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Subject: Re: Exactly one hour ago
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> The Blob is a known career killer. Look what it did to McQueen. He hasn't made a movie in years.

He's blobbing his way through celebrity pay dirt as we speak. All dead things turn into blobs. But most people are stupid. They are so afraid of the dirt they pay big bucks to have themselves put in coffins. Now they are trapped. Oh, they can roll around ever so slowly in there - if the coffin is big enough. But to roll free - to blob one's way through the earth over thousands of centuries, slower than a tortoise, in no rush, taking it slow and easy - easy does it - oh man, what a kick. I heard that McQueen read all about blobs after playing the role, became absorbed with the topic, engulfed by it's mystique, and later heard the truth about the blob from a Shaman in Mexico when he came down with cancer and went down there for alternative new age treatment, that when we die we all become blobs and it's best to roll free, not to stupidly confine ourselves to anything. In words I could never duplicate - they rolled from his mouth with ease, like the talking of tongues but readily understandable, very intuitive, very earthy - he said that being a blob is the greatest achievement a human could ever hope for.

"Be not afraid, for in death we are free to roll" - Joe Blob, 1947

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> Still waiting for the results of those clinical trials on coffee enemas Stevie took part in. I tried some myself. A little thick but not bad.

I knew he was into some esoteric shit to save his life but I never went deep enough into it to know he took coffee enemas, although I've heard of them.. Pretty funny all the way around what the annoying will to live can do to people, especially if they have money. Funny going to Mexico for help. Kind of like buying something advertised on TV that grows only in a small region of China that few people know about, yet millions have been enjoying it's benefits for years. McQueen wanted to live! To make more movies to wow us. His last movie he looked really weak, played some kind of cop or bail bondsman. Kind of thin. I liked McQueen but not as a tough guy or cop which seemed to be what they had him playing most of the time. Pretty funny though - the whole thing. On the one hand I can understand people not trusting the American medical establishment, so I can't fault Stevie for heading south of the border. On the other hand, to believe some secret magic cure exists somewhere in the world - and there isn't a miles long line already formed - I've got to wonder about the desperation of that person. Stevie died desperate. But now that he is dead does he stay desperate or does he get to relax like the rest of them? Will we ever know?

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> Can't say he died young but he was not old either. Middle aged. Had a few good movies left in him but he would have faded out in the end.
> Maybe a TV show that laasts half a season.

Not enough enduring character, not enough strength. He was ok as the loser, like in the Cincinnati Kid. I think he would have been better than Newman in the Hustler. Not that I care. The Hustler is another one of those movies, every time I see it, which lately is not often, I think it sucks worse and worse. But certain scenes are good. The ones with George C. Scott analyzing the loser side of the Fast Eddie character - I enjoyed those. I enjoy the sports psychology aspect of it. They forced the love story into it. I am not against love stories at all, but the story looked like it was haphazardly tossed together. I read the book by the way, very short or I would have read it. Anyway, I didn't mind McQueen, but I think he was miscast as the strong silent type. Of course like anyone in the movie industry I suppose he was lucky to be cast in anything.

He got lucky

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> I would say his big movies were Papillion and Sand Pebbles. Big productions with supporting star power and good story. I can actually think of quite a few movies with him in them. Guess that counts for something.

Absolutely. No argument, not even close. I was not a fan of McQueen in movies that called on him to be the big hero - the tough guy. They did that with him late in his career - and he let it happen - and I did not like him in those roles. Even the TV show where he played the bounty hunter, interesting and only half an hour, but again, too heroic at times. Notice in Papillon and even the Sand Pebbles he was the lead but not the flat out lead, they were more ensemble work. I love using those terms. Learned them when I burst onto the scene years ago and wormed my way into Hollywood for inside information. Anyway, I like McQueen. I guess it's like a singer - you may love their voice but not the songs they sing. The song counts for a lot. So does the movie. McQueen stayed out of the way. Maybe that is a talent in itself. William Holden was that way too. He was there, a definite lead, but he stayed out of the way. I like Holden. But it has to be the right movie. Same with me. I'm a great actor. But I need the right role.. So far it has not come along. I'm waiting.

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> Holden was the reluctant hero. Like in Stalag 17. He was bitter and cynical but would in the end show up other so called heros. Bridge on the River Kwai is similar to Stalag in some ways.

Yes. Exactly. I say the same about McQueen. These guys are not the type to go into bars and slam people around. But because they are known actors they sometimes wind up in those heroic type roles. They are not suited for them. These guys are better are regular Joes, or in Holden's case a somewhat educated professional type who just happens to get involved in something without wanting to. The stories were good. I like Holden and McQueen both. But both movies mentioned would have been good without them. How good? We'll never know. And that's the way I want it.

