before dying
> in the last battle of the Wars of the Roses. Who was it that
> succeeded Edward V?

Richard III

> 7. When Edward VI was King of England, he and his council of regents
> tried to manipulate the succession law in favor of a Protestant
> -- specifically, Edward's 16-year-old first-cousin-once-removed.
> But when Edward died at age 15, this arrangement didn't stick,
> and *she* was soon executed (to avoid any dispute). Who was
> this girl, the short-lived successor to Edward VI?

Lady Jane Grey

> 8. The second and official successor of King Edward VI of England
> was his Catholic half-sister, who for 5 years was England's
> first undisputed queen regnant. Name her.

Mary I

> 9. When King Edward VII of the United Kingdom died in 1910, he
> had one living son, who reigned until 1936. Name this successor
> to Edward VII.

George V

> 10. When King Edward VIII of the United Kingdom abdicated in 1936,
> he was succeeded by his oldest brother. Who was that?

George VI

> * Game 3, Round 10 - Canadiana Challenge Round
>
> * B. Postal Codes
>
> B1. Which province or territory do you live in if your postal
> code starts with E?

Manitoba; Saskatchewan

> B2. Which province or territory do you live in if your postal
> code starts with Y?

Alberta; New Brunswick

> * C. Provinces
>
> C1. Which province was the last one to give women the right to
> vote in provincial elections?

Quebec

> C2. When this province was created in 1870, it was nicknamed the
> "postage-stamp province". Which province?

Prince Edward Island

> * D. Governor-General
>
> D2. From 1867 to 1931, the Governor-General was appointed by
> the Crown from a list approved by the Canadian government,
> but only after consultation with which British body?

Privy Council

--
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On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 11:47:11 PM UTC-5, Mark Brader wrote:

> > 3. After the Toronto Argonauts score a touchdown against the
> > Hamilton Tiger-Cats, they decide to go for 2 points on
> > the convert. Chad Kelly tries a pass to Cam Phillips in
> > the end zone, but Hamilton defender Tunde Adeleke ["TUN-day
> > a-DELL-eck-ay"] intercepts it and runs the ball back an amazing
> > 117 yards to reach Toronto's end zone. What is the result?
>
> Hamilton gets the 2 points for the convert. 4 for Stephen
> and Dan Tilque.
>
> That's the rule, but I think it's absolutely ridiculous. It makes
> sense for a normal convert -- by Toronto in this case -- to produce
> a low score of 1 or 2 points because, after scoring a touchdown,
> Toronto is *given* the ball at a position suitably near the opponents'
> end zone. Hamilton was not given either the ball or a favorable
> position, yet they got the ball into Toronto's end zone anyway.
> They should get a full touchdown, 6 points plus the opportunity for
> a convert of their own.
>
> I don't knew if the NFL's rules do any better on this issue. But
> I rather doubt it, since they get most things wrong where they differ
> from the CFL.

From what I can tell, the NFL rule is the same -- the defensive team would score only 2 points. See the NFL Rulebook at https://operations.nfl.com/media/tvglh0mx/2023-rulebook_final.pdf on page 41: "After a touchdown, a Try is an opportunity for either team to score one or two additional points during one scrimmage down .... If a Try results in a touchdown by either team, two points are awarded."

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 by: Mark Brader - Sun, 5 Nov 2023 09:16 UTC

Mark Brader:
> > Be careful of table talk on this round.
Joshua Kreitzer:
> I realize that this instruction was intended for the pub players rather
> than the rec.games.trivia crowd, but I'm not sure why it was
> particularly directed toward this round.

Because successive questions sometimes refer to successive monarchs.
--
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Mark Brader (msb@vex.net) writes:
> * Game 3, Round 9 - History - After Edward
>
> Be careful of table talk on this round.
>
> 1. King Edward I of England died in 1307, and was succeeded by
> his oldest son still living. The son's reign lasted 20 years,
> but with wars and rebellions it got worse and worse and he was
> finally forced to abdicate, and then died, probably by murder.
> The details are unknown, but since he may have been homosexual,
> legend has it that his punishment was a red-hot poker --
> used rectally. Be that as it may, name Edward I's successor.

