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 by: ltlee1 - Thu, 9 Sep 2021 23:49 UTC

"我们关注的事物、我们从事的活动、我们所在的地点、我们的欲
望——我们揭露有关自己的一切，不论刻意还是非刻意，都受到监视并
被暗中出卖，极力拖延随之而来的无可避免的侵犯感，因此我们大多数
人直到现在才知道发生了什么事。这种监视持续受到积极的鼓励，甚至
得到众多政府的资助，渴望由此获得大量的情报。除了登录和金融交易，
21 世纪初期所有的在线通信几乎都没有加密，这表示在许多时候，政
府甚至不必为了想要知道他们的客户在干什么而去找企业，他们可以在
神不知鬼不觉的情况下监视整个世界。
美国政府在全然漠视开国宪章的情况下屈服于这种诱惑，而且一
旦尝过这棵毒树的果实，便陷入狂热，无法自拔。暗地里，政府掌握着
监视全民的权力，这种权威就定义上而言，对无辜者的伤害远大于对犯
罪者的伤害。
直到我完全了解了这种监视及其伤害，我才惊觉，不只是一个国
家的民众，全世界的民众都从不曾获准投票或是有机会表达我们
对这种程序的意见。这种近乎全球范围的监视不仅未经我们同意便设立，
而且刻意隐藏每个层面，不让我们知道。遭到变更的每一步程序与其后
果都不让所有人知道，包括大多数国会议员。我可以去找谁呢？我可以
跟谁谈呢？泄露实情，即便是对律师或法官或国家，都会构成一项重罪，
全盘揭露事实将会遭到联邦监狱终身监禁。"

https://twitter.com/snowden/status/1392873800648347650

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 by: bach - Fri, 10 Sep 2021 06:39 UTC

With AI analytical software, all data passing through any media of
communication can be identified, sorted, and grouped.

It is then listed and categorised into all kinds of pre-set predictors using
many pre-set of profiles.

This is so that they can narrow down and label them into different corridors
of "DNA cells"

This is so that if they want to go further at it, they can focus them by
pressing the keyboard button.

"ltlee1" wrote in message
news:3bcb137d-1efa-4ca8-9465-3dfc86e5b101n@googlegroups.com...

"我们关注的事物、我们从事的活动、我们所在的地点、我们的欲
望——我们揭露有关自己的一切，不论刻意还是非刻意，都受到监视并
被暗中出卖，极力拖延随之而来的无可避免的侵犯感，因此我们大多数
人直到现在才知道发生了什么事。这种监视持续受到积极的鼓励，甚至
得到众多政府的资助，渴望由此获得大量的情报。除了登录和金融交易，
21 世纪初期所有的在线通信几乎都没有加密，这表示在许多时候，政
府甚至不必为了想要知道他们的客户在干什么而去找企业，他们可以在
神不知鬼不觉的情况下监视整个世界。

美国政府在全然漠视开国宪章的情况下屈服于这种诱惑，而且一
旦尝过这棵毒树的果实，便陷入狂热，无法自拔。暗地里，政府掌握着
监视全民的权力，这种权威就定义上而言，对无辜者的伤害远大于对犯
罪者的伤害。

直到我完全了解了这种监视及其伤害，我才惊觉，不只是一个国
家的民众，全世界的民众都从不曾获准投票或是有机会表达我们
对这种程序的意见。这种近乎全球范围的监视不仅未经我们同意便设立，
而且刻意隐藏每个层面，不让我们知道。遭到变更的每一步程序与其后
果都不让所有人知道，包括大多数国会议员。我可以去找谁呢？我可以
跟谁谈呢？泄露实情，即便是对律师或法官或国家，都会构成一项重罪，
全盘揭露事实将会遭到联邦监狱终身监禁。"

https://twitter.com/snowden/status/1392873800648347650

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 by: Byker - Fri, 10 Sep 2021 17:01 UTC

"bach" AKA "roove" AKA "bernoff" AKA "grille" AKA AKA "spacer" AKA "starlet"
AKA "kawaga AKA "hotei" AKA "tom"AKA "golden" AKA "lobo" AKA "kool" AKA
"moses" AKA "dubenski" AKA "bobo" AKA "vonnie" AKA "starlet" AKA "dean"
wrote in message news:sheuij$1mm$1@dont-email.me...
>
> With AI analytical software, all data passing through any media of
> communication can be identified, sorted, and grouped.

