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 by: Lionel Edwards - Wed, 18 Oct 2023 18:04 UTC

The situation of "Two hostile populations trying to exist on the same
piece of land" has happened many times before (obviously). I only
know of two occasions when that has been resolved amicably.

This Israeli Peace Negotiator remembers back to one of them, and
it was only a short while ago. The others anybody?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg6LzfDHg3U

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 by: Lionel Edwards - Wed, 18 Oct 2023 21:22 UTC

On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 7:04:21 PM UTC+1, Lionel Edwards wrote:
> The situation of "Two hostile populations trying to exist on the same
> piece of land" has happened many times before (obviously). I only
> know of two occasions when that has been resolved amicably.
>
> This Israeli Peace Negotiator remembers back to one of them, and
> it was only a short while ago. The others anybody?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg6LzfDHg3U

I don't think you will get this one:

"Alfred's pursuit was fruitful. Guthrum, king of
the Viking army, so lately master of the one unconquered English
kingdom, found himself penned in his camp. Bishop Asser says,
"the heathen, terrified by hunger, cold, and fear, and at the last
full of despair, begged for peace". They offered to give without
return as many hostages as Alfred should care to pick and to
depart forthwith.
   
"But Alfred had had longer ends in view. It is strange that he
should have wished to convert these savage foes. Baptism as a
penalty of defeat might lose its spiritual quality. The workings of
the spirit are mysterious, but we must still wonder how the
hearts of these hard-bitten swordsmen and pirates could be
changed in a single day. Indeed these mass conversions had
become almost a matter of form for defeated Viking armies. It is
reported that one old veteran declared he had been through this
washing twenty times, and complained that the alb with which
he was supplied was by no means up to the average standard. But
Alfred meant to make a lasting peace with Guthrum. He had him
and his army in his power. He could have starved them into
surrender and slaughtered them to a man. He wished instead to
divide the land with them, and that the two races, in spite of
fearful injuries given and received, should dwell together in
amity. He received Guthrum with thirty prominent buccaneers
in his camp. He stood godfather to Guthrum; he raised him from
the font; he entertained him for twelve days; he presented him
and his warriors with costly gifts; he called him his son.

"This sublime power to rise above the whole force of
circumstances, to remain unbiased by the extremes of victory or
defeat, to persevere in the teeth of disaster, to greet returning
fortune with a cool eye, to have faith in men after repeated
betrayals, raises Alfred far above the turmoil of barbaric wars to
his pinnacle of deathless glory."


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