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* 　lean against the walltonbei
+* Re: lean against the walllar3ryca
|`* Re: lean against the wallKerr-Mudd, John
| +* Re: lean against the walllar3ryca
| |`- Re: lean against the wallSam Plusnet
| +- Re: lean against the walllar3ryca
| `* Re: lean against the wallPeter Moylan
|  `- Re: lean against the walllar3ryca
+* Re: ?lean against the wallRich Ulrich
|`- Re: ?lean against the wallHibou
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 by: tonbei - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 14:29 UTC

lean against the wall

This phrase gives two different images, if no context is given.

1) lean backwards against the the wall, or he leans his back against the wall
2) lean forward against the wall, or he hangs on or holds on to the wall, putting his forehead on it.

And, there is a similar expression: "lean on the wall".

What do you say about it?

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 by: lar3ryca - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:49 UTC

On 2024-03-13 08:29, tonbei wrote:
> lean against the wall
>
> This phrase gives two different images, if no context is given.
> 1) lean backwards against the the wall, or he leans his back against the
> wall
> 2) lean forward against the wall, or he hangs on or holds on to the
> wall, putting his forehead on it.
> And, there is a similar expression: "lean on the wall".
> What do you say about it?

I say 'lean against the wall' can mean only one thing, but without
context, it may change the the 'image'. Without context, it can mean
leaning on the wall in any of the many ways to lean against the wall.

I have never heard anyone use the phrase 'lean on the wall'.

--
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in a bag.
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 by: Kerr-Mudd, John - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 16:36 UTC

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:49:12 -0600
lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:

> On 2024-03-13 08:29, tonbei wrote:
> > lean against the wall
> >
> > This phrase gives two different images, if no context is given.
> > 1) lean backwards against the the wall, or he leans his back against the
> > wall
> > 2) lean forward against the wall, or he hangs on or holds on to the
> > wall, putting his forehead on it.
> > And, there is a similar expression: "lean on the wall".
> > What do you say about it?
>
> I say 'lean against the wall' can mean only one thing, but without
> context, it may change the the 'image'. Without context, it can mean
> leaning on the wall in any of the many ways to lean against the wall.
>
> I have never heard anyone use the phrase 'lean on the wall'.
>
Lampposts would be a different matter.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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 by: Rich Ulrich - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:49 UTC

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 14:29:12 +0000, musatokyo@juno.ocn.ne.jp (tonbei)
wrote:

>lean against the wall
>
>This phrase gives two different images, if no context is given.
>
>1) lean backwards against the the wall, or he leans his back against the wall
>2) lean forward against the wall, or he hangs on or holds on to the wall, putting his forehead on it.

Funny thing - the picture I immediately come up with has
a person with one shoulder against a wall. Lolling. Trying
to look unthreatening (in a hallway, maybe).

>
>And, there is a similar expression: "lean on the wall".

"on the wall" imples a wall that is low enough that your
hands or arms are on the top of it.

>
>What do you say about it?

--
Rich Ulrich

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 by: lar3ryca - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 21:24 UTC

On 2024-03-13 10:36, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:49:12 -0600
> lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-03-13 08:29, tonbei wrote:
>>> lean against the wall
>>>
>>> This phrase gives two different images, if no context is given.
>>> 1) lean backwards against the the wall, or he leans his back against the
>>> wall
>>> 2) lean forward against the wall, or he hangs on or holds on to the
>>> wall, putting his forehead on it.
>>> And, there is a similar expression: "lean on the wall".
>>> What do you say about it?
>>
>> I say 'lean against the wall' can mean only one thing, but without
>> context, it may change the the 'image'. Without context, it can mean
>> leaning on the wall in any of the many ways to lean against the wall.
>>
>> I have never heard anyone use the phrase 'lean on the wall'.
>>
> Lampposts would be a different matter.
>

I'll have to ask a certain little lady about that.

--
Edam cheese is made backwards.

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 by: lar3ryca - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 21:25 UTC

On 2024-03-13 10:36, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:49:12 -0600
> lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-03-13 08:29, tonbei wrote:
>>> lean against the wall
>>>
>>> This phrase gives two different images, if no context is given.
>>> 1) lean backwards against the the wall, or he leans his back against the
>>> wall
>>> 2) lean forward against the wall, or he hangs on or holds on to the
>>> wall, putting his forehead on it.
>>> And, there is a similar expression: "lean on the wall".
>>> What do you say about it?
>>
>> I say 'lean against the wall' can mean only one thing, but without
>> context, it may change the the 'image'. Without context, it can mean
>> leaning on the wall in any of the many ways to lean against the wall.
>>
>> I have never heard anyone use the phrase 'lean on the wall'.
>>
> Lampposts would be a different matter.
>

I'll have to ask a certain little lady about that.

--
Edam cheese is made backwards.

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 by: Peter Moylan - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:36 UTC

On 14/03/24 03:36, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:49:12 -0600 lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca>
> wrote:

>> I have never heard anyone use the phrase 'lean on the wall'.
>>
> Lampposts would be a different matter.

In my youth, said the young man, I thought they were called lamb-posts,
and I didn't understand why.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 02:46 UTC

On 13-Mar-24 21:24, lar3ryca wrote:
> On 2024-03-13 10:36, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:49:12 -0600
>> lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-03-13 08:29, tonbei wrote:
>>>> lean against the wall
>>>>
>>>> This phrase gives two different images, if no context is given.
>>>> 1) lean backwards against the the wall, or he leans his back against
>>>> the
>>>> wall
>>>> 2) lean forward against the wall, or he hangs on or holds on to the
>>>> wall, putting his forehead on it.
>>>> And, there is a similar expression: "lean on the wall".
>>>> What do you say about it?
>>>
>>> I say 'lean against the wall' can mean only one thing, but without
>>> context, it may change the the 'image'. Without context, it can mean
>>> leaning on the wall in any of the many ways to lean against the wall.
>>>
>>> I have never heard anyone use the phrase 'lean on the wall'.
>>>
>> Lampposts would be a different matter.
>>
>
> I'll have to ask a certain little lady about that.

OK. I'll ask those who are unsure.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: lar3ryca - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 03:13 UTC

On 2024-03-13 16:36, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 14/03/24 03:36, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:49:12 -0600 lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca>
>> wrote:
>
>>> I have never heard anyone use the phrase 'lean on the wall'.
>>>
>> Lampposts would be a different matter.
>
> In my youth, said the young man, I thought they were called lamb-posts,
> and I didn't understand why.
>

Understandable.
I have several friend who call a portable computer 'a labtop'.

--
I thought Ariana Grande was a font.

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 by: Hibou - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 06:06 UTC

Le 13/03/2024 à 14:29, tonbei a écrit :
>
> lean against the wall
>
> This phrase gives two different images, if no context is given.
> 1) lean backwards against the the wall, or he leans his back against the
> wall
> 2) lean forward against the wall, or he hangs on or holds on to the
> wall, putting his forehead on it.

In itself, the phrase doesn't say what is leaning, or how, so many
images are possible.

I found my bicycle leaning against the wall.

> And, there is a similar expression: "lean on the wall".
> What do you say about it?

'On' conveys a greater idea of support, I think. 'Leaning against' is a
slighter lean than 'leaning on'.

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 by: Hibou - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 06:15 UTC

Le 13/03/2024 à 19:49, Rich Ulrich a écrit :
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 14:29:12 +0000, musatokyo@juno.ocn.ne.jp (tonbei)
> wrote:
>>
>> And, there is a similar expression: "lean on the wall".
>
> "on the wall" imples a wall that is low enough that your
> hands or arms are on the top of it.

Yes.

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