Stanford professors urge U.S. to end program looking for Chinese spies in academia - A group of Stanford University professors has asked the Justice Department to stop looking for Chinese spies at U.S. universities, joining an effort by human rights groups to end a Trump administration program they said caused racial profiling and was terrorizing some scientists

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stanford-professors-urge-u-end-110405079.html

On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 9:23:54 AM UTC-7, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> Stanford professors urge U.S. to end program looking for Chinese spies in academia - A group of Stanford University professors has asked the Justice Department to stop looking for Chinese spies at U.S. universities, joining an effort by human rights groups to end a Trump administration program they said caused racial profiling and was terrorizing some scientists
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/stanford-professors-urge-u-end-110405079.html

Abolish Trump-era ‘China Initiative’, academics urge, amid racial profiling criticism

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On 14/9/2021 12:23 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> Stanford professors urge U.S. to end program looking for Chinese spies in academia - A group of Stanford University professors has asked the Justice Department to stop looking for Chinese spies at U.S. universities, joining an effort by human rights groups to end a Trump administration program they said caused racial profiling and was terrorizing some scientists
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/stanford-professors-urge-u-end-110405079.html
>

It showed they need a lot of Chinese PHD students from China for their
researching works.

They prefer Chinese student researchers and not other races from
elsewhere like India or Europe or South America, or elsewhere.

The professors know how much of their own success in name is advanced by
the good quality of Chinese students working for them.

They also know that the reputation of the university is determined by
the quality of its researches produced and assessed by peer reviews.

They know that their own reputations have been advanced by way by the
number of quality researched papers produced by Chinese PHD students.

The Chinese researchers do not earn a lot of salary for it, but yet they
have to pay for their study, lodging, foods, and daily expenses in the US.

The professors know that these PHD Chinese researchers were doing the
bulk of their own research work too.

If US holds little respects to the China nationals, the US will lose
them instead.

If Chinese PHDs were nicked picked as spies, and if they were banned
when abused as spies, or were faked up as spies, the students will go to
elsewhere.

There will be no more PHD papers if US treated and called Chinese
researchers as spies.

By that, the quality of the reputation of US universities in the US will
run to the ground zero.

By then, the US universities ave to refill with other races instead.

On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 9:16:10 PM UTC-7, wake wrote:
> On 14/9/2021 12:23 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > Stanford professors urge U.S. to end program looking for Chinese spies in academia - A group of Stanford University professors has asked the Justice Department to stop looking for Chinese spies at U.S. universities, joining an effort by human rights groups to end a Trump administration program they said caused racial profiling and was terrorizing some scientists
> >
> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/stanford-professors-urge-u-end-110405079.html
> >
> It showed they need a lot of Chinese PHD students from China for their
> researching works.
>
> They prefer Chinese student researchers and not other races from
> elsewhere like India or Europe or South America, or elsewhere.
>
> The professors know how much of their own success in name is advanced by
> the good quality of Chinese students working for them.
>
> They also know that the reputation of the university is determined by
> the quality of its researches produced and assessed by peer reviews.
>
> They know that their own reputations have been advanced by way by the
> number of quality researched papers produced by Chinese PHD students.
>
> The Chinese researchers do not earn a lot of salary for it, but yet they
> have to pay for their study, lodging, foods, and daily expenses in the US..
>
> The professors know that these PHD Chinese researchers were doing the
> bulk of their own research work too.
>
> If US holds little respects to the China nationals, the US will lose
> them instead.
>
> If Chinese PHDs were nicked picked as spies, and if they were banned
> when abused as spies, or were faked up as spies, the students will go to
> elsewhere.
>
> There will be no more PHD papers if US treated and called Chinese
> researchers as spies.
>
> By that, the quality of the reputation of US universities in the US will
> run to the ground zero.
>
> By then, the US universities ave to refill with other races instead.

"Other race" is just as good. Chinese is no exception. India has a lot of people trying to get way from India, just like Chinese people... trying to get away from China!!!

Make no mistake, Chinese national is better student than Indian. US and EU
professors love them and prefer them than Indians.

Just look at the top consistent scorers around the world in Maths and
Sciences, and Reading,the Chinese is globally at the top.

Chinese in the top 4 countries, for example, in 2018 world's PISA rankings,
consistently top ranking between 2010 to 2020:

No.1 China - location: Beijing, Shanghai, Jiangsu, Zhejiang),
No.2 Singapore
No.3 China (Macau)
No.4 China (Hong Kong)
No.5 China (Taiwan)

Just look at the research papers published in reputable journals, the
majority in the team is mainly Chinese.

