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 by: Slevin - Sat, 8 Apr 2023 00:02 UTC

God created Man and Woman
Democrats created all the other genders.

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 by: AK - Sat, 8 Apr 2023 01:13 UTC

On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 7:02:53 PM UTC-5, Slevin wrote:
> God created Man and Woman
> Democrats created all the other genders.
You need to be more clear.

Andy

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On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 8:02:53 PM UTC-4, Slevin wrote:
> God created Man and Woman
> Democrats created all the other genders.
Plus one big one.

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 by: micky - Sat, 8 Apr 2023 03:10 UTC

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 7 Apr 2023 18:13:52 -0700 (PDT), AK
<scientist77017@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 7:02:53?PM UTC-5, Slevin wrote:
>> God created Man and Woman
>> Democrats created all the other genders.
>You need to be more clear.

Apparently he thinks fruit pickers create apples, birdwatchers create
birds, the weatherman creates both sun and rain, the orthopedists create
broken bones, lepidopterists create butterflies, and so forth. Don't
expect too much from him.
>
>Andy

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 by: T - Sat, 8 Apr 2023 06:33 UTC

On 4/7/23 17:02, Slevin wrote:
> God created Man and Woman

Ya, no fooling! XX and XY.

> Democrats created all the other genders.

To separate us as a people with identity
politics and to destroy the foundation of
our society which is the family. Power
and control.

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 by: Retirednoguilt - Sat, 8 Apr 2023 13:42 UTC

On 4/7/2023 8:02 PM, Slevin wrote:
> God created Man and Woman
> Democrats created all the other genders.

And some people believe that men and women created which ever god they
choose to have faith in.

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 by: Ed P - Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:37 UTC

On 4/8/2023 2:33 AM, T wrote:
> On 4/7/23 17:02, Slevin wrote:
>> God created Man and Woman
>
> Ya, no fooling!  XX and XY.
>
>> Democrats created all the other genders.
>
> To separate us as a people with identity
> politics and to destroy the foundation of
> our society which is the family.  Power
> and control.
>

Sometimes nature screws up. God may have created man and woman but just
look at all the defective people that god made too. Maybe some x and y
got mixed.

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 by: Frank - Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:38 UTC

On 4/7/2023 9:13 PM, AK wrote:
> On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 7:02:53 PM UTC-5, Slevin wrote:
>> God created Man and Woman
>> Democrats created all the other genders.
> You need to be more clear.
>
> Andy

I saw some Canadian rainbow group video and they appeared to have the
letters LGBTQI+ displayed. I guess these stand for Lesbians, Gays,
Trans, Queer but what the hell is I and does plus mean they are adding
more to be determined?

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 by: Dan Espen - Sun, 9 Apr 2023 00:41 UTC

Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> writes:

> On 4/8/2023 2:33 AM, T wrote:
>> On 4/7/23 17:02, Slevin wrote:
>>> God created Man and Woman
>> Ya, no fooling!  XX and XY.
>>
>>> Democrats created all the other genders.
>> To separate us as a people with identity
>> politics and to destroy the foundation of
>> our society which is the family.  Power
>> and control.
>
> Sometimes nature screws up. God may have created man and woman but
> just look at all the defective people that god made too. Maybe some x
> and y got mixed.

Not every person is either XX or XY:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-determination_system

exceptions are rare but do occur.

--
Dan Espen

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 by: T - Sun, 9 Apr 2023 05:11 UTC

On 4/8/23 07:37, Ed P wrote:
> On 4/8/2023 2:33 AM, T wrote:
>> On 4/7/23 17:02, Slevin wrote:
>>> God created Man and Woman
>>
>> Ya, no fooling!  XX and XY.
>>
>>> Democrats created all the other genders.
>>
>> To separate us as a people with identity
>> politics and to destroy the foundation of
>> our society which is the family.  Power
>> and control.
>>
>
> Sometimes nature screws up.
Nature and God are not the same thing. All humans
are made in God Image and Likeness. Maybe not you.
Okay, even you.
>> God may have created man and woman but just
> look at all the defective people that god made too.  Maybe some x and y
> got mixed.
What you are referring to is XXY (Klinefelter syndrome)
and XYY (Jacobs syndrome). They manifest both sexes,
they have both sets of parts, NOT A THIRD SEX! Their
health is pretty bad too.
XX's an XY's do not manifest to the other sex. They
can only mutilate their bodies (which belong to God)
to look like the other sex, well somewhat. They
can NEVER be the other sex. And their hatred,
pronouns, and name calling won't change that either.
There are much better ways to get attention. Trying
being something that merits praise from others. Be a
good and moral person. Treat others well.
Here is an idea. Be a friend. Tell mutilation
candidates that it is okay to be a somewhat
feminine man. Girl like these guy as they
are better listeners and have better hygiene.
And it is okay to be a tom boy. Guys like these
girls a lot because they don't talk too much
and they like sports.
It is far better than telling them it is okay to commit
such a sin/barbarity and eventually suicide out after
the horror of what they have done sets in.

