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* China's ISS Competitor Begins Construction In Orbitltlee1
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https://tubeshowcase.com/chinas-iss-competitor-begins-construction-in-orbit/

one of the many comments:
"Kirby Zhang
August 31, 2021 at 5:40 pm

China Space Station reduces the scale from the costly ISS, which the member nations do not want to pay to build a second station like it. CSS is designed to have 80% of its science capacity, with better integrated modules requiring fewer crew, and uses twice as efficient solar panels. It has a robotic arm with two identical feet which can crawl around the base ports on different modules. The tianzhou supply vehicle is also efficient, it delivers 6.8 tons of supplies on the fairly small Long March 7 rocket. CSS acts as a mothership for the space telescope to be launched in 2024. It can also service other satellites such as independently oribiting microgravity labs."

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 by: golden - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 17:49 UTC

The biggest problem in space is how to bring up more loads to the forming up
of space station in order to save cost and time.

There is no other way of shipping loads of goods to space except by use of
propelled rocket.

New ideas should be developed to bring heavy goods to space. Maybe they
need a helicopter drone to fly the goods up to space.

Once in space, the weightlessness of the goods will be able to tow to the
space station's core module for connection and assembly.

"ltlee1" wrote in message
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https://tubeshowcase.com/chinas-iss-competitor-begins-construction-in-orbit/

one of the many comments:
"Kirby Zhang
August 31, 2021 at 5:40 pm

China Space Station reduces the scale from the costly ISS, which the member
nations do not want to pay to build a second station like it. CSS is
designed to have 80% of its science capacity, with better integrated modules
requiring fewer crew, and uses twice as efficient solar panels. It has a
robotic arm with two identical feet which can crawl around the base ports on
different modules. The tianzhou supply vehicle is also efficient, it
delivers 6.8 tons of supplies on the fairly small Long March 7 rocket. CSS
acts as a mothership for the space telescope to be launched in 2024. It can
also service other satellites such as independently oribiting microgravity
labs."

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 by: ltlee1 - Wed, 8 Sep 2021 15:48 UTC

Space Elevator.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/09/12/102622/a-space-elevator-is-possible-with-todays-technology-researchers-say-we-just-need-to-dangle/

"Penoyre and Sandford quickly show that extending the cable from the moon all the way to Earth’s surface generates forces that are too great for today’s materials. But the cable need not stretch all the way to be useful.

The researchers’ main result is to show that today’s strongest materials—carbon polymers like Zylon—could comfortably support a cable stretching from the moon to geosynchronous orbit. They go on to suggest that a proof-of-principle device made from a cable about the thickness of a pencil lead could be dangled from the moon at a cost measured in billions of dollars.

That’s clearly ambitious but by no means excessive for modern space missions. “By extending a line, anchored on the moon, to deep within Earth’s gravity well, we can construct a stable, traversable cable allowing free movement from the vicinity of Earth to the Moon’s surface,” say Penoyre and Sandford.

The savings would be huge. “It would reduce the fuel needed to reach the surface of the moon to a third of the current value,” they say."

On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 1:59:52 PM UTC-4, golden wrote:
> The biggest problem in space is how to bring up more loads to the forming up
> of space station in order to save cost and time.
>
> There is no other way of shipping loads of goods to space except by use of
> propelled rocket.
>
> New ideas should be developed to bring heavy goods to space. Maybe they
> need a helicopter drone to fly the goods up to space.
>
> Once in space, the weightlessness of the goods will be able to tow to the
> space station's core module for connection and assembly.
>
>
>
>
> "ltlee1" wrote in message
> news:862b57f4-d907-4638...@googlegroups.com...
> https://tubeshowcase.com/chinas-iss-competitor-begins-construction-in-orbit/
>
> one of the many comments:
> "Kirby Zhang
> August 31, 2021 at 5:40 pm
>
> China Space Station reduces the scale from the costly ISS, which the member
> nations do not want to pay to build a second station like it. CSS is
> designed to have 80% of its science capacity, with better integrated modules
> requiring fewer crew, and uses twice as efficient solar panels. It has a
> robotic arm with two identical feet which can crawl around the base ports on
> different modules. The tianzhou supply vehicle is also efficient, it
> delivers 6.8 tons of supplies on the fairly small Long March 7 rocket. CSS
> acts as a mothership for the space telescope to be launched in 2024. It can
> also service other satellites such as independently oribiting microgravity
> labs."