Professors in US and EU prefer Chinese students as they can go thoroughly
with different analysis in order to reach a thorough completeness.

Professors who want their own reputation to stand out prefer Chinese for
their PHD researches.

This is also because many of the PHD stay on in US to work with professors.
The became green-card Americans, and later Americans.

They became lecturers, researchers, and professor in different universities.

Their research papers became as American research papers instead.

Henceforth, the no.1 production in published research papers is China with
more 500,000 papers, and no. 2 is US with more than 400,000 papers.

Therefore, within the inside of the published US research papers, the
majority of them are Chinese nationals.

If one is to look at the team list that stated in the research paper
published, 90% of all are Chinese nationals from China.

Therefore, this means to say why American professors prefer Chinese
nationals in their university for PHD studies.

They will thereafter want to employ them, working for them in researching
more topics and subjects.

Their contributions will be part of the US research team published in the
paper.

They also want the Chinese researchers to stay on to become US residents and
US citizenship.

This is so that they can keep becoming as US research teams in 2nd top
researching country in the world.

The ultimate aim for the hiring of Chinese researchers is for the benefit of
maintaining of US reputation and the professor's own status of reputation,
because it is professor who is supervising it.

It is also to withstand the reputation of the university from sliding down.

It is also to help private clinical laboratories in the US to maintain or
raise the brand value of it.

In summary, US universities and research labs prefer Chinese nationals from
China and not Indians from India.

Therefore, US universities and laboratories prefer to hire Chinese graduates
as they have high capacity in researching and with deep investigative
abilities, too.

Henceforth, they love Chinese nationals and not Indians to come to study PHD
in US.

If the Chinese does not come to US to help them in maintaining the research
quality in US, the US professors will be out of jobs.

They have nothing to talk about their quality of US research works, when the
Chinese researchers had left for China.

When they were out of jobs, their qualification is turned to dust, Their
academic reputation is turned to ash.

The US universities will then collapse in no time. Their reputation in
research papers to support the US ranking in PISA world's ranking is
demolished.

People will laugh at US universities and US professors, in that without the
Chinese graduates to research for them, there is no America.

If that happens, when they were collapse into dust and ash, they will never
get up again even years later.

There will not be any more US research professors, so to speak, as they do
not know how to research as they do not have Chinese graduates to help them
in researching work.

This is real and no bull shit about it. it's better for US to end the
program looking for Chinese spies, and also not to treat Chinese students as
spies.

"Rusty Wyse" wrote in message
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On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 9:16:10 PM UTC-7, wake wrote:
> On 14/9/2021 12:23 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
> > Stanford professors urge U.S. to end program looking for Chinese spies
> > in academia - A group of Stanford University professors has asked the
> > Justice Department to stop looking for Chinese spies at U.S.
> > universities, joining an effort by human rights groups to end a Trump
> > administration program they said caused racial profiling and was
> > terrorizing some scientists
> >
> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/stanford-professors-urge-u-end-110405079.html
> >
> It showed they need a lot of Chinese PHD students from China for their
> researching works.
>
> They prefer Chinese student researchers and not other races from
> elsewhere like India or Europe or South America, or elsewhere.
>
> The professors know how much of their own success in name is advanced by
> the good quality of Chinese students working for them.
>
> They also know that the reputation of the university is determined by
> the quality of its researches produced and assessed by peer reviews.
>
> They know that their own reputations have been advanced by way by the
> number of quality researched papers produced by Chinese PHD students.
>
> The Chinese researchers do not earn a lot of salary for it, but yet they
> have to pay for their study, lodging, foods, and daily expenses in the US.
>
> The professors know that these PHD Chinese researchers were doing the
> bulk of their own research work too.
>
> If US holds little respects to the China nationals, the US will lose
> them instead.
>
> If Chinese PHDs were nicked picked as spies, and if they were banned
> when abused as spies, or were faked up as spies, the students will go to
> elsewhere.
>
> There will be no more PHD papers if US treated and called Chinese
> researchers as spies.
>
> By that, the quality of the reputation of US universities in the US will
> run to the ground zero.
>
> By then, the US universities ave to refill with other races instead.

"Other race" is just as good. Chinese is no exception. India has a lot of
people trying to get way from India, just like Chinese people... trying to
get away from China!!!