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* RQFTCICR14 Game 1, Rounds 9-10 - space, challenge roundMark Brader
+- Re: RQFTCICR14 Game 1, Rounds 9-10 - space, challenge roundJoshua Kreitzer
+- Re: RQFTCICR14 Game 1, Rounds 9-10 - space, challenge roundErland Sommarskog
+- Re: RQFTCICR14 Game 1, Rounds 9-10 - space, challenge roundDan Tilque
+- Re: RQFTCICR14 Game 1, Rounds 9-10 - space, challenge roundDan Blum
+- Re: RQFTCICR14 Game 1, Rounds 9-10 - space, challenge roundPete Gayde
`* RQFTCICR14 Game 1, Rounds 9-10 answers - space, challenge roundMark Brader
 +- Re: RQFTCICR14 Game 1, Rounds 9-10 answers - space, challenge roundErland Sommarskog
 `* Re: RQFTCICR14 Game 1, Rounds 9-10 answers - space, challenge roundDan Tilque
  `- Re: RQFTCICR14 Game 1, Rounds 9-10 answers - space, challenge roundMark Brader

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RQFTCICR14 Game 1, Rounds 9-10 - space, challenge round

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 by: Mark Brader - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 05:20 UTC

These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2014-01-13,
and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
by members of the Cellar Rats, but have been reformatted and may
have been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the correct
answers in about 3 days.

For further information, including an explanation of the """
notation that may appear in these rounds, see my 2022-09-09
companion posting on "Reposted Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".

** Game 1, Round 9 - Science - Space Miscellany

In the original game this was called a miscellaneous round, but it
seems better to classify it as a second science round.

1. In what country was comet ISON discovered?
2. What is a meteorite (as opposed to, say, a meteor)?

3. The Sun """is""" supposed to be in the most active phase of
the solar cycle, but it """is""" not delivering much in the way
of flares -- just some intermediate-strength M-class flares.
Name the class that includes the most powerful flares.

4. What does CME mean, with reference to the sun? Exact answer
required.

5. China achieved a Moon landing """recently""". What is the
two-word name, in English, of its Moon rover?

6. The United States """has""" two active rovers on Mars """at
present""". One is Curiosity. The other is almost 10 years old;
name it.

7. In what crater did Curiosity start its journey on Mars?
8. Within <answer 7> is a mountain which """it is hoped""" Curiosity
"""will""" explore. What is it called?

9. Name either of the two moons of Mars.
10. What term is used for a day on Mars?

** Game 1, Round 10 - Challenge Round

* A. Americana

A1. """Only one name""" has been the surname of both a
US president and a British prime minister. What name?

A2. What state has the most northerly point of the "lower 48"
or contiguous US states?

* B. More Alcoholics

Again, we name the actor/actress and the alcoholic character,
and you name the movie.

B1. Billy Bob Thornton as Willie Stokes.
B2. Meg Ryan as Alice Green.

* C. Historic Storms

C1. In what year was the Great (North American) Ice Storm which
is now known by that date?

C2. In what year did the remains of Hurricane Hazel ravage
Southern Ontario?

* D. Music: The Eyes Have It

We name the artist, and you name their song with "Eye" or "Eyes" in
the title.

D1. Sheena Easton.
D2. Eric Carmen.

* E. Space

E1. Within 10% of the true number, how long is an astronomical
unit?

E2. In the last round we mentioned comet ISON. What is ISON
an acronym for?

* F. Canadiana Geography

F1. Canada """is""" the second-largest country in the world.
Which country """is""" third?

F2. What """is""" Canada's only officially bilingual province?
--
Mark Brader, Toronto, msb@vex.net
The precedence don't enter into it -- it's stone undefined.
This expression makes no sense. It has ceased to be. It's
expired and gone, though sadly not forgotten. This is a latent
expression. Bereft of meaning, it should rest in peace. If
people didn't keep nailing it into these discussions, it would be
pushing up the daisies. It's rung down the curtain and joined
the choir ineffable. This is not an ex-pression.
-- Steve Summit (after Monty Python)

My text in this article is in the public domain.

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 by: Joshua Kreitzer - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 06:23 UTC

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 11:20:12 PM UTC-6, Mark Brader wrote:
>
> ** Game 1, Round 9 - Science - Space Miscellany
>
> 2. What is a meteorite (as opposed to, say, a meteor)?

a rock from space that lands on the Earth
> 9. Name either of the two moons of Mars.