Edward II
> 2. As you just heard, King Edward II of England abdicated in 1327.
> His 14-year-old son succeeded to the throne and his reign lasted
> 50 years. For the first 3 years Roger Mortimer was his regent,
> until the young king had Mortimer killed. Later this king
> developed England as a military power -- until it got stuck
> in the Hundred Years' War with France. Name that successor
> of Edward II.

Edward III
> 3. When King Edward III of England died in 1377, his 10-year-old
> grandson took the throne, at first with a council of regents.
> He reigned until 1399, but was seen as more and more tyrannical
> over time, and (like Edward II) he was finally deposed.
> Shakespeare wrote a play about this successor of Edward III:
> who was he?

Richard II
> 4. During the Wars of the Roses, Edward IV was King of England
> twice. He took the throne in 1461 when his predecessor was
> deposed, but Edward IV himself was deposed in 1470 and that
> predecessor resumed the throne -- for only 6 months until he
> was deposed a second time in favor of Edward IV. Who was this
> first successor -- and predecessor -- to Edward IV? The two
> men were third cousins, both great-great-grandsons of Edward III.

Henry VI
> 5. When King Edward IV of England died in 1483, this time his
> successor was his 12-year-old son, who reigned for less than
> 3 months. His problem was his uncle, a duke, who was named
> regent, or Lord Protector as he was called. This uncle wanted
> the throne for himself. So he arranged for Edward IV's accession
> to be retroactively declared invalid, thus nullifying the
> boy's accession. Then he had the boy imprisoned and apparently
> murdered. Who was this boy, the short-lived second successor
> to Edward IV?

Edward V
> 6. You've just heard what happened to King Edward V of England.
> His successor was that nasty uncle, another man that Shakespeare
> wrote a play about. He ruled for only 2 years before dying
> in the last battle of the Wars of the Roses. Who was it that
> succeeded Edward V?

Richard III
> 7. When Edward VI was King of England, he and his council of regents
> tried to manipulate the succession law in favor of a Protestant
> -- specifically, Edward's 16-year-old first-cousin-once-removed.
> But when Edward died at age 15, this arrangement didn't stick,
> and *she* was soon executed (to avoid any dispute). Who was
> this girl, the short-lived successor to Edward VI?

Jane Grey
> 8. The second and official successor of King Edward VI of England
> was his Catholic half-sister, who for 5 years was England's
> first undisputed queen regnant. Name her.

Mary I

> 9. When King Edward VII of the United Kingdom died in 1910, he
> had one living son, who reigned until 1936. Name this successor
> to Edward VII.

George V
> 10. When King Edward VIII of the United Kingdom abdicated in 1936,
> he was succeeded by his oldest brother. Who was that?

George VI
> * Game 3, Round 10 - Canadiana Challenge Round
>
> This is the Canadiana round.
>
> * B. Postal Codes
>
> B1. Which province or territory do you live in if your postal
> code starts with E?

Prince Edward Island
> B2. Which province or territory do you live in if your postal
> code starts with Y?

Yukon
> * C. Provinces
>
> C1. Which province was the last one to give women the right to
> vote in provincial elections?

Newfoundland and Labrador
> C2. When this province was created in 1870, it was nicknamed the
> "postage-stamp province". Which province?

Prince Edward Island

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 by: Pete Gayde - Sun, 5 Nov 2023 13:50 UTC

