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* Frugal AgingBeaver Fever
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 by: Beaver Fever - Fri, 3 Feb 2023 19:25 UTC

Well, this is it folks. The big 5-0 is just around the corner.

I never thought I would make it this far. My best projections had me checking out around 2016.

I have no kids, fewer friends than ever (they are now dropping dead even faster than I can alienate them). Not much in the way of family anymore.Everybody but me moved out of state.

Still no job skills and people skills are worse than ever.

I got lucky when a pricing arbitrage scheme blew up and put some money in the bank but it won't last forever. Most of those pricing gaps and opportunities have been closed off. Not even pretending to try to work and be a productive citizen.

I discovered legal weed during lockdown and now stoned and depressed all the time.

No game plan for eventually getting a job and acting like a responsible adult.

No game plan for what to do when the inevitable health problems creep in. No one to help me when I get way too old. I tried to be nicer to my also somewhat orphaned nieces but I think it ended up just being awkward and I don't even try anymore. I think they hate me.

No plan for what to do when I finally need to look for housing again.

But fuck me I am pretty much almost old, what do I do?

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 by: Bob F - Sat, 4 Feb 2023 04:23 UTC

On 2/3/2023 11:25 AM, Beaver Fever wrote:
> Well, this is it folks. The big 5-0 is just around the corner.
>
> I never thought I would make it this far. My best projections had me checking out around 2016.
>
> I have no kids, fewer friends than ever (they are now dropping dead even faster than I can alienate them). Not much in the way of family anymore.Everybody but me moved out of state.
>
> Still no job skills and people skills are worse than ever.
>
> I got lucky when a pricing arbitrage scheme blew up and put some money in the bank but it won't last forever. Most of those pricing gaps and opportunities have been closed off. Not even pretending to try to work and be a productive citizen.
>
> I discovered legal weed during lockdown and now stoned and depressed all the time.
>
> No game plan for eventually getting a job and acting like a responsible adult.
>
> No game plan for what to do when the inevitable health problems creep in. No one to help me when I get way too old. I tried to be nicer to my also somewhat orphaned nieces but I think it ended up just being awkward and I don't even try anymore. I think they hate me.
>
> No plan for what to do when I finally need to look for housing again.
>
> But fuck me I am pretty much almost old, what do I do?

Quit being so old.

Find some activities that exercise your body and get you involved with
people. Then do them enough to keep your body running good.

I switched from skiing to snowboarding in my 50's, and was playing
volleyball regularly well before that. These days I am snowboarding 2-3
days a week, weather permitting, and play volleyball for a couple hours
2-3 times a week. I am still getting better at both. In good weather, I
ride my bike ~14 miles each way for the VB games during the not so cold
parts of the year. I will be 74 in a couple weeks.

If you find a fun way to exercise, it improves you physically and
mentally. You have something to look forward to and a reason to get up
in the morning. And even helps you remember what day of the week it is.

You might even forget to get stoned sometimes, because that will not
help you learn.

Check out local community centers for activity possibilities. Maybe try
pickleball. They offer classes for many such activities. Learning them
is fun.

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 by: The Real Bev - Sat, 4 Feb 2023 18:11 UTC

On 2/3/23 8:23 PM, Bob F wrote:

> Find some activities that exercise your body and get you involved with
> people. Then do them enough to keep your body running good.
>
> I switched from skiing to snowboarding in my 50's,

I've thought about that, but dealing with flat areas always discourages
me from doing anything but thinking about it. I could never figure out
skateboarding either.

> and was playing
> volleyball regularly well before that. These days I am snowboarding 2-3
> days a week, weather permitting, and play volleyball for a couple hours
> 2-3 times a week. I am still getting better at both.

I used to play tennis, but I just can't move fast enough now so I bat
tennis balls in the racquetball courts at the gym. I was amazed at how
quickly my strokes came back after 40 years; the speed, not so much.
Gym is free (Silver Sneakers participant).

> If you find a fun way to exercise, it improves you physically and
> mentally. You have something to look forward to and a reason to get up
> in the morning. And even helps you remember what day of the week it is.

:-) Walking is tedious, but walking to the gym and batting balls gives
me maybe 3 miles of walking according to my step counter. Long ago I
used to walk 4 miles a day -- two miles up, two miles down. I tried the
same route a couple of years ago. Never again.

> Check out local community centers for activity possibilities. Maybe try
> pickleball. They offer classes for many such activities. Learning them
> is fun.

