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On Topic: stripped Moen show cartridge screw

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 by: T - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 03:57 UTC

Hi All,

I had one of those oh poop moments.

I need to change out the shield behind my
shower valve.

The valve is a Moen 1225
https://www.moen.com/products/Moen/Moen_Cartridge/1225

When I went to remove the screw inside the knob,
the blankidy blank screw stripped out.

It is the process show on this video between
1:18 to 1:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKral2U5mcw

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!

What next?

-T

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 by: T - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 05:00 UTC

On 10/2/22 20:57, T wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I had one of those oh poop moments.
>
> I need to change out the shield behind my
> shower valve.
>
> The valve is a Moen 1225
>     https://www.moen.com/products/Moen/Moen_Cartridge/1225
>
> When I went to remove the screw inside the knob,
> the blankidy blank screw stripped out.
>
> It is the process show on this video between
>       1:18 to 1:28
>    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKral2U5mcw
>
> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!
>
> What next?
>
> -T
>
My big concern was the screw threads must me
extremely calcified and frozen in the cartridge.
Any easy out solution would still have a frozen
screw to contend with.
I can't use WD 40 due to allergies to it in
the family. I have found that mineral oil, given
a day to soak in, works as well as WD40.
But how to get past the knob and screw head to
apply it?

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Subject: Re: On Topic: stripped Moen show cartridge screw
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 by: T - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 05:14 UTC

On 10/2/22 22:00, T wrote:
> On 10/2/22 20:57, T wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I had one of those oh poop moments.
>>
>> I need to change out the shield behind my
>> shower valve.
>>
>> The valve is a Moen 1225
>>      https://www.moen.com/products/Moen/Moen_Cartridge/1225
>>
>> When I went to remove the screw inside the knob,
>> the blankidy blank screw stripped out.
>>
>> It is the process show on this video between
>>        1:18 to 1:28
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKral2U5mcw
>>
>> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!
>>
>> What next?
>>
>> -T
>>
>
> My big concern was the screw threads must me
> extremely calcified and frozen in the cartridge.
> Any easy out solution would still have a frozen
> screw to contend with.
>
> I can't use WD 40 due to allergies to it in
> the family.  I have found that mineral oil, given
> a day to soak in, works as well as WD40.
>
> But how to get past the knob and screw head to
> apply it?

I am thinking I have to
1) shut the water off to the house
2) cut the knob off
3) change the cartridge with the frozen screw
in it. The cartridge is over 30 years old, so
it is probably time anyway.

Any suggestions on how to cut the knob off?

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 by: T - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 05:22 UTC

On 10/2/22 22:14, T wrote:
> On 10/2/22 22:00, T wrote:
>> On 10/2/22 20:57, T wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I had one of those oh poop moments.
>>>
>>> I need to change out the shield behind my
>>> shower valve.
>>>
>>> The valve is a Moen 1225
>>>      https://www.moen.com/products/Moen/Moen_Cartridge/1225
>>>
>>> When I went to remove the screw inside the knob,
>>> the blankidy blank screw stripped out.
>>>
>>> It is the process show on this video between
>>>        1:18 to 1:28
>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKral2U5mcw
>>>
>>> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!
>>>
>>> What next?
>>>
>>> -T
>>>
>>
>> My big concern was the screw threads must me
>> extremely calcified and frozen in the cartridge.
>> Any easy out solution would still have a frozen
>> screw to contend with.
>>
>> I can't use WD 40 due to allergies to it in
>> the family.  I have found that mineral oil, given
>> a day to soak in, works as well as WD40.
>>
>> But how to get past the knob and screw head to
>> apply it?
>
>
> I am thinking I have to
>
> 1) shut the water off to the house
>
> 2) cut the knob off
>
> 3) change the cartridge with the frozen screw
> in it.  The cartridge is over 30 years old, so
> it is probably time anyway.
>
>
> Any suggestions on how to cut the knob off?
>
Maybe put a grinder on my drill and grind the
screw head off?

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 by: hub...@ccanoemail.com - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:55 UTC

On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 20:57:28 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Hi All,
>I had one of those oh poop moments.
>I need to change out the shield behind my
>shower valve.
>The valve is a Moen 1225
> https://www.moen.com/products/Moen/Moen_Cartridge/1225
>When I went to remove the screw inside the knob,
>the blankidy blank screw stripped out.
>It is the process show on this video between
> 1:18 to 1:28
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKral2U5mcw
>AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!
>What next?
>-T

I must be missing something here < ? >
The screw just holds the knob on.
The cartridges are free lifetime.
Replace the cartridge.
Replace the screw.
John T.