Mark Brader wrote:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2023-10-02,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of the Usual Suspects and
> are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have
> been retyped and/or edited by me. The posting and tabulation of
> current-events questions is independent of the concurrent posting
> of other rounds. For further information please see my 2023-05-24
> companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
> (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> I wrote one of these rounds.
>
>
> * Game 3, Round 9 - History - After Edward
>
> In each case, name the successor to King Edward. Some of them
> had soubriquets or surnames that are sometimes used, but in each
> case we want their given name and, if applicable, regnal number --
> for example, Charles III.
>
> Be careful of table talk on this round.
>
> 1. King Edward I of England died in 1307, and was succeeded by
> his oldest son still living. The son's reign lasted 20 years,
> but with wars and rebellions it got worse and worse and he was
> finally forced to abdicate, and then died, probably by murder.
> The details are unknown, but since he may have been homosexual,
> legend has it that his punishment was a red-hot poker --
> used rectally. Be that as it may, name Edward I's successor.
>
> 2. As you just heard, King Edward II of England abdicated in 1327.
> His 14-year-old son succeeded to the throne and his reign lasted
> 50 years. For the first 3 years Roger Mortimer was his regent,
> until the young king had Mortimer killed. Later this king
> developed England as a military power -- until it got stuck
> in the Hundred Years' War with France. Name that successor
> of Edward II.
>
> 3. When King Edward III of England died in 1377, his 10-year-old
> grandson took the throne, at first with a council of regents.
> He reigned until 1399, but was seen as more and more tyrannical
> over time, and (like Edward II) he was finally deposed.
> Shakespeare wrote a play about this successor of Edward III:
> who was he?
>
> 4. During the Wars of the Roses, Edward IV was King of England
> twice. He took the throne in 1461 when his predecessor was
> deposed, but Edward IV himself was deposed in 1470 and that
> predecessor resumed the throne -- for only 6 months until he
> was deposed a second time in favor of Edward IV. Who was this
> first successor -- and predecessor -- to Edward IV? The two
> men were third cousins, both great-great-grandsons of Edward III.
>
> 5. When King Edward IV of England died in 1483, this time his
> successor was his 12-year-old son, who reigned for less than
> 3 months. His problem was his uncle, a duke, who was named
> regent, or Lord Protector as he was called. This uncle wanted
> the throne for himself. So he arranged for Edward IV's accession
> to be retroactively declared invalid, thus nullifying the
> boy's accession. Then he had the boy imprisoned and apparently
> murdered. Who was this boy, the short-lived second successor
> to Edward IV?
>
> 6. You've just heard what happened to King Edward V of England.
> His successor was that nasty uncle, another man that Shakespeare
> wrote a play about. He ruled for only 2 years before dying
> in the last battle of the Wars of the Roses. Who was it that
> succeeded Edward V?
>
> 7. When Edward VI was King of England, he and his council of regents
> tried to manipulate the succession law in favor of a Protestant
> -- specifically, Edward's 16-year-old first-cousin-once-removed.
> But when Edward died at age 15, this arrangement didn't stick,
> and *she* was soon executed (to avoid any dispute). Who was
> this girl, the short-lived successor to Edward VI?
>
> 8. The second and official successor of King Edward VI of England
> was his Catholic half-sister, who for 5 years was England's
> first undisputed queen regnant. Name her.
>
> 9. When King Edward VII of the United Kingdom died in 1910, he
> had one living son, who reigned until 1936. Name this successor
> to Edward VII.
>
> 10. When King Edward VIII of the United Kingdom abdicated in 1936,
> he was succeeded by his oldest brother. Who was that?

George V

>
>
> * Game 3, Round 10 - Canadiana Challenge Round
>
> This is the Canadiana round.
>
> * A. Prime Ministers
>
> A1. Name *any one* of the federal ridings represented by Sir
> John A. Macdonald during his political career.
>
> A2. Name *any one* of the federal ridings represented by William
> Lyon Mackenzie King during his political career.
>
>
> * B. Postal Codes
>
> B1. Which province or territory do you live in if your postal
> code starts with E?

Ontario; Quebec

>
> B2. Which province or territory do you live in if your postal
> code starts with Y?

British Columbia; Alberta

>
>
> * C. Provinces
>
> C1. Which province was the last one to give women the right to
> vote in provincial elections?

Alberta; Saskatchewan

>
> C2. When this province was created in 1870, it was nicknamed the
> "postage-stamp province". Which province?