I've thought about that. The City is planning on putting in courts
nearby, but the fad will probably be over by the time they get around to
it. I'm shocked at the cost of the paddles -- seemingly just bigger
pingpong paddles. I also never liked playing doubles. Is pickleball
really competitive, or more social?

--
Cheers, Bev
"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the
American Public." -- H.L. Mencken

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 by: Bob F - Sat, 4 Feb 2023 19:12 UTC

On 2/4/2023 10:11 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 2/3/23 8:23 PM, Bob F wrote:
>
>> Find some activities that exercise your body and get you involved with
>> people. Then do them enough to keep your body running good.
>>
>> I switched from skiing to snowboarding in my 50's,
>
> I've thought about that, but dealing with flat areas always discourages
> me from doing anything but thinking about it.  I could never figure out
> skateboarding either.
>
>> and was playing
>> volleyball regularly well before that. These days I am snowboarding 2-3
>> days a week, weather permitting, and play volleyball for a couple hours
>> 2-3 times a week. I am still getting better at both.
>
> I used to play tennis, but I just can't move fast enough now so I bat
> tennis balls in the racquetball courts at the gym.  I was amazed at how
> quickly my strokes came back after 40 years;  the speed, not so much.
> Gym is free (Silver Sneakers participant).
>
>> If you find a fun way to exercise, it improves you physically and
>> mentally. You have something to look forward to and a reason to get up
>> in the morning. And even helps you remember what day of the week it is.
>
> :-)  Walking is tedious, but walking to the gym and batting balls gives
> me maybe 3 miles of walking according to my step counter.  Long ago I
> used to walk 4 miles a day -- two miles up, two miles down.  I tried the
> same route a couple of years ago.  Never again.

I have been doing the bicycle to the game routine for a number of years,
and it helps me keep going. Plus, my body is much faster on days that I
have that good aerobic exercise before the game. Even 45 minutes on my
elliptical before I drive to the game in the winter does that.

My endurance these days is better than most of the other players
anywhere near my age. Regular exercise is the best preventative to keep
from feeling old.

>
>> Check out local community centers for activity possibilities. Maybe try
>> pickleball. They offer classes for many such activities. Learning them
>> is fun.
>
> I've thought about that.  The City is planning on putting in courts
> nearby, but the fad will probably be over by the time they get around to
> it.  I'm shocked at the cost of the paddles -- seemingly just bigger
> pingpong paddles.  I also never liked playing doubles.  Is pickleball
> really competitive, or more social?
>

I have not tried it. I'm sure it is both, depending on the crowd and the
individual. One of the guys at the volleyball games goes out into the
hall for lunch after the game, then plays pickleball 1/2 hour later
after they change the nets.

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 by: Dim Witte - Sun, 5 Feb 2023 05:30 UTC

On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 10:13:01 AM UTC-9, Bob F wrote:
> On 2/4/2023 10:11 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
> > On 2/3/23 8:23 PM, Bob F wrote:
> >
> >> Find some activities that exercise your body and get you involved with
> >> people. Then do them enough to keep your body running good.
> >>
> >> I switched from skiing to snowboarding in my 50's,
> >
> > I've thought about that, but dealing with flat areas always discourages
> > me from doing anything but thinking about it. I could never figure out
> > skateboarding either.
> >
> >> and was playing
> >> volleyball regularly well before that. These days I am snowboarding 2-3
> >> days a week, weather permitting, and play volleyball for a couple hours
> >> 2-3 times a week. I am still getting better at both.
> >
> > I used to play tennis, but I just can't move fast enough now so I bat
> > tennis balls in the racquetball courts at the gym. I was amazed at how
> > quickly my strokes came back after 40 years; the speed, not so much.
> > Gym is free (Silver Sneakers participant).
> >
> >> If you find a fun way to exercise, it improves you physically and
> >> mentally. You have something to look forward to and a reason to get up
> >> in the morning. And even helps you remember what day of the week it is..
> >
> > :-) Walking is tedious, but walking to the gym and batting balls gives
> > me maybe 3 miles of walking according to my step counter. Long ago I
> > used to walk 4 miles a day -- two miles up, two miles down. I tried the
> > same route a couple of years ago. Never again.
> I have been doing the bicycle to the game routine for a number of years,
> and it helps me keep going. Plus, my body is much faster on days that I
> have that good aerobic exercise before the game. Even 45 minutes on my
> elliptical before I drive to the game in the winter does that.
>
> My endurance these days is better than most of the other players
> anywhere near my age. Regular exercise is the best preventative to keep
> from feeling old.
> >
> >> Check out local community centers for activity possibilities. Maybe try
> >> pickleball. They offer classes for many such activities. Learning them
> >> is fun.
> >
> > I've thought about that. The City is planning on putting in courts
> > nearby, but the fad will probably be over by the time they get around to
> > it. I'm shocked at the cost of the paddles -- seemingly just bigger
> > pingpong paddles. I also never liked playing doubles. Is pickleball
> > really competitive, or more social?
> >
> I have not tried it. I'm sure it is both, depending on the crowd and the
> individual. One of the guys at the volleyball games goes out into the
> hall for lunch after the game, then plays pickleball 1/2 hour later
> after they change the nets.