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 by: T - Sun, 9 Apr 2023 05:12 UTC

On 4/8/23 17:41, Dan Espen wrote:
> Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> writes:
>
>> On 4/8/2023 2:33 AM, T wrote:
>>> On 4/7/23 17:02, Slevin wrote:
>>>> God created Man and Woman
>>> Ya, no fooling!  XX and XY.
>>>
>>>> Democrats created all the other genders.
>>> To separate us as a people with identity
>>> politics and to destroy the foundation of
>>> our society which is the family.  Power
>>> and control.
>>
>> Sometimes nature screws up. God may have created man and woman but
>> just look at all the defective people that god made too. Maybe some x
>> and y got mixed.
>
> Not every person is either XX or XY:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-determination_system
>
> exceptions are rare but do occur.
>
>

What you are referring to is XXY (Klinefelter syndrome)
and XYY (Jacobs syndrome). They manifest both sexes,
they have both sets of parts, NOT A THIRD SEX! Their
health is pretty bad too.
Still two sexes.

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 by: Retirednoguilt - Sun, 9 Apr 2023 13:48 UTC

On 4/9/2023 1:11 AM, T wrote:
> On 4/8/23 07:37, Ed P wrote:
>> On 4/8/2023 2:33 AM, T wrote:
>>> On 4/7/23 17:02, Slevin wrote:
>>>> God created Man and Woman
>>>
>>> Ya, no fooling!  XX and XY.
>>>
>>>> Democrats created all the other genders.
>>>
>>> To separate us as a people with identity
>>> politics and to destroy the foundation of
>>> our society which is the family.  Power
>>> and control.
>>>
>>
>> Sometimes nature screws up.
>
> Nature and God are not the same thing.  All humans
> are made in God Image and Likeness.  Maybe not you.
> Okay, even you.
>

If you believe that, you must believe that your god is very fallible.
Why worship such a monster? Also, all these creatures in your god's
image having strong and differing religious beliefs; yet all made in
your god's image? Sounds like an extremely indecisive god to me.

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 by: Ed P - Sun, 9 Apr 2023 15:39 UTC

On 4/9/2023 1:11 AM, T wrote:
> On 4/8/23 07:37, Ed P wrote:
>> On 4/8/2023 2:33 AM, T wrote:
>>> On 4/7/23 17:02, Slevin wrote:
>>>> God created Man and Woman
>>>
>>> Ya, no fooling!  XX and XY.
>>>
>>>> Democrats created all the other genders.
>>>
>>> To separate us as a people with identity
>>> politics and to destroy the foundation of
>>> our society which is the family.  Power
>>> and control.
>>>
>>
>> Sometimes nature screws up.
>
> Nature and God are not the same thing.  All humans
> are made in God Image and Likeness.  Maybe not you.
> Okay, even you.
>
> >> God may have created man and woman but just
>> look at all the defective people that god made too.  Maybe some x and
>> y got mixed.
>
> What you are referring to is XXY (Klinefelter syndrome)
> and XYY (Jacobs syndrome).  They manifest both sexes,
> they have both sets of parts,  NOT A THIRD SEX!  Their
> health is pretty bad too.

Right, did not say a third sex, just some mix ups.

>
> XX's an XY's do not manifest to the other sex.  They
> can only mutilate their bodies (which belong to God)
> to look like the other sex, well somewhat. They
> can NEVER be the other sex.  And their hatred,
> pronouns, and name calling won't change that either.

My body belongs to me. God has not paid my food and medical costs. My
parents, then me. If God sends me a big check, OK, he can take over.

>
> There are much better ways to get attention.  Trying
> being something that merits praise from others.  Be a
> good and moral person.  Treat others well.

