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* test - using new computer, a little messed upJudith Latham
`* test - using new computer, a little messed upThomas Joseph
 `* test - using new computer, a little messed upOllieNorthie@aol.com
  `* test - using new computer, a little messed upThomas Joseph
   `* test - using new computer, a little messed upJudith Latham
    +* test - using new computer, a little messed upOllieNorthie@aol.com
    |`* test - using new computer, a little messed upThomas Joseph
    | `* test - using new computer, a little messed upJudith Latham
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 by: Judith Latham - Tue, 21 Sep 2021 22:10 UTC

On Monday, March 9, 2020 at 4:01:27 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com
wrote:
> test

Your computer is fine. What's fucked up is you using us for one of
your demented social experiments. Be open, be honest, what the fuck is
going on?

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 by: Thomas Joseph - Wed, 22 Sep 2021 03:34 UTC

Judith Latham wrote:
jazee...@gmail.com wrote:

> test

> Your computer is fine. What's fucked up is you using us for one of
> your demented social experiments. Be open, be honest, what the fuck is
> going on?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, there she goes again resorting to 'us' vs 'them' with me being 'them' as always. First of all Latham, that post you're responding to came through in March of 2020 and you weren't here then. You may have heard of our great group and had secret desires to check us out, but you didn't know about us first hand. You are a newbie. A rookie. Unproven so far.. The jury is still out on you. But yes, you are a member of our beloved group. However you were not a member when I sent in the test post, so your word on the matter means nothing. Just another attempt to try to worm your way into our secret society. By the way, speaking of tests, this post is a test unto itself. I am testing you. My tests are hard to pass. You never know what I'm really up to. You think you've got me figured out but you don't. Even Ollie fails my tests at times. I have failed some of his. I would love to fail some of yours as well. I love being fooled, showed up, taught a much needed lesson now and then.

Testing, hut two three four

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 by: OllieNorthie@aol.com - Wed, 22 Sep 2021 03:53 UTC

On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 11:34:05 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> Judith Latham wrote:
> jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > test
>
> > Your computer is fine. What's fucked up is you using us for one of
> > your demented social experiments. Be open, be honest, what the fuck is
> > going on?
> Whoa, whoa, whoa, there she goes again resorting to 'us' vs 'them' with me being 'them' as always. First of all Latham, that post you're responding to came through in March of 2020 and you weren't here then. You may have heard of our great group and had secret desires to check us out, but you didn't know about us first hand. You are a newbie. A rookie. Unproven so far. The jury is still out on you. But yes, you are a member of our beloved group.. However you were not a member when I sent in the test post, so your word on the matter means nothing. Just another attempt to try to worm your way into our secret society. By the way, speaking of tests, this post is a test unto itself. I am testing you. My tests are hard to pass. You never know what I'm really up to. You think you've got me figured out but you don't. Even Ollie fails my tests at times. I have failed some of his. I would love to fail some of yours as well. I love being fooled, showed up, taught a much needed lesson now and then.
>
> Testing, hut two three four

I am cramming for the final exam. The big one. Accounts for 90% of the grade. GPA here I come.

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 by: Thomas Joseph - Wed, 22 Sep 2021 22:58 UTC

> I am cramming for the final exam. The big one. Accounts for 90% of the grade. GPA here I come.

You have passed all my tests. So far. Am I saying this because it's true or is it just another test? I'm sure you know. You've got me figured out. But don't feel too big headed about it because I'm an easy guy to figure out because I am the truth. Do you hear me? The fucking truth.

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 by: Judith Latham - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 03:00 UTC

On 9/22/2021 6:58 PM, Thomas Joseph wrote:
>
>> I am cramming for the final exam. The big one. Accounts for 90% of the grade. GPA here I come.
>
> You have passed all my tests. So far. Am I saying this because it's true or is it just another test? I'm sure you know. You've got me figured out. But don't feel too big headed about it because I'm an easy guy to figure out because I am the truth. Do you hear me? The fucking truth.
>

I've never trusted tests. To me they're an attempt at mind control. What
more to get you to concentrate on something than to give you a test on
it? Secret telepathic messages could be transmitted at this time. Was
this your intention or was it just an actual innocent test?

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 by: OllieNorthie@aol.com - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 13:20 UTC

On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 11:00:29 PM UTC-4, Judith Latham wrote:
> On 9/22/2021 6:58 PM, Thomas Joseph wrote:
> >
> >> I am cramming for the final exam. The big one. Accounts for 90% of the grade. GPA here I come.
> >
> > You have passed all my tests. So far. Am I saying this because it's true or is it just another test? I'm sure you know. You've got me figured out. But don't feel too big headed about it because I'm an easy guy to figure out because I am the truth. Do you hear me? The fucking truth.
> >
> I've never trusted tests. To me they're an attempt at mind control. What
> more to get you to concentrate on something than to give you a test on
> it? Secret telepathic messages could be transmitted at this time. Was
> this your intention or was it just an actual innocent test?