If you want the most frugal exercise, walking is no doubt the best. Rather than invest in a physical sport, I suppose an inexpensive exercise machine is a good choice, especially in adverse weather conditions. I bought a used Gazelle Edge, advertised by Tony Little, for $50. Has no motor and is of the "glider" variety that you operated with feet and hands, like in cross-country skiing.

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 by: Bob F - Sun, 5 Feb 2023 06:26 UTC

On 2/4/2023 9:30 PM, Dim Witte wrote:
> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 10:13:01 AM UTC-9, Bob F wrote:
>> On 2/4/2023 10:11 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 2/3/23 8:23 PM, Bob F wrote:
>>>
>>>> Find some activities that exercise your body and get you involved with
>>>> people. Then do them enough to keep your body running good.
>>>>
>>>> I switched from skiing to snowboarding in my 50's,
>>>
>>> I've thought about that, but dealing with flat areas always discourages
>>> me from doing anything but thinking about it. I could never figure out
>>> skateboarding either.
>>>
>>>> and was playing
>>>> volleyball regularly well before that. These days I am snowboarding 2-3
>>>> days a week, weather permitting, and play volleyball for a couple hours
>>>> 2-3 times a week. I am still getting better at both.
>>>
>>> I used to play tennis, but I just can't move fast enough now so I bat
>>> tennis balls in the racquetball courts at the gym. I was amazed at how
>>> quickly my strokes came back after 40 years; the speed, not so much.
>>> Gym is free (Silver Sneakers participant).
>>>
>>>> If you find a fun way to exercise, it improves you physically and
>>>> mentally. You have something to look forward to and a reason to get up
>>>> in the morning. And even helps you remember what day of the week it is.
>>>
>>> :-) Walking is tedious, but walking to the gym and batting balls gives
>>> me maybe 3 miles of walking according to my step counter. Long ago I
>>> used to walk 4 miles a day -- two miles up, two miles down. I tried the
>>> same route a couple of years ago. Never again.
>> I have been doing the bicycle to the game routine for a number of years,
>> and it helps me keep going. Plus, my body is much faster on days that I
>> have that good aerobic exercise before the game. Even 45 minutes on my
>> elliptical before I drive to the game in the winter does that.
>>
>> My endurance these days is better than most of the other players
>> anywhere near my age. Regular exercise is the best preventative to keep
>> from feeling old.
>>>
>>>> Check out local community centers for activity possibilities. Maybe try
>>>> pickleball. They offer classes for many such activities. Learning them
>>>> is fun.
>>>
>>> I've thought about that. The City is planning on putting in courts
>>> nearby, but the fad will probably be over by the time they get around to
>>> it. I'm shocked at the cost of the paddles -- seemingly just bigger
>>> pingpong paddles. I also never liked playing doubles. Is pickleball
>>> really competitive, or more social?
>>>
>> I have not tried it. I'm sure it is both, depending on the crowd and the
>> individual. One of the guys at the volleyball games goes out into the
>> hall for lunch after the game, then plays pickleball 1/2 hour later
>> after they change the nets.
>
> If you want the most frugal exercise, walking is no doubt the best. Rather than invest in a physical sport, I suppose an inexpensive exercise machine is a good choice, especially in adverse weather conditions. I bought a used Gazelle Edge, advertised by Tony Little, for $50. Has no motor and is of the "glider" variety that you operated with feet and hands, like in cross-country skiing.

One of the issues discussed was being around people, and the activities
I discussed bring you into contact with lots of people. And walking is
hardly an aerobic exercise unless steep hills are involved.

You are a lot more likely to get your exercise regularly if it doing
something fun - again sports help that. Riding my bike to volleyball
games makes me look forward to an extended day of exercise a couple days
a week in good weather. That keeps me in good shape.

Exercise machines can be had for nothing if you keep your eye on the
appropriate sites. Then set up TV with access to lots of streamed movies
if you want to make the exercise machine time go by faster.

