> Well I know papa is really Jewish. I walked in the bathroom once on him
> in all his glory. The boy has a Hebrew National down there. Mama's got
> the Jew face; it's where Sarah gets her looks from (minus the ears).
> They raised 15 kids in a 3 bedroom railroad apartment My bubbe and Tom
> made 19 of us sharing 5 tiny rooms off space. They kept the house kosher
> and they were cheap as hell. They qualify as Jews.

Jews are cheap but it's nothing special because the reality is everybody is cheap. Except me. I'm a generous guy. Actually that's a lie. I am neither generous or cheap. Some people are generous to make up for other people's cheapness. Some people are cheap to make up for other people's generosity. In my world - a world based strictly on fairness - things such as generosity and cheapness would not be needed. Fairness would wipe them out. Exterminate them. I see once again you are responding to Ollie and not to me. Why? Do you really believe you are going to drive a wedge between and Ollie? It's not going to happen. I am truly a man of fairness. Please believe me.

On 9/21/2021 11:24 PM, Thomas Joseph wrote:
>
>> Well I know papa is really Jewish. I walked in the bathroom once on him
>> in all his glory. The boy has a Hebrew National down there. Mama's got
>> the Jew face; it's where Sarah gets her looks from (minus the ears).
>> They raised 15 kids in a 3 bedroom railroad apartment My bubbe and Tom
>> made 19 of us sharing 5 tiny rooms off space. They kept the house kosher
>> and they were cheap as hell. They qualify as Jews.
>
>
> Jews are cheap but it's nothing special because the reality is everybody is cheap. Except me. I'm a generous guy. Actually that's a lie. I am neither generous or cheap. Some people are generous to make up for other people's cheapness. Some people are cheap to make up for other people's generosity. In my world - a world based strictly on fairness - things such as generosity and cheapness would not be needed. Fairness would wipe them out. Exterminate them. I see once again you are responding to Ollie and not to me. Why? Do you really believe you are going to drive a wedge between and Ollie? It's not going to happen. I am truly a man of fairness. Please believe me.

According to Jewish law, you are incapable of possessing the quality of
fairness. Only a pius man can be both cheap and generous simultaneously.
Let's face it Thomas, you are not and never will be a pius man. I
believe you are always cheap, unless you are out on a date and you're
trying to impress some floozy with big knockers. The time to come clean
is now.

>

On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 11:27:01 PM UTC-4, Judith Latham wrote:
> On 9/21/2021 11:24 PM, Thomas Joseph wrote:
> >
> >> Well I know papa is really Jewish. I walked in the bathroom once on him
> >> in all his glory. The boy has a Hebrew National down there. Mama's got
> >> the Jew face; it's where Sarah gets her looks from (minus the ears).
> >> They raised 15 kids in a 3 bedroom railroad apartment My bubbe and Tom
> >> made 19 of us sharing 5 tiny rooms off space. They kept the house kosher
> >> and they were cheap as hell. They qualify as Jews.
> >
> >
> > Jews are cheap but it's nothing special because the reality is everybody is cheap. Except me. I'm a generous guy. Actually that's a lie. I am neither generous or cheap. Some people are generous to make up for other people's cheapness. Some people are cheap to make up for other people's generosity. In my world - a world based strictly on fairness - things such as generosity and cheapness would not be needed. Fairness would wipe them out. Exterminate them. I see once again you are responding to Ollie and not to me. Why? Do you really believe you are going to drive a wedge between and Ollie? It's not going to happen. I am truly a man of fairness. Please believe me.
> According to Jewish law, you are incapable of possessing the quality of
> fairness. Only a pius man can be both cheap and generous simultaneously.
> Let's face it Thomas, you are not and never will be a pius man. I
> believe you are always cheap, unless you are out on a date and you're
> trying to impress some floozy with big knockers. The time to come clean
> is now.
>
> >

Cheap is not a nice word. It is a cheap shot.

> Cheap is not a nice word. It is a cheap shot.