Phobos

> 10. What term is used for a day on Mars?

sol

> ** Game 1, Round 10 - Challenge Round
>
> * A. Americana
>
> A1. """Only one name""" has been the surname of both a
> US president and a British prime minister. What name?

Johnson

> A2. What state has the most northerly point of the "lower 48"
> or contiguous US states?

Maine

> * B. More Alcoholics
>
> Again, we name the actor/actress and the alcoholic character,
> and you name the movie.
>
> B1. Billy Bob Thornton as Willie Stokes.

"Bad Santa"

> B2. Meg Ryan as Alice Green.

"When a Man Loves a Woman"

> * D. Music: The Eyes Have It
>
> We name the artist, and you name their song with "Eye" or "Eyes" in
> the title.
>
> D1. Sheena Easton.

"For Your Eyes Only"

> D2. Eric Carmen.

"Hungry Eyes"

> * E. Space
>
> E1. Within 10% of the true number, how long is an astronomical
> unit?

93,000,000 miles

> * F. Canadiana Geography
>
> F1. Canada """is""" the second-largest country in the world.
> Which country """is""" third?

China
> F2. What """is""" Canada's only officially bilingual province?

New Brunswick

--
Joshua Kreitzer
gromit82@hotmail.com

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Mark Brader (msb@vex.net) writes:
> ** Game 1, Round 9 - Science - Space Miscellany
>
> In the original game this was called a miscellaneous round, but it
> seems better to classify it as a second science round.
>
> 1. In what country was comet ISON discovered?

USSR

> 2. What is a meteorite (as opposed to, say, a meteor)?

It's big enough so it does not burn entirely in the atmoshere,
but reaches to the land or ocean of Earth.
> 9. Name either of the two moons of Mars.

Phobos

> ** Game 1, Round 10 - Challenge Round
>
> * A. Americana
>
> A1. """Only one name""" has been the surname of both a
> US president and a British prime minister. What name?

Wilson
> A2. What state has the most northerly point of the "lower 48"
> or contiguous US states?

Maine
> * E. Space
>
> E1. Within 10% of the true number, how long is an astronomical
> unit?

4.1 light years
> * F. Canadiana Geography
>
> F1. Canada """is""" the second-largest country in the world.
> Which country """is""" third?

China
> F2. What """is""" Canada's only officially bilingual province?

New Brunswick

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 by: Dan Tilque - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 22:21 UTC

On 2/9/23 21:20, Mark Brader wrote:
>
> ** Game 1, Round 9 - Science - Space Miscellany
>
> In the original game this was called a miscellaneous round, but it
> seems better to classify it as a second science round.
>
> 1. In what country was comet ISON discovered?

Chile ??

> 2. What is a meteorite (as opposed to, say, a meteor)?

meteorite is a rock found on the ground; meteor is an aerial phenomenon

>
> 3. The Sun """is""" supposed to be in the most active phase of
> the solar cycle, but it """is""" not delivering much in the way
> of flares -- just some intermediate-strength M-class flares.
> Name the class that includes the most powerful flares.

X-class

>
> 4. What does CME mean, with reference to the sun? Exact answer
> required.

coronal mass ejection

>
> 5. China achieved a Moon landing """recently""". What is the
> two-word name, in English, of its Moon rover?
>
> 6. The United States """has""" two active rovers on Mars """at
> present""". One is Curiosity. The other is almost 10 years old;
> name it.

Opportunity

(2023 answer is Perseverance)

>
> 7. In what crater did Curiosity start its journey on Mars?

dammit, all I can think of is Jezero crater, but that's Percy's crater

> 8. Within <answer 7> is a mountain which """it is hoped""" Curiosity
> """will""" explore. What is it called?
>
> 9. Name either of the two moons of Mars.

Deimos

> 10. What term is used for a day on Mars?

sol

>
>
> ** Game 1, Round 10 - Challenge Round
>
> * A. Americana
>
> A1. """Only one name""" has been the surname of both a
> US president and a British prime minister. What name?

Wilson

(more recently: Johnson)

>
> A2. What state has the most northerly point of the "lower 48"
> or contiguous US states?