I was just looking at a post for a free schwinn recumbent exercise bike
on freecycle that supposedly has only been used twice. I have a room
full of exercise machines, and have not paid for any. That's for the
Seattle rainy days.

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 by: Dim Witte - Mon, 6 Feb 2023 18:58 UTC

On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 9:26:08 PM UTC-9, Bob F wrote:
> On 2/4/2023 9:30 PM, Dim Witte wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 10:13:01 AM UTC-9, Bob F wrote:
> >> On 2/4/2023 10:11 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
> >>> On 2/3/23 8:23 PM, Bob F wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Find some activities that exercise your body and get you involved with
> >>>> people. Then do them enough to keep your body running good.
> >>>>
> >>>> I switched from skiing to snowboarding in my 50's,
> >>>
> >>> I've thought about that, but dealing with flat areas always discourages
> >>> me from doing anything but thinking about it. I could never figure out
> >>> skateboarding either.
> >>>
> >>>> and was playing
> >>>> volleyball regularly well before that. These days I am snowboarding 2-3
> >>>> days a week, weather permitting, and play volleyball for a couple hours
> >>>> 2-3 times a week. I am still getting better at both.
> >>>
> >>> I used to play tennis, but I just can't move fast enough now so I bat
> >>> tennis balls in the racquetball courts at the gym. I was amazed at how
> >>> quickly my strokes came back after 40 years; the speed, not so much.
> >>> Gym is free (Silver Sneakers participant).
> >>>
> >>>> If you find a fun way to exercise, it improves you physically and
> >>>> mentally. You have something to look forward to and a reason to get up
> >>>> in the morning. And even helps you remember what day of the week it is.
> >>>
> >>> :-) Walking is tedious, but walking to the gym and batting balls gives
> >>> me maybe 3 miles of walking according to my step counter. Long ago I
> >>> used to walk 4 miles a day -- two miles up, two miles down. I tried the
> >>> same route a couple of years ago. Never again.
> >> I have been doing the bicycle to the game routine for a number of years,
> >> and it helps me keep going. Plus, my body is much faster on days that I
> >> have that good aerobic exercise before the game. Even 45 minutes on my
> >> elliptical before I drive to the game in the winter does that.
> >>
> >> My endurance these days is better than most of the other players
> >> anywhere near my age. Regular exercise is the best preventative to keep
> >> from feeling old.
> >>>
> >>>> Check out local community centers for activity possibilities. Maybe try
> >>>> pickleball. They offer classes for many such activities. Learning them
> >>>> is fun.
> >>>
> >>> I've thought about that. The City is planning on putting in courts
> >>> nearby, but the fad will probably be over by the time they get around to
> >>> it. I'm shocked at the cost of the paddles -- seemingly just bigger
> >>> pingpong paddles. I also never liked playing doubles. Is pickleball
> >>> really competitive, or more social?
> >>>
> >> I have not tried it. I'm sure it is both, depending on the crowd and the
> >> individual. One of the guys at the volleyball games goes out into the
> >> hall for lunch after the game, then plays pickleball 1/2 hour later
> >> after they change the nets.
> >
> > If you want the most frugal exercise, walking is no doubt the best. Rather than invest in a physical sport, I suppose an inexpensive exercise machine is a good choice, especially in adverse weather conditions. I bought a used Gazelle Edge, advertised by Tony Little, for $50. Has no motor and is of the "glider" variety that you operated with feet and hands, like in cross-country skiing.
> One of the issues discussed was being around people, and the activities
> I discussed bring you into contact with lots of people. And walking is
> hardly an aerobic exercise unless steep hills are involved.
>
> You are a lot more likely to get your exercise regularly if it doing
> something fun - again sports help that. Riding my bike to volleyball
> games makes me look forward to an extended day of exercise a couple days
> a week in good weather. That keeps me in good shape.
>
> Exercise machines can be had for nothing if you keep your eye on the
> appropriate sites. Then set up TV with access to lots of streamed movies
> if you want to make the exercise machine time go by faster.
>
> I was just looking at a post for a free schwinn recumbent exercise bike
> on freecycle that supposedly has only been used twice. I have a room
> full of exercise machines, and have not paid for any. That's for the
> Seattle rainy days.

If you have a dog to be taking outside, walking your dog is a good excuse to do your exercise. Not sure about factoring in the risk involved in taking walks at different times. Some house breaker could be watching to see when you head out. To some extent, your dog is a defense, but then some dogs get into trouble. Neighbors probably dislike seeing your dog poop on their lawn.