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> If I really like a movie (you know like really like) it is no fun to imagine different actors in the roles. Perhaps it is accidental
> how the right actor for a role happens. With the studio system actors often were a result of being under contract to the producing company. Maybe that was a good system. All the free lancing doesn't seem to improve pictures any.

I don't disagree with that for even a minute. I don't usually go around thinking about this or that person doing a better job, especially if I like the movie. I'm only doing it because the movie has already been made and it's something to talk about. And it does come into play, unless it's post production promotion bullshit - you know, where they say George Raft was slated to play Rick in Casablanca but turned it down or whatever. We have no way of knowing if these stories are true. But even if they are, and even if Raft was a rock, truth is if the story is good and the supporting cast is good and the music is good I'm sure the lead is sometimes overrated. Ok, let's say not necessary. Maybe Bogart did the best anybody could ever do in that role, but we don't know, and just like you I don't really care. I don't dwell on that stuff. But sometimes if a guy gets too much credit for my liking, yes, in that case I will begin to imagine someone doing a better job in the role. The old studio system was fine with me. I gave up on the movies long ago. I don't care if a good one comes out, I'm not chasing after it. I look at some of the stuff on TV, even mediocre stuff - or at least not great - Mannix, stuff like that - and it's better made than a lot of known and respected movies that came out earlier. The screen is smaller.. Overall I don't care about movies going down the tubes. In fact I sort of root for it to happen. I think good TV is better than the good movies of today, which isn't saying much. But really when you look at what the TV gives us, try to go back and imagine seeing all this TV stuff back 50 years ago and I think it might blow you away. The movies can go the way of the circus. Get that shit out of my town.

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> It has to entertain me or it is useless. Make me laugh, cry, scream. Do it clown.

I am entertained by all kinds of stuff including what some might call garbage. So when I put down assholes for liking garbage, it's only because it's not my kind of garbage, which means it stinks. I know, I know, garbage is supposed to stink. Fine, I get it. But only if it stinks my way. It's the Ahn-Ka philosophy of life - it's got to be "My Way."

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> Look at the way music is changing. it is unrecognizable from 50 years ago.. Perhaps it always changed a lot but I doubt it. Garbage is the new art. Worse the better. Maybe My way is not the way to go.

It is garbage to the nth degree. Seems like most of it is based on cheerleader chants and marine corp drill instructor call and response style marching. Same type shit. Really childish. "But can't you see how great this is?", supporters of this junk cry. "Can't you see what this means? It means anybody can be an artist today. Isn't that the way it should be?"

I felt the same way when I was younger. Anybody can be an artist. Anybody can be President of the United States. And it holds true even to this day. Anybody can get in. Almost anybody. Fortunately recording were around during our time, so we have good music in our vaults. Imagine if all you could do was imagine good old music while at the same time being eternally bombarded with this new shit that seems to come from the oldest place of our earth's existence - the mud pit swamps of the past - today's ultra loud get down and groove electro-funk-o-tronic version of yesteryear's subterranean caveman blues.

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> People who are Classical music purist must have felt that way for decades and now are insane over it. Rolll over Beethoven.

A lot of old songs, the stuff I like - a lot of it has what could and probably would be seen today as 'corny' lyrics. But starting in the 60s and so they became too serious, too personal. Just like comedy, it had to be socially relevant. I am not saying music was better in the 30s and 40s, only that the songs were better. Better structured. Pliable. To this day many are sung. Lots of songs sung these days, like "Georgia" by Ray Charles, and "At Last" by Etta James were written in the 30s and even the 20s. Stephen Foster's stuff can be dolled up in almost any direction - done in many different ways. They were songs. Today they are arrangements. I'm not saying that good or bad, only that the bare bones songs from the 30s and 40s were better structured and open to being done in all kinds of different ways. The songs were better. There is some good music around today, but not the popular stuff - not in my opinion. With the magic of recording which did not come to be until a little over a century ago we are now able to listen only to what we like and block out the other stuff. But I am an extremely open minded guy, so I listen to new stuff now and then, usually for one purpose, to see if it sucks as much as I thought it did. In other words, I'm fair. I give it a second and even sometimes a third or fourth chance. But hey that's me - Joe Fair.

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> I have gotten to where I do not like to talk about the evolution of music or anything. Time for another big bang. Actually I lied. I am a liar. I will talk about anything when I am talkative. In fact my favorite song is sounds of silence. No lyrics, no music, no sound. Perfect.

I used to think about the sounds of silence at the poolroom where the jukebox would play the same shit over and over and I wondered why someone can't put a quarter in to buy 4 minutes of silence. Make that one of the buttons - "Silence" - pump in a few bucks and enjoy. I agree, I too am talkative when I'm in the mood, feeling the energy. Come on, anything. Anything. Let me have it man. Come on punk, throw me your speed ball and show me what you got.

