OT if the documents at Mar a Lago were planted by the FBI, how did
trump manage to declassify them in advance? How did stumpie know which
documents to declassify if the FBI hadn't planted them yet?

I know stumpie would never lie, so it's a magical paradox.

On 8/15/2022 2:20 PM, micky wrote:
> OT if the documents at Mar a Lago were planted by the FBI, how did
> trump manage to declassify them in advance? How did stumpie know which
> documents to declassify if the FBI hadn't planted them yet?
>
> I know stumpie would never lie, so it's a magical paradox.

So are you.

On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 2:25:32 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
> On 8/15/2022 2:20 PM, micky wrote:
> > OT if the documents at Mar a Lago were planted by the FBI, how did
> > trump manage to declassify them in advance? How did stumpie know which
> > documents to declassify if the FBI hadn't planted them yet?
> >
> > I know stumpie would never lie, so it's a magical paradox.
> So are you.

Great comeback, Frank. So insightful.

On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
> OT if the documents at Mar a Lago were planted by the FBI, how did
> trump manage to declassify them in advance? How did stumpie know which
> documents to declassify if the FBI hadn't planted them yet?
>
> I know stumpie would never lie, so it's a magical paradox.

The story is that anything was declassified as soon as it left the actual White House.
Standing order, apparently.

On 8/15/2022 2:06 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>> OT if the documents at Mar a Lago were planted by the FBI, how did
>> trump manage to declassify them in advance? How did stumpie know which
>> documents to declassify if the FBI hadn't planted them yet?
>>
>> I know stumpie would never lie, so it's a magical paradox.
>
> The story is that anything was declassified as soon as it left the actual White House.
> Standing order, apparently.

Standing imaginary order.

Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> writes:
>On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>> OT if the documents at Mar a Lago were planted by the FBI, how did
>> trump manage to declassify them in advance? How did stumpie know which
>> documents to declassify if the FBI hadn't planted them yet?
>>
>> I know stumpie would never lie, so it's a magical paradox.
>
> The story is that anything was declassified as soon as it left the actual White House.
>Standing order, apparently.

Federal regulations subject declassification to several rules and regulations. One
cannot just wave ones hand and proclaim something declassified. One could argue that
the disgraced and disgraceful fairly defeated former president has violated those
regulations on many occasions, both deliberately and carelessly.

On 2022-08-15, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>> OT if the documents at Mar a Lago were planted by the FBI, how did
>> trump manage to declassify them in advance? How did stumpie know which
>> documents to declassify if the FBI hadn't planted them yet?
>>
>> I know stumpie would never lie, so it's a magical paradox.
>
> The story is that anything was declassified as soon as it left the
> actual White House.
> Standing order, apparently.

Sadly, that's not the procedure for declassification.

<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-classified-records/>
"It's not the case that a president can declassify documents with just
verbal instructions. His instruction to declassify a given document
would first be memorialized in a written memo, usually drafted by
White House counsel, which he would then sign.

"Typically, the leadership of the agency or agencies with equities in
the document would be consulted and given an opportunity to provide
their views on the declassification decision. As the ultimate
declassification authority, however, the president can decide to
override any objections they raise.

"Once a final decision is made, and the relevant agency receives
the president's signed memo, the physical document in question would be
marked — the old classification level would be crossed out — and the
document would then be stamped, "Declassified on X date" by the agency
in question."

Here's a link to the applicable executive order, which supersedes
previous executive orders on the subject dating back to Truman:
<https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2010/01/05/E9-31418/classified-national-security-information>

--
Cindy Hamilton

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 15 Aug 2022 14:20:03 -0400, micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

>OT if the documents at Mar a Lago were planted by the FBI, how did
>trump manage to declassify them in advance? How did stumpie know which
>documents to declassify if the FBI hadn't planted them yet?
>
>I know stumpie would never lie, so it's a magical paradox.

Stumpie was urged by staff to cooperate with National ARchives or
whoever wanted the papers back. But he wouldn't give them back and
accordign to more than one source, he said "It's not theirs. It's mine."