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On 2/6/2023 10:58 AM, Dim Witte wrote:
> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 9:26:08 PM UTC-9, Bob F wrote:
>> On 2/4/2023 9:30 PM, Dim Witte wrote:
>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 10:13:01 AM UTC-9, Bob F wrote:
>>>> On 2/4/2023 10:11 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>> On 2/3/23 8:23 PM, Bob F wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Find some activities that exercise your body and get you involved with
>>>>>> people. Then do them enough to keep your body running good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I switched from skiing to snowboarding in my 50's,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've thought about that, but dealing with flat areas always discourages
>>>>> me from doing anything but thinking about it. I could never figure out
>>>>> skateboarding either.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and was playing
>>>>>> volleyball regularly well before that. These days I am snowboarding 2-3
>>>>>> days a week, weather permitting, and play volleyball for a couple hours
>>>>>> 2-3 times a week. I am still getting better at both.
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to play tennis, but I just can't move fast enough now so I bat
>>>>> tennis balls in the racquetball courts at the gym. I was amazed at how
>>>>> quickly my strokes came back after 40 years; the speed, not so much.
>>>>> Gym is free (Silver Sneakers participant).
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you find a fun way to exercise, it improves you physically and
>>>>>> mentally. You have something to look forward to and a reason to get up
>>>>>> in the morning. And even helps you remember what day of the week it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> :-) Walking is tedious, but walking to the gym and batting balls gives
>>>>> me maybe 3 miles of walking according to my step counter. Long ago I
>>>>> used to walk 4 miles a day -- two miles up, two miles down. I tried the
>>>>> same route a couple of years ago. Never again.
>>>> I have been doing the bicycle to the game routine for a number of years,
>>>> and it helps me keep going. Plus, my body is much faster on days that I
>>>> have that good aerobic exercise before the game. Even 45 minutes on my
>>>> elliptical before I drive to the game in the winter does that.
>>>>
>>>> My endurance these days is better than most of the other players
>>>> anywhere near my age. Regular exercise is the best preventative to keep
>>>> from feeling old.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Check out local community centers for activity possibilities. Maybe try
>>>>>> pickleball. They offer classes for many such activities. Learning them
>>>>>> is fun.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've thought about that. The City is planning on putting in courts
>>>>> nearby, but the fad will probably be over by the time they get around to
>>>>> it. I'm shocked at the cost of the paddles -- seemingly just bigger
>>>>> pingpong paddles. I also never liked playing doubles. Is pickleball
>>>>> really competitive, or more social?
>>>>>
>>>> I have not tried it. I'm sure it is both, depending on the crowd and the
>>>> individual. One of the guys at the volleyball games goes out into the
>>>> hall for lunch after the game, then plays pickleball 1/2 hour later
>>>> after they change the nets.
>>>
>>> If you want the most frugal exercise, walking is no doubt the best. Rather than invest in a physical sport, I suppose an inexpensive exercise machine is a good choice, especially in adverse weather conditions. I bought a used Gazelle Edge, advertised by Tony Little, for $50. Has no motor and is of the "glider" variety that you operated with feet and hands, like in cross-country skiing.
>> One of the issues discussed was being around people, and the activities
>> I discussed bring you into contact with lots of people. And walking is
>> hardly an aerobic exercise unless steep hills are involved.
>>
>> You are a lot more likely to get your exercise regularly if it doing
>> something fun - again sports help that. Riding my bike to volleyball
>> games makes me look forward to an extended day of exercise a couple days
>> a week in good weather. That keeps me in good shape.
>>
>> Exercise machines can be had for nothing if you keep your eye on the
>> appropriate sites. Then set up TV with access to lots of streamed movies
>> if you want to make the exercise machine time go by faster.
>>
>> I was just looking at a post for a free schwinn recumbent exercise bike
>> on freecycle that supposedly has only been used twice. I have a room
>> full of exercise machines, and have not paid for any. That's for the
>> Seattle rainy days.
>
> If you have a dog to be taking outside, walking your dog is a good excuse to do your exercise. Not sure about factoring in the risk involved in taking walks at different times. Some house breaker could be watching to see when you head out. To some extent, your dog is a defense, but then some dogs get into trouble. Neighbors probably dislike seeing your dog poop on their lawn.

But they love watching you carefully pick it all up.

I don't find walking does much for my aerobic fitness. I don't stay
active by just walking.