People like to complain about education and tests yet pay for it.

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> I've never trusted tests. To me they're an attempt at mind control. What
> more to get you to concentrate on something than to give you a test on
> it? Secret telepathic messages could be transmitted at this time. Was
> this your intention or was it just an actual innocent test?

When I test people they do not know they are being tested. That is the secret to a good test. Otherwise they can and will be cheated. The secret to a good test is secret testing.

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> People like to complain about education and tests yet pay for it.

The education industry makes me sick. I went to the doctor and the therapist this week. I get along with both but don't think they know much of anything. Especially the doctor. Makes me think of an anatomy chart on the wall and he can name every part of it. Same with a guy working as an auto mechanic. He knows all the parts of the engine just like the doctor can name all the parts of the body - but he doesn't know what to do with them. Only a small percent of those in any field of endeavor are good at what they do, end of fucking story - and as yet there is no test good enough to find out who they're going to be. Although with my genius intuition I could probably come close.

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 by: Judith Latham - Sat, 25 Sep 2021 03:26 UTC

On 9/24/2021 1:21 AM, Thomas Joseph wrote:
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>> People like to complain about education and tests yet pay for it.
>
> The education industry makes me sick. I went to the doctor and the therapist this week. I get along with both but don't think they know much of anything. Especially the doctor. Makes me think of an anatomy chart on the wall and he can name every part of it. Same with a guy working as an auto mechanic. He knows all the parts of the engine just like the doctor can name all the parts of the body - but he doesn't know what to do with them. Only a small percent of those in any field of endeavor are good at what they do, end of fucking story - and as yet there is no test good enough to find out who they're going to be. Although with my genius intuition I could probably come close.
>

It's why they 'practice' medicine. They admit that they don't really
know what they're doing. It's all guess work and if you guess right, do
it again and again until it doesn't work no more. Remember, you are not
a patient, you are a customer. The more customers, the more money. Keep
the people sick, prolong the agony of the dying. Like a lot of jobs, you
got to bust your ass for a few years but then you lay back. I thought
about being a doctor but decided instead to pursue a ballet career;
which didn't work out too well.

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 by: Thomas Joseph - Sat, 25 Sep 2021 04:18 UTC

> It's why they 'practice' medicine. They admit that they don't really
> know what they're doing. It's all guess work and if you guess right, do
> it again and again until it doesn't work no more. Remember, you are not
> a patient, you are a customer. The more customers, the more money. Keep
> the people sick, prolong the agony of the dying. Like a lot of jobs, you
> got to bust your ass for a few years but then you lay back. I thought
> about being a doctor but decided instead to pursue a ballet career;
> which didn't work out too well.

Why didn't work out? Toting too much weigh, is that it? Well, today we have "America's Got Talent" and other shows where with minimal practice you might be able to do some nifty ballet moves for a 485 pounder. People would love it.

Maybe some doctors admit they don't know what they're doing, but most I've met are pretty arrogant. Of course it's a business. What isn't? I don't care how much money they make. I do not resent people for having more money that I do. I wouldn't want their jobs either. But I see doctors pretty much the same way I see cops. Some may start out innocently enough. Stupid innocent. But in time they've got to know that a lot of what they do is immoral. So to me if they keep doing it they are scum. Doctors are also a lot like cops with the fraternal mentality, almost criminal, where anyone in their field who doesn't play by the book is considered a snitch or turncoat. I told you before and I'm telling you again, it doesn't matter what the profession is: a certain very large percentage of people in all fields of endeavor are not good at what they do and don't care how they do it, and a certain very small percentage are good at what they do and proud of how they do it. This applies to all fields. I have told this to doctors. More than once I have told them, "If you're not a good detective you can't be a good doctor." I'm talking about the majority of these fuckers who learn just enough in school to pass tests to get a job. Just because they have a diploma on the wall doesn't mean they know anything. I believe if a person has a genuine interest in the human anatomy or in doctoring they could learn in a few months what takes 8 years for the average idiot. I also believe the reason it takes 8 years is because it takes money to go to school for 8 years. It's another one of those all in the family things. Lots of stupid people in college. I know, I have picked up thousands. Wake Forest is a small school specializing mostly in law and medicine. I used to take them out to the bars on weekends. I liked some of them. Many would ask me to take them to where they could get some crack cocaine. I'd take them. Some of these same students were already working as interns at the prosecutor's office downtown - ready at the drop of a hat to throw someone behind bars for using the same shit they paid me to take them to. Oh these people know they're getting into shitty professions. Then again, maybe they don't.. They're young. But it's like with cops handing out tickets to people who really don't deserve them - speed traps and other excessive bullshit: If they don't see in a short time that what they're doing is immoral they are either very stupid or very treacherous. I know there are good doctors out there. Good people in all fields. But they are rare. And many don't know nearly as much as most people think they do. Like many they are just holding onto jobs, doing their best not to rock the boat. If you can make it through life without needing a professional you may consider yourself a success. Sorry for the length. Wait, am I really sorry or am I just saying that to make you think I'm a nice guy? I don't know. I swear I don't know. That is my excuse.