I can tell when you're not in the mood. I'm sure you can sense it from me too. Like a dog on a leash barking at anything passing by, in time it gets tired of it and just goes through the motions with little 'woofs' coming out of his mouth. I am sometimes not in the mood. But I do not want the newsgroup to die. Even when not in the mood I feel obligated to respond. Other times I can't shut up even if I have nothing to say.

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> This is my speed. Faster than the mail but not as urgent as the phone. In between. Thats the best.

I agree. I am amazed at the number of internet people I meet who don't know what a newsgroup is. I can understand people not wanting to type all the time. They want the pictures, most of themselves and their pets and families, etc. For these people Facebook is an open wallet full of pictures. And inspirational type comments. It's sickening. It's not Facebook alone, it's the people. The other day at the therapist I signed in with a worker at a cubicle. She had pictures all her stall. I don't blame her for that. But there were also inspirational-style posts all over the place. The same shit we see on Facebook (and other sites). No, this is my style here. I wouldn't care much if they suddenly went back to where we had to wait 9 hours for our posts to appear. I prefer it the way it is, but I could handle the 9 hour wait. It's part of the newsgroup's appeal for sure, the no-rush aspect of it. I never went for the instant messaging thing either. But hey, that's me.

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> Most of what I like becomes obsolete. Lucky the NG still exists. But it too will go away. I am now depressed. I am going away.

Everything I like becomes obsolete. To be fair I am sure that happens to all people. But some may be too stupid to notice it. So no way can they say they suffer more than I do with it. They are closing me out. Making me obsolete. And I love it. Unfortunately a new regime will soon come into power that mandates death for anyone deemed obsolete. In the meantime it's quite a luxury.

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> We elected leaders who tell us we are not essential. What does that make them?

I elected no one. And in the end I don't think it matters. You know how the vaccine people feel about those who refuse it? They feel superior to the non-vaxers. They are protecting the world, the non-vaxers are will to destroy it. Well, I know that feeling because I get it to in other ways. Like now, never having elected anyone, I feel superior, above it all - a God almost. Now of course some could say I contributed to what we've got today as they did, even without voting. They could be right. But I don't care about that either. See, I don't care and they do. But they don't really, they just pretend to. That takes work. Workers are suckers. So once again, they lose, and I win!

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> No one is capable of being a good leader all the time. of course I am not pro leader but I am also not crazy thinking you can have a society without structure and rules. I wish I was one of those old time mountain men that all they need was a gun and some ocasional Injun pussy.

I am all for structure and rules and order. But let's face it, no matter what it is, in time it goes overboard. That's the way it is with everything.. If you're born at just the right time you might get both at their peak - the safety of rules to keep you safe, but on the verge of going overboard with too many rules. Around that time groups clamoring for less rules move it. Just enough of them to not be able to do anything but to keep the rules people from going overboard. It's like when a capitalist society goes too far it becomes communist, and when a communist society goes too far it becomes capitalist. You have to get lucky and be born at just the right time when different systems have blended peacefully - before everything explodes into total chaos.

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On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 9:55:18 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > No one is capable of being a good leader all the time. of course I am not pro leader but I am also not crazy thinking you can have a society without structure and rules. I wish I was one of those old time mountain men that all they need was a gun and some ocasional Injun pussy.
> I am all for structure and rules and order. But let's face it, no matter what it is, in time it goes overboard. That's the way it is with everything.. If you're born at just the right time you might get both at their peak - the safety of rules to keep you safe, but on the verge of going overboard with too many rules. Around that time groups clamoring for less rules move it. Just enough of them to not be able to do anything but to keep the rules people from going overboard. It's like when a capitalist society goes too far it becomes communist, and when a communist society goes too far it becomes capitalist. You have to get lucky and be born at just the right time when different systems have blended peacefully - before everything explodes into total chaos.

Like tectonic plates rubbing against each other building up to the big quake. Yes that is it. Perfect metaphor.

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> Like tectonic plates rubbing against each other building up to the big quake. Yes that is it. Perfect metaphor.

Our earth is a volcano. It's boiling away inside. All the talk from scientists and outer space hobbyists concerns meteors slamming into earth or invasions from other planets. Sure, those are threats. But not as immediate and obvious as the our own earth which is one giant volcano waiting to burst wide open and explode into the great beyond which itself is waiting to explode.

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On Sunday, October 3, 2021 at 10:24:18 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Like tectonic plates rubbing against each other building up to the big quake. Yes that is it. Perfect metaphor.
> Our earth is a volcano. It's boiling away inside. All the talk from scientists and outer space hobbyists concerns meteors slamming into earth or invasions from other planets. Sure, those are threats. But not as immediate and obvious as the our own earth which is one giant volcano waiting to burst wide open and explode into the great beyond which itself is waiting to explode.