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 by: Beaver Fever - Tue, 7 Feb 2023 01:30 UTC

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:23:48 PM UTC-8, Bob F wrote:
> On 2/3/2023 11:25 AM, Beaver Fever wrote:
> > Well, this is it folks. The big 5-0 is just around the corner.
> >
> > I never thought I would make it this far. My best projections had me checking out around 2016.
> >
> > I have no kids, fewer friends than ever (they are now dropping dead even faster than I can alienate them). Not much in the way of family anymore.Everybody but me moved out of state.
> >
> > Still no job skills and people skills are worse than ever.
> >
> > I got lucky when a pricing arbitrage scheme blew up and put some money in the bank but it won't last forever. Most of those pricing gaps and opportunities have been closed off. Not even pretending to try to work and be a productive citizen.
> >
> > I discovered legal weed during lockdown and now stoned and depressed all the time.
> >
> > No game plan for eventually getting a job and acting like a responsible adult.
> >
> > No game plan for what to do when the inevitable health problems creep in. No one to help me when I get way too old. I tried to be nicer to my also somewhat orphaned nieces but I think it ended up just being awkward and I don't even try anymore. I think they hate me.
> >
> > No plan for what to do when I finally need to look for housing again.
> >
> > But fuck me I am pretty much almost old, what do I do?
> Quit being so old.
>
> Find some activities that exercise your body and get you involved with
> people. Then do them enough to keep your body running good.
>
> I switched from skiing to snowboarding in my 50's, and was playing
> volleyball regularly well before that. These days I am snowboarding 2-3
> days a week, weather permitting, and play volleyball for a couple hours
> 2-3 times a week. I am still getting better at both. In good weather, I
> ride my bike ~14 miles each way for the VB games during the not so cold
> parts of the year. I will be 74 in a couple weeks.
>
> If you find a fun way to exercise, it improves you physically and
> mentally. You have something to look forward to and a reason to get up
> in the morning. And even helps you remember what day of the week it is.
>
> You might even forget to get stoned sometimes, because that will not
> help you learn.
>
> Check out local community centers for activity possibilities. Maybe try
> pickleball. They offer classes for many such activities. Learning them
> is fun.

I go hiking in the hills above my home almost every day.

What do I do when I get sick?

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 by: Bob F - Tue, 7 Feb 2023 02:13 UTC

On 2/6/2023 5:30 PM, Beaver Fever wrote:
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:23:48 PM UTC-8, Bob F wrote:
>> On 2/3/2023 11:25 AM, Beaver Fever wrote:
>>> Well, this is it folks. The big 5-0 is just around the corner.
>>>
>>> I never thought I would make it this far. My best projections had me checking out around 2016.
>>>
>>> I have no kids, fewer friends than ever (they are now dropping dead even faster than I can alienate them). Not much in the way of family anymore.Everybody but me moved out of state.
>>>
>>> Still no job skills and people skills are worse than ever.
>>>
>>> I got lucky when a pricing arbitrage scheme blew up and put some money in the bank but it won't last forever. Most of those pricing gaps and opportunities have been closed off. Not even pretending to try to work and be a productive citizen.
>>>
>>> I discovered legal weed during lockdown and now stoned and depressed all the time.
>>>
>>> No game plan for eventually getting a job and acting like a responsible adult.
>>>
>>> No game plan for what to do when the inevitable health problems creep in. No one to help me when I get way too old. I tried to be nicer to my also somewhat orphaned nieces but I think it ended up just being awkward and I don't even try anymore. I think they hate me.
>>>
>>> No plan for what to do when I finally need to look for housing again.
>>>
>>> But fuck me I am pretty much almost old, what do I do?
>> Quit being so old.
>>
>> Find some activities that exercise your body and get you involved with
>> people. Then do them enough to keep your body running good.
>>
>> I switched from skiing to snowboarding in my 50's, and was playing
>> volleyball regularly well before that. These days I am snowboarding 2-3
>> days a week, weather permitting, and play volleyball for a couple hours
>> 2-3 times a week. I am still getting better at both. In good weather, I
>> ride my bike ~14 miles each way for the VB games during the not so cold
>> parts of the year. I will be 74 in a couple weeks.
>>
>> If you find a fun way to exercise, it improves you physically and
>> mentally. You have something to look forward to and a reason to get up
>> in the morning. And even helps you remember what day of the week it is.
>>
>> You might even forget to get stoned sometimes, because that will not
>> help you learn.
>>
>> Check out local community centers for activity possibilities. Maybe try
>> pickleball. They offer classes for many such activities. Learning them
>> is fun.
>
>
> I go hiking in the hills above my home almost every day.

