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 by: Lenona - Thu, 20 Jul 2023 16:51 UTC

I found out about it when I found an online discussion (from June) on Ohio Senator J.D. Vance's proposal (in 2021) that people without children should lose the right...to vote.

bell_flower said:

"His book (Hillbilly Elegy) is essentially an ode to the Downtrodden White Midwestern Man who cannot get a living wage due to the loss of manufacturing jobs and the erosion of the family. Like any good conservative, Vance believes the answer is turning the clock back to 1950 or earlier. Vance's book is supposedly 'required reading' for those who want to understand why Trump got elected. I do not agree and I think THIS is a brilliant, and much shorter synopsis of why that happened."

And "Freya" said, before that:

"I bet all the (childless) people would be more than happy to stop voting if we no longer paid taxes.

"Of course, who would pay taxes?

"The other issue is that anyone who doesn't have kids on their income taxes would likely be considered childless.

"Soooo, this group is easily the majority and will only continue to grow. (Vance) is a moron who clearly can only appeal to absolute idiots who aren't able to figure this out."

Anyway, here's the shorter explanation (from 2016) as to why Trump won. It's by Joan C. Williams.

I have to admit, she makes quite a few points I never heard of - such as how the working-class IS middle class, in many ways - and that they don't like it when that gets ignored.

https://hbr.org/2016/11/what-so-many-people-dont-get-about-the-u-s-working-class

"Joan C. Williams is a Distinguished Professor of Law at University of California-Hastings, the Hastings Foundation Chair, and the founding director of the Center for WorkLife Law. An expert on social inequality, she is the author of 12 books, including Bias Interrupted: Creating Inclusion for Real and for Good (Harvard Business Review Press, 2021) and White Working Class: Overcoming Class Cluelessness in America (Harvard Business Review Press, 2019)..."

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 by: Lenona - Thu, 20 Jul 2023 18:39 UTC

And from Cambion:

"So do you get more votes per child? Or would it still be illegal to vote twice no matter how many kids you have? Because I'm sure if this were to be a thing, breeders would definitely be bitching about how the families with eight kids deserve to have more votes than the ones with just one kid."

More, if you like - payday loans also get mentioned. (Warning - foul language ahead):

http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,446505

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