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 by: World90 - Wed, 2 Jun 2021 18:32 UTC

Hello,

More philosophy about what is an idea and more..

I am a white arab and i think i am smart since i have also invented many
scalable algorithms and algorithms..

I will ask a philosophical question of:

What is an idea ?

I think i am philosopher that is smart, and in my philosophy i say
that an idea can be an idea that doesn't exist in the physical reality,
and we can notice it in mathematics that we can have constructions of
ideas that don't exist in the physical reality or that also can not
be applied to the physical reality, so now we can say that an idea
can have an independent life from the physical world or can be not be
independent from the physical world, so an idea can be both physical
and not physical, and the not physical of it can look like the
"software" in a computer and the physical of it can look like the
"hardware" of a computer. And in my philosophy(read it below) i also say
that an idea can be both smartness and meaning, and why i am saying so?
because you can use a mathematical formula without its meaning and you
can also know about its meaning.

I also think mathematics describes reality or theory with a great
precision, this is also why we can "abstract" and/or "model" and/or
"simulate" reality or theory with mathematics, also i think that
mathematics can be independent of reality when we are working in
mathematical theory, but the mathematical theory that is independent of
reality can then be applied to reality, also i think that mathematics
permits to optimize and verify, and we can also know about it by for
example asking a philosophical question of: What is logic in
mathematics? , so i think logic in mathematics maps logical expressions
to logical variables and to logical operators and from that it permits
to logically model with those logical variables and the logical
operators and it permits to solve and verify the logical model, i will
give an example so that you understand:

Take as an example in logic in mathematics the following kind of logical
proofs:

(p -> q) is equivalent to ((not(q) -> not(p))

Note: the symbol -> means implies and p and q are logical
variables.

or

(not(p) -> 0) is equivalent to p

So we can ask the philosophical question of why are we using those kind
of logical proofs in logic ?

I think that it is because logic in mathematics wants to get the
meaning of is a system logically correct, so if it is not logically
correct, so that can mean that it has no meaning in the reality, and i
think that those kind of logical proofs also permit to optimize since a
kind logical proof can also be more practical than another in reality or
theory.

More philosophy about formal logic and propositional logic and more..

I invite you to read the following article about propositional logic:

https://analyticsindiamag.com/why-propositional-logic-is-the-foundation-for-artificial-intelligence/

As you notice it says:

"Propositional logic provides more efficient and scalable algorithms
than the other logics."

More of my philosophy about Propositional logic:

I invite you again to read the following definition of what is an
implication in logic:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/material-implication

Notice that it says that the logical implication of
(p implies q) has the same meaning as ((not p) or q)

But I think the above definition by using the meaning of ((not p) or q)
is not the right way, since the ((not p) or q) is the formulation that
is logically inferred from the truth table of the logical implication,
so i think we have to say the following:

The statement “p implies q” means that if p is true, then q
"must" also be true.

And we have to use the truth table of the logical implication as
the following:

p q p -> q
0 0 1
0 1 1
1 0 0
1 1 1

So notice that the table of truth gives all the possibilities,
but i think it fixes the possibility of causality by saying:

The statement “p implies q” means that if p is true, then q
"must" also be true.

And the other possibilities of the truth table do model the other
possibilities.

So from the truth table we can easily get the following formulation of:

(p implies q) has the same meaning as ((not p) or q)

And in propositional logic we can use the following ways of logical proofs:

(p -> q) is equivalent to ((not(q) -> not(p))

Note: the symbol -> means implies and p and q are logical
variables.

or

(not(p) -> 0) is equivalent to p

And for fuzzy logic, here is the generalized form(that includes fuzzy
logic) for the three operators AND,OR,NOT:

x AND y is equivalent to min(x,y)
x OR y is equivalent to max(x,y)
NOT(x) is equivalent to (1 - x)

More philosophy about human consciousness and self_awareness..

