I'm a dream with my kids, they look much younger, maybe 6 & 8, they look
a bit different. I'm dropping them off at school, they keep showing up
back at the car looking at their phone.

I say "You're supposed to be in school, why are you here?" or somesuch.
Each gives some snarky response I can't remember.

I'm now at a beach with a sidewalk on the left with stores. I see an
older thin, tanned and wrinkled tattooed woman with short blondish hair
who's topless, her right breast is smaller than an a cup, just barely
there, she's holding out the left breast out which looks to be 3 feet
long and reminds me of a boa pointing the nipple at an obese Caucasian
man with short greasy black hair and beard wearing navy cargo shorts and
a yellow-beige Hawaiian shirt with palm-tree and island illustrations
sitting on a bench. She says something to him but either I don't hear
it or don't remember. I can't help but look a second but look away in
disgust and move on.

I'm back at home, it appears like a daycare with a bunch of colorful
wood blocks of different shapes and a number of kids including my own.
I ask again why they aren't in school. They ignore me, I'm trying to
figure out how to get them to go to school feeling very frustrated.

The kids kind of meander together to form a scene like a band, then they
morph over a couple seconds catching fire with a yellow flame their skin
turning yellow, their clothes turn black and mostly fall off leaving
them in black straps as if from some metal band album cover as they grow
and age to adults, also growing black horns. They're mouthing something
in a fevor, but no sound emerges, I think it was "RISE!"

-

I have some base theories that it being Christmas vacation for my kids
my subconscious is confused or processing that they aren't in school.

We passed a good number of homeless tents yesterday on our way to their
Grandparents, and on Saturday to go see the Nutcracker live downtown
where there was one woman walking across the middle of the street
obstructing traffic while incoherently yelling red-faced at all the cars
stopped to let her jaywalk.

I'll make a wild guess on the children turning in to demons that I'm
worried for their future.

All that fueled by heartburn from overdoing Christmas dinner.

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-Justisaur

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On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 4:40:52 PM UTC-6, Justisaur wrote:
> I'm a dream with my kids, they look much younger, maybe 6 & 8, they look
>snip<
> All that fueled by heartburn from overdoing Christmas dinner.
> -
> -Justisaur
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First, about that heartburn: take an empty shaker of any kind (like even a spice can or something that you can remove the lid and fill yourself) and fill it with *baking soda* (currently running around $1.20 a box, but it *used* to be around 25¢ a box, but that's bidenomics for you—) and sprinkle it on *everything except* anything *obviously* fruity. Putting a sprinkle in your coffee will prevent kidney stones. If you've already *got* kidney stones, take a tall glass of water and start adding in baking soda until it begins to taste like Alka Seltzer, then drink it all down. It will feel like someone poured water all over a burning campfire in your kidneys. Adding it to salads is like eating a *miracle* in your mouth! (Ya gotta try it to believe it! But remember: *lightly* sprinkle!! You can start building up to "more" of a sprinkle as you learn how to "shake to taste," as it were.)

Also: As you will find this helps eliminate heartburn (it works *especially* well on pizzas, lasagna, and baked beans!) there is also evidence to support it as a "nature's cure" to cancer, but following *that* recipe gets the AMA angry as hell, because it *prevents them* from stealing *your* money, regarding a biologically caused illness that *they* brought on to begin with (youtu.be/keYPPDmyoD8)— but I digress....) You *may* wish to simply *remove* the "salt" shaker from your table and use a "baking soda" shaker instead.

As to your dream:
I'm gonna *start* by making two or three presumptions (based on what you've written, aka "inductive reasoning"):
1) you have kids *in* school (I know, you wrote about them *in the dream,* but I've been analyzing dreams for so long, I've found it really is a bit of a "shaky branch" to go out on to "assume" you have kids in school) and
2) you live in a "blue state" like California, Oregon, Washington (along the West coast) seeing as how this *is* winter (for most of the rest of the country / northern hemisphere) so homeless people in tents sounds like a sunny climate area.
3) you may have an issue with either A) being unbaptized / your kids being unbaptized, and/or B) lack of any actual commitment *to* any particular faith. (There are *lots* of religions that actually have a logically FALSE core at the center of their belief structures!)