They want to be accepted for what they are, but your side does not allow
that. You want to tell people what they are. Are you God?
>
> Here is an idea.  Be a friend.  Tell mutilation
> candidates that it is okay to be a somewhat
> feminine man.  Girl like these guy as they
> are better listeners and have better hygiene.
> And it is okay to be a tom boy.  Guys like these
> girls a lot because they don't talk too much
> and they like sports.
>
> It is far better than telling them it is okay to commit
> such a sin/barbarity and eventually suicide out after
> the horror of what they have done sets in.

Why should you be the one to make that decision? Do you know what is
going on in their mind and body? Of course not, you just have your own
ideals.

God made this mess and you choose not to tolerate it. Not very
Christian of you.

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 by: T - Sun, 9 Apr 2023 22:57 UTC

On 4/9/23 06:48, Retirednoguilt wrote:
> On 4/9/2023 1:11 AM, T wrote:
>> On 4/8/23 07:37, Ed P wrote:
>>> On 4/8/2023 2:33 AM, T wrote:
>>>> On 4/7/23 17:02, Slevin wrote:
>>>>> God created Man and Woman
>>>>
>>>> Ya, no fooling!  XX and XY.
>>>>
>>>>> Democrats created all the other genders.
>>>>
>>>> To separate us as a people with identity
>>>> politics and to destroy the foundation of
>>>> our society which is the family.  Power
>>>> and control.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sometimes nature screws up.
>>
>> Nature and God are not the same thing.  All humans
>> are made in God Image and Likeness.  Maybe not you.
>> Okay, even you.
>>
>
> If you believe that, you must believe that your god is very fallible.
> Why worship such a monster?
Do not mistake nature for God. God gave us free will.
Love that is forces is not love. Do not think
for one tiny seconds that he is pleased with
the evil things around us. He WILL have something
to say about it when the times comes.
> Also, all these creatures in your god's image having
> strong and differing religious beliefs; yet all made
> in your god's image? Sounds like an extremely
> indecisive god to me.
Not in the slightest. Jesus was VERY CLEAR about
whatsoever you do to the least of you (abortionists
beware), you do unto me. Truly good people that
do not know God are definitely known by him.
As to those people who are good and kind but
are not believers, we cannot and must not
judge them. The ways of the Lord are inscrutable;
let us leave these good people entirely to
His judgment and to the grace of His Providence.
He alone knows how and why He has built the
argosy of humanity, and the small boat of each
one of us, such as it is.
–Saint Elder Macarius of Optina

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 by: T - Sun, 9 Apr 2023 23:02 UTC

On 4/9/23 08:39, Ed P wrote:
> On 4/9/2023 1:11 AM, T wrote:
>> On 4/8/23 07:37, Ed P wrote:
>>> On 4/8/2023 2:33 AM, T wrote:
>>>> On 4/7/23 17:02, Slevin wrote:
>>>>> God created Man and Woman
>>>>
>>>> Ya, no fooling!  XX and XY.
>>>>
>>>>> Democrats created all the other genders.
>>>>
>>>> To separate us as a people with identity
>>>> politics and to destroy the foundation of
>>>> our society which is the family.  Power
>>>> and control.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sometimes nature screws up.
>>
>> Nature and God are not the same thing.  All humans
>> are made in God Image and Likeness.  Maybe not you.
>> Okay, even you.
>>
>>  >> God may have created man and woman but just
>>> look at all the defective people that god made too.  Maybe some x and
>>> y got mixed.
>>
>> What you are referring to is XXY (Klinefelter syndrome)
>> and XYY (Jacobs syndrome).  They manifest both sexes,
>> they have both sets of parts,  NOT A THIRD SEX!  Their
>> health is pretty bad too.
>
> Right, did not say a third sex, just some mix ups.
>
>>
>> XX's an XY's do not manifest to the other sex.  They
>> can only mutilate their bodies (which belong to God)
>> to look like the other sex, well somewhat. They
>> can NEVER be the other sex.  And their hatred,
>> pronouns, and name calling won't change that either.
>
> My body belongs to me.  God has not paid my food and medical costs.  My
> parents, then me.  If God sends me a big check, OK, he can take over.
>
>
>>
>> There are much better ways to get attention.  Trying
>> being something that merits praise from others.  Be a
>> good and moral person.  Treat others well.
>
> They want to be accepted for what they are, but your side does not allow
> that.  You want to tell people what they are.  Are you God?
>>
>> Here is an idea.  Be a friend.  Tell mutilation
>> candidates that it is okay to be a somewhat
>> feminine man.  Girl like these guy as they
>> are better listeners and have better hygiene.
>> And it is okay to be a tom boy.  Guys like these
>> girls a lot because they don't talk too much
>> and they like sports.
>>
>> It is far better than telling them it is okay to commit
>> such a sin/barbarity and eventually suicide out after
>> the horror of what they have done sets in.
>
> Why should you be the one to make that decision?  Do you know what is
> going on in their mind and body?  Of course not, you just have your own
> ideals.
>
> God made this mess and you choose not to tolerate it.  Not very
> Christian of you.
>
Your heart much really be hurting. This is not
the appropriate place to talk about it. Do you
have a Christian friend or minister you can open
up to? Jesus can and will heal you if you allow
him to.