As the snowflakes will soon be finding out when they discover that they
can't find work...

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 by: gamo - Sat, 11 Sep 2021 11:18 UTC

El 10/9/21 a las 19:01, Byker escribió:
> "bach" AKA "roove" AKA "bernoff" AKA "grille" AKA AKA "spacer" AKA
> "starlet"
> AKA "kawaga AKA "hotei" AKA "tom"AKA "golden" AKA "lobo" AKA "kool" AKA
> "moses" AKA "dubenski" AKA "bobo" AKA "vonnie" AKA "starlet" AKA "dean"
> wrote in message news:sheuij$1mm$1@dont-email.me...
>>
>> With AI analytical software, all data passing through any media of
>> communication can be identified, sorted, and grouped.
>
> As the snowflakes will soon be finding out when they discover that they
> can't find work...

Yeah. There are people out there that still ring to the wrong door
to pretend obtain the truth. Seems evil to me.

--
http://gamo.sdf-eu.org/
perl -E 'say "Error: Batteries low"'

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 by: ltlee1 - Sat, 11 Sep 2021 14:14 UTC

On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 2:39:18 AM UTC-4, bach wrote:
> With AI analytical software, all data passing through any media of
> communication can be identified, sorted, and grouped.
>
> It is then listed and categorised into all kinds of pre-set predictors using
> many pre-set of profiles.
>
> This is so that they can narrow down and label them into different corridors
> of "DNA cells"
>
> This is so that if they want to go further at it, they can focus them by
> pressing the keyboard button.

Quite a few book have criticized the business model of companies like Google and Facebook.
This is surveillance captialism. But Snowden's book exposes the until now unseen hand of the
US government.
"这种监视持续受到积极的鼓励，甚至 得到众多政府的资助，渴望由此获得大量的情报."
US government encourages and materially supports the surveillance such that the US
government could get a lot of information.

>
> "ltlee1" wrote in message
> news:3bcb137d-1efa-4ca8...@googlegroups.com...
> "我们关注的事物、我们从事的活动、我们所在的地点、我们的欲
> 望——我们揭露有关自己的一切，不论刻意还是非刻意，都受到监视并
> 被暗中出卖，极力拖延随之而来的无可避免的侵犯感，因此我们大多数
> 人直到现在才知道发生了什么事。这种监视持续受到积极的鼓励，甚至
> 得到众多政府的资助，渴望由此获得大量的情报。除了登录和金融交易，
> 21 世纪初期所有的在线通信几乎都没有加密，这表示在许多时候，政
> 府甚至不必为了想要知道他们的客户在干什么而去找企业，他们可以在
> 神不知鬼不觉的情况下监视整个世界。
>
> 美国政府在全然漠视开国宪章的情况下屈服于这种诱惑，而且一
> 旦尝过这棵毒树的果实，便陷入狂热，无法自拔。暗地里，政府掌握着
> 监视全民的权力，这种权威就定义上而言，对无辜者的伤害远大于对犯
> 罪者的伤害。
>
> 直到我完全了解了这种监视及其伤害，我才惊觉，不只是一个国
> 家的民众，全世界的民众都从不曾获准投票或是有机会表达我们
> 对这种程序的意见。这种近乎全球范围的监视不仅未经我们同意便设立，
> 而且刻意隐藏每个层面，不让我们知道。遭到变更的每一步程序与其后
> 果都不让所有人知道，包括大多数国会议员。我可以去找谁呢？我可以
> 跟谁谈呢？泄露实情，即便是对律师或法官或国家，都会构成一项重罪，
> 全盘揭露事实将会遭到联邦监狱终身监禁。"
>
> https://twitter.com/snowden/status/1392873800648347650

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