With friends? Social activities are healthier too. Show your friends
your favorite spots. Enjoy them with friends.

>
> What do I do when I get sick?

The healthier you get, the less you will get sick. And the faster you
will recover.

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 by: Beaver Fever - Tue, 7 Feb 2023 03:09 UTC

On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 6:13:43 PM UTC-8, Bob F wrote:
> On 2/6/2023 5:30 PM, Beaver Fever wrote:
> > On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:23:48 PM UTC-8, Bob F wrote:
> >> On 2/3/2023 11:25 AM, Beaver Fever wrote:
> >>> Well, this is it folks. The big 5-0 is just around the corner.
> >>>
> >>> I never thought I would make it this far. My best projections had me checking out around 2016.
> >>>
> >>> I have no kids, fewer friends than ever (they are now dropping dead even faster than I can alienate them). Not much in the way of family anymore..Everybody but me moved out of state.
> >>>
> >>> Still no job skills and people skills are worse than ever.
> >>>
> >>> I got lucky when a pricing arbitrage scheme blew up and put some money in the bank but it won't last forever. Most of those pricing gaps and opportunities have been closed off. Not even pretending to try to work and be a productive citizen.
> >>>
> >>> I discovered legal weed during lockdown and now stoned and depressed all the time.
> >>>
> >>> No game plan for eventually getting a job and acting like a responsible adult.
> >>>
> >>> No game plan for what to do when the inevitable health problems creep in. No one to help me when I get way too old. I tried to be nicer to my also somewhat orphaned nieces but I think it ended up just being awkward and I don't even try anymore. I think they hate me.
> >>>
> >>> No plan for what to do when I finally need to look for housing again.
> >>>
> >>> But fuck me I am pretty much almost old, what do I do?
> >> Quit being so old.
> >>
> >> Find some activities that exercise your body and get you involved with
> >> people. Then do them enough to keep your body running good.
> >>
> >> I switched from skiing to snowboarding in my 50's, and was playing
> >> volleyball regularly well before that. These days I am snowboarding 2-3
> >> days a week, weather permitting, and play volleyball for a couple hours
> >> 2-3 times a week. I am still getting better at both. In good weather, I
> >> ride my bike ~14 miles each way for the VB games during the not so cold
> >> parts of the year. I will be 74 in a couple weeks.
> >>
> >> If you find a fun way to exercise, it improves you physically and
> >> mentally. You have something to look forward to and a reason to get up
> >> in the morning. And even helps you remember what day of the week it is..
> >>
> >> You might even forget to get stoned sometimes, because that will not
> >> help you learn.
> >>
> >> Check out local community centers for activity possibilities. Maybe try
> >> pickleball. They offer classes for many such activities. Learning them
> >> is fun.
> >
> >
> > I go hiking in the hills above my home almost every day.
> With friends? Social activities are healthier too. Show your friends
> your favorite spots. Enjoy them with friends.
> >
> > What do I do when I get sick?
> The healthier you get, the less you will get sick. And the faster you
> will recover.

I am pretty healthy now as far as I can tell

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On 2/6/2023 7:09 PM, Beaver Fever wrote:
> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 6:13:43 PM UTC-8, Bob F wrote:
>> On 2/6/2023 5:30 PM, Beaver Fever wrote:
>>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:23:48 PM UTC-8, Bob F wrote:
>>>> On 2/3/2023 11:25 AM, Beaver Fever wrote:
>>>>> Well, this is it folks. The big 5-0 is just around the corner.
>>>>>
>>>>> I never thought I would make it this far. My best projections had me checking out around 2016.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no kids, fewer friends than ever (they are now dropping dead even faster than I can alienate them). Not much in the way of family anymore.Everybody but me moved out of state.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still no job skills and people skills are worse than ever.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got lucky when a pricing arbitrage scheme blew up and put some money in the bank but it won't last forever. Most of those pricing gaps and opportunities have been closed off. Not even pretending to try to work and be a productive citizen.
>>>>>
>>>>> I discovered legal weed during lockdown and now stoned and depressed all the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> No game plan for eventually getting a job and acting like a responsible adult.
>>>>>
>>>>> No game plan for what to do when the inevitable health problems creep in. No one to help me when I get way too old. I tried to be nicer to my also somewhat orphaned nieces but I think it ended up just being awkward and I don't even try anymore. I think they hate me.
>>>>>
>>>>> No plan for what to do when I finally need to look for housing again.
>>>>>
>>>>> But fuck me I am pretty much almost old, what do I do?
>>>> Quit being so old.
>>>>
>>>> Find some activities that exercise your body and get you involved with
>>>> people. Then do them enough to keep your body running good.
>>>>
>>>> I switched from skiing to snowboarding in my 50's, and was playing
>>>> volleyball regularly well before that. These days I am snowboarding 2-3
>>>> days a week, weather permitting, and play volleyball for a couple hours
>>>> 2-3 times a week. I am still getting better at both. In good weather, I
>>>> ride my bike ~14 miles each way for the VB games during the not so cold
>>>> parts of the year. I will be 74 in a couple weeks.
>>>>
>>>> If you find a fun way to exercise, it improves you physically and
>>>> mentally. You have something to look forward to and a reason to get up
>>>> in the morning. And even helps you remember what day of the week it is.
>>>>
>>>> You might even forget to get stoned sometimes, because that will not
>>>> help you learn.
>>>>
>>>> Check out local community centers for activity possibilities. Maybe try
>>>> pickleball. They offer classes for many such activities. Learning them
>>>> is fun.
>>>
>>>
>>> I go hiking in the hills above my home almost every day.
>> With friends? Social activities are healthier too. Show your friends
>> your favorite spots. Enjoy them with friends.
>>>
>>> What do I do when I get sick?
>> The healthier you get, the less you will get sick. And the faster you
>> will recover.
>
>
> I am pretty healthy now as far as I can tell
>