Prince Edward Island

>
>
> * D. Governor-General
>
> D1. The Governor-General of Canada has two official residences.
> One is Rideau Hall in Ottawa. Name the other.
>
> D2. From 1867 to 1931, the Governor-General was appointed by
> the Crown from a list approved by the Canadian government,
> but only after consultation with which British body?
>
>
> * E. Cities
>
> E1. Name the original and oldest section of Vancouver.
>
> E2. Bylaws in Montreal state that no building in the city may
> extend higher than what other structure?
>
>
> * F. Civil Disobedience
>
> F1. Which city was shut down by a general strike in 1919?
>
> F2. Riot police and the army were involved in a sometimes violent
> conflict with Mohawk protesters in 1990, near which Quebec
> town?
>

Pete Gayde

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 by: Dan Tilque - Mon, 6 Nov 2023 00:39 UTC

On 11/4/23 21:49, Mark Brader wrote:
>
>
> I wrote one of these rounds.
>
>
> * Game 3, Round 9 - History - After Edward
>
> In each case, name the successor to King Edward. Some of them
> had soubriquets or surnames that are sometimes used, but in each
> case we want their given name and, if applicable, regnal number --
> for example, Charles III.
>
> Be careful of table talk on this round.
>
> 1. King Edward I of England died in 1307, and was succeeded by
> his oldest son still living. The son's reign lasted 20 years,
> but with wars and rebellions it got worse and worse and he was
> finally forced to abdicate, and then died, probably by murder.
> The details are unknown, but since he may have been homosexual,
> legend has it that his punishment was a red-hot poker --
> used rectally. Be that as it may, name Edward I's successor.

Edward II

>
> 2. As you just heard, King Edward II of England abdicated in 1327.
> His 14-year-old son succeeded to the throne and his reign lasted
> 50 years. For the first 3 years Roger Mortimer was his regent,
> until the young king had Mortimer killed. Later this king
> developed England as a military power -- until it got stuck
> in the Hundred Years' War with France. Name that successor
> of Edward II.

Edward III

>
> 3. When King Edward III of England died in 1377, his 10-year-old
> grandson took the throne, at first with a council of regents.
> He reigned until 1399, but was seen as more and more tyrannical
> over time, and (like Edward II) he was finally deposed.
> Shakespeare wrote a play about this successor of Edward III:
> who was he?

Richard II

>
> 4. During the Wars of the Roses, Edward IV was King of England
> twice. He took the throne in 1461 when his predecessor was
> deposed, but Edward IV himself was deposed in 1470 and that
> predecessor resumed the throne -- for only 6 months until he
> was deposed a second time in favor of Edward IV. Who was this
> first successor -- and predecessor -- to Edward IV? The two
> men were third cousins, both great-great-grandsons of Edward III.

Henry VI

>
> 5. When King Edward IV of England died in 1483, this time his
> successor was his 12-year-old son, who reigned for less than
> 3 months. His problem was his uncle, a duke, who was named
> regent, or Lord Protector as he was called. This uncle wanted
> the throne for himself. So he arranged for Edward IV's accession
> to be retroactively declared invalid, thus nullifying the
> boy's accession. Then he had the boy imprisoned and apparently
> murdered. Who was this boy, the short-lived second successor
> to Edward IV?

Edward V

>
> 6. You've just heard what happened to King Edward V of England.
> His successor was that nasty uncle, another man that Shakespeare
> wrote a play about. He ruled for only 2 years before dying
> in the last battle of the Wars of the Roses. Who was it that
> succeeded Edward V?

Richard III

>
> 7. When Edward VI was King of England, he and his council of regents
> tried to manipulate the succession law in favor of a Protestant
> -- specifically, Edward's 16-year-old first-cousin-once-removed.
> But when Edward died at age 15, this arrangement didn't stick,
> and *she* was soon executed (to avoid any dispute). Who was
> this girl, the short-lived successor to Edward VI?

Lady Jane Grey

>
> 8. The second and official successor of King Edward VI of England
> was his Catholic half-sister, who for 5 years was England's
> first undisputed queen regnant. Name her.

Mary I

>
> 9. When King Edward VII of the United Kingdom died in 1910, he
> had one living son, who reigned until 1936. Name this successor
> to Edward VII.