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On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 10:59:52 AM UTC-7, golden wrote:
> The biggest problem in space is how to bring up more loads to the forming up
> of space station in order to save cost and time.
>
> There is no other way of shipping loads of goods to space except by use of
> propelled rocket.
>
> New ideas should be developed to bring heavy goods to space.

Yes, anti-gravity machine...

> Maybe they
> need a helicopter drone to fly the goods up to space.
>
> Once in space, the weightlessness of the goods will be able to tow to the
> space station's core module for connection and assembly.
>
>
>
>
> "ltlee1" wrote in message
> news:862b57f4-d907-4638...@googlegroups.com...
> https://tubeshowcase.com/chinas-iss-competitor-begins-construction-in-orbit/
>
> one of the many comments:
> "Kirby Zhang
> August 31, 2021 at 5:40 pm
>
> China Space Station reduces the scale from the costly ISS, which the member
> nations do not want to pay to build a second station like it. CSS is
> designed to have 80% of its science capacity, with better integrated modules
> requiring fewer crew, and uses twice as efficient solar panels. It has a
> robotic arm with two identical feet which can crawl around the base ports on
> different modules. The tianzhou supply vehicle is also efficient, it
> delivers 6.8 tons of supplies on the fairly small Long March 7 rocket. CSS
> acts as a mothership for the space telescope to be launched in 2024. It can
> also service other satellites such as independently oribiting microgravity
> labs."

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 by: toi...@tr.com - Thu, 9 Sep 2021 16:17 UTC

On 8/9/2021 11:48 pm, ltlee1 wrote:
> Space Elevator.
> https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/09/12/102622/a-space-elevator-is-possible-with-todays-technology-researchers-say-we-just-need-to-dangle/
>
> "Penoyre and Sandford quickly show that extending the cable from the moon all the way to Earth’s surface generates forces that are too great for today’s materials. But the cable need not stretch all the way to be useful.
>
> The researchers’ main result is to show that today’s strongest materials—carbon polymers like Zylon—could comfortably support a cable stretching from the moon to geosynchronous orbit. They go on to suggest that a proof-of-principle device made from a cable about the thickness of a pencil lead could be dangled from the moon at a cost measured in billions of dollars.
>
> That’s clearly ambitious but by no means excessive for modern space missions. “By extending a line, anchored on the moon, to deep within Earth’s gravity well, we can construct a stable, traversable cable allowing free movement from the vicinity of Earth to the Moon’s surface,” say Penoyre and Sandford.
>
> The savings would be huge. “It would reduce the fuel needed to reach the surface of the moon to a third of the current value,” they say."
>
> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 1:59:52 PM UTC-4, golden wrote:
>> The biggest problem in space is how to bring up more loads to the forming up
>> of space station in order to save cost and time.
>>
>> There is no other way of shipping loads of goods to space except by use of
>> propelled rocket.
>>
>> New ideas should be developed to bring heavy goods to space. Maybe they
>> need a helicopter drone to fly the goods up to space.
>>
>> Once in space, the weightlessness of the goods will be able to tow to the
>> space station's core module for connection and assembly.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "ltlee1" wrote in message
>> news:862b57f4-d907-4638...@googlegroups.com...
>> https://tubeshowcase.com/chinas-iss-competitor-begins-construction-in-orbit/
>>
>> one of the many comments:
>> "Kirby Zhang
>> August 31, 2021 at 5:40 pm
>>
>> China Space Station reduces the scale from the costly ISS, which the member
>> nations do not want to pay to build a second station like it. CSS is
>> designed to have 80% of its science capacity, with better integrated modules
>> requiring fewer crew, and uses twice as efficient solar panels. It has a
>> robotic arm with two identical feet which can crawl around the base ports on
>> different modules. The tianzhou supply vehicle is also efficient, it
>> delivers 6.8 tons of supplies on the fairly small Long March 7 rocket. CSS
>> acts as a mothership for the space telescope to be launched in 2024. It can
>> also service other satellites such as independently oribiting microgravity
>> labs."

It seems it is like someone from a high floor in a building hoisting up
a crate of heavy metal by a nylon rope.

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