Sitting around stoned and depressed doesn't match that description. But
I am glad to hear it.

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On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 6:37:38 PM UTC-9, Bob F wrote:
> On 2/6/2023 7:09 PM, Beaver Fever wrote:
> > On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 6:13:43 PM UTC-8, Bob F wrote:
> >> On 2/6/2023 5:30 PM, Beaver Fever wrote:
> >>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:23:48 PM UTC-8, Bob F wrote:
> >>>> On 2/3/2023 11:25 AM, Beaver Fever wrote:
> >>>>> Well, this is it folks. The big 5-0 is just around the corner.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I never thought I would make it this far. My best projections had me checking out around 2016.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have no kids, fewer friends than ever (they are now dropping dead even faster than I can alienate them). Not much in the way of family anymore.Everybody but me moved out of state.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Still no job skills and people skills are worse than ever.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I got lucky when a pricing arbitrage scheme blew up and put some money in the bank but it won't last forever. Most of those pricing gaps and opportunities have been closed off. Not even pretending to try to work and be a productive citizen.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I discovered legal weed during lockdown and now stoned and depressed all the time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No game plan for eventually getting a job and acting like a responsible adult.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No game plan for what to do when the inevitable health problems creep in. No one to help me when I get way too old. I tried to be nicer to my also somewhat orphaned nieces but I think it ended up just being awkward and I don't even try anymore. I think they hate me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No plan for what to do when I finally need to look for housing again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But fuck me I am pretty much almost old, what do I do?
> >>>> Quit being so old.
> >>>>
> >>>> Find some activities that exercise your body and get you involved with
> >>>> people. Then do them enough to keep your body running good.
> >>>>
> >>>> I switched from skiing to snowboarding in my 50's, and was playing
> >>>> volleyball regularly well before that. These days I am snowboarding 2-3
> >>>> days a week, weather permitting, and play volleyball for a couple hours
> >>>> 2-3 times a week. I am still getting better at both. In good weather, I
> >>>> ride my bike ~14 miles each way for the VB games during the not so cold
> >>>> parts of the year. I will be 74 in a couple weeks.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you find a fun way to exercise, it improves you physically and
> >>>> mentally. You have something to look forward to and a reason to get up
> >>>> in the morning. And even helps you remember what day of the week it is.
> >>>>
> >>>> You might even forget to get stoned sometimes, because that will not
> >>>> help you learn.
> >>>>
> >>>> Check out local community centers for activity possibilities. Maybe try
> >>>> pickleball. They offer classes for many such activities. Learning them
> >>>> is fun.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I go hiking in the hills above my home almost every day.
> >> With friends? Social activities are healthier too. Show your friends
> >> your favorite spots. Enjoy them with friends.
> >>>
> >>> What do I do when I get sick?
> >> The healthier you get, the less you will get sick. And the faster you
> >> will recover.
> >
> >
> > I am pretty healthy now as far as I can tell
> >
> Sitting around stoned and depressed doesn't match that description. But
> I am glad to hear it.

Strange syndrome of depression and getting stoned, because one hears that depression is relived by pot use, but then one imagines the use is also a cause of depression while unemployed.


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