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 by: Ed P - Sun, 9 Apr 2023 23:18 UTC

On 4/9/2023 7:02 PM, T wrote:
> On 4/9/23 08:39, Ed P wrote:

>> Why should you be the one to make that decision?  Do you know what is
>> going on in their mind and body?  Of course not, you just have your
>> own ideals.
>>
>> God made this mess and you choose not to tolerate it.  Not very
>> Christian of you.
>>
>
> Your heart much really be hurting.  This is not
> the appropriate place to talk about it.  Do you
> have a Christian friend or minister you can open
> up to?  Jesus can and will heal you if you allow
> him to.

After we moved here I met the local priest. He does not care much about
people from my experience. No, my heart is not hurting, it is quite happy.

I accept people for what they are, I don't try to make them conform to
some value decided by a Christian or a politician. Individuals have no
say in how they were born, yet some want them to be something they are
not. Looks like God's image is rather loose. Maybe he effed up some
genetics.

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 by: T - Sun, 9 Apr 2023 23:38 UTC

On 4/9/23 16:18, Ed P wrote:
> On 4/9/2023 7:02 PM, T wrote:
>> On 4/9/23 08:39, Ed P wrote:
>
>>> Why should you be the one to make that decision?  Do you know what is
>>> going on in their mind and body?  Of course not, you just have your
>>> own ideals.
>>>
>>> God made this mess and you choose not to tolerate it.  Not very
>>> Christian of you.
>>>
>>
>> Your heart much really be hurting.  This is not
>> the appropriate place to talk about it.  Do you
>> have a Christian friend or minister you can open
>> up to?  Jesus can and will heal you if you allow
>> him to.
>
>
> After we moved here I met the local priest.  He does not care much about
> people from my experience.
I have had the experience too. I was raised Roman Catholic.
I walked out of the church as I make a bad secular humanist and a
terrible communist. I now follow the teaching of the
Ancient Church (now known as the Orthodox church).
Some folks seem to think the two churches are similar. They
are only superficially, When y get into the nuts and bolks they are
really, really different. The Ancient Church follow
a very gentl loving tradition handed down by Jesus and the apostles.
> I accept people for what they are, I don't try to make them conform to
> some value decided by a Christian or a politician.
Since when? Becoming a Christian is a choice not a
compulsion. It must be freely entered into.
If you are referring to them criticizing immoral behavior,
That is something you have to deal with yourself. Leftist
criticize others' behavior a bazillions tomes more than do
Christians.
> Individuals have no
> say in how they were born, yet some want them to be something they are
> not.  Looks like God's image is rather loose.  Maybe he effed up some
> genetics.
You are missing what God's Image and Likeness means.
It is not our physical form. It is his love and
goodness. It is referring to our souls, not our bodies.
Jesus also make it very clear that whatsoever you do
unto the LEAST of you, you did unto him (abortionists beware).
So be DAMNED careful how you treat those genetic goof ups
and any other helpless human for that manner.

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 by: Ed P - Sun, 9 Apr 2023 23:59 UTC

On 4/9/2023 7:38 PM, T wrote:

>
>> Individuals have no say in how they were born, yet some want them to
>> be something they are not.  Looks like God's image is rather loose.
>> Maybe he effed up some genetics.
>
> You are missing what God's Image and Likeness means.
> It is not our physical form.  It is his love and
> goodness.  It is referring to our souls, not our bodies.

But yet many Christians do not love the transgender, the gays, etc.
Where is the love?

>
> Jesus also make it very clear that whatsoever you do
> unto the LEAST of you, you did unto him (abortionists beware).
>
> So be DAMNED careful how you treat those genetic goof ups
> and any other helpless human for that manner.
>

Right, love them, don't shut them out. Can I count on you to love the
transgendered? It would be very Christian of you.