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 by: T - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 11:21 UTC

On 10/3/22 03:55, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 20:57:28 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> I had one of those oh poop moments.
>> I need to change out the shield behind my
>> shower valve.
>> The valve is a Moen 1225
>> https://www.moen.com/products/Moen/Moen_Cartridge/1225
>> When I went to remove the screw inside the knob,
>> the blankidy blank screw stripped out.
>> It is the process show on this video between
>> 1:18 to 1:28
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKral2U5mcw
>> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!
>> What next?
>> -T
>
>
> I must be missing something here < ? >
> The screw just holds the knob on.
> The cartridges are free lifetime.
> Replace the cartridge.
> Replace the screw.
> John T.

What you missed was that I have to get the screw
out first to get the knob off so I can replace
the shield and/or the cartridge.

The screw stripped on me, meaning it is frozen in
cartridge.

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 by: hub...@ccanoemail.com - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 11:26 UTC

On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 04:21:30 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 10/3/22 03:55, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 20:57:28 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> I had one of those oh poop moments.
>>> I need to change out the shield behind my
>>> shower valve.
>>> The valve is a Moen 1225
>>> https://www.moen.com/products/Moen/Moen_Cartridge/1225
>>> When I went to remove the screw inside the knob,
>>> the blankidy blank screw stripped out.
>>> It is the process show on this video between
>>> 1:18 to 1:28
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKral2U5mcw
>>> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!
>>> What next?
>>> -T
>>
>>
>> I must be missing something here < ? >
>> The screw just holds the knob on.
>> The cartridges are free lifetime.
>> Replace the cartridge.
>> Replace the screw.
>> John T.
>
>
>What you missed was that I have to get the screw
>out first to get the knob off so I can replace
>the shield and/or the cartridge.
>
>The screw stripped on me, meaning it is frozen in
>cartridge.

I'd probably try a small hole saw - just big enough to
go around the screw head.
< it seems like you'll be replacing the knob anyway >
John T.

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 by: T - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 11:32 UTC

On 10/3/22 04:26, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 04:21:30 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 10/3/22 03:55, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 20:57:28 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> I had one of those oh poop moments.
>>>> I need to change out the shield behind my
>>>> shower valve.
>>>> The valve is a Moen 1225
>>>> https://www.moen.com/products/Moen/Moen_Cartridge/1225
>>>> When I went to remove the screw inside the knob,
>>>> the blankidy blank screw stripped out.
>>>> It is the process show on this video between
>>>> 1:18 to 1:28
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKral2U5mcw
>>>> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!
>>>> What next?
>>>> -T
>>>
>>>
>>> I must be missing something here < ? >
>>> The screw just holds the knob on.
>>> The cartridges are free lifetime.
>>> Replace the cartridge.
>>> Replace the screw.
>>> John T.
>>
>>
>> What you missed was that I have to get the screw
>> out first to get the knob off so I can replace
>> the shield and/or the cartridge.
>>
>> The screw stripped on me, meaning it is frozen in
>> cartridge.
>
>
> I'd probably try a small hole saw - just big enough to
> go around the screw head.
> < it seems like you'll be replacing the knob anyway >
> John T.

I though of one of these to grind the head off:

https://www.amazon.com/HOMEIDOL-Tungsten-Wood-working-Polishing-Engraving/dp/B076D4Z8LX

Seems I do have to replace the knob after all
that grinding.

And if the screw still won't come out, replace
the cartridge too. The cartridge is probably 30
years old, so I it seems a good idea to replace
it too.

Your thoughts?