Thanks. It is very generous of you to share your opinions on this sensitive matter.

> According to Jewish law, you are incapable of possessing the quality of
> fairness. Only a pius man can be both cheap and generous simultaneously.
> Let's face it Thomas, you are not and never will be a pius man. I
> believe you are always cheap, unless you are out on a date and you're
> trying to impress some floozy with big knockers. The time to come clean
> is now.

LOL, finally. Keep it up, speak the truth Sister. Except sometimes the truth is not entirely true. For instance, your assertion that I am cheap and always will be because I am not a pius man. I don't know what pius means, but I have an idea. I do know that I am a genuine devotee of the Golden Rule, and we don't need no stinking pius rules to make it happen.

On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 3:11:41 AM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > According to Jewish law, you are incapable of possessing the quality of
> > fairness. Only a pius man can be both cheap and generous simultaneously..
> > Let's face it Thomas, you are not and never will be a pius man. I
> > believe you are always cheap, unless you are out on a date and you're
> > trying to impress some floozy with big knockers. The time to come clean
> > is now.
> LOL, finally. Keep it up, speak the truth Sister. Except sometimes the truth is not entirely true. For instance, your assertion that I am cheap and always will be because I am not a pius man. I don't know what pius means, but I have an idea. I do know that I am a genuine devotee of the Golden Rule, and we don't need no stinking pius rules to make it happen.

Pius - sounds like a urinary problem in men.

> Pius - sounds like a urinary problem in men.

First time I ever heard of the Pope it was a guy named Pius, can't recall the number. I was about 10 living in NY with my mother who was crippled. In a wheelchair, first one leg missing, then the other. Anyway, that's the first name I knew for a Pope. Later after I had fled NY for PA and gone to L.A. I went back to NY to visit my mother for an hour or two and she pulled out an album filled with pictures of her with a group of other desperate people at Lourdes in France, waiting their chance to take a dip in it's healing waters. I had a girlfriend with me. It was cruel, yes, looking back, but we had to fight to hold in the laughs while looking at those pics. What the fuck, with all the shit she had wrong with her I can't blame her for taking shots at the moon. Who knows what could have happened?

I went to Lourdes to kneel and pray
But sadly the Lord himself was not there that day
I slipped into the waters and prayed for the heal
Would the Lord high above hark unto my plea?

I went in crippled, bleak with despair
But all around me there was hope in the air
The ice chilled waters cut deep like a knife
But I came out the same - a cripple for life

On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 8:19:08 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Pius - sounds like a urinary problem in men.
> First time I ever heard of the Pope it was a guy named Pius, can't recall the number. I was about 10 living in NY with my mother who was crippled. In a wheelchair, first one leg missing, then the other. Anyway, that's the first name I knew for a Pope. Later after I had fled NY for PA and gone to L..A. I went back to NY to visit my mother for an hour or two and she pulled out an album filled with pictures of her with a group of other desperate people at Lourdes in France, waiting their chance to take a dip in it's healing waters. I had a girlfriend with me. It was cruel, yes, looking back, but we had to fight to hold in the laughs while looking at those pics. What the fuck, with all the shit she had wrong with her I can't blame her for taking shots at the moon. Who knows what could have happened?
>
> I went to Lourdes to kneel and pray
> But sadly the Lord himself was not there that day
> I slipped into the waters and prayed for the heal
> Would the Lord high above hark unto my plea?
>
> I went in crippled, bleak with despair
> But all around me there was hope in the air
> The ice chilled waters cut deep like a knife
> But I came out the same - a cripple for life

What if it worked? I think it working would be funny. People would feel an obligation to lead a holy life afterward. That could be a form of being crippled.

