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* if you need itarthurvv vart
+- Re: if you need itLionel Edwards
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 by: arthurvv vart - Fri, 27 Oct 2023 21:34 UTC

Can one use:
1) Tom will come here if you need.
2) Tom will come here if you need it.
instead of:
3) Tom will come here if you need him to.

In this sentence:
4) I can lend you a tie if you need it.
What does 'it' stand for?

Does it stand for 'a tie', (in that case I'd use 'one')
or does it stand for 'my lending it to you'?

--
Gratefully,
Navi

Lost in the Twilight Zone of the English language
Interested in structures on the margins of grammaticality
Obsessed with ambiguity

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Subject: Re: if you need it
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 by: Lionel Edwards - Fri, 27 Oct 2023 21:49 UTC

On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 10:34:24 PM UTC+1, arthurvv vart wrote:
> Can one use:
> 1) Tom will come here if you need.

No.

> 2) Tom will come here if you need it.
> instead of:
> 3) Tom will come here if you need him to.

Yes. "If you need it", cover all possible reasons.

> In this sentence:
> 4) I can lend you a tie if you need it.
> What does 'it' stand for?
>
> Does it stand for 'a tie', (in that case I'd use 'one')
> or does it stand for 'my lending it to you'?

"A tie" means just one. What else could it possibly
mean?

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 by: Peeler - Fri, 27 Oct 2023 21:53 UTC

> Lost in the Twilight Zone of the English language
> Interested in structures on the margins of grammaticality
> Obsessed with ambiguity

You are lost in the twilight zone of your own mind, neurotic Navi! The
English language has nothing to do with it! <BG>

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Sat, 28 Oct 2023 12:56 UTC

On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 5:34:24 PM UTC-4, arthurvv vart wrote:

> Can one use:
> 1) Tom will come here if you need.
> 2) Tom will come here if you need it.
> instead of:
> 3) Tom will come here if you need him to.

no

> In this sentence:
> 4) I can lend you a tie if you need it.
> What does 'it' stand for?
>
> Does it stand for 'a tie', (in that case I'd use 'one')

"one" is better

> or does it stand for 'my lending it to you'?

that would be "if you need me to"

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