"I don't know." The 3 most intelligent words of all time. But then I don't really know that either. Please stop defending the medical profession just because you almost joined them at some point in your life.

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On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 12:18:38 AM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > It's why they 'practice' medicine. They admit that they don't really
> > know what they're doing. It's all guess work and if you guess right, do
> > it again and again until it doesn't work no more. Remember, you are not
> > a patient, you are a customer. The more customers, the more money. Keep
> > the people sick, prolong the agony of the dying. Like a lot of jobs, you
> > got to bust your ass for a few years but then you lay back. I thought
> > about being a doctor but decided instead to pursue a ballet career;
> > which didn't work out too well.
> Why didn't work out? Toting too much weigh, is that it? Well, today we have "America's Got Talent" and other shows where with minimal practice you might be able to do some nifty ballet moves for a 485 pounder. People would love it.
>
> Maybe some doctors admit they don't know what they're doing, but most I've met are pretty arrogant. Of course it's a business. What isn't? I don't care how much money they make. I do not resent people for having more money that I do. I wouldn't want their jobs either. But I see doctors pretty much the same way I see cops. Some may start out innocently enough. Stupid innocent. But in time they've got to know that a lot of what they do is immoral.. So to me if they keep doing it they are scum. Doctors are also a lot like cops with the fraternal mentality, almost criminal, where anyone in their field who doesn't play by the book is considered a snitch or turncoat. I told you before and I'm telling you again, it doesn't matter what the profession is: a certain very large percentage of people in all fields of endeavor are not good at what they do and don't care how they do it, and a certain very small percentage are good at what they do and proud of how they do it. This applies to all fields. I have told this to doctors. More than once I have told them, "If you're not a good detective you can't be a good doctor." I'm talking about the majority of these fuckers who learn just enough in school to pass tests to get a job. Just because they have a diploma on the wall doesn't mean they know anything. I believe if a person has a genuine interest in the human anatomy or in doctoring they could learn in a few months what takes 8 years for the average idiot. I also believe the reason it takes 8 years is because it takes money to go to school for 8 years. It's another one of those all in the family things. Lots of stupid people in college. I know, I have picked up thousands. Wake Forest is a small school specializing mostly in law and medicine. I used to take them out to the bars on weekends. I liked some of them. Many would ask me to take them to where they could get some crack cocaine. I'd take them. Some of these same students were already working as interns at the prosecutor's office downtown - ready at the drop of a hat to throw someone behind bars for using the same shit they paid me to take them to. Oh these people know they're getting into shitty professions. Then again, maybe they don't. They're young. But it's like with cops handing out tickets to people who really don't deserve them - speed traps and other excessive bullshit: If they don't see in a short time that what they're doing is immoral they are either very stupid or very treacherous. I know there are good doctors out there. Good people in all fields. But they are rare. And many don't know nearly as much as most people think they do. Like many they are just holding onto jobs, doing their best not to rock the boat. If you can make it through life without needing a professional you may consider yourself a success. Sorry for the length. Wait, am I really sorry or am I just saying that to make you think I'm a nice guy? I don't know. I swear I don't know. That is my excuse.
>
> "I don't know." The 3 most intelligent words of all time. But then I don't really know that either. Please stop defending the medical profession just because you almost joined them at some point in your life.

Got to do something. I don't believe in careers except when it comes to entertainment or art. Well not art. Art is a religion. All other things we do for money is a job. Even an actor with a career when they actually have work it is a job.

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> Got to do something. I don't believe in careers except when it comes to entertainment or art. Well not art. Art is a religion. All other things we do for money is a job. Even an actor with a career when they actually have work it is a job.

I understand. Believe me I know, everyone has to work. And take orders. Even 'The President." Maybe especially the President. As an adult of sorts I have been aware for some time that everyone works. Still, for people to work at something only to discover it's a sham, but they keep doing it anyway - that is bad enough. But to then be declared a hero on top of it, sorry, but it makes me sick.

