On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 10:49:10 AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> writes:
> >In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 9 Aug 2023 19:40:29 -0400, Paul
> ><nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >>On 8/9/2023 5:04 PM, micky wrote:
> >>> if you set some parameter, you can have the Windows clock display
> >>> seconds.
> >>>
> >>> It's in one of the Tweak programs. 7+ Taskbar or Winaero.
> >>>
> >>> Last week I found behind my bookshelp a radio controlled travel clock
> >>> that I think I bought at a hamfest for a dollar.
> >>>
> >>> After I changed the batteries it seems to be working fine, with the
> >>> radio beacon icon showing. That must be working because the clock was
> >>> off by hours when I first turned it on, and I never set the time.
> >>>
> >>> And it's been running for a week and the time is always 53 seconds
> >>> behind the windows time on the laptop!
> >>>
> >>> Hmmm. My desktop is 2 seconds head of my laptop!
> >>>
> >>> Does anybody really know what time it is!
> >>>
> >>
> >>Your computer time error, is potentially printed on the right-hand side of this web page.
> >>
> >> https://nist.time.gov/
> >
> >Very intersting. Yes, it says:
> > "Your clock is off by:
> > -1.366 s"
> >
> >That's the laptop and it means the desktop is off by substantially less
> >than a second.
> >
> >So what does that mean, that desktops are better than laptops, that HP
> >is better than ACER, that.... nothing at all.
> If you have a network connection, and your system has an NTP (Network
> Time protocol) service, then the NTP service will routinely adjust
> your computer clock to align with the time standard.
>
> Many server environments have NTP servers synchronized with GPS
> satellites to ensure consistent view of time across an entire
> datacenter.
>
> For environments where there isn't a synchronized time environment:
>
> https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/pubs/time-clocks.pdf

Ct~t(t) --> Cl(tl') + (1 - ~)(t - tl') - n~. (4) From PC1, IRI' and 2' we deduce that Cl(/l') >" Cl(tl) + (1 -- K)(tl' -- /1). Combining this with (4) and using (2), we get Cn+a(t) > C~(tl) + (1 - x)(t - t~) - n~ (5) for t > tn+l.

That. Micky. Is what's wrong with your clock

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 10 Aug 2023 11:27:43 -0700 (PDT), Thomas
<canope234@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 10:49:10?AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> writes:
>> >In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 9 Aug 2023 19:40:29 -0400, Paul
>> ><nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On 8/9/2023 5:04 PM, micky wrote:
>> >>> if you set some parameter, you can have the Windows clock display
>> >>> seconds.
>> >>>
>> >>> It's in one of the Tweak programs. 7+ Taskbar or Winaero.
>> >>>
>> >>> Last week I found behind my bookshelp a radio controlled travel clock
>> >>> that I think I bought at a hamfest for a dollar.
>> >>>
>> >>> After I changed the batteries it seems to be working fine, with the
>> >>> radio beacon icon showing. That must be working because the clock was
>> >>> off by hours when I first turned it on, and I never set the time.
>> >>>
>> >>> And it's been running for a week and the time is always 53 seconds
>> >>> behind the windows time on the laptop!
>> >>>
>> >>> Hmmm. My desktop is 2 seconds head of my laptop!
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anybody really know what time it is!
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>Your computer time error, is potentially printed on the right-hand side of this web page.
>> >>
>> >> https://nist.time.gov/
>> >
>> >Very intersting. Yes, it says:
>> > "Your clock is off by:
>> > -1.366 s"
>> >
>> >That's the laptop and it means the desktop is off by substantially less
>> >than a second.
>> >
>> >So what does that mean, that desktops are better than laptops, that HP
>> >is better than ACER, that.... nothing at all.
>> If you have a network connection, and your system has an NTP (Network
>> Time protocol) service, then the NTP service will routinely adjust
>> your computer clock to align with the time standard.
>>
>> Many server environments have NTP servers synchronized with GPS
>> satellites to ensure consistent view of time across an entire
>> datacenter.
>>
>> For environments where there isn't a synchronized time environment:
>>
>> https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/pubs/time-clocks.pdf
>
>Ct~t(t) --> Cl(tl') + (1 - ~)(t - tl') - n~. (4) From PC1, IRI' and 2' we deduce that Cl(/l') >" Cl(tl) + (1 -- K)(tl' -- /1). Combining this with (4) and using (2), we get Cn+a(t) > C~(tl) + (1 - x)(t - t~) - n~ (5) for t > tn+l.
>
>That. Micky. Is what's wrong with your clock

Okay. I'll get that fixed.

BTW, my phone had the same time as one of the computers. I think it was
the same as the nist.time.gov.

On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 5:26:49 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 10 Aug 2023 11:27:43 -0700 (PDT), Thomas
> <cano...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 10:49:10?AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> >> micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> writes:
> >> >In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 9 Aug 2023 19:40:29 -0400, Paul
> >> ><nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On 8/9/2023 5:04 PM, micky wrote:
> >> >>> if you set some parameter, you can have the Windows clock display
> >> >>> seconds.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It's in one of the Tweak programs. 7+ Taskbar or Winaero.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Last week I found behind my bookshelp a radio controlled travel clock
> >> >>> that I think I bought at a hamfest for a dollar.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> After I changed the batteries it seems to be working fine, with the
> >> >>> radio beacon icon showing. That must be working because the clock was
> >> >>> off by hours when I first turned it on, and I never set the time.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> And it's been running for a week and the time is always 53 seconds
> >> >>> behind the windows time on the laptop!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hmmm. My desktop is 2 seconds head of my laptop!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Does anybody really know what time it is!
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>Your computer time error, is potentially printed on the right-hand side of this web page.
> >> >>
> >> >> https://nist.time.gov/
> >> >
> >> >Very intersting. Yes, it says:
> >> > "Your clock is off by:
> >> > -1.366 s"
> >> >
> >> >That's the laptop and it means the desktop is off by substantially less
> >> >than a second.
> >> >
> >> >So what does that mean, that desktops are better than laptops, that HP
> >> >is better than ACER, that.... nothing at all.
> >> If you have a network connection, and your system has an NTP (Network
> >> Time protocol) service, then the NTP service will routinely adjust
> >> your computer clock to align with the time standard.
> >>
> >> Many server environments have NTP servers synchronized with GPS
> >> satellites to ensure consistent view of time across an entire
> >> datacenter.
> >>
> >> For environments where there isn't a synchronized time environment:
> >>
> >> https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/pubs/time-clocks.pdf
> >
> >Ct~t(t) --> Cl(tl') + (1 - ~)(t - tl') - n~. (4) From PC1, IRI' and 2' we deduce that Cl(/l') >" Cl(tl) + (1 -- K)(tl' -- /1). Combining this with (4) and using (2), we get Cn+a(t) > C~(tl) + (1 - x)(t - t~) - n~ (5) for t > tn+l.
> >
> >That. Micky. Is what's wrong with your clock
> Okay. I'll get that fixed.
>
> BTW, my phone had the same time as one of the computers. I think it was
> the same as the nist.time.gov.
My 2 weather stations are both 2 minutes off. Different brands. Setting manually does nothing.