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 by: hub...@ccanoemail.com - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 11:37 UTC

On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 04:32:53 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 10/3/22 04:26, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 04:21:30 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/3/22 03:55, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 20:57:28 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>> I had one of those oh poop moments.
>>>>> I need to change out the shield behind my
>>>>> shower valve.
>>>>> The valve is a Moen 1225
>>>>> https://www.moen.com/products/Moen/Moen_Cartridge/1225
>>>>> When I went to remove the screw inside the knob,
>>>>> the blankidy blank screw stripped out.
>>>>> It is the process show on this video between
>>>>> 1:18 to 1:28
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKral2U5mcw
>>>>> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!
>>>>> What next?
>>>>> -T
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I must be missing something here < ? >
>>>> The screw just holds the knob on.
>>>> The cartridges are free lifetime.
>>>> Replace the cartridge.
>>>> Replace the screw.
>>>> John T.
>>>
>>>
>>> What you missed was that I have to get the screw
>>> out first to get the knob off so I can replace
>>> the shield and/or the cartridge.
>>>
>>> The screw stripped on me, meaning it is frozen in
>>> cartridge.
>>
>>
>> I'd probably try a small hole saw - just big enough to
>> go around the screw head.
>> < it seems like you'll be replacing the knob anyway >
>> John T.
>
>I though of one of these to grind the head off:
>
>https://www.amazon.com/HOMEIDOL-Tungsten-Wood-working-Polishing-Engraving/dp/B076D4Z8LX
>
>Seems I do have to replace the knob after all
>that grinding.
>
>And if the screw still won't come out, replace
>the cartridge too. The cartridge is probably 30
>years old, so I it seems a good idea to replace
>it too.
>
>Your thoughts?

The screw is stainless steel - tough stuff.
The knob is plastic.
I'd cut the knob with a little hole saw ...
John T.

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From: T...@invalid.invalid (T)
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 by: T - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 11:48 UTC

On 10/3/22 04:37, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 04:32:53 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 10/3/22 04:26, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 04:21:30 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/3/22 03:55, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 20:57:28 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>> I had one of those oh poop moments.
>>>>>> I need to change out the shield behind my
>>>>>> shower valve.
>>>>>> The valve is a Moen 1225
>>>>>> https://www.moen.com/products/Moen/Moen_Cartridge/1225
>>>>>> When I went to remove the screw inside the knob,
>>>>>> the blankidy blank screw stripped out.
>>>>>> It is the process show on this video between
>>>>>> 1:18 to 1:28
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKral2U5mcw
>>>>>> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!
>>>>>> What next?
>>>>>> -T
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I must be missing something here < ? >
>>>>> The screw just holds the knob on.
>>>>> The cartridges are free lifetime.
>>>>> Replace the cartridge.
>>>>> Replace the screw.
>>>>> John T.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What you missed was that I have to get the screw
>>>> out first to get the knob off so I can replace
>>>> the shield and/or the cartridge.
>>>>
>>>> The screw stripped on me, meaning it is frozen in
>>>> cartridge.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd probably try a small hole saw - just big enough to
>>> go around the screw head.
>>> < it seems like you'll be replacing the knob anyway >
>>> John T.
>>
>> I though of one of these to grind the head off:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/HOMEIDOL-Tungsten-Wood-working-Polishing-Engraving/dp/B076D4Z8LX
>>
>> Seems I do have to replace the knob after all
>> that grinding.
>>
>> And if the screw still won't come out, replace
>> the cartridge too. The cartridge is probably 30
>> years old, so I it seems a good idea to replace
>> it too.
>>
>> Your thoughts?
>
>
> The screw is stainless steel - tough stuff.
> The knob is plastic.
> I'd cut the knob with a little hole saw ...
> John T.

Maybe one of those drummels would mess up
the knob around the screw.

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 by: Frank - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 12:07 UTC