Note: Hebrew/Judeo-Christianity *reveals* "Is-based ideology" (that which *is perfectly* TRUE) whereas Islam *reflects* "not-based ideology. See also: tinyurl.com/TrueWordOfGod (regarding logically TRUE / FALSE ideology.)

Now also, there's gonna be a *bit* of political nuance as well.
That's because, well,
politics reflects the structure of large numbers of people and how they behave *as a group*;
group behavior in one's environment affects one's "subconscious mind" which is how politics affects dreams, and how dreams *may be guided* through religion (or not! The thing is, "Reality Conforms to Thought.") (And if you *even TRY* to doubt that, just *observe* what happens!!)

Also: rather than type the rest of this "live" online, I'm gonna reply to it "offline" in a scratch-pad text file, then cut/paste it "up here" in the "live" html window. For this reason, the quotation / citation reference will look a tad "different" than usual. Your text will be preceded by:
J:> "[whatever]" whereas my lines will be "sans reference" (plain, no initial:> etc.)

J wrote:> "I'm [in] a dream with my kids, they look much younger, maybe 6 & 8, they look a bit different."

You *may* be seeing their "formative development" age, meaning they're still "open to direction" and molding, shaping, etc.

Consider: biblehub.com/proverbs/22-6.htm Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it.

This same *principle* applies to plants as well as children. Take trees, for instance: native Americans (Indians) used to "mark the trail" by taking a knife blade (of some sort) and slicing down the top center of a young sapling, and "bending" the (now split) left half and right half of the tree top so that it would grow to form a Ϫ shape. (I've actually seen one of these in nature, sadly, it was destroyed to make way for I-840. Ironically, the tree that "marked the path" ended up being *in the path*!)

How your children are raised *now* determines how they behave in the *future,* which is what the communist / socialists / "ruling elite" are trying to instill through "narrative type" education, rather than "traditional" education. And yes, this gets into a *very* left-wing / right-wing approach, but I'll do what I can to stay "center line" in the analysis. But let's face it, a dream reflecting leftist ideology typically results in a left-right-focused analysis.

Now I *do* understand that there *are* right-wing folk in California / blue states, etc., like take Ronald Reagan for instance! And Schwarzenegger, etc. Heck, even Trump came from New York!

But the blue-state governors who allow Soros-funded D.A.s to allow homelessness, drugs and crime to run rampant while clamping down on First and Second Amendment (Constitutional) rights are literally spelling "death" (in the form of "D.I.E.: "diversity, equity and inclusion") for the people of their states. Sorry, on with the analysis:

J:> "I'm dropping them off at school, they keep showing up back at the car looking at their phone."

Speaking of "trees" here for a moment, I'm gonna "go out on a limb" and point out that "routine passages of time" tend to "disappear" in the overall imagery of a dream. For instance, people eat, pee and poop *all the time* but it's *rarely* involved in a dream, so those portions of a day's activity (or week's, or month's!) simply have nothing to do with a dream narrative (how the dream "plays out" in the dream itself.)

Another example: you can have a dream of being inside a large box store, like a Wal*Mart, and although the walls and doors and such are all plainly visible, the floors are *wide open* and *empty* (because the product comes and goes like a river, and the walls and displays move around on a daily / weekly / monthly basis, so that's all basically "not visible" in the view of the inside of the store.)

So what you're seeing, is A) dropping off the kids, and B) them returning to the car, looking at their phone(s). What this tells me is, your kids appear socio-technologically addicted to their phones. You may need to start a policy of "no phones in the car." Seriously, they make special "lock boxes" for just this purpose: people get into a car, put their phones in the box, and the box is *locked* (either by key or timer, etc.) until the ride is over, then the box is unlocked and the phones returned.