George V

>
> 10. When King Edward VIII of the United Kingdom abdicated in 1936,
> he was succeeded by his oldest brother. Who was that?

George VI

>
>
> * Game 3, Round 10 - Canadiana Challenge Round
>
> This is the Canadiana round.
>
> * A. Prime Ministers
>
> A1. Name *any one* of the federal ridings represented by Sir
> John A. Macdonald during his political career.
>
> A2. Name *any one* of the federal ridings represented by William
> Lyon Mackenzie King during his political career.
>
>
> * B. Postal Codes
>
> B1. Which province or territory do you live in if your postal
> code starts with E?

Prince Edward Island

>
> B2. Which province or territory do you live in if your postal
> code starts with Y?

Yukon

>
>
> * C. Provinces
>
> C1. Which province was the last one to give women the right to
> vote in provincial elections?

Newfoundland and Labrador

>
> C2. When this province was created in 1870, it was nicknamed the
> "postage-stamp province". Which province?

Manitoba

>
>
> * D. Governor-General
>
> D1. The Governor-General of Canada has two official residences.
> One is Rideau Hall in Ottawa. Name the other.
>
> D2. From 1867 to 1931, the Governor-General was appointed by
> the Crown from a list approved by the Canadian government,
> but only after consultation with which British body?

Parliament

>
>
> * E. Cities
>
> E1. Name the original and oldest section of Vancouver.
>
> E2. Bylaws in Montreal state that no building in the city may
> extend higher than what other structure?
>
>
> * F. Civil Disobedience
>
> F1. Which city was shut down by a general strike in 1919?
>
> F2. Riot police and the army were involved in a sometimes violent
> conflict with Mohawk protesters in 1990, near which Quebec
> town?
>

--
Dan Tilque

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On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 12:49:19 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
>
> Be careful of table talk on this round.

and yet no rot13. curious

> 1. King Edward I of England died in 1307, and was succeeded by
> his oldest son still living. The son's reign lasted 20 years,
> but with wars and rebellions it got worse and worse and he was
> finally forced to abdicate, and then died, probably by murder.
> The details are unknown, but since he may have been homosexual,
> legend has it that his punishment was a red-hot poker --
> used rectally. Be that as it may, name Edward I's successor.

edward ii

> 2. As you just heard, King Edward II of England abdicated in 1327.
> His 14-year-old son succeeded to the throne and his reign lasted
> 50 years. For the first 3 years Roger Mortimer was his regent,
> until the young king had Mortimer killed. Later this king
> developed England as a military power -- until it got stuck
> in the Hundred Years' War with France. Name that successor
> of Edward II.

edward iii

> 3. When King Edward III of England died in 1377, his 10-year-old
> grandson took the throne, at first with a council of regents.
> He reigned until 1399, but was seen as more and more tyrannical
> over time, and (like Edward II) he was finally deposed.
> Shakespeare wrote a play about this successor of Edward III:
> who was he?

richard ii

> 4. During the Wars of the Roses, Edward IV was King of England
> twice. He took the throne in 1461 when his predecessor was
> deposed, but Edward IV himself was deposed in 1470 and that
> predecessor resumed the throne -- for only 6 months until he
> was deposed a second time in favor of Edward IV. Who was this
> first successor -- and predecessor -- to Edward IV? The two
> men were third cousins, both great-great-grandsons of Edward III.

edward v

> 5. When King Edward IV of England died in 1483, this time his
> successor was his 12-year-old son, who reigned for less than
> 3 months. His problem was his uncle, a duke, who was named
> regent, or Lord Protector as he was called. This uncle wanted
> the throne for himself. So he arranged for Edward IV's accession
> to be retroactively declared invalid, thus nullifying the
> boy's accession. Then he had the boy imprisoned and apparently
> murdered. Who was this boy, the short-lived second successor
> to Edward IV?

edward v

> 6. You've just heard what happened to King Edward V of England.
> His successor was that nasty uncle, another man that Shakespeare
> wrote a play about. He ruled for only 2 years before dying
> in the last battle of the Wars of the Roses. Who was it that
> succeeded Edward V?