Minnesota

>
>
> * B. More Alcoholics
>
> Again, we name the actor/actress and the alcoholic character,
> and you name the movie.
>
> B1. Billy Bob Thornton as Willie Stokes.
> B2. Meg Ryan as Alice Green.
>
>
> * C. Historic Storms
>
> C1. In what year was the Great (North American) Ice Storm which
> is now known by that date?

1989

>
> C2. In what year did the remains of Hurricane Hazel ravage
> Southern Ontario?
>
>
> * D. Music: The Eyes Have It
>
> We name the artist, and you name their song with "Eye" or "Eyes" in
> the title.
>
> D1. Sheena Easton.
> D2. Eric Carmen.
>
>
> * E. Space
>
> E1. Within 10% of the true number, how long is an astronomical
> unit?

150 million Km

>
> E2. In the last round we mentioned comet ISON. What is ISON
> an acronym for?
>
>
> * F. Canadiana Geography
>
> F1. Canada """is""" the second-largest country in the world.
> Which country """is""" third?

China

>
> F2. What """is""" Canada's only officially bilingual province?

New Brunswick

--
Dan Tilque

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 by: Dan Blum - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 22:51 UTC

Mark Brader <msb@vex.net> wrote:

> ** Game 1, Round 9 - Science - Space Miscellany

> 1. In what country was comet ISON discovered?

France; China

> 2. What is a meteorite (as opposed to, say, a meteor)?

a piece of an extraterrene object that reaches the ground

> 4. What does CME mean, with reference to the sun? Exact answer
> required.

coronal mass ejection

> 6. The United States """has""" two active rovers on Mars """at
> present""". One is Curiosity. The other is almost 10 years old;
> name it.

Sojourner

> 9. Name either of the two moons of Mars.

Phobos

> ** Game 1, Round 10 - Challenge Round

> * A. Americana

> A1. """Only one name""" has been the surname of both a
> US president and a British prime minister. What name?

Johnson

> A2. What state has the most northerly point of the "lower 48"
> or contiguous US states?

Maine

> * C. Historic Storms

> C1. In what year was the Great (North American) Ice Storm which
> is now known by that date?

1977

> * E. Space

> E1. Within 10% of the true number, how long is an astronomical
> unit?

93 million miles

> * F. Canadiana Geography

> F1. Canada """is""" the second-largest country in the world.
> Which country """is""" third?

USA

> F2. What """is""" Canada's only officially bilingual province?

New Brunswick

--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum tool@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."

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 by: Pete Gayde - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 22:47 UTC

Mark Brader wrote:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2014-01-13,
> and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
> by members of the Cellar Rats, but have been reformatted and may
> have been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the correct
> answers in about 3 days.
>
> For further information, including an explanation of the """
> notation that may appear in these rounds, see my 2022-09-09
> companion posting on "Reposted Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
>
>
> ** Game 1, Round 9 - Science - Space Miscellany
>
> In the original game this was called a miscellaneous round, but it
> seems better to classify it as a second science round.
>
> 1. In what country was comet ISON discovered?
> 2. What is a meteorite (as opposed to, say, a meteor)?
>
> 3. The Sun """is""" supposed to be in the most active phase of
> the solar cycle, but it """is""" not delivering much in the way
> of flares -- just some intermediate-strength M-class flares.
> Name the class that includes the most powerful flares.
>
> 4. What does CME mean, with reference to the sun? Exact answer
> required.
>
> 5. China achieved a Moon landing """recently""". What is the
> two-word name, in English, of its Moon rover?
>
> 6. The United States """has""" two active rovers on Mars """at
> present""". One is Curiosity. The other is almost 10 years old;
> name it.

Discovery

>
> 7. In what crater did Curiosity start its journey on Mars?
> 8. Within <answer 7> is a mountain which """it is hoped""" Curiosity
> """will""" explore. What is it called?
>
> 9. Name either of the two moons of Mars.
> 10. What term is used for a day on Mars?

Sol

>
>
> ** Game 1, Round 10 - Challenge Round
>
> * A. Americana
>
> A1. """Only one name""" has been the surname of both a
> US president and a British prime minister. What name?

Johnson

>
> A2. What state has the most northerly point of the "lower 48"
> or contiguous US states?