What this accomplishes is: parental / familial communication between the parent(s) *and* the child(ren) or even between the driver and the passenger(s). In other words, while the techno-addiction is leading children (and adults) to their deaths (D.I.E.) the *choice* is to practice *LIFE* instead— and that gets into the spoken "WORD" and *that* is where and when this analysis may begin to "seem" a tad "religious," but it's actually "logically" based: "λόγος, logos" is the root word of "WORD," meaning "meaning," meaning "LOGIC"— (Thank you, Young Sheldon! imdb.com/title/tt6226232/episodes?season=1 ) — a broad term meaning "reasoning expressed by words."

So here is a set of definitions for you:
"Politics" is what a "group of people" believe (please note: the Left believes in *nothing,* hence, atheism, the rise of satanism, Islam, socialism/communism, death cults, etc.) whereas "religion" is what an *individual* believes (the political belief of the *right* is in individual freedom of religion.)

So while the right upholds the Constitution (which *supports* freedom of religion) the left seeks to abolish individual freedom (and hence, the Constitution. I'm *really* looking forward to "see" what August 2nd, 2024 "reveals" to world history, *including* American politics! The "then ruling President" declaring "marshal law" thus suspending elections is *well within* the realm of probability!)

Now I realize that any reader *may certainly* have similar *or* differing political views. (No problem!) — I'm simply setting out "how" the left / right political / religious "vibrations of the collective subconscious" affect any person's actual dream(s.)

Please note: Ecclesiastes 10:2— A wise man’s heart inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left.

J:> "I say 'You're supposed to be in school, why are you here?' or [some such.] Each gives some snarky response I can't remember."

Fully understood! Dream-conversations are *often* "mostly mental" in nature, and while they seem to "fit at the time" of the dream, much like *any* drop or drops of water may flow through a stream or river, making out *individual words* / focused meaning is often a whole other ballgame! (Like: "I know I emptied my glass of water into the creek, and that it flowed downstream, but what exactly happened to that collection of molecules? They're all 'downstream' of the point at which they were added to the creek.")

On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 4:40:52 PM UTC-6, Justisaur wrote:
> I'm a dream with my kids, they look much younger, maybe 6 & 8, they look
> a bit different. I'm dropping them off at school, they keep showing up
> back at the car looking at their phone.
>
> I say "You're supposed to be in school, why are you here?" or somesuch.
> Each gives some snarky response I can't remember.
>
> I'm now at a beach with a sidewalk on the left with stores. I see an
> older thin, tanned and wrinkled tattooed woman with short blondish hair
> who's topless, her right breast is smaller than an a cup, just barely
> there, she's holding out the left breast out which looks to be 3 feet
> long and reminds me of a boa pointing the nipple at an obese Caucasian
> man with short greasy black hair and beard wearing navy cargo shorts and
> a yellow-beige Hawaiian shirt with palm-tree and island illustrations
> sitting on a bench. She says something to him but either I don't hear
> it or don't remember. I can't help but look a second but look away in
> disgust and move on.
>
> I'm back at home, it appears like a daycare with a bunch of colorful
> wood blocks of different shapes and a number of kids including my own.
> I ask again why they aren't in school. They ignore me, I'm trying to
> figure out how to get them to go to school feeling very frustrated.
>
> The kids kind of meander together to form a scene like a band, then they
> morph over a couple seconds catching fire with a yellow flame their skin
> turning yellow, their clothes turn black and mostly fall off leaving
> them in black straps as if from some metal band album cover as they grow
> and age to adults, also growing black horns. They're mouthing something
> in a fevor, but no sound emerges, I think it was "RISE!"

So I realize that the response / reading / reply I offered (earlier) was a bit "religious/political" in nature ("Duh~ ya think?!?~") and I realize that *some* folk (*especially* those raised in a secular / non-religious environment) may have a "stay away from *that* nut-job!" type of reaction to any such interpretation / analysis / response.

However, to bluntly say that your dream reflects a home environment where the parents are //failing// to engage their own children in a life-affirming manner may sound a *bit* condemnatory, and it is my *aim* to *avoid* condemning or accusing anyone of anything. (After all, what good does it do to accuse or condemn anyone?)