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On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 6:39:25 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Got to do something. I don't believe in careers except when it comes to entertainment or art. Well not art. Art is a religion. All other things we do for money is a job. Even an actor with a career when they actually have work it is a job.
> I understand. Believe me I know, everyone has to work. And take orders. Even 'The President." Maybe especially the President. As an adult of sorts I have been aware for some time that everyone works. Still, for people to work at something only to discover it's a sham, but they keep doing it anyway - that is bad enough. But to then be declared a hero on top of it, sorry, but it makes me sick.

If heroes are people who get you out of shit than include plumbers.

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 by: Thomas Joseph - Tue, 28 Sep 2021 19:34 UTC

> If heroes are people who get you out of shit than include plumbers.

They and others have long been included in my hero portfolio. Sorry, I'm going to jump off the hero bandwagon for just a second to say what is on my mind before I forget it. I was thinking about Marlon Brando being interviewed by Tom Snyder, and Snyder mentioned Marlon's weight which was over 300 pounds. Marlon was very blasé and accepting about it. "I like eat cream", he said with a shrug. I was never an admirer of Brando although I did appreciate his approach toward end of life we must all endure. On the negative side and in favor of Snyder there was a point where Brando turned to the chain smoking Snyder and moaned snobbishly, "Must you smoke those horrible things?", and Snyder hesitated a moment not knowing what to say before replying, "Yes, I must." I was never a big watcher of the show but remember that one, only for those two exchanges. But I was thinking about Brando's comment about liking ice cream, how it was a way of saying look, we're all going to die, so if you like ice-cream, have a go at it. I was thinking about myself and how, while I appreciate mindset and am slowly becoming more accepting of the big windup, I still at the same time want with disgusting desperation to continue living forever, afraid that eating too much ice-cream might but an end to my eternity bid. I want to give in to withering away. I really do. But I don't have to guts to do it on my own. I need some kind of genuine terminal illness to give me a boost. I was thinking about that and it made me think of Brando and the ice-cream.

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On 9/28/2021 3:34 PM, Thomas Joseph wrote:
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>> If heroes are people who get you out of shit than include plumbers.
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> They and others have long been included in my hero portfolio. Sorry, I'm going to jump off the hero bandwagon for just a second to say what is on my mind before I forget it. I was thinking about Marlon Brando being interviewed by Tom Snyder, and Snyder mentioned Marlon's weight which was over 300 pounds. Marlon was very blasé and accepting about it. "I like eat cream", he said with a shrug. I was never an admirer of Brando although I did appreciate his approach toward end of life we must all endure. On the negative side and in favor of Snyder there was a point where Brando turned to the chain smoking Snyder and moaned snobbishly, "Must you smoke those horrible things?", and Snyder hesitated a moment not knowing what to say before replying, "Yes, I must." I was never a big watcher of the show but remember that one, only for those two exchanges. But I was thinking about Brando's comment about liking ice cream, how it was a way of saying look, we're all going to die, so if you like ice-cream, have a go at it. I was thinking about myself and how, while I appreciate mindset and am slowly becoming more accepting of the big windup, I still at the same time want with disgusting desperation to continue living forever, afraid that eating too much ice-cream might but an end to my eternity bid. I want to give in to withering away. I really do. But I don't have to guts to do it on my own. I need some kind of genuine terminal illness to give me a boost. I was thinking about that and it made me think of Brando and the ice-cream.
>

Brando was a little skinny punk when he came up against me one year at
the County Fair 'Ice Cream Eating Contest'. He thinks he's doing good
wolfing down gallons at a clip. Then he met Latham, 'the Queen of Eats'.
I had then wheel out a specially made banana split in a pig's troth. It
was huge and I lapped up every last sprinkle. Marlon knew he was beat;
he retired from acting shortly there-after

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 by: Thomas Joseph - Wed, 29 Sep 2021 22:01 UTC

> Brando was a little skinny punk when he came up against me one year at 
> the County Fair 'Ice Cream Eating Contest'. He thinks he's doing good 
> wolfing down gallons at a clip. Then he met Latham, 'the Queen of Eats'. 
> I had then wheel out a specially made banana split in a pig's troth. It 
> was huge and I lapped up every last sprinkle. Marlon knew he was beat; 
> he retired from acting shortly there-after

Even before reading your post I wrote a poem about Marlon's love for ice cream.

Ice Cream

He loves to eat 
Isn't out to compete
Just goes for the taste
Leaving little to waste
But never so far 
It turns to a chore
At times he'd overdo it
Crying, "More, more, more"
But he was not a hog - not the slightest bit
When it came to overeating he knew when to quit
He'd eat until full then gently intone 
"I'm done with my ice cream - now leave me alone."


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