On 10/3/2022 7:48 AM, T wrote:
> On 10/3/22 04:37, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 04:32:53 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/3/22 04:26, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 04:21:30 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/3/22 03:55, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 20:57:28 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>> I had one of those oh poop moments.
>>>>>>> I need to change out the shield behind my
>>>>>>> shower valve.
>>>>>>> The valve is a Moen 1225
>>>>>>>        https://www.moen.com/products/Moen/Moen_Cartridge/1225
>>>>>>> When I went to remove the screw inside the knob,
>>>>>>> the blankidy blank screw stripped out.
>>>>>>> It is the process show on this video between
>>>>>>>          1:18 to 1:28
>>>>>>>       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKral2U5mcw
>>>>>>> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!
>>>>>>> What next?
>>>>>>> -T
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      I must be missing something here  < ? >
>>>>>> The screw just holds the knob on.
>>>>>> The cartridges are free lifetime.
>>>>>> Replace the cartridge.
>>>>>> Replace the screw.
>>>>>>      John T.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What you missed was that I have to get the screw
>>>>> out first to get the knob off so I can replace
>>>>> the shield and/or the cartridge.
>>>>>
>>>>> The screw stripped on me, meaning it is frozen in
>>>>> cartridge.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     I'd probably try a small hole saw  -  just big enough to
>>>> go around the screw head.
>>>> < it seems like you'll be replacing the knob anyway >
>>>>      John T.
>>>
>>> I though of one of these to grind the head off:
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/HOMEIDOL-Tungsten-Wood-working-Polishing-Engraving/dp/B076D4Z8LX
>>>
>>> Seems I do have to replace the knob after all
>>> that grinding.
>>>
>>> And if the screw still won't come out, replace
>>> the cartridge too.  The cartridge is probably 30
>>> years old, so I it seems a good idea to replace
>>> it too.
>>>
>>> Your thoughts?
>>
>>
>> The screw is stainless steel  -  tough stuff.
>> The knob is plastic.
>> I'd cut the knob with a little hole saw ...
>>    John T.
>
> Maybe one of those drummels would mess up
> the knob around the screw.

I hate to do it for jobs that should be easy to do but I have called the
plumber for Moen cartridges in tub and shower where there are no shut
off valves and I need to turn off all the water.

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 by: Bob F - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 13:36 UTC

On 10/3/2022 4:37 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 04:32:53 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 10/3/22 04:26, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 04:21:30 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/3/22 03:55, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 20:57:28 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>> I had one of those oh poop moments.
>>>>>> I need to change out the shield behind my
>>>>>> shower valve.
>>>>>> The valve is a Moen 1225
>>>>>> https://www.moen.com/products/Moen/Moen_Cartridge/1225
>>>>>> When I went to remove the screw inside the knob,
>>>>>> the blankidy blank screw stripped out.
>>>>>> It is the process show on this video between
>>>>>> 1:18 to 1:28
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKral2U5mcw
>>>>>> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!
>>>>>> What next?
>>>>>> -T
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I must be missing something here < ? >
>>>>> The screw just holds the knob on.
>>>>> The cartridges are free lifetime.
>>>>> Replace the cartridge.
>>>>> Replace the screw.
>>>>> John T.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What you missed was that I have to get the screw
>>>> out first to get the knob off so I can replace
>>>> the shield and/or the cartridge.
>>>>
>>>> The screw stripped on me, meaning it is frozen in
>>>> cartridge.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd probably try a small hole saw - just big enough to
>>> go around the screw head.
>>> < it seems like you'll be replacing the knob anyway >
>>> John T.
>>
>> I though of one of these to grind the head off:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/HOMEIDOL-Tungsten-Wood-working-Polishing-Engraving/dp/B076D4Z8LX
>>
>> Seems I do have to replace the knob after all
>> that grinding.
>>
>> And if the screw still won't come out, replace
>> the cartridge too. The cartridge is probably 30
>> years old, so I it seems a good idea to replace
>> it too.
>>
>> Your thoughts?
>
>
> The screw is stainless steel - tough stuff.
> The knob is plastic.
> I'd cut the knob with a little hole saw ...
> John T.

Drill the screw till the head falls off. Then use vise grips.

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 by: micky - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 15:11 UTC

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 3 Oct 2022 06:36:40 -0700, Bob F
<bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 10/3/2022 4:37 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 04:32:53 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/3/22 04:26, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 04:21:30 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/3/22 03:55, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 20:57:28 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>> I had one of those oh poop moments.
>>>>>>> I need to change out the shield behind my
>>>>>>> shower valve.
>>>>>>> The valve is a Moen 1225
>>>>>>> https://www.moen.com/products/Moen/Moen_Cartridge/1225
>>>>>>> When I went to remove the screw inside the knob,
>>>>>>> the blankidy blank screw stripped out.
>>>>>>> It is the process show on this video between
>>>>>>> 1:18 to 1:28
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKral2U5mcw
>>>>>>> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!
>>>>>>> What next?
>>>>>>> -T
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I must be missing something here < ? >
>>>>>> The screw just holds the knob on.
>>>>>> The cartridges are free lifetime.
>>>>>> Replace the cartridge.
>>>>>> Replace the screw.
>>>>>> John T.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What you missed was that I have to get the screw
>>>>> out first to get the knob off so I can replace
>>>>> the shield and/or the cartridge.
>>>>>
>>>>> The screw stripped on me, meaning it is frozen in
>>>>> cartridge.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd probably try a small hole saw - just big enough to
>>>> go around the screw head.
>>>> < it seems like you'll be replacing the knob anyway >
>>>> John T.
>>>
>>> I though of one of these to grind the head off:
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/HOMEIDOL-Tungsten-Wood-working-Polishing-Engraving/dp/B076D4Z8LX
>>>
>>> Seems I do have to replace the knob after all
>>> that grinding.
>>>
>>> And if the screw still won't come out, replace
>>> the cartridge too. The cartridge is probably 30
>>> years old, so I it seems a good idea to replace
>>> it too.
>>>
>>> Your thoughts?
>>
>>
>> The screw is stainless steel - tough stuff.
>> The knob is plastic.
>> I'd cut the knob with a little hole saw ...
>> John T.
>
>Drill the screw till the head falls off. Then use vise grips.