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 by: Dean Hoffman - Mon, 10 Apr 2023 00:33 UTC

On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 6:59:33 PM UTC-5, Ed P wrote:
> On 4/9/2023 7:38 PM, T wrote:
>
> >
> >> Individuals have no say in how they were born, yet some want them to
> >> be something they are not. Looks like God's image is rather loose.
> >> Maybe he effed up some genetics.
> >
> > You are missing what God's Image and Likeness means.
> > It is not our physical form. It is his love and
> > goodness. It is referring to our souls, not our bodies.
> But yet many Christians do not love the transgender, the gays, etc. s
> Where is the love?
> >
> > Jesus also make it very clear that whatsoever you do
> > unto the LEAST of you, you did unto him (abortionists beware).
> >
> > So be DAMNED careful how you treat those genetic goof ups
> > and any other helpless human for that manner.
> >
> Right, love them, don't shut them out. Can I count on you to love the he
> transgendered? It would be very Christian of you.

This gets into delicate situation. Homosexual behavior is clearly a sin. The gays, etc.
should do their best to avoid situations that would cause them to actively sin. it's sin for unmarried
heterosexuals to have sex. Abstinence is the word. Prayer also, of course. That brings up the
Serenity Prayer.
What should a Christian do? Confront the sinner in public? I'd say no. Maybe privately point it out
to the individual. Maybe just give the individual a Bible and let him sort it out for himself. Maybe point him to
sites like <https://www.gotquestions.org/>
There's the old phrase "hate the sin, love the sinner".

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 by: Ed P - Mon, 10 Apr 2023 01:28 UTC

On 4/9/2023 8:33 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 6:59:33 PM UTC-5, Ed P wrote:
>> On 4/9/2023 7:38 PM, T wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Individuals have no say in how they were born, yet some want them to
>>>> be something they are not. Looks like God's image is rather loose.
>>>> Maybe he effed up some genetics.
>>>
>>> You are missing what God's Image and Likeness means.
>>> It is not our physical form. It is his love and
>>> goodness. It is referring to our souls, not our bodies.
>> But yet many Christians do not love the transgender, the gays, etc. s
>> Where is the love?
>>>
>>> Jesus also make it very clear that whatsoever you do
>>> unto the LEAST of you, you did unto him (abortionists beware).
>>>
>>> So be DAMNED careful how you treat those genetic goof ups
>>> and any other helpless human for that manner.
>>>
>> Right, love them, don't shut them out. Can I count on you to love the he
>> transgendered? It would be very Christian of you.
>
> This gets into delicate situation. Homosexual behavior is clearly a sin. The gays, etc.
> should do their best to avoid situations that would cause them to actively sin. it's sin for unmarried
> heterosexuals to have sex. Abstinence is the word. Prayer also, of course. That brings up the
> Serenity Prayer.
> What should a Christian do? Confront the sinner in public? I'd say no. Maybe privately point it out
> to the individual. Maybe just give the individual a Bible and let him sort it out for himself. Maybe point him to
> sites like <https://www.gotquestions.org/>
> There's the old phrase "hate the sin, love the sinner".

So why did God make them if it is a sin? Why did Jesus have 12 men
following him and no women?

Seems like most of that is man made ideas. Not nature, not following
the way some humans were formed.

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 by: AK - Mon, 10 Apr 2023 01:52 UTC

On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:37:30 AM UTC-5, Ed P wrote:
> On 4/8/2023 2:33 AM, T wrote:
> > On 4/7/23 17:02, Slevin wrote:
> >> God created Man and Woman
> >
> > Ya, no fooling! XX and XY.
> >
> >> Democrats created all the other genders.
> >
> > To separate us as a people with identity
> > politics and to destroy the foundation of
> > our society which is the family. Power
> > and control.
> >
> Sometimes nature screws up. God may have created man and woman but just
> look at all the defective people that god made too. Maybe some x and y
> got mixed.

Is it possible that God made some defective people on purpose?

Andy

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 by: AK - Mon, 10 Apr 2023 01:56 UTC

On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 6:59:33 PM UTC-5, Ed P wrote:
> On 4/9/2023 7:38 PM, T wrote:
>
> >
> >> Individuals have no say in how they were born, yet some want them to
> >> be something they are not. Looks like God's image is rather loose.
> >> Maybe he effed up some genetics.
> >
> > You are missing what God's Image and Likeness means.
> > It is not our physical form. It is his love and
> > goodness. It is referring to our souls, not our bodies.
> But yet many Christians do not love the transgender, the gays, etc.
> Where is the love?
> >
> > Jesus also make it very clear that whatsoever you do
> > unto the LEAST of you, you did unto him (abortionists beware).
> >
> > So be DAMNED careful how you treat those genetic goof ups
> > and any other helpless human for that manner.
> >
> Right, love them, don't shut them out. Can I count on you to love the
> transgendered? It would be very Christian of you.