Yet to "lay out" a contrast of {{"what is NOT working"} to {"what IS working"}} it becomes necessary to highlight the "godless" structure of the dissolution of the "nuclear family" by "the Left" *in contrast with* the God-centered, family-focused environment of the "Right" (that part of the "Right" that is *free of* the Left's "misidentification" of "far-right" groups as having *anything to do* with "conservative, right-wing" thought / behavioral patterns. In other words, "far-right" is simply an obfuscatory term for "radical leftist.")

After all, I've had like around 5 or 6 "failed" families, depending upon how one "defines" a "family," so believe me, nothing is meant to sound "judgy" but rather *is observational,* such as "the consequence of 0 = 0, whereas the consequence of 1 = 1."

How you (the reader) choose to use the information provided (or not!) is *entirely* your own decision, *however,* I *was* expecting *some* kind of "feedback" as to your thoughts on the analysis.

On 1/10/2024 11:42 AM, Richard Silk wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 4:40:52 PM UTC-6, Justisaur wrote:
>> I'm a dream with my kids, they look much younger, maybe 6 & 8, they look
>> a bit different. I'm dropping them off at school, they keep showing up
>> back at the car looking at their phone.
>>
>> I say "You're supposed to be in school, why are you here?" or somesuch.
>> Each gives some snarky response I can't remember.
>>
>> I'm now at a beach with a sidewalk on the left with stores. I see an
>> older thin, tanned and wrinkled tattooed woman with short blondish hair
>> who's topless, her right breast is smaller than an a cup, just barely
>> there, she's holding out the left breast out which looks to be 3 feet
>> long and reminds me of a boa pointing the nipple at an obese Caucasian
>> man with short greasy black hair and beard wearing navy cargo shorts and
>> a yellow-beige Hawaiian shirt with palm-tree and island illustrations
>> sitting on a bench. She says something to him but either I don't hear
>> it or don't remember. I can't help but look a second but look away in
>> disgust and move on.
>>
>> I'm back at home, it appears like a daycare with a bunch of colorful
>> wood blocks of different shapes and a number of kids including my own.
>> I ask again why they aren't in school. They ignore me, I'm trying to
>> figure out how to get them to go to school feeling very frustrated.
>>
>> The kids kind of meander together to form a scene like a band, then they
>> morph over a couple seconds catching fire with a yellow flame their skin
>> turning yellow, their clothes turn black and mostly fall off leaving
>> them in black straps as if from some metal band album cover as they grow
>> and age to adults, also growing black horns. They're mouthing something
>> in a fevor, but no sound emerges, I think it was "RISE!"
>
> So I realize that the response / reading / reply I offered (earlier) was a bit "religious/political" in nature ("Duh~ ya think?!?~") and I realize that *some* folk (*especially* those raised in a secular / non-religious environment) may have a "stay away from *that* nut-job!" type of reaction to any such interpretation / analysis / response.
>
> However, to bluntly say that your dream reflects a home environment where the parents are //failing// to engage their own children in a life-affirming manner may sound a *bit* condemnatory, and it is my *aim* to *avoid* condemning or accusing anyone of anything. (After all, what good does it do to accuse or condemn anyone?)
>
> Yet to "lay out" a contrast of {{"what is NOT working"} to {"what IS working"}} it becomes necessary to highlight the "godless" structure of the dissolution of the "nuclear family" by "the Left" *in contrast with* the God-centered, family-focused environment of the "Right" (that part of the "Right" that is *free of* the Left's "misidentification" of "far-right" groups as having *anything to do* with "conservative, right-wing" thought / behavioral patterns. In other words, "far-right" is simply an obfuscatory term for "radical leftist.")
>
> After all, I've had like around 5 or 6 "failed" families, depending upon how one "defines" a "family," so believe me, nothing is meant to sound "judgy" but rather *is observational,* such as "the consequence of 0 = 0, whereas the consequence of 1 = 1."
>
> How you (the reader) choose to use the information provided (or not!) is *entirely* your own decision, *however,* I *was* expecting *some* kind of "feedback" as to your thoughts on the analysis.

