On 11/23/2021 6:46 PM, songbird wrote:
> Wilson wrote:
> ...
>> Well, this problem has persisted. Almost no lids without buying jars since
>> summer canning season. The first I found, which came with rings I didn't
>> need, were produced by 'Pur' from China. Very flimsy, bent easily when
>> removed after sealing and had very little sealing 'rubber.' I don't use the
>> lids over for canning, but with dried items, I do sometimes and use my
>> FoodSaver to vacuum seal dry goods. But, even slightly bent won't work.
>>
>> Not into Amazon or hoarding, but I will being buying a case of Ball or Kerr
>> if ever I get a chance again. ;)
>
> they've been in supply off and on all year for us. right
> now i can probably come up with some if needed but we do
> have a supply on hand so no need for us to get more.
>
> rumor has it that they will be back more in supply starting
> in the spring of 2022. we'll see...
>
> one thing that people do not see recommended but that many
> people do is that they will reuse lids. we do that here too
> as sometimes a lid has hardly any visible change to it other
> than the sealant being a bit disformed, but if you use a
> clean jar with a good rim that should seal up again. i've
> done this for high acid items and they've sealed a second
> time with no failures at all (several hundred quarts).
>
> of course this is at your own risk and potentially some
> may fail, but if you stick to higher acid items i think you'll
> be fairly safe and then if something doesn't seal you can put
> it in the fridge and use it up right away or reprocess with
> another lid and try again. to me that's not likely to happen,
> we'll just use it up.
>
> the other thing to consider is how expensive the items are
> that you're canning. if they're bulk and relatively low
> value then you can risk a used lid if you must and don't
> have any other options and that ways you can use the new
> lids you might have for the higher value items.
>
> we also save good condition used lids for use for things
> we put in the freezer (i always prefer things frozen in
> glass over plastic - but there are things you must do
> right when using glass in the freezer and sometimes even
> if you do it right you still might crack a jar here or
> there).
>
> so, erm, where was i? :) rambly mood this evening. :)
> good luck!
>
>
> songbird
>

Thanks. We do a lot of re-purposing ourselves. Just like fresh new ones when
we pressure cook or give gifts.

On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-5, Wilson wrote:
> On 11/23/2021 6:46 PM, songbird wrote:
> > Wilson wrote:
> > ...
> >> Well, this problem has persisted. Almost no lids without buying jars since
> >> summer canning season. The first I found, which came with rings I didn't
> >> need, were produced by 'Pur' from China. Very flimsy, bent easily when
> >> removed after sealing and had very little sealing 'rubber.' I don't use the
> >> lids over for canning, but with dried items, I do sometimes and use my
> >> FoodSaver to vacuum seal dry goods. But, even slightly bent won't work.
> >>
> >> Not into Amazon or hoarding, but I will being buying a case of Ball or Kerr
> >> if ever I get a chance again. ;)
> >
> > they've been in supply off and on all year for us. right
> > now i can probably come up with some if needed but we do
> > have a supply on hand so no need for us to get more.
> >
> > rumor has it that they will be back more in supply starting
> > in the spring of 2022. we'll see...
> >
> > one thing that people do not see recommended but that many
> > people do is that they will reuse lids. we do that here too
> > as sometimes a lid has hardly any visible change to it other
> > than the sealant being a bit disformed, but if you use a
> > clean jar with a good rim that should seal up again. i've
> > done this for high acid items and they've sealed a second
> > time with no failures at all (several hundred quarts).
> >
> > of course this is at your own risk and potentially some
> > may fail, but if you stick to higher acid items i think you'll
> > be fairly safe and then if something doesn't seal you can put
> > it in the fridge and use it up right away or reprocess with
> > another lid and try again. to me that's not likely to happen,
> > we'll just use it up.
> >
> > the other thing to consider is how expensive the items are
> > that you're canning. if they're bulk and relatively low
> > value then you can risk a used lid if you must and don't
> > have any other options and that ways you can use the new
> > lids you might have for the higher value items.
> >
> > we also save good condition used lids for use for things
> > we put in the freezer (i always prefer things frozen in
> > glass over plastic - but there are things you must do
> > right when using glass in the freezer and sometimes even
> > if you do it right you still might crack a jar here or
> > there).
> >
> > so, erm, where was i? :) rambly mood this evening. :)
> > good luck!
> >
> >
> > songbird
> >
>
> Thanks. We do a lot of re-purposing ourselves. Just like fresh new ones when
> we pressure cook or give gifts.

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Paul