On 11/5/2021 3:29 AM, OllieNorthie@aol.com wrote:
> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 8:19:08 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Pius - sounds like a urinary problem in men.
>> First time I ever heard of the Pope it was a guy named Pius, can't recall the number. I was about 10 living in NY with my mother who was crippled. In a wheelchair, first one leg missing, then the other. Anyway, that's the first name I knew for a Pope. Later after I had fled NY for PA and gone to L.A. I went back to NY to visit my mother for an hour or two and she pulled out an album filled with pictures of her with a group of other desperate people at Lourdes in France, waiting their chance to take a dip in it's healing waters. I had a girlfriend with me. It was cruel, yes, looking back, but we had to fight to hold in the laughs while looking at those pics. What the fuck, with all the shit she had wrong with her I can't blame her for taking shots at the moon. Who knows what could have happened?
>>
>> I went to Lourdes to kneel and pray
>> But sadly the Lord himself was not there that day
>> I slipped into the waters and prayed for the heal
>> Would the Lord high above hark unto my plea?
>>
>> I went in crippled, bleak with despair
>> But all around me there was hope in the air
>> The ice chilled waters cut deep like a knife
>> But I came out the same - a cripple for life
>
>
> What if it worked? I think it working would be funny. People would feel an obligation to lead a holy life afterward. That could be a form of being crippled.

It's stories like that that make one wonder just how much bullshit are
our elders feeding us. Can you imagine the audacity of telling a midget
that if he jumps into the Holy Pool, his dick will grow longer? Your
dear mother, if she is still alive, has my heart-felt sympathy. She'd
have been better off going to the local bar in Lourdes (appropriately
named 'Crips') and gotten piss-ass drunk on Jameson and Guinness. While
there she can consume as much pickled sausage as she can eat. Before the
night's half way through, she be farting up a storm annd loving every
minute of it. Your mom deserves a good time; take her to Lourdes.

Ollie opined:
Latham retorted:
Joseph finalized:

> What if it worked? I think it working would be funny. People would feel an obligation to lead a holy life afterward. That could be a form of being crippled.

Good point Ollie. Reminds me of 'some' people who go to AA and manage to get by without drinking yet feel obligated to continue attending meetings out of fear of some kind. It's like they're afraid their higher power will get angry and vindictive if they turn their backs on it. I know the vibe. It's an addiction of sorts. A superstition/addiction type thangaling, like an athlete who wins the big game wearing a certain shirt and must now wear it for every important game or he's going to lose. How about the ones who aren't crippled by finding God, they do it on purpose to give their lives meaning. Like the ones who are sole survivors of airplane crashes and so forth and are convinced that God has saved them for a higher purpose - or so they say in public. It's funny. I like it.

> It's stories like that that make one wonder just how much bullshit are
> our elders feeding us. Can you imagine the audacity of telling a midget
> that if he jumps into the Holy Pool, his dick will grow longer? Your
> dear mother, if she is still alive, has my heart-felt sympathy. She'd
> have been better off going to the local bar in Lourdes (appropriately
> named 'Crips') and gotten piss-ass drunk on Jameson and Guinness. While
> there she can consume as much pickled sausage as she can eat. Before the
> night's half way through, she be farting up a storm annd loving every
> minute of it. Your mom deserves a good time; take her to Lourdes.

Judith, sometimes when I think about laughing at the Lourdes section of my mother's photo album I feel bad about it. I never knew my mother for real. I mean, we never talked. Same with my father. I'm not crying about it, just saying I didn't know them and admit it, that as a kid I thought only of myself. I think most kids are that way. I hope I'm right. I came to realize later that my parents were only kids when they had me. I mean, in their 20s. I would cry to anyone who would listen about having to live in the projects with my crippled mother but must admit at the time that I never thought much about how she felt about it. She spent 7 years in the Allentown City Hospital in PA. Lupus, diabetes, all kinds of shit that came down on her suddenly in her early 20s. That's why I was sent to the orphanage. Then I finally get out - like getting out of prison - and now what? The projects? Never heard of the projects, but they were not what I was hoping for. Anyway, some of these older people, now that I'm older, I'd like to get to know them, talk to them adult to adult - get to know them as friends.. All truth. Alas they are no longer alive, but soon I will be joining them.