A more mundane explanation, I don't see your previous feedback, it
doesn't seem to have made it to this corner of usenet.

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-Justisaur

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On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 3:40:56 PM UTC-6, Justisaur wrote:
> On 1/10/2024 11:42 AM, Richard Silk wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 4:40:52 PM UTC-6, Justisaur wrote:
> >> I'm a dream with my kids, they look much younger, maybe 6 & 8, they look
> >> a bit different. I'm dropping them off at school, they keep showing up
> >> back at the car looking at their phone.
> >>
> >> I say "You're supposed to be in school, why are you here?" or somesuch..
> >> Each gives some snarky response I can't remember.
> >>
> >> I'm now at a beach with a sidewalk on the left with stores. I see an
> >> older thin, tanned and wrinkled tattooed woman with short blondish hair
> >> who's topless, her right breast is smaller than an a cup, just barely
> >> there, she's holding out the left breast out which looks to be 3 feet
> >> long and reminds me of a boa pointing the nipple at an obese Caucasian
> >> man with short greasy black hair and beard wearing navy cargo shorts and
> >> a yellow-beige Hawaiian shirt with palm-tree and island illustrations
> >> sitting on a bench. She says something to him but either I don't hear
> >> it or don't remember. I can't help but look a second but look away in
> >> disgust and move on.
> >>
> >> I'm back at home, it appears like a daycare with a bunch of colorful
> >> wood blocks of different shapes and a number of kids including my own.
> >> I ask again why they aren't in school. They ignore me, I'm trying to
> >> figure out how to get them to go to school feeling very frustrated.
> >>
> >> The kids kind of meander together to form a scene like a band, then they
> >> morph over a couple seconds catching fire with a yellow flame their skin
> >> turning yellow, their clothes turn black and mostly fall off leaving
> >> them in black straps as if from some metal band album cover as they grow
> >> and age to adults, also growing black horns. They're mouthing something
> >> in a fevor, but no sound emerges, I think it was "RISE!"
> >
> > So I realize that the response / reading / reply I offered (earlier) was a bit "religious/political" in nature ("Duh~ ya think?!?~") and I realize that *some* folk (*especially* those raised in a secular / non-religious environment) may have a "stay away from *that* nut-job!" type of reaction to any such interpretation / analysis / response.
> >
> > However, to bluntly say that your dream reflects a home environment where the parents are //failing// to engage their own children in a life-affirming manner may sound a *bit* condemnatory, and it is my *aim* to *avoid* condemning or accusing anyone of anything. (After all, what good does it do to accuse or condemn anyone?)
> >
> > Yet to "lay out" a contrast of {{"what is NOT working"} to {"what IS working"}} it becomes necessary to highlight the "godless" structure of the dissolution of the "nuclear family" by "the Left" *in contrast with* the God-centered, family-focused environment of the "Right" (that part of the "Right" that is *free of* the Left's "misidentification" of "far-right" groups as having *anything to do* with "conservative, right-wing" thought / behavioral patterns. In other words, "far-right" is simply an obfuscatory term for "radical leftist.")
> >
> > After all, I've had like around 5 or 6 "failed" families, depending upon how one "defines" a "family," so believe me, nothing is meant to sound "judgy" but rather *is observational,* such as "the consequence of 0 = 0, whereas the consequence of 1 = 1."
> >
> > How you (the reader) choose to use the information provided (or not!) is *entirely* your own decision, *however,* I *was* expecting *some* kind of "feedback" as to your thoughts on the analysis.

> A more mundane explanation, I don't see your previous feedback, it
> doesn't seem to have made it to this corner of usenet.
<snip>

Some exploration is required on the part of the user with respect to the space being used and the method being used to access the space.

Meanwhile, I deal with "the text before my eyes" so if someone loses a thread, it's basically "gone" in my book. (ALTHOUGH: it *is* possible to "go back through" existing comments. Some are "nested beneath" other comments.)