I suggest you do some bible reading about how God feels about homosexuality..

Genesis 19
New International Version
Sodom and Gomorrah Destroyed

19 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. 2 “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.”

“No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.”

3 But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate. 4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. 8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”

9 “Get out of our way,” they replied. “This fellow came here as a foreigner, and now he wants to play the judge! We’ll treat you worse than them.” They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.

10 But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back into the house and shut the door. 11 Then they struck the men who were at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they could not find the door.

12 The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, 13 because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the Lord against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it.”

14 So Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who were pledged to marry[a] his daughters. He said, “Hurry and get out of this place, because the Lord is about to destroy the city!” But his sons-in-law thought he was joking.

15 With the coming of dawn, the angels urged Lot, saying, “Hurry! Take your wife and your two daughters who are here, or you will be swept away when the city is punished.”

16 When he hesitated, the men grasped his hand and the hands of his wife and of his two daughters and led them safely out of the city, for the Lord was merciful to them. 17 As soon as they had brought them out, one of them said, “Flee for your lives! Don’t look back, and don’t stop anywhere in the plain! Flee to the mountains or you will be swept away!”

18 But Lot said to them, “No, my lords,[b] please! 19 Your[c] servant has found favor in your[d] eyes, and you[e] have shown great kindness to me in sparing my life. But I can’t flee to the mountains; this disaster will overtake me, and I’ll die. 20 Look, here is a town near enough to run to, and it is small. Let me flee to it—it is very small, isn’t it? Then my life will be spared.”

21 He said to him, “Very well, I will grant this request too; I will not overthrow the town you speak of. 22 But flee there quickly, because I cannot do anything until you reach it.” (That is why the town was called Zoar.[f])

23 By the time Lot reached Zoar, the sun had risen over the land. 24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land. 26 But Lot’s wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.

27 Early the next morning Abraham got up and returned to the place where he had stood before the Lord. 28 He looked down toward Sodom and Gomorrah, toward all the land of the plain, and he saw dense smoke rising from the land, like smoke from a furnace.

29 So when God destroyed the cities of the plain, he remembered Abraham, and he brought Lot out of the catastrophe that overthrew the cities where Lot had lived.
Lot and His Daughters

30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”

33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab[g]; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi[h]; he is the father of the Ammonites[i] of today.

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 by: Ed P - Mon, 10 Apr 2023 02:12 UTC

On 4/9/2023 9:52 PM, AK wrote:
> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:37:30 AM UTC-5, Ed P wrote:
>> On 4/8/2023 2:33 AM, T wrote:
>>> On 4/7/23 17:02, Slevin wrote:
>>>> God created Man and Woman
>>>
>>> Ya, no fooling! XX and XY.
>>>
>>>> Democrats created all the other genders.
>>>
>>> To separate us as a people with identity
>>> politics and to destroy the foundation of
>>> our society which is the family. Power
>>> and control.
>>>
>> Sometimes nature screws up. God may have created man and woman but just
>> look at all the defective people that god made too. Maybe some x and y
>> got mixed.
>
> Is it possible that God made some defective people on purpose?
>
> Andy

Perhaps. Speculate away, we'll never know.

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 by: Bob F - Mon, 10 Apr 2023 03:57 UTC

On 4/9/2023 6:52 PM, AK wrote:
> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:37:30 AM UTC-5, Ed P wrote:
>> On 4/8/2023 2:33 AM, T wrote:
>>> On 4/7/23 17:02, Slevin wrote:
>>>> God created Man and Woman
>>>
>>> Ya, no fooling! XX and XY.
>>>
>>>> Democrats created all the other genders.
>>>
>>> To separate us as a people with identity
>>> politics and to destroy the foundation of
>>> our society which is the family. Power
>>> and control.
>>>
>> Sometimes nature screws up. God may have created man and woman but just
>> look at all the defective people that god made too. Maybe some x and y
>> got mixed.
>
> Is it possible that God made some defective people on purpose?
>

As a test to decide on where conservatives should really spend eternity.

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 by: rbowman - Mon, 10 Apr 2023 05:21 UTC

On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 18:56:01 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote:

> I suggest you do some bible reading about how God feels about
> homosexuality.

He seems to be okay with incest though.


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