Given the replaceable nature of the handle, that sounds like the best
idea, but in other situations where you can't get a screw out, I suggest
left-handed drill bits. Surprisingly, the only low prices set of 4 last
I looked, years ago, was at Harbor Freight, although there is one name
brand that sells the bits one at a time. Sometimes even the smallest
one is not small enough, but when one fits, while drilling the head out,
sometimes the whole screw comes out.

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 by: rbowman - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 15:22 UTC

On 10/2/22 23:22, T wrote:
> Maybe put a grinder on my drill and grind the
> screw head off?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3glMxsK-SU

I've had good luck with Grabit. Is your drill motor reversible? It's
easier that extractors.

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 by: Bob F - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 20:02 UTC

On 10/3/2022 8:11 AM, micky wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 3 Oct 2022 06:36:40 -0700, Bob F
> <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/3/2022 4:37 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 04:32:53 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/3/22 04:26, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 04:21:30 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/3/22 03:55, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 20:57:28 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>> I had one of those oh poop moments.
>>>>>>>> I need to change out the shield behind my
>>>>>>>> shower valve.
>>>>>>>> The valve is a Moen 1225
>>>>>>>> https://www.moen.com/products/Moen/Moen_Cartridge/1225
>>>>>>>> When I went to remove the screw inside the knob,
>>>>>>>> the blankidy blank screw stripped out.
>>>>>>>> It is the process show on this video between
>>>>>>>> 1:18 to 1:28
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKral2U5mcw
>>>>>>>> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!
>>>>>>>> What next?
>>>>>>>> -T
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I must be missing something here < ? >
>>>>>>> The screw just holds the knob on.
>>>>>>> The cartridges are free lifetime.
>>>>>>> Replace the cartridge.
>>>>>>> Replace the screw.
>>>>>>> John T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What you missed was that I have to get the screw
>>>>>> out first to get the knob off so I can replace
>>>>>> the shield and/or the cartridge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The screw stripped on me, meaning it is frozen in
>>>>>> cartridge.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd probably try a small hole saw - just big enough to
>>>>> go around the screw head.
>>>>> < it seems like you'll be replacing the knob anyway >
>>>>> John T.
>>>>
>>>> I though of one of these to grind the head off:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/HOMEIDOL-Tungsten-Wood-working-Polishing-Engraving/dp/B076D4Z8LX
>>>>
>>>> Seems I do have to replace the knob after all
>>>> that grinding.
>>>>
>>>> And if the screw still won't come out, replace
>>>> the cartridge too. The cartridge is probably 30
>>>> years old, so I it seems a good idea to replace
>>>> it too.
>>>>
>>>> Your thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> The screw is stainless steel - tough stuff.
>>> The knob is plastic.
>>> I'd cut the knob with a little hole saw ...
>>> John T.
>>
>> Drill the screw till the head falls off. Then use vise grips.
>
> Given the replaceable nature of the handle, that sounds like the best
> idea, but in other situations where you can't get a screw out, I suggest
> left-handed drill bits. Surprisingly, the only low prices set of 4 last
> I looked, years ago, was at Harbor Freight, although there is one name
> brand that sells the bits one at a time. Sometimes even the smallest
> one is not small enough, but when one fits, while drilling the head out,
> sometimes the whole screw comes out.

If there is any screw edge accessible, A good diagonal cutter can often
get enough grip to loosen a screw.

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