richard iii

> 7. When Edward VI was King of England, he and his council of regents
> tried to manipulate the succession law in favor of a Protestant
> -- specifically, Edward's 16-year-old first-cousin-once-removed.
> But when Edward died at age 15, this arrangement didn't stick,
> and *she* was soon executed (to avoid any dispute). Who was
> this girl, the short-lived successor to Edward VI?

lady jane gray

> 8. The second and official successor of King Edward VI of England
> was his Catholic half-sister, who for 5 years was England's
> first undisputed queen regnant. Name her.

mary i

> 9. When King Edward VII of the United Kingdom died in 1910, he
> had one living son, who reigned until 1936. Name this successor
> to Edward VII.

george v

> 10. When King Edward VIII of the United Kingdom abdicated in 1936,
> he was succeeded by his oldest brother. Who was that?

george vi [didn't we have this recently?]

>
> * Game 3, Round 10 - Canadiana Challenge Round
>
> This is the Canadiana round.

and I only know a few of these. y is for yukon, the last answer is oka. the other residence is in quebec. but I am tired and it's just easier to take the 0 knowing it will drop off.

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Mark Brader:
> > Be careful of table talk on this round.

Stephen Perry:
> and yet no rot13. curious

I don't think it would have helped significantly to avoid giving things away.
The format of the round forced that.
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Mark Brader:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2023-10-02,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information
> please see my 2023-05-24 companion posting on "Questions from the
> Canadian Inquisition (QFTCI*)".

Game 3 is over and STEPHEN PERRY is the winner, despite providing
answers in only 6 rounds. Hearty congratulations!

> I wrote one of these rounds.

The history round.

> * Game 3, Round 9 - History - After Edward

> In each case, name the successor to King Edward. Some of them
> had soubriquets or surnames that are sometimes used, but in each
> case we want their given name and, if applicable, regnal number --
> for example, Charles III.

> Be careful of table talk on this round.

> 1. King Edward I of England died in 1307, and was succeeded by
> his oldest son still living. The son's reign lasted 20 years,
> but with wars and rebellions it got worse and worse and he was
> finally forced to abdicate, and then died, probably by murder.
> The details are unknown, but since he may have been homosexual,
> legend has it that his punishment was a red-hot poker --
> used rectally. Be that as it may, name Edward I's successor.

Edward II. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Erland, Dan Tilque, and Stephen.

> 2. As you just heard, King Edward II of England abdicated in 1327.
> His 14-year-old son succeeded to the throne and his reign lasted
> 50 years. For the first 3 years Roger Mortimer was his regent,
> until the young king had Mortimer killed. Later this king
> developed England as a military power -- until it got stuck
> in the Hundred Years' War with France. Name that successor
> of Edward II.

Edward III. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Erland, Dan Tilque, and Stephen.

> 3. When King Edward III of England died in 1377, his 10-year-old
> grandson took the throne, at first with a council of regents.
> He reigned until 1399, but was seen as more and more tyrannical
> over time, and (like Edward II) he was finally deposed.
> Shakespeare wrote a play about this successor of Edward III:
> who was he?

Richard II. 4 for Dan Blum, Erland, Dan Tilque, and Stephen.

> 4. During the Wars of the Roses, Edward IV was King of England
> twice. He took the throne in 1461 when his predecessor was
> deposed, but Edward IV himself was deposed in 1470 and that
> predecessor resumed the throne -- for only 6 months until he
> was deposed a second time in favor of Edward IV. Who was this
> first successor -- and predecessor -- to Edward IV? The two
> men were third cousins, both great-great-grandsons of Edward III.

Henry VI. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Erland, and Dan Tilque.

> 5. When King Edward IV of England died in 1483, this time his
> successor was his 12-year-old son, who reigned for less than
> 3 months. His problem was his uncle, a duke, who was named
> regent, or Lord Protector as he was called. This uncle wanted
> the throne for himself. So he arranged for Edward IV's accession
> to be retroactively declared invalid, thus nullifying the
> boy's accession. Then he had the boy imprisoned and apparently
> murdered. Who was this boy, the short-lived second successor
> to Edward IV?