I think that human consciousness and self_awareness comes from
the way life has evolved, since i say that the low level layers
of the physical world that are not biological are not able to
feel with human senses like is doing it humans, so they are not able to
give the necessary "meaning" that guides smartness, so i think that the
layer of the "biological" is able to do that, since i think that the
human senses that gives those feelings that give the meaning is
"inherent" to the biological and it is what gives "emergence" to
consciousness and self-awareness.

More philosophy about the reification and human consciousness..

So i can ask a philosophical question of:

What is consciousness ?

I will give you a smart example so that you understand:

So when you feel with your hands and brain that a table is "solid",
so this feeling gives a "meaning" that guides our thinking,
so our human senses are doing the same, they are feeling what's
a moving object and feeling what's speed and feeling what's a fast speed
or not fast speed and feeling what's an object that is before or after
another object etc. and i say that those feelings with our senses give
the meanings and it gives consciousness of time and space and matter, so
our feelings of our human senses give life or human awareness or human
consciousness that guides smartness, and notice that i am saying that an
idea is both smartness and meaning , and notice that in mathematics
we can have the following formula of a derivative:

Derivative_of(2*x) = 2

So this formula is a smartness, but the formula has also a "meaning"
given by our human senses , and i also define the self-awareness like a
human sense that feels the oneself, so now you are understanding that an
algorithm or running algorithm is like a formula that has not the
meaning that is understood by a human, so artificial intelligence has a
disadvantage since it is not guided by this meaning that plays the role
of an objective function that permits to optimize correctly.

More precision about more philosophy about the essence of human smartness..

I think i have to be more precise, so i will say that the process that
gives the meaning with the human senses is like reification, since we
say that reification is when you think of or treat something abstract as
a physical thing. Reification is a complex idea for when you treat
something immaterial — like happiness, fear, or evil — as a material
thing. So the human process in the brain that gives meaning with human
senses is by analogy like a the process of reification, since human
senses gives life or meaning to ideas, those human senses give
consciousness of the system composed of time and space and matter and
the human brain "compose" meanings with this consciousness, this is why
we are feeling life as we are feeling it.

I think i am a really smart philosopher, and i think i look like the
great philosophers like Aristotle and such, since i am thinking
rapidly and inventing ideas and discovering patterns etc. so i think
that my brain is special, so here is what i have just discovered:

I think that artificial intelligence is not understanding correctly
what is human smartness, since i say that an "idea" is both a smartness
and a "meaning" that "guides" smartness, it is like the objective
function of the dynamic system that is human smartness that guides and
makes us know how to optimize, since i say that humans are "feeling" the
"ideas" with there human senses that comes also from the brain, and this
feeling of the ideas is also what gives the ideas a meaning that guides,
and i also define the self-awareness like a human sense that feels
the oneself, so you are understanding now one of the basis
of my philosophy, since without those human senses, the algorithms
in a computer can not give a meaning that guides smartness, so i think
it is the disadvantage of artificial intelligence. So here is how i
think we have to do it with the algorithms:

I think i am smart, and i have just explained below that the divide and
conquer algorithms are a particular case or special case of Swarm
intelligence of PSO(Particle Swarm Optimization), and i will explain
it more in my next posts, now notice with me that Swarm intelligence
uses localized optimization with exploitation as heuristics like Greedy
algorithms so that to enhance much more the artificial intelligence
algorithm, but notice with me that general artificial intelligence can
use Swarm intelligence like PSO at a lower level layer, and at a higher
level layer it can use the divide and conquer algorithms, i mean that
the unknown meaning can be divided and conquered by measuring it with
previous meanings from the data using artifical intelligence of for
example PathNET so that to find the unknown meaning, and i define the
meaning in artificial intelligence as as the higher concept that is
recognized with deep learning, and this way we can construct much more
rapidly more and more meanings and incorporate them in PathNET so that
to converge more and more to much more generalized artificial
intelligence that will rapidly approximate general artificial intelligence.


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