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* Re: Williams / United Shuffle Alley Manual Needed Sys 3-7Bradley West
`* Re: Williams / United Shuffle Alley Manual Needed Sys 3-7Paul
 `* Re: Williams / United Shuffle Alley Manual Needed Sys 3-7jeffC
  `- Re: Williams / United Shuffle Alley Manual Needed Sys 3-7pinworks

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Subject: Re: Williams / United Shuffle Alley Manual Needed Sys 3-7
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 by: Bradley West - Wed, 17 Nov 2021 23:39 UTC

On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 4:03:19 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
> On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 3:24:58 PM UTC-4, pinnut wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 1:31:10 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
> > > I know not really pinball, but thought someone out there may have a scan of a manual. Searched for a while online and nothing really shows up :(
> > >
> > > Looking for schematics mostly showing what transistors drive what. Pin reset motor keeps cycling from the time you turn it on and the relay isn't magnetized as I have read about in other posts.
> > >
> > > Alleys from this era are:
> > > Topaz
> > > Taurus
> > > King Tut
> > > Omni
> > > Pompeii
> > > Aristocrat
> > > Big Strike
> > > and I am sure there are others I missed.
> > >
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Paul
> >
> > got something for ya, king tut. whats your email
> >
> > mike
> pefdude@gmail dot com
> Thanks!
I know this is old, but I am looking for an Omni Manual. but I would also take whatrever you have, so I can add it to my archive.

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Subject: Re: Williams / United Shuffle Alley Manual Needed Sys 3-7
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 by: Paul - Thu, 18 Nov 2021 04:50 UTC

On 11/17/2021 6:39 PM, Bradley West wrote:
> On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 4:03:19 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
>> On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 3:24:58 PM UTC-4, pinnut wrote:
>>> On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 1:31:10 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
>>>> I know not really pinball, but thought someone out there may have a scan of a manual. Searched for a while online and nothing really shows up :(
>>>>
>>>> Looking for schematics mostly showing what transistors drive what. Pin reset motor keeps cycling from the time you turn it on and the relay isn't magnetized as I have read about in other posts.
>>>>
>>>> Alleys from this era are:
>>>> Topaz
>>>> Taurus
>>>> King Tut
>>>> Omni
>>>> Pompeii
>>>> Aristocrat
>>>> Big Strike
>>>> and I am sure there are others I missed.
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>
>>> got something for ya, king tut. whats your email
>>>
>>> mike
>> pefdude@gmail dot com
>> Thanks!
> I know this is old, but I am looking for an Omni Manual. but I would also take whatrever you have, so I can add it to my archive.
>
Wow, that was a few years ago. I think I did end up with something. I
will poke around to see if I got something. Pretty sure I did.

Paul

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Subject: Re: Williams / United Shuffle Alley Manual Needed Sys 3-7
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 by: jeffC - Thu, 18 Nov 2021 14:55 UTC

On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 11:50:15 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
> On 11/17/2021 6:39 PM, Bradley West wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 4:03:19 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
> >> On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 3:24:58 PM UTC-4, pinnut wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 1:31:10 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
> >>>> I know not really pinball, but thought someone out there may have a scan of a manual. Searched for a while online and nothing really shows up :(
> >>>>
> >>>> Looking for schematics mostly showing what transistors drive what. Pin reset motor keeps cycling from the time you turn it on and the relay isn't magnetized as I have read about in other posts.
> >>>>
> >>>> Alleys from this era are:
> >>>> Topaz
> >>>> Taurus
> >>>> King Tut
> >>>> Omni
> >>>> Pompeii
> >>>> Aristocrat
> >>>> Big Strike
> >>>> and I am sure there are others I missed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul
> >>>
> >>> got something for ya, king tut. whats your email
> >>>
> >>> mike
> >> pefdude AT gmail dot com
> >> Thanks!
> > I know this is old, but I am looking for an Omni Manual. but I would also take whatrever you have, so I can add it to my archive.
> >
> Wow, that was a few years ago. I think I did end up with something. I
> will poke around to see if I got something. Pretty sure I did.
>
> Paul

King Tut shuffle alley manual is here:
https://www.progettosnaps.net/manuals/pdf/kingt_l1.pdf

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 by: pinworks - Thu, 25 Nov 2021 20:09 UTC

On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 9:55:21 AM UTC-5, jeffC wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 11:50:15 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
> > On 11/17/2021 6:39 PM, Bradley West wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 4:03:19 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
> > >> On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 3:24:58 PM UTC-4, pinnut wrote:
> > >>> On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 1:31:10 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
> > >>>> I know not really pinball, but thought someone out there may have a scan of a manual. Searched for a while online and nothing really shows up :(
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Looking for schematics mostly showing what transistors drive what. Pin reset motor keeps cycling from the time you turn it on and the relay isn't magnetized as I have read about in other posts.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Alleys from this era are:
> > >>>> Topaz
> > >>>> Taurus
> > >>>> King Tut
> > >>>> Omni
> > >>>> Pompeii
> > >>>> Aristocrat
> > >>>> Big Strike
> > >>>> and I am sure there are others I missed.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Paul
> > >>>
> > >>> got something for ya, king tut. whats your email
> > >>>
> > >>> mike
> > >> pefdude AT gmail dot com
> > >> Thanks!
> > > I know this is old, but I am looking for an Omni Manual. but I would also take whatrever you have, so I can add it to my archive.
> > >
> > Wow, that was a few years ago. I think I did end up with something. I
> > will poke around to see if I got something. Pretty sure I did.
> >
> > Paul
> King Tut shuffle alley manual is here:
> https://www.progettosnaps.net/manuals/pdf/kingt_l1.pdf
I just recently worked on one of those.
1. Check the following contact points:
a. There is a relay mounted beside the motor. When the game is off, the points should be open. When the game is on and you are not
actually needing the pins reset, the points should be open and the relay should not be pulled in.
b. There is a set of points on a metal cam. The cam turns when the motor runs. There is a low spot on the cam. The points must
open when the cam reaches the low spot.
2. Check that the brake on the motor is moving in and out properly. If the motor runs all the time, turn the game off and inspect the brake. It should move in and out freely. (the brake is the little wheel inside the motor rotor) If it is stuck, use non flammable contact cleaner to loosen it up until it moves really freely.
3. If everything else looks good but you still have a problem, cut a small rectangle of cereal box cardboard so that it fits into the relay in step 1 a above. The cardboard goes between the coil and the plate that the coil operates.

The problem with the game I worked on was fixed with the small square of cardboard. The plate had started sticking to the coil. I am not
convinced it was a magnet field. I think something was binding in the mech, but I could not see anything. The cardboard decreased the amount of travel of the plate and the sticking stopped.

Good luck
pinworks


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