Edward V. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Erland, Dan Tilque, and Stephen.

> 6. You've just heard what happened to King Edward V of England.
> His successor was that nasty uncle, another man that Shakespeare
> wrote a play about. He ruled for only 2 years before dying
> in the last battle of the Wars of the Roses. Who was it that
> succeeded Edward V?

Richard III. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Erland, Dan Tilque, and Stephen.

> 7. When Edward VI was King of England, he and his council of regents
> tried to manipulate the succession law in favor of a Protestant
> -- specifically, Edward's 16-year-old first-cousin-once-removed.
> But when Edward died at age 15, this arrangement didn't stick,
> and *she* was soon executed (to avoid any dispute). Who was
> this girl, the short-lived successor to Edward VI?

Jane Grey (first name required) or Jane I. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua,
Erland, Dan Tilque, and Stephen.

> 8. The second and official successor of King Edward VI of England
> was his Catholic half-sister, who for 5 years was England's
> first undisputed queen regnant. Name her.

Mary I. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Erland, Dan Tilque, and Stephen.

> 9. When King Edward VII of the United Kingdom died in 1910, he
> had one living son, who reigned until 1936. Name this successor
> to Edward VII.

George V. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Erland, Dan Tilque, and Stephen.

> 10. When King Edward VIII of the United Kingdom abdicated in 1936,
> he was succeeded by his oldest brother. Who was that?

George VI. 4 for everyone -- Dan Blum, Joshua, Erland, Pete,
Dan Tilque, and Stephen.

> * Game 3, Round 10 - Canadiana Challenge Round

> This is the Canadiana round.

> * A. Prime Ministers

> A1. Name *any one* of the federal ridings represented by Sir
> John A. Macdonald during his political career.

Kingston, Carleton, Victoria.

> A2. Name *any one* of the federal ridings represented by William
> Lyon Mackenzie King during his political career.

Waterloo North, York North, Prince, Prince Albert, Glengarry.

> * B. Postal Codes

> B1. Which province or territory do you live in if your postal
> code starts with E?

New Brunswick.

> B2. Which province or territory do you live in if your postal
> code starts with Y?

Yukon. 4 for Erland and Dan Tilque.

> * C. Provinces

> C1. Which province was the last one to give women the right to
> vote in provincial elections?

Quebec. (In 1940.) 4 for Dan Blum and Joshua.

> C2. When this province was created in 1870, it was nicknamed the
> "postage-stamp province". Which province?

Manitoba. (It was small and rectangular -- about 130×110 miles.)
4 for Dan Tilque.

> * D. Governor-General

> D1. The Governor-General of Canada has two official residences.
> One is Rideau Hall in Ottawa. Name the other.

The Citadel (in Quebec City).

> D2. From 1867 to 1931, the Governor-General was appointed by
> the Crown from a list approved by the Canadian government,
> but only after consultation with which British body?

Colonial Office.

> * E. Cities

> E1. Name the original and oldest section of Vancouver.

Gastown. 4 for Dan Blum.

> E2. Bylaws in Montreal state that no building in the city may
> extend higher than what other structure?

The cross at the top of Mt. Royal (Mont Royal).

> * F. Civil Disobedience

> F1. Which city was shut down by a general strike in 1919?

Winnipeg.

> F2. Riot police and the army were involved in a sometimes violent
> conflict with Mohawk protesters in 1990, near which Quebec
> town?

Oka.

Scores, if there are no errors:

GAME 3 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 BEST
TOPICS-> Mis Sci Geo Aud Ent Lit Spo His Can SEVEN
Stephen Perry -- -- 40 40 40 32 25 36 0 213
Dan Blum 16 26 28 27 32 28 4 40 8 197
Joshua Kreitzer 8 21 34 27 36 28 10 36 4 192
Dan Tilque 12 16 40 24 8 12 4 40 8 152
Erland Sommarskog 8 0 4 20 0 8 4 40 4 88
Pete Gayde -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 4 0 4

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