I went to Yellowstone this summer. It is suppose to blow up and kill everyone in the US. Well it didn't while I was there so I was a bit disappointed.

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> I went to Yellowstone this summer. It is suppose to blow up and kill everyone in the US. Well it didn't while I was there so I was a bit disappointed.

You were all over the place this summer. I haven't been out of this town in 20 years. I'm not complaining. More than 20 years actually. Incredible.. To me Yellowstone and all the big and little volcanos of earth are outlets for what's going on inside our earth even in areas without volcanos - because the earth itself is one giant volcano and one day it's going to erupt big time. To see it from outer space, oh man, how cool. No really though, pretty scary how fragile life is, yet how strong it can never die. I guess things had to be just right temperature wise for life to start, very much like the temperature for making yogurt, it can't go over or under a certain number or the culture, which is life, will not take. Look at our earth. Lots of uninhabitable places that will probably be inhabited one day in some way. But looking at the mighty oceans. the North and South poles, the huge deserts, places not very friendly to life - the widow of opportunity for life to start in the first place had to be pretty small with everything just right. We are germs. No question about it.

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 by: OllieNorthie@aol.com - Sat, 9 Oct 2021 17:43 UTC

On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 1:10:07 AM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I went to Yellowstone this summer. It is suppose to blow up and kill everyone in the US. Well it didn't while I was there so I was a bit disappointed.
> You were all over the place this summer. I haven't been out of this town in 20 years. I'm not complaining. More than 20 years actually. Incredible. To me Yellowstone and all the big and little volcanos of earth are outlets for what's going on inside our earth even in areas without volcanos - because the earth itself is one giant volcano and one day it's going to erupt big time. To see it from outer space, oh man, how cool. No really though, pretty scary how fragile life is, yet how strong it can never die. I guess things had to be just right temperature wise for life to start, very much like the temperature for making yogurt, it can't go over or under a certain number or the culture, which is life, will not take. Look at our earth. Lots of uninhabitable places that will probably be inhabited one day in some way. But looking at the mighty oceans. the North and South poles, the huge deserts, places not very friendly to life - the widow of opportunity for life to start in the first place had to be pretty small with everything just right. We are germs. No question about it.

Comets are more likely to end life than volcanoes in my way of thinking. Life on earth is a short timeline in the timeline of the universe. Maybe shorter with each passing day.

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 by: Judith Latham - Sat, 9 Oct 2021 19:32 UTC

On 10/9/2021 1:43 PM, OllieNorthie@aol.com wrote:
> On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 1:10:07 AM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I went to Yellowstone this summer. It is suppose to blow up and kill everyone in the US. Well it didn't while I was there so I was a bit disappointed.
>> You were all over the place this summer. I haven't been out of this town in 20 years. I'm not complaining. More than 20 years actually. Incredible. To me Yellowstone and all the big and little volcanos of earth are outlets for what's going on inside our earth even in areas without volcanos - because the earth itself is one giant volcano and one day it's going to erupt big time. To see it from outer space, oh man, how cool. No really though, pretty scary how fragile life is, yet how strong it can never die. I guess things had to be just right temperature wise for life to start, very much like the temperature for making yogurt, it can't go over or under a certain number or the culture, which is life, will not take. Look at our earth. Lots of uninhabitable places that will probably be inhabited one day in some way. But looking at the mighty oceans. the North and South poles, the huge deserts, places not very friendly to life - the widow of opportunity for life to start in the first place had to be pretty small with everything just right. We are germs. No question about it.
>
>
> Comets are more likely to end life than volcanoes in my way of thinking. Life on earth is a short timeline in the timeline of the universe. Maybe shorter with each passing day.
>
Not me,I'm eternal. I haven't died yet and I have no intention of doing
so. Earth may some day cease to exist but I'll find somewhere to
survive. I must or else.

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> Comets are more likely to end life than volcanoes in my way of thinking. Life on earth is a short timeline in the timeline of the universe. Maybe shorter with each passing day.

I tend to look at our earth as a body with a lot of pimples on it to let out the ooze along with larger pimples known as boils and carbuncles which are like mighty volcanoes. But the whole body is a one big volcano. Every pore is a volcano of varying size. Same with the earth. Inside it is bubbling away. It could explode any time. Are you ready?

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Subject: Re: Exactly one hour ago
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 by: Thomas Joseph - Mon, 11 Oct 2021 23:23 UTC

> What is amazing to me is the fact everything is anti-life but here we are..

The things that are anti life are life too - that's why we can't die. Harsh weather, a tornado - these things in themselves are life. That is my philosophy. Another of my philosophies is, "If you're going to have a philosophy, be willing to die for it." As a result, if you challenge my philosophy about everything being life, even death, then I'm afraid I might have to kill you. You will die but your life will go on.

Roll on Daddy, roll on


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