Minnesota; Maine

>
>
> * B. More Alcoholics
>
> Again, we name the actor/actress and the alcoholic character,
> and you name the movie.
>
> B1. Billy Bob Thornton as Willie Stokes.
> B2. Meg Ryan as Alice Green.
>
>
> * C. Historic Storms
>
> C1. In what year was the Great (North American) Ice Storm which
> is now known by that date?
>
> C2. In what year did the remains of Hurricane Hazel ravage
> Southern Ontario?
>
>
> * D. Music: The Eyes Have It
>
> We name the artist, and you name their song with "Eye" or "Eyes" in
> the title.
>
> D1. Sheena Easton.

Bette Davis Eyes

> D2. Eric Carmen.

Eye of the Tiger

>
>
> * E. Space
>
> E1. Within 10% of the true number, how long is an astronomical
> unit?
>
> E2. In the last round we mentioned comet ISON. What is ISON
> an acronym for?
>
>
> * F. Canadiana Geography
>
> F1. Canada """is""" the second-largest country in the world.
> Which country """is""" third?

Brazil

>
> F2. What """is""" Canada's only officially bilingual province?

New Brunswick; Nova Scotia

>

Pete Gayde

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 by: Mark Brader - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 08:23 UTC

Mark Brader:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2014-01-13,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information...
> see my 2022-09-09 companion posting on "Reposted Questions from
> the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".

Sorry, I'm a day late again. Anyway, Game 1 is over and the winner
is JOSHUA KREITZER. Hearty congratulations, eh?

> ** Game 1, Round 9 - Science - Space Miscellany

> In the original game this was called a miscellaneous round, but it
> seems better to classify it as a second science round.

In the original game, this was this was the hardest round in the
entire season.

> 1. In what country was comet ISON discovered?

Russia.

Erland was over off by decades, everyone else by long distances.

> 2. What is a meteorite (as opposed to, say, a meteor)?

A piece of space rock that reaches the ground. 4 for Joshua, Erland,
Dan Tilque, and Dan Blum.

> 3. The Sun """is""" supposed to be in the most active phase of
> the solar cycle, but it """is""" not delivering much in the way
> of flares -- just some intermediate-strength M-class flares.
> Name the class that includes the most powerful flares.

X. 4 for Dan Tilque.

In fact the first X-class flare of the then-current cycle occurred
the day after this game was originally played.

> 4. What does CME mean, with reference to the sun? Exact answer
> required.

Coronal mass ejection. 4 for Dan Tilque and Dan Blum.

> 5. China achieved a Moon landing """recently""". What is the
> two-word name, in English, of its Moon rover?

Jade Rabbit.

Its successor is Jade Rabbit 2. The original rover operated for
over 2 years; the second one, on the far side of the Moon, is still
operating after more than 4 years.

> 6. The United States """has""" two active rovers on Mars """at
> present""". One is Curiosity. The other is almost 10 years old;
> name it.

2014 answer: Opportunity. (It operated 2004-18.) 2023 answer: I
will accept Perseverance, although it's only been active since 2021.
Curiosity, by the way, is still active and has been since 2012.
4 for Dan Tilque.

Sojourner was only active for a few months in 1996-97. Discovery was
the name of the program under which it was launched, but that name has
not itself been used fora Mars rover.

> 7. In what crater did Curiosity start its journey on Mars?

Gale crater.

> 8. Within <answer 7> is a mountain which """it is hoped""" Curiosity
> """will""" explore. What is it called?

Mt. Sharp or Aeolis Mons. (It did.)

> 9. Name either of the two moons of Mars.

Phobos, Deimos. 4 for Joshua, Erland, Dan Tilque, and Dan Blum.

> 10. What term is used for a day on Mars?

A sol. 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, and Pete.

> ** Game 1, Round 10 - Challenge Round

> * A. Americana

> A1. """Only one name""" has been the surname of both a
> US president and a British prime minister. What name?

2014 answer: Wilson. (Woodrow, Harold.) 2023 answer: Now also
Johnson. (Andrew and Lyndon, Boris.) 4 for everyone -- Joshua,
Erland, Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, and Pete.

> A2. What state has the most northerly point of the "lower 48"
> or contiguous US states?

Minnesota. 4 for Dan Tilque. 3 for Pete.

Maine is nowhere close to correct -- it's wrong by almost 2° of
latitude or about 130 miles or 215 km. You *four* people who tried
that answer need to deign to look at a Mercator-projection map once
in a while.

> * B. More Alcoholics

> Again, we name the actor/actress and the alcoholic character,
> and you name the movie.

> B1. Billy Bob Thornton as Willie Stokes.

2014 answer: "Bad Santa" (2003). 2023 answer: Now also "Bad Santa 2"
(2016). 4 for Joshua.

> B2. Meg Ryan as Alice Green.

"When a Man Loves a Woman" (1994). 4 for Joshua.

> * C. Historic Storms

> C1. In what year was the Great (North American) Ice Storm which
> is now known by that date?

1998.

> C2. In what year did the remains of Hurricane Hazel ravage
> Southern Ontario?

1954.

> * D. Music: The Eyes Have It

> We name the artist, and you name their song with "Eye" or "Eyes" in
> the title.

> D1. Sheena Easton.

"For Your Eyes Only". 4 for Joshua.

> D2. Eric Carmen.

"Hungry Eyes". 4 for Joshua.

> * E. Space

> E1. Within 10% of the true number, how long is an astronomical
> unit?

149,597,900 km (accepting 134,638,100-164,557,700) or 92,955,800
miles (accepting 83,660,200-102,257,400). 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque,
and Dan Blum.

> E2. In the last round we mentioned comet ISON. What is ISON
> an acronym for?

International Scientific Optical Network. Since it was a name,
you had to be exact.

> * F. Canadiana Geography

> F1. Canada """is""" the second-largest country in the world.
> Which country """is""" third?

Either China or the US, depending on what source you accept and
what measure of area you're using. The US was expected in the
original game, but I'm accepting either answer. 4 for Joshua,
Erland, Dan Tilque, and Dan Blum.

> F2. What """is""" Canada's only officially bilingual province?

New Brunswick (Nouveau-Brunswick). (Still true.) 4 for Joshua,
Erland, Dan Tilque, and Dan Blum. 3 for Pete.

On this one Stephen Perry commented in 2014:
| I thought manitoba was also, since the 1985 lawsuit kerfluffle, but
| I am not going to lose the point for a second answer just to get it
| 'the hard way'.

He was talking about this Supreme Court case:

http://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/60/index.do

But the subject matter is limited to the enactment of provincial laws.
Official bilingual status extends beyond that.

Scores, if there are no errors:

GAME 1 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 BEST
TOPICS-> Ent His Geo Lit Sci Spo Sci Cha SIX
Joshua Kreitzer 28 36 32 32 4 0 12 32 172
Dan Tilque 4 19 32 8 16 0 24 20 119
Dan Blum 20 16 23 20 16 0 12 16 111
Pete Gayde -- -- 16 16 7 20 4 10 73
Erland Sommarskog 0 8 28 0 11 0 8 12 67

--
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Mark Brader (msb@vex.net) writes:
>> 1. In what country was comet ISON discovered?
>
> Russia.
>

I had no idea what it was (and I first read JSON, which is not a
comet at all). But I figured that the larger the area, the better
chance for discovery. And since I didn't know then, USSR seemed
even larger and better.

> You *four* people who tried that answer need to deign to look at a
> Mercator-projection map once in a while.

I thought using sources was not not permitted? :-)

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 by: Dan Tilque - Wed, 15 Feb 2023 11:37 UTC

On 2/14/23 00:23, Mark Brader wrote:
> Mark Brader:
>
>> A2. What state has the most northerly point of the "lower 48"
>> or contiguous US states?
>
> Minnesota. 4 for Dan Tilque. 3 for Pete.
>
> Maine is nowhere close to correct -- it's wrong by almost 2° of
> latitude or about 130 miles or 215 km. You *four* people who tried
> that answer need to deign to look at a Mercator-projection map once
> in a while.

You can't blame them too harshly. Most non-Mercator maps (which means
most maps) of the US are slightly rotated counter-clockwise, putting
Maine at the same distance from the top of the map as Washington state.
This gives people a mistaken notion of the relative northness
(northicity?) of places on opposite sides of the country.

--
Dan Tilque

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 by: Mark Brader - Wed, 15 Feb 2023 20:04 UTC

Mark Brader:
> > You *four* people who tried that answer need to deign to look at
> > a Mercator-projection map once in a while.

Dan Tilque:
> You can't blame them too harshly. Most non-Mercator maps (which means
> most maps